Headers ?

[bawazir]

Almost every MM owner i see they got KOOKS HEADERS set up which is nice, but I was wondering if there is any other brand that you guys recommend?
any pics?

[Pops]

Use the search fuction as this has been beat up a lot!!!!

[MM03MOK]

We have a whole forum for you to browse.

Exhaust:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=99

[sd8683]

I made my own out of chef boyardee beefaroni cans! There's a how to thread around here somewhere, search and you will find it!

[ImpalaSlayer]

I made mine from mtdew cans, they pwn seans

[FordNut]

Leave it stock.

[fastblackmerc]

Leave it stock.

I agree, cause the next post will be "what are the cheapest headers I can get for my Marauder".

[Spectragod]

Sell the car, buy a Honda and join another board...............

[a_d_a_m]

I just took empty toilet paper rolls, wrapped them in foil, and taped them to the engine block.

[Cheeseheadbob]

Please post up your pics of the install. :D
I just took empty toilet paper rolls, wrapped them in foil, and taped them to the engine block.

[justbob]

Most headers for 03 mach 1's with an automatic will "fit" some with a little modifcation from what i'm told. We are not limited to Kooks or S.S. but they are vehicle specific and still require tweaking sometimes but would ultimately install easier. YOU buy two sets, and I will install both for us.

[RR|Suki]

I run American racing headers since they had some with 1 3/4" primaries.

[Blackened300a]

I agree, cause the next post will be "what are the cheapest headers I can get for my Marauder".

Yeah all mispelled and oversized. :rolleyes:

That will be followed by what pipes?, what size?, who installs?, do I need a tune?, what mufflers?, what will it sound like?, how much power?, and can I drive your car?. :shake:

[Joe Walsh]

I made my own out of chef boyardee beefaroni cans! There's a how to thread around here somewhere, search and you will find it!


I made mine from mtdew cans, they pwn seans

^^^ You guys obviously failed to take into account the primary tube diameter and ended up killing your low end torque
with WAY-TOO-BIG pipes!


RR/Suki did it right!
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

I run American racing headers since they had some with 1 3/4" primaries.

[SC Cheesehead]

Yeah all mispelled and oversized. :rolleyes:

That will be followed by what pipes?, what size?, who installs?, do I need a tune?, what mufflers?, what will it sound like?, how much power?, and can I drive your car?. :shake:

Forgot one Paul:

New costs too much, anybody have a used set they'll sell for half price or less? :rolleyes:

[Joe Walsh]

Forgot one Paul:

New costs too much, anybody have a used set they'll sell for half price or less? :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, that is what happens with any automobile site.....
As the cars get older, their prices become low enough so that anyone can now buy them.

I saw the horrifying end result when I walked through the Mercury Merkur cars at the FORD Carlisle show.
They were once a pricey, relatively exclusive and rare new vehicle, but now they are dirt cheap.
Most of the Merkurs on display were hacked up and modded as badly as a $1,200 Honda Civic in the hands of a 17 year old....:eek:

[SC Cheesehead]

Merrkurs, had forgotten all about those until you mentioned them, Joe. Always thought they were pretty neat.

[Blackened300a]

Unfortunately, that is what happens with any automobile site.....
As the cars get older, their prices become low enough so that anyone can now buy them.

I saw the horrifying end result when I walked through the Mercury Merkur cars at the FORD Carlisle show.
They were once a pricey, relatively exclusive and rare new vehicle, but now they are dirt cheap.
Most of the Merkurs on display were hacked up and modded as badly as a $1,200 Honda Civic in the hands of a 17 year old....:eek:

The Supercoupes are in the hands of 3rd and 4th generations as well ,but they seem to appreciate the car and maintain them. Hopefully our Marauders will be just as a appreciated.

[Joe Walsh]

The Supercoupes are in the hands of 3rd and 4th generations as well ,but they seem to appreciate the car and maintain them. Hopefully our Marauders will be just as a appreciated.

Yep, The SCs seem to be kept in good hands.

(BTW: One of the Merkurs had a "custom" turbo discharge-to-intercooler pipe made out of copper pipe that was cut at 45 degrees and then soldered into a 90 degree angle....:eek:
Talk about a turbulence inducing flow restriction....I mean, really...how much does it cost to get a piece of mild steel exhaust pipe mandel bent into a wide radius 90 degree sweep???

[Sully008]

I saw the horrifying end result when I walked through the Mercury Merkur cars at the FORD Carlisle show.
They were once a pricey, relatively exclusive and rare new vehicle, but now they are dirt cheap.
Most of the Merkurs on display were hacked up and modded as badly as a $1,200 Honda Civic in the hands of a 17 year old....:eek:


Well, that's not what I want to hear. I've had my XR for 19 years now. I think it looks pretty good still:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p59/Sully008/Marauder/Xr/Xr3.jpg

bawazir, there are several header options. Do your research and do what YOU feel is right. You can get opinions out the ying yang, but it's your car. Do what you want with it, and you'll be happy.:D

[Joe Walsh]

Well, that's not what I want to hear. I've had my XR for 19 years now. I think it looks pretty good still:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p59/Sully008/Marauder/Xr/Xr3.jpg

bawazir, there are several header options. Do your research and do what YOU feel is right. You can get opinions out the ying yang, but it's your car. Do what you want with it, and you'll be happy.:D

SWEET Merkur!

Glad to see that at least one is being pampered!

[sd8683]

^^^ You guys obviously failed to take into account the primary tube diameter and ended up killing your low end torque
with WAY-TOO-BIG pipes!


RR/Suki did it right!
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

This may be true Joe, but nothing beats the smell of burnt beefaroni when the bad boy fires up!

[DOOM]

Anyone else get the feeling that AJ IS BACK!!!

[Blackened300a]

Anyone else get the feeling that AJ IS BACK!!!

Its been about a year since the last troll so we were due. At least the last one could spell.

[SC Cheesehead]

Anyone else get the feeling that AJ IS BACK!!!

Nah, ain't AJ. Younger brother maybe...;)

[Phrog_gunner]

Its been about a year since the last troll so we were due. At least the last one could spell.

And they say the schools down south are bad. :P

[Joe Walsh]

This may be true Joe, but nothing beats the smell of burnt beefaroni when the bad boy fires up!

Heck, I have that problem with my own "exhaust pipe"!
Sometimes, I feel like "Rusty" the carriage horse in Seinfeld.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugazcvzOM0Q

[DTUB]

I run American racing headers since they had some with 1 3/4" primaries.Weren't we talking about headers? Whats the part # on the AR headers? Price?

[ImpalaSlayer]

thank god im not the only one....

[RR|Suki]

Weren't we talking about headers? Whats the part # on the AR headers? Price?

Don't think there is a part number, it was more I called them, then my buddy Scott called them and so on. I ended up getting a set from a Mach 1 stang just to make it easy. They typically do not make such big primaries and collector. But I was trying to move my power band over so that I'd have some kind of traction because the common thought is that the bigger primaries and collectors would kill most of the low end. As it turned out all it did was make huge power and tq gains all through the power band... so now I have even less traction on the street :lol:
They took some grinding to fit, but I like doing things that are out of the norm. Price was like $900 or something, maybe even less, it was back in 2007 so I can't be sure honestly. Either way they were not much cheaper than the "normal" stainless headers for the Marauder. Really I go them just to see if it could be done, and what really happens when you go with headers that are "too big"

[Joe Walsh]

Don't think there is a part number, it was more I called them, then my buddy Scott called them and so on. I ended up getting a set from a Mach 1 stang just to make it easy. They typically do not make such big primaries and collector.
But I was trying to move my power band over so that I'd have some kind of traction because the common thought is that the bigger primaries and collectors would kill most of the low end. As it turned out all it did was make huge power and tq gains all through the power band...
so now I have even less traction on the street :lol:
They took some grinding to fit, but I like doing things that are out of the norm. Price was like $900 or something, maybe even less, it was back in 2007 so I can't be sure honestly. Either way they were not much cheaper than the "normal" stainless headers for the Marauder. Really I go them just to see if it could be done, and what really happens when you go with headers that are "too big"

These modular motors LOVE to breath!

And.....you have some extra cubes to make full use of the big primaries...:2thumbs:

[skyhigh]

i got some frpp shorty headers for 330 wit shipping!waitiing for install!

[RR|Suki]

That was my thinking, but in my journeys looking for info the thought was the that 4V even bored and stroked can't take big primaries. I went into it knowing that would be BS to a certain degree. I was still shocked at how far off the truth was from the reported truth

[skyhigh]

i am going to have it dynoed then install the frpp shorty headers and 4.10 gears.then dyno it again and post the results.that might help some of this forums of what is the benefits of shortys!huh glenn!

[ImpalaSlayer]

i am going to have it dynoed then install the frpp shorty headers and 4.10 gears.then dyno it again and post the results.that might help some of this forums of what is the benefits of shortys!huh glenn!

oh god just what Glenn needs :shake:

[skyhigh]

i am going to have it dynoed then install the frpp shorty headers and 4.10 gears.then dyno it again and post the results.this might help this forums about the benefits of shorty headers!huh glenn!

[bob6364]

Does anyone here currently have the mach1 headers on their car?

[skyhigh]

sorry didnt mean to post that twice!dont you think that would benefit us?

[FordNut]

That was my thinking, but in my journeys looking for info the thought was the that 4V even bored and stroked can't take big primaries. I went into it knowing that would be BS to a certain degree. I was still shocked at how far off the truth was from the reported truth

Go with a lower stall speed converter. 2200-2400 should help.

[skyhigh]

you should change stall wit headers?

[FordNut]

No, you should change to a lower stall speed if you're blowing away the tires.

[skyhigh]

oh wit tune!is that what you men?

[cougar9150]

oh wit tune!is that what you men?

No he is saying if RR Suki is blowing away the tires going to a lower stall torque converter would help him with his traction issues when launching.

[musclemerc]

How high? :P

[RR|Suki]

Go with a lower stall speed converter. 2200-2400 should help.

Hmm, that's a possibility I hadn't even really payed attention to :eek:

[Glenn]

You guys will just never learn - its what happens on the street and on the track that counts NOT the frinkin dyno. Check my Sig - That's all I need to say - nothin more! When you run better then my times then you become legit to even comment on Shorties vs LTs. Until then it is just :bs: and it's getting deep - http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/forums/images/smilies/BSmeter.gif

Glenn Ford http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/forums/images/smilies/gatlin.gif

[RR|Suki]

who even said anything about shorties vs LTs? Maybe make a run without a race gas tune see how far your awesome headers get you ;)

[skyhigh]

got u!thanks for info!

[burt ragio]

Your chioces are Kooks long tube FFP shortys Stainless Works long tube. If you do a search you will even find dyno comparisons. These are my SW ceramic coated long tubes.

[fastblackmerc]

Your chioces are Kooks long tube FFP shortys Stainless Works long tube. If you do a search you will even find dyno comparisons. These are my SW ceramic coated long tubes.

These are the Ford shorty headers in stainless steel, Jet-Hot coated.... well one side anyway.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Exhaust/MustangShorties.jpg

[LSp8]

Yeah headers for these cars are pricey as hell, how much are the Ford Shorty's ^^^^

[fastblackmerc]

Yeah headers for these cars are pricey as hell, how much are the Ford Shorty's ^^^^

Got mine on eBay for less than $200.00 including shipping.

[Da Dark Jedi]

Has anybody ( Those with shorties ) done a Dyno comparison, with the stock and then with the shorties? What are the results?

[skyhigh]

i will be doing that soon!

[dohc324ci]

Hey Sky let me know when you go down to Vendicated and do the work; I want to re-dyno after just resolving my P0190 code and replacing the COPs.

[skyhigh]

cool i am going to call billy tommorrow and try and set something up.i will let you know and we can roll together!

[babbage]

You guys will just never learn - its what happens on the street and on the track that counts NOT the frinkin dyno. http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/forums/images/smilies/BSmeter.gif

Glenn Ford


Speaking of BS Glen - did you back that time up? or was that just a lucky single pass, done on a cold day with cold engine with race gas tune etc.

Can you back it up? :rolleyes:

Those aren't even equal length shorties!

[babbage]

Your chioces are Kooks long tube FFP shortys Stainless Works long tube. If you do a search you will even find dyno comparisons. These are my SW ceramic coated long tubes.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18 312&d=1263949035
That's a nice setup! Nice bolted on flanges. Who did your install?

[RR|Suki]

Speaking of BS Glen - did you back that time up? or was that just a lucky single pass, done on a cold day with cold engine with race gas tune etc.

Can you back it up? :rolleyes:

Those aren't even equal length shorties!

He runs a race gas tune, cheater slick and a 2-step and compares his times to people running street gas tunes. He likes to act like it has something to do with the headers, but frankly stock manifolds would do the same thing. The real gains are the race gas tune. The point he misses constantly (and unfortunately) is that there are tons of different ways to skin a cat, you can make a ton of power with the stock exhaust system. Fact is though with everything the same you will make more power with LTs.
So the kind of power one car makes without longtubes vs one with long tubes is a totally moot point, because other things had to be added to the equation instead of the LTs to create the extra power... in his case a race gas tune.

[Glenn]

Glad others know my car better then me. The race tune is over stated - its main purpose is to prevent pulling timing from frequent runs when the engine gets hotter. With higher octane gas it is worth maybe 30 HP. Tires are MT DOT DRs - the same everyone else is running. Did not use the 2 Step at SSHS9 - all foot. I would have gone to it on the third run, but someone blew their trans, fluid was all over the track and they closed the track down because it would take too long to clean it up and then run again.

The main point is LT are expensive and over rated for the HP gain. That's my only point. Shorties are an option.

Notice these runs are comletely back to back - total consistently with the car. :beer:

http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/38/19/718391.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-Southern-ShootOut_718391.htm?ref=cf6d32 06-d490-4395-a2bc-994f01052e47) http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/38/89/718398.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Southern-Super-Shootout_718398.htm?ref=cf6d32 06-d490-4395-a2bc-994f01052e47)

Glenn Ford :burnout:

[RR|Suki]

Glad others know my car better then me. The race tune is over stated - its main purpose is to prevent pulling timing from frequent runs when the engine gets hotter. With higher octane gas it is worth maybe 30 HP. Tires are MT DOT DRs - the same everyone else is running. Did not use the 2 Step at SSHS9 - all foot. I would have gone to it on the third run, but someone blew their trans, fluid was all over the track and they closed the track down because it would take too long to clean it up and then run again.

The main point is LT are expensive and over rated for the HP gain. That's my only point. Shorties are an option.

Notice these runs are comletely back to back - total consistently with the car. :beer:

http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/38/19/718391.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-Southern-ShootOut_718391.htm?ref=cf6d32 06-d490-4395-a2bc-994f01052e47) http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/38/89/718398.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Southern-Super-Shootout_718398.htm?ref=cf6d32 06-d490-4395-a2bc-994f01052e47)

Glenn Ford :burnout:

Point proven, in your own sig you have 440whp, in your vid you make 480whp... that's 40hp how is that not a big gain? that's a good .40 in the 1/4 So on your non race gas tune you'd prob do a 12.2... you really don't think the race gas tune is what makes the biggest difference? :P