Eaton Swap Parts List Thread

[bob6364]

Ok here is my idea like get a brain trust going to put down on internet paper what is need for the BASIC install of an Eaton on the Marauder and then get it stickyed....I'll start if you can add something PLEASE post.

Here is the parts list for the 03/04 Eaton Swap to the Mercury Marauder:

Parts are scavenged off the 03/04 Mustang Cobra unless otherwised noted.

The car will have to be dyno tuned afterwards so ask around and find a good tuner in your area.Tell him what you did and he can get you a base tune for your car so you can safely drive it to his shop.Prices will very but figure about $500 if you don't already have a SCT or Diablo handheld tuner.

Eaton Supercharger (Low miles preferred or ported even better)

Billetflow 3.4 or 3.1 pulley, non-slip upper pulley
LFP Quick Change Lower Pulley Kit 2003-04 Mustang Cobra 2#
or goto
Metcomotorsports and order Product ID: MMC0001 Supercharger Installation Kit
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/MMC0001-1.jpg

Supercharger Belt
Pulleys
****************L O W E R********
*********stock*****2#****4#*** *6#*****
U STOCK**53 1/2***54 1/2
P 3.4
P 3.2*************53 1/2
E 3.0
R 2.9
Stock Eaton 3.6 Upper with 2 lb lower = 25080537 Belt from NAPA
Eaton Lower intake

Stock Plenum

Intercooler

Intercooler Reservoir( stock works well)

Custom Bracket for Intercooler Reservoir

Intercooler pump #F8YH8501AA (new or used doesn't matter)
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/Mobile%20Uploads/0218002240.jpg

Intercooler pump wiring pigtail 3U2Z14S411BJA / WPT260

Intercooler pump bracket #4W33-8N500-A or make your own.

Heater coolant return tube:
for such a little tube it can be a pain...there are 3 ways to go about making clarence for the tube
Either smash the OEM one with a hammer so it clears the lower intake.
If you use the Marauder tube you will also need to plug the small coolant line that goes to the PCV valve fitting on the intake manifold.The Cobra tube does not have this fitting.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/heaterline.jpg
There is a lot of 'webbing' under the Cobra lower intake that can be removed to solve the clearance issue between it and the coolant tube. Go slow and check clearance without the gasket in place when the intake just touches the tube then you are done the gasket will add extra space.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/EatonLower.jpg
or replace it with this one that fits properly:
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437

You will need to cut and weld to make a coolant crossover tube from the original in this manner;
Shorten the factory crossover about an inch in height and length. Weld up the end that attaches to the thermostat, removed and rewelded the mounting tabs to the botom of the crossover so they bolt to the heads, move the the other coolant hose nipple(the barb on the passenger side of the crossover tube) so it doesnt hit the belt tensioner.Make a tee from a couple of metal hosebarbs from the hardware store. The tee conects the upper radiator hose to the thermostat.Also either eliminate or plug the hose fitting that goes to the PCV valve fitting on the intake manifold.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/coolanttube.jpg

swap brackets (conversion brackets)search Gortch on MM.net also 3-8mm x 120mm bolts and 3-8mm x 150mm got mine from Fastenal ,got them next day.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/brackets.jpg
Take the top smooth idler pulley off the passenger side of the timing cover part number XR3Z-8678-BA and install it backwards on the alternator bracket.The alternator may need just a small amount of material removed to clear the pulley.
A ribbed idler pulley#F5RZ-6C348-A needs to be installed where the smooth idler used to be.

Cobra intake tube and MAF

Mafia

IAT sensor; DY-754 /pigtail; WPT-322 or use the Cobra sensor, just get the pigtail #3u2z-14s411-ssa (note, if the blower didn't come with the Cobra sensor you need to get one to plug off the hole anyway.

Here is a wonderful pinout for the MAF swap from 6-wire MM to 4 wire Cobra provided by Fordnut;
From MM > To Cobra
MAF P1 Gy/Rd > MAP/BAP/IAT2 P4 Gy/Rd Signal Return
MAF P6 Gy > MAP/BAP/IAT2 P3 DB/LG MAF Signal
EGR P2 Bn/Wh > MAP/BAP/IAT2 P2 Bn/Wh Reference Voltage
EGR P3 LB/Rd > MAP/BAP/IAT2 P1 Rd/Ye MAP Sensor Signal

If you use the 2 wire sensor then pinout is
MM>Lightning
MAF P1 Grey/Red > Grey
MAF P6 Grey > Grey

Throttle Bracket 2R3Z9728BA and Cable 2R3Z9A758AA or
use the original cable and bracket with one small modification
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/IMG00008-20091229-1632k.jpg

K&N RE-0870 Air Filter

Metco MAF to Air filter adapter plate
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/Mobile%20Uploads/0218002312.jpg

39lb fuel injectors minimum

Belt tensioner 2R3Z-6B209-AA

Alternator Pulley F5AZ-10344-A, Motorcraft GP-712

Kenne Bell Boost A Pump 40amp

Ford GT supercar fuel pump
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/Mobile%20Uploads/0218002101.jpg

Heat Exchanger and plumbing

Fabricate brackets for heat exchanger.

Battery tray #F7ZZ-10732-AA and group 58 battery so you can keep your windshield washer fluid bottle.

new longer battery cable

EGR delete stuff.
Here is the 'kit' for those who cant/dont want to make one from scratch.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...te-kit-p-31575 (http://www.lethalperformance.com/2011-shelby-gt500-exhaust-egr-delete-c-8485_8846_8883/lethal-performance-egr-delete-kit-p-31575)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/eaton%20stuff/LP-EGRDELETE_MED.jpg

New accessory belt Napa#060988(99.5 inches)or
Napa#060990 ( 99 5/8th)

[Zack]

The MAFia is a good idea, and does not have anything to do with the size of injector.

Lets debate the list a little, revise it and see if we can make it a sticky.

[bawazir]

Wow! everyone is doing it

[Zack]

Waiting to hear from a major vendor to consolidate a few items on this list to one part#

Stay tuned...

[musclemerc]

Not to high jack but it looks like Bawazir and Zack are NOT the same person Bob, they both just chimmed in on the same thread!

[swordfish]

I'll add the cobra cooling tube and bolts. for under the intake
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437

[SC Cheesehead]

The MAFia is a good idea, and does not have anything to do with the size of injector.

Lets debate the list a little, revise it and see if we can make it a sticky.


Would LOVE to see that! The Eaton swap is getting popular.

[swordfish]

Also what about the Ider pulley? XR-32-8678-BA
If anyone needs any more part # let me know I have them.

[Marauder Rick]

:beer:You guys are my heros

[ctrlraven]

Next Marauderville should be at Zack's and have several days of Eaton installs. lol

[bawazir]

Next Marauderville should be at Zack's and have several days of Eaton installs. lol

Mine would be there soon :)

[ImpalaSlayer]

Next Marauderville should be at Zack's and have several days of Eaton installs. lol
better yet, have Zack come out here and ill empty out my hanger (60'x100') and we can do 10 at one time lol

[swordfish]

better yet, have Zack come out here and ill empty out my hanger (60'x100') and we can do 10 at one time lol

I would like to make appointment for this!!!!!

[-Matt-]

Are we finding someone to make the front brackets now? I thought their was only like 5 of em made?

[Zack]

You cant use a Cobra Coolant Crossover in conjunction with the Belt Tensioner Bracket!

Update that 1st post!

[swordfish]

I'll add the cobra cooling tube and bolts. for under the intake
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437
This tube under the intake.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17 573&d=1257026062 (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17 573&d=1257026062)

[Zack]

Got it, thanks for the clarification.

[FordNut]

You will need to cut and weld the original water crossover tube
or use the Cobra cooling tube and bolts.
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437


This is confusing. Sould read something like this:

You will need to cut and weld to make a coolant crossover tube by combining the original crossover tube with a Cobra crossover tube.

Heater coolant return tube: Either smash the OEM one with a hammer so it clears the lower intake or replace it with this one that fits properly:
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437

[bob6364]

I was partway with the update when the mrs call out "supper"...so off I went :D I forgot about that nasty little tube under the intake thanks....

[tjl006]

Just need to modify the marauder crossover, you dont need the cobra tube and the marauders. You can do it with both though if you wanted. I followed impalaslayers example shortened the factory crossover about an inch in height and length. Welded up the end that ataches to the thermostat, removed and rewelded the mounting tabs to the botom of the crossover so they bolt to the heads, moved the the other coolant hose nipple(the barb on the passenger side of the crossover tube) so it doesnt hit the belt tensioner. I made a tee from a couple of metal hosebarbs from the hardware store belive there 1.5 barbs. The tee conects the upper radiator hose to the thermostat.

[bob6364]

ok everyone refresh...see how that looks

[bob6364]

Just need to modify the marauder crossover, you dont need the cobra tube and the marauders. You can do it with both though if you wanted. I followed impalaslayers example shortened the factory crossover about an inch in height and length. Welded up the end that ataches to the thermostat, removed and rewelded the mounting tabs to the botom of the crossover so they bolt to the heads, moved the the other coolant hose nipple(the barb on the passenger side of the crossover tube) so it doesnt hit the belt tensioner. I made a tee from a couple of metal hosebarbs from the hardware store belive there 1.5 barbs. The tee conects the upper radiator hose to the thermostat.

Hmmm...I guess if the name of the game is get superchargered for short money and the cobra tube really isn't needed maybe I should delete it.

[FordNut]

Just need to modify the marauder crossover, you dont need the cobra tube and the marauders. You can do it with both though if you wanted. I followed impalaslayers example shortened the factory crossover about an inch in height and length. Welded up the end that ataches to the thermostat, removed and rewelded the mounting tabs to the botom of the crossover so they bolt to the heads, moved the the other coolant hose nipple(the barb on the passenger side of the crossover tube) so it doesnt hit the belt tensioner. I made a tee from a couple of metal hosebarbs from the hardware store belive there 1.5 barbs. The tee conects the upper radiator hose to the thermostat.

I'd like to see Zack's new idea on this piece...

[tjl006]

I would also like to hear zacks idea does it involve any parts from evenflow?

[bob6364]

I will be afkb for an hour...have to powder coat a bracket for someone....

[FordNut]

Throttle Bracket 2R3Z9728BA and Cable 2R3Z9A758AA

Intercooler pump (new or used doesn't matter)


I used my MM cable, did others have to switch?

Gotta come up with some sort of bracket for the pump.

Need an intercooler reservoir & cap and some sort of bracket for it.

[Zack]

I would also like to hear zacks idea does it involve any parts from evenflow?

Im gonna start experimenting in about 2 weeks.

[bob6364]

Wow this is going good...more,more gimmee more.

[Zack]

Extra Battery Tray, Battery Cable

I used a different battery altogether, but I think Dave was able to use the stock battery.

[bob6364]

Extra Battery Tray, Battery Cable

I used a different battery altogether, but I think Dave was able to use the stock battery.

I was just thinking the same thing zack...also i'm going to start injecting pics....i will rezize them and neaten up as we go along

[swordfish]

Also what about the Ider pulley? XR-32-8678-BA
If anyone needs any more part # let me know I have them.
Zack, What about the idler pulley? I've been putting all this togather for a couple of months now. I want to have everything for short down time. I was told that we needed the smaller pulley for the bracket. I've not bought this yet so I wanted to double check with you or dave. Thanks

[Zack]

Zack, What about the idler pulley? I've been putting all this togather for a couple of months now. I want to have everything for short down time. I was told that we needed the smaller pulley for the bracket. I've not bought this yet so I wanted to double check with you or dave. Thanks

You take the smooth idler off the timing cover and install it backwards on the alternator bracket.

The alternator will need just a small amount of material removed to clear it.

[bob6364]

Zack did you find a already made battery cable?do you have a part number for the new battery cable?

Blower Belt part number?

[Zack]

IC pump bracket


(I made my own)

[bob6364]

IC pump bracket


(I made my own)

they can use a zip tie;)

[Zack]

they can use a zip tie;)

I wouldnt go that ghetto. :depress:

[bob6364]

someone posted a pic of a hammered coolant tube under the intake...need that pic .....NM found it :D

[Zack]

Gonna need the EGR delete stuff.
Here is the 'kit' for those who cant/dont want to make one from scratch.
http://www.lethalperformance.com/2011-shelby-gt500-exhaust-egr-delete-c-8485_8846_8883/lethal-performance-egr-delete-kit-p-31575

http://www.lethalperformance.com/images/medium/LP-EGRDELETE_MED.jpg

[jdenning002]

could yo use the cobra "pulley bridge" (see link)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-04-Mustang-Cobra-pulley-bridge-bracket-eaton-4-6_W0QQitemZ270532696547QQcmdZV iewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_P arts_Accessories?hash=item3efd 0159e3

Which belt numbers?


if not, for the "swap brakets": cost? avalibility?

Thanks!!!

[FordNut]

I'll see if I can find the part number for the pigtail for using the OEM Cobra IAT sensor instead of the Lightning one.

[jdenning002]

how about vacuum lines?

do you need the cobra lines?

[bob6364]

how about vacuum lines?

do you need the cobra lines?

no you don't

[Zack]

Id like to add this:

There is a lot of 'webbing' under the Cobra lower intake that can be removed to solve the clearance issue between it and the coolant tube. I never did grind the lower instead of 'massaging' the tube (<<<<<<<LOL) but Im confident minimal if ANY tube mods need to be done if the lower intake is prepped accordingly.
See pic below:

[swordfish]

Not sure if it helps but I bought the whole harness for 5 bucks more then ford wanted for the plug. I can get the part # when I get home tonite.

Ford Magnuson Lightning Cobra Intercooler Pump Harness

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!BlFiIv!BWk~$(KGrHqIH-CQEtjf))(nLBL,L2pHv,w~~_12.JPG








intercooler water pump wire harness. Complete it includes fuse, relay and pump connector.
This harness is used in Magnuson supercharger kits which utilizes a Bosch pump.
The pump is used on supercharged Ford Lightning and Cobra Mustangs.

[swordfish]

You take the smooth idler off the timing cover and install it backwards on the alternator bracket.

The alternator will need just a small amount of material removed to clear it.
Ok, so with the smaller pulley you do not have to work on the alternator?:confused:

[Zack]

Ok, so with the smaller pulley you do not have to work on the alternator?:confused:

I never used a smaller idler pulley so I cant answer that.

The material that needs to be removed form the alternator is MINIMAL!

[bob6364]

I never used a smaller idler pulley so I cant answer that.

The material that needs to be removed form the alternator is MINIMAL!

Zack i'm pretty sure you had a pic of the alt. after it was ground...can you dig that up?

[bob6364]

Not sure if it helps but I bought the whole harness for 5 bucks more then ford wanted for the plug. I can get the part # when I get home tonite.

Ford Magnuson Lightning Cobra Intercooler Pump Harness

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!BlFiIv!BWk~$(KGrHqIH-CQEtjf))(nLBL,L2pHv,w~~_12.JPG








intercooler water pump wire harness. Complete it includes fuse, relay and pump connector.
This harness is used in Magnuson supercharger kits which utilizes a Bosch pump.
The pump is used on supercharged Ford Lightning and Cobra Mustangs.



Please find the part number...thats a nice find

[swordfish]

I'll see if I can find the part number for the pigtail for using the OEM Cobra IAT sensor instead of the Lightning one.
I'm ordering all my dealer parts next week it's the only number I don't have.

[FordNut]

I'll see if I can find the part number for the pigtail for using the OEM Cobra IAT sensor instead of the Lightning one.


I'm ordering all my dealer parts next week it's the only number I don't have.

I couldn't find the number out in the garage, called the dealer's parts dept and they looked it up. This ought to be it: 3u2z-14s411-ssa

[cougar9150]

Not sure where I read it but do you also have to grind down the knock sensor posts?

Edit: never mind saw it in one of the other pics.

This is great stuff guys, adding it all to my spreadsheet, and will be able to start picking the odds and ends up soon.

[ImpalaSlayer]

i did indeed use the stock battery but the washer fluid bottle was deleted. i have a new group 58 battery and a new tray that i will be adding when ever i get it into the shop so that i can add my washer fluid bottle back. ill be sure to take pics of this.

the cobra throttle cable isnt necessary. see my post for the cable bracket mod. if you just need pics of any of this stuff just pm my, ill be happy to take some pics.

[swordfish]

I couldn't find the number out in the garage, called the dealer's parts dept and they looked it up. This ought to be it: 3u2z-14s411-ssa
Thanks you!!!! sir

[swordfish]

:help:Zack, Took me a little while to find it but here is the post on the Idler pulley. I just want to make sure we don't need it. I was incorrect about it being smaller. It's flat.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&highlight=xr32-8678-ba

[Zack]

:help:Zack, Took me a little while to find it but here is the post on the Idler pulley. I just want to make sure we don't need it. I was incorrect about it being smaller. It's flat.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&highlight=xr32-8678-ba

The smooth idler from the timing cover is relocated to the alternator relocatioon bracket.

[FordNut]

The smooth idler from the timing cover is relocated to the alternator relocation bracket.

Unless somebody can figure out a part number for the one used on the Trilogy kit. It's a little bit thinner so the alternator housing doesn't have to be ground off.

I've seen it but I'm not sure if it's an OEM Ford part. I have a totally different pulley setup on mine since I'm running an 8-rib belt.

[swordfish]

Here is the part # for the ford gt fuel pump. 4G7Z-9A407-CA
FORD GT SUPERCAR 265LPH FUEL PUMP COMPLETE ASSEMBLY

[Zack]

Unless somebody can figure out a part number for the one used on the Trilogy kit. It's a little bit thinner so the alternator housing doesn't have to be ground off.

I've seen it but I'm not sure if it's an OEM Ford part. I have a totally different pulley setup on mine since I'm running an 8-rib belt.


Its custom made by Billetflow.


Here is the part # for the ford gt fuel pump. 4G7Z-9A407-CA
FORD GT SUPERCAR 265LPH FUEL PUMP COMPLETE ASSEMBLY

or Short # PFB-81

[tjl006]

Didnt need to grind the flat idler for gortchs brackets, also didnt need to grind the alternator maby the old brackets were different.

[swordfish]

Didnt need to grind the flat idler for gortchs brackets, also didnt need to grind the alternator maby the old brackets were different.
So if I use the flat pulley don't need to grind the alt??

[tjl006]

Flat idler has nothing to do with the alternator, you have to use it for the bracket to work there in no other option. Grinding the alternator has to do with belt alighnment i guess. I did not have a problem with that.

[Zack]

Oh lord!
You grind the alternator because the idler pulley will make contact with it if you dont!

[ImpalaSlayer]

Oh lord!
You grind the alternator because the idler pulley will make contact with it if you dont!


i didnt grind anything

[Zack]

:help:
i didnt grind anything

Now you are making me wonder If I ground anything! I know Im crazy, but this is crazy. :confused:

[swordfish]

i didnt grind anything
Hey, Dave what idler pulley did you use? I'm pretty sure I've got the same brackets as you.:confused::shake:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Hey, Dave what idler pulley did you use? I'm pretty sure I've got the same brackets as you.:confused::shake:


i used the one that is removed from the passenger bank. you replace that one with a ribbed idler.

[ImpalaSlayer]

:help:

Now you are making me wonder If I ground anything! I know Im crazy, but this is crazy. :confused:

i know on the ones you sent me before you would have had to grind it but it seems Terry has changed the design a bit

[Zack]

I can sleep tonight, thanks Davie.

[tjl006]

Oh Lord;) So much grinding so little time. The only thing me and dave(I belive) had to grind was some material of the alternator bracket because it was rubbing on the water pump pulley. I dont know if terry fixed that on his new brackets.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Oh Lord;) So much grinding so little time. The only thing me and dave(I belive) had to grind was some material of the alternator bracket because it was rubbing on the water pump pulley. I dont know if terry fixed that on his new brackets.

that is correct, 2 mins with the belt sander ans it was good to go. i did tell Terry about it when i first ran into the problem and sent him pics so hopefully he corrects the next brackets he makes.

[tjl006]

I think the issue was that on his set up I belive the lip on the waterpump pulley was removed, ours still had the lip so that rubs the bracket. No lip on the pulley would make it so you could chane the belt without taking the alterntor bracket off.

[swordfish]

:dunno: So I need to get a 8 rib idler? Any part number?:bigcry:

[ImpalaSlayer]

I think the issue was that on his set up I belive the lip on the waterpump pulley was removed, ours still had the lip so that rubs the bracket. No lip on the pulley would make it so you could chane the belt without taking the alterntor bracket off.

yeah i had a lipless pulley but decided not to use it.

[ImpalaSlayer]

:dunno: So I need to get a 8 rib idler? Any part number?:bigcry:

no sir a six rib. i have the part number in the shop but i know Zack has it as well. if he dosent get it by tomorrow i will post it here

[tjl006]

XR3Z-8678-BA theres the number Dave is correct its the width of six ribs but the pulley is not ribed, its flat, hence the name flat idler;)

[swordfish]

no sir a six rib. i have the part number in the shop but i know Zack has it as well. if he dosent get it by tomorrow i will post it here
Thanks:bows:

[ImpalaSlayer]

XR3Z-8678-BA theres the number Dave is correct its the width of six ribs but the pulley is not ribed, its flat, hence the name flat idler;)

Tom, that is for the alt bracket correct? i was talking about the one that goes where that one USED to go on the passenger side bank

[tjl006]

My bad. Yeah that the nuber for the flat idler

[ImpalaSlayer]

IC pump bracket


(I made my own)

did i ever show you what i did with mine? i think its pretty cool.

[tjl006]

This should be the number for the ribed YW7Z-8678-AA

[Zack]

We have to start deleting some of these posts before everyone gets discouraged to do this. :lol:

[tjl006]

did i ever show you what i did with mine? i think its pretty cool.
I liked to see if you got pics.

[ImpalaSlayer]

We have to start deleting some of these posts before everyone gets discouraged to do this. :lol:
ha, i think this should just be a collective thought gathering post, then make a nice clean one that we cant get in and eff up lol

[tjl006]

After about fifty pages Im sure will have all the parts numbers

[ImpalaSlayer]

I liked to see if you got pics.

sure in spring when my ****in car is thawed out! :lol:

[tjl006]

Being coaxed into giving part numbers one post at a time feels alot easier then doing it all in one shot, its starnge how the mind works

[bob6364]

Well the parts list thread is turning into a parts build thread....but very cool...this thing has been long over due.

[swordfish]

After about fifty pages Im sure will have all the parts numbers
At this rate I'm thinking more like 70 or 80 pages:lol:

[Zack]

Hey Dave go to your car and get the # off the accessory belt when you get time...

[ImpalaSlayer]

Hey Dave go to your car and get the # off the accessory belt when you get time...

its only a 3 rib now......


i have a new one in the bronco that is 1/8" longer, but a 99.5" is about as small as you can go. the new one is 99 5/8ths

[FordNut]

Mine is a K080980, but it may be shorter than what y'all are using. I have an underdrive crank pulley.

[ImpalaSlayer]

wait, i have the sleeve right in front of me from my old one

060988- napa number (99.5 inches)

[FordNut]

its only a 3 rib now......


i have a new one in the bronco that is 1/8" longer, but a 99.5" is about as small as you can go. the new one is 99 5/8ths

3 ribs? do you have an alignment problem?

[ImpalaSlayer]

3 ribs? do you have an alignment problem?

nope, alt locked up and shreded the belt. i only have 3 ribs, some spots only 1! lol

[FordNut]

OIC

I had an alternator go out and catch on fire.

[Zack]

Thanks Dave, now go make use of that empty sleeve. :eek:

[ImpalaSlayer]

OIC

I had an alternator go out and catch on fire.

this one was close, lota smoke rolling outa the hood!
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59763&highlight=alternator

[ImpalaSlayer]

Thanks Dave, now go make use of that empty sleeve. :eek:
its too big :alone:

[Zack]

its too big :alone:

cuz we all knew you were'nt talking about your junk. :lol:

[FordNut]

Some suggested revisions in bold



Intercooler Reservoir( stock works well)

Custom Bracket for Intercooler Reservoir



Heater coolant return tube:
for such a little tube it can be a pain...there are 3 ways to go about making clarence for the tube
Either smash the OEM one with a hammer so it clears the lower intake
or
There is a lot of 'webbing' under the Cobra lower intake that can be removed to solve the clearance issue between it and the coolant tube. Go slow and check clearance without the gasket in place when the intake just touches the tube then you are done the gasket will add extra space.

or replace it with this one that fits properly:
Cooling tube F8ZZ-18B402-BA
Screw N807959-S309
Bolt N807309-S437

If you use the Marauder tube you will also need to plug the small coolant line that goes to the PCV valve fitting on the intake manifold. The Cobra tube does not have this fitting.


IAT sensor; DY-754 /pigtail; WPT-322

or use the Cobra sensor, just get the pigtail #3u2z-14s411-ssa (note, if the blower didn't come with the Cobra sensor you need to get one to plug off the hole anyway)


You will need to cut and weld to make a coolant crossover tube from the original in this manner;
Shorten the factory crossover about an inch in height and length. Weld up the end that attaches to the thermostat, removed and rewelded the mounting tabs to the botom of the crossover so they bolt to the heads, move the the other coolant hose nipple(the barb on the passenger side of the crossover tube) so it doesnt hit the belt tensioner.Make a tee from a couple of metal hosebarbs from the hardware store. The tee conects the upper radiator hose to the thermostat.

Also either eliminate or plug the hose fitting that goes to the PCV valve fitting on the intake manifold.


Heat Exchanger and plumbing

Fabricate brackets for heat exchanger.

[bob6364]

Some suggested revisions in bold

NICE...thanks Fordnut....

[FordNut]

Idler pulley and alternator pulley from another thread... Y'all might ought to make sure what's right.



Terry said he used a pulley from an 04 F150 on his. I got one from the Ford dealer and it looks like that's the ticket. It moves the belt out about 1/4" farther from the alternator (closer to the timing cover). I'll put it on in the morning but I think it will do the trick. The PN for the pulley with Gorsuch's brackets is NOT F5OY-10344-F, which the Trilogy kit uses. The correct PN is F5AZ-10344-A (Motorcraft GP-712). At least that's what works on my setup (and his).

[tjl006]

Me and dave used f5oy-10344-f worked fine?

[bob6364]

Idler pulley and alternator pulley from another thread... Y'all might ought to make sure what's right.
I wonder if thats why Daves pulley went south...incorrect belt alignment put stress on old bearings

[tjl006]

Dont think so pulley is very close to timing cover like its supposed to be.

[FordNut]

I dunno, dude had an alignment issue. It's Terry's brackets and his pulley recommendations...

[swordfish]

Idler pulley and alternator pulley from another thread... Y'all might ought to make sure what's right.
I can see now I'm going to end up with left over pulley's!:help::shake:

[Zack]

The Part # for the ribbed idler that is installed on the timing cover is:
F5RZ-6C348-A

IC Pump Bracket Part # is:
4W33-8N500-A

[ImpalaSlayer]

IC Pump Bracket Part # is:
4W33-8N500-A

isnt that a trilogy part number?

[Zack]

I learned today the alternator pulley part # has been changed from F5OY-10344-F

To:


F5OY-10344-FA

[Zack]

isnt that a trilogy part number?

Its straight from the Trilogy Manual and looks to be a genuine Ford #

Who knows though

[Vortech347]

Any problems using a factory lower crank pully and cage? I have one already.

BTW, Epic thread. Thanks guys to all who have put their R&D into it.

I plan on using the eaton off our 01 when we whipple it.

[Zack]

Any problems using a factory lower crank pully and cage? I have one already.

BTW, Epic thread. Thanks guys to all who have put their R&D into it.

I plan on using the eaton off our 01 when we whipple it.

The Cobra Timing cover has unique bosses necessary to mount the Cobra lower, so thats not an option.

[ImpalaSlayer]

The Cobra Timing cover has unique bosses necessary to mount the Cobra lower, so thats not an option.

what he said. its a no go with out a cover swap which then defeats the purpose of this entire thread

[Vortech347]

Great news. Thanks guys. I'll e-bay it! :)

[ImpalaSlayer]

Great news. Thanks guys. I'll e-bay it! :)

i see them sell on svtp all the time. id try a mustang site first since its free.

[Vortech347]

Oh I will. I've sold just about every nut'n bolt off an 03 cobra vert the past 2 months. Parting out a car via internet, i'll NEVER do it again.

Sorry, back on topic.

[Big Black Beast]

The company I work for could probably make those brackets easy.
No promises, but I would be willing to take a stab at having the brackets and water crossover thingy mass produced. Parts would have to be steel, not aluminum though, and the only finish choice would be black powdercoat. I have no idea on price. I would have to get them drawn first to get the materials costed. If anyone is interested in working with me on this, PM me.

[FordNut]

Another option for the crank pulley (it's SFI approved).

Innovators west crank pulley and adapter for Metco pulley from Innovators West, and a Metco lower pulley in whichever size is desired.

[69428SCJ]

The Cobra Timing cover has unique bosses necessary to mount the Cobra lower, so thats not an option.

So I wanna make sure I'm understanding this right because I've kinda fuzzy on it. In order to properly swap on the Eaton from my cobra I'm going to need the Cobra upper, lower AND a new timing cover?

[ImpalaSlayer]

So I wanna make sure I'm understanding this right because I've kinda fuzzy on it. In order to properly swap on the Eaton from my cobra I'm going to need the Cobra upper, lower AND a new timing cover?


no no no

buying the brackets from Terry (gortch), will allow you run the eaton on your mm timing cover (the entire point of this thread). then all you need is a metco or LFP lower pulley kit that bolts on to your existing factory balancer.

[ImpalaSlayer]

brackets

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0927.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0921.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0923.jpg

lower pulley kit

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0916.jpg

Bob, feel free to use any of these

[bawazir]

Good updated info

[PSG]

just out of curiosity , how different is the cobra timing cover, and would swapping to one of those and using that pully set up be easier?

[ImpalaSlayer]

just out of curiosity , how different is the cobra timing cover, and would swapping to one of those and using that pully set up be easier?

no it would be much harder that is the whole point of using these brackets. plus you have that *****y cobra pulley bridge. i think if i had a cobra id swap a timing cover to this set up lol

[PSG]

ok, my other question is do you have to eliminate the egr valve, and will that create any other problems, such as emissions testing, or does the cobra not use one?

[ImpalaSlayer]

ok, my other question is do you have to eliminate the egr valve, and will that create any other problems, such as emissions testing, or does the cobra not use one?

you could prolly keep it but you would have to engineer your own stuff there. where i live they just plug in and check for codes. so after the codes are turned off in the tune they never know!

[PSG]

thats all they do here but if the egr isnt present, the wont the computer pick it up every time it calls for it to open and reset the light , or can that be eliminated with the tune

[ImpalaSlayer]

thats all they do here but if the egr isnt present, the wont the computer pick it up every time it calls for it to open and reset the light , or can that be eliminated with the tune

every single code and be turned off in the tune, i think i have 2or 3 turned off from deleting the egr. once its turned off, the dmv's computer has no clue that code even exists.

[PSG]

i,ve been bouncing around the threads here and this is great, i have been concidering this for a while and to have this all layed out should make it alot easier.

[bob6364]

Ok i put up a chart on post 1 ....post up some belt sizes.

[Marauder Rick]

well, its point of no return. the bid is in for the eaton and i think im gonna win it. Oh man....it feel like December 24th.

[Marauder Rick]

btw....THAT ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH. I could not have even began to do this without you all.

[-Matt-]

Lets get this ball rolling rick! We can do an s/c install week on both of our rides!!

[65DOHCStang]

Terry Gorsuch is working on a new tensioner bracket that is just sex on wheels! It's not ready to sell yet, but he's putting it on his engine and it is slick.

[FordNut]

It would require some additional engineering to retain the EGR valve. For one thing, it won't clear the wiper motor mounting/cowl cover so that will need mods. For another thing the MM EGR valve works differently from the Cobra one, so it would take a little bit of work to figure out which type would work out better. Most people just turn it off in the tune. Some places do a visual inspection, so if they see that there is no EGR valve you'll fail emissions. Some places have a much more in-depth computer code reader so if they hook up to the OBDII port and find sensors (rear O2 sensors, etc) that are turned off you'll fail. So the solution has to be determined on a case-by-case basis. Some of these comments are from Mustang enthusiasts. So far I don't know of any issues with the MM guys, but there are only a few conversions out there and not many of them have been through emissions since the conversion.

[bob6364]

I know in CT they do a random audit of cars and if you show up as having sensors turned of you get a nasty gram from the state. It says if you bring the car thru again with anything turned off you will automatically fail.I got one 2 years ago on the Saleen...so I guess you get a 2 year free ride or a 4 year free ride if you do the swap right after you go thru emissions :D

[Zack]

It is true that a good majority of states have the technology to 'probe' the pcm to see if any codes are turned off.

[PSG]

i just want to weed out any problems ahead of time, it would suck to get done and then get my reg. pulled because the thing won't go through emissions

[ImpalaSlayer]

I know in CT they do a random audit of cars and if you show up as having sensors turned of you get a nasty gram from the state. It says if you bring the car thru again with anything turned off you will automatically fail.I got one 2 years ago on the Saleen...so I guess you get a 2 year free ride or a 4 year free ride if you do the swap right after you go thru emissions :D

guess you can say "i told you so" in about a year and a half lol

[bob6364]

With the Saleen I just had my tuner give me 2 tunes...1 is performance only and the other is performance with everything turned back on...I just load that tune and go thru emissions...I love my flip chip :D

[ImpalaSlayer]

oh yeah Bob, put this down as another option for the accesory belt

060990 (napa number) 99 5/8th"

[bob6364]

Tell me what size upper and lower pulley you are using and your belt size

[burt ragio]

Terry Gorsuch is working on a new tensioner bracket that is just sex on wheels! It's not ready to sell yet, but he's putting it on his engine and it is slick.
That will be great. Looking at the belt tensioner bracket due to alienment mounted out far from the motor has always been my concern. Because of this the pressure on these three mounting points must be termendous. I would never want it to work it self loose at any given time. This is my dailly driver. I may be my concerned for no given reason.

[Zack]

That will be great. Looking at the belt tensioner bracket due to alienment mounted out far from the motor has always been my concern. Because of this the pressure on these three mounting points must be termendous. I would never want it to work it self loose at any given time. This is my dailly driver. I may be my concerned for no given reason.

You are definitely correct about being concerned for no given reason.

None of the 200+ Trilogy kits have a problem, what makes this any different?

[65DOHCStang]

Tell me what size upper and lower pulley you are using and your belt size

I'm using stock upper and stock size (7.4" I think) lower and the belt is Gates 080530 (53 1/2" I think). You have to grind off the stop on the tensioner to get it on (advice from Terry Gorsuch).

[ImpalaSlayer]

I'm using stock upper and stock size (7.4" I think) lower and the belt is Gates 080530 (53 1/2" I think). You have to grind off the stop on the tensioner to get it on (advice from Terry Gorsuch).

i wana say thats the size im using with my 3.2 upper and+ 2 lower. ill have to double check

[gortch]

Wow, I just went over this Thread, you guys have been busy! I would like to add some things.
1. On my brackets you shouldn't have to grind the Alt. I took that into account.
2. I used an F150 Alt. pulley (F5AZ-10344-A, Motorcraft GP-712) when I designed the bracket thinking it would be the same but it appears that it sets out from the Alt. about 3/16". So if you are having belt problems or belt noise that may be it.
3. I corrected the problem of having to grind the Alt. Bracket to clear the WP pulley on the later brackets I hope. If anyone is having the problem please let me know and I will change it some more.
4. I am almost done with the new bracket and now make adapters to go in the water ports to utilize 90 degree Rad. hose and a alum. crossover, Also adapters to utilize AN fittings and braded line for crossover. Will submit pic's soon

Gortch

[Zack]

4. I am almost done with the new bracket and now make adapters to go in the water ports to utilize 90 degree Rad. hose and a alum. crossover, Also adapters to utilize AN fittings and braded line for crossover. Will submit pic's soon

Gortch

This is what I was gonna do as my 'experiment' but Im glad you beat me to it.

Ill take the first set.

[ImpalaSlayer]

This is what I was gonna do as my 'experiment' but Im glad you beat me to it.

Ill take the first set.

line is back there dude. Terry told me about that a few weeks ago :D

[tjl006]

4. I am almost done with the new bracket and now make adapters to go in the water ports to utilize 90 degree Rad. hose and a alum. crossover, Also adapters to utilize AN fittings and braded line for crossover. Will submit pic's soon
Gortch
After two crossover tubes you tell me this:D

[ImpalaSlayer]

After two crossover tubes you tell me this:D

i want one of those sweet ass tensioner brackets!

[bob6364]

haha..I feel you pain...

[gortch]

Hey Zack! good to see you back.

Terry

[gortch]

I have a set done for my car but because of there being so many legs or stand offs and the adding of two idlers the welding has become a real problem, there just isn't enough room to get a tig in there and it is hotter than hell, has to be preheated to 450 degrees. So I came up with another method of boring the holes all the way through to a press fit and taper the end of the standoff and taper the hole on the front side weld and machine down. Welding is much better but a lot more machining. The bracket will be much stronger and look much cleaner.

The question I have for you guys is: On my bracket I set the drivers side idler in 1/2" just to stop the belt harmonics because I am not going to run high boost and HP. I can move the idler in any amount to get more belt wrap.

Any thoughts?

The adapters and crossover worked out well, I have a set made as a test had a bad piece of Alum. tube that had a coating on it so the weld didn't turn out but it is good enough for some initial pic's just have to get them taken and posted.

Terry

[ImpalaSlayer]

I have a set done for my car but because of there being so many legs or stand offs and the adding of two idlers the welding has become a real problem, there just isn't enough room to get a tig in there and it is hotter than hell, has to be preheated to 450 degrees. So I came up with another method of boring the holes all the way through to a press fit and taper the end of the standoff and taper the hole on the front side weld and machine down. Welding is much better but a lot more machining. The bracket will be much stronger and look much cleaner.

The question I have for you guys is: On my bracket I set the drivers side idler in 1/2" just to stop the belt harmonics because I am not going to run high boost and HP. I can move the idler in any amount to get more belt wrap.

Any thoughts?

The adapters and crossover worked out well, I have a set made as a test had a bad piece of Alum. tube that had a coating on it so the weld didn't turn out but it is good enough for some initial pic's just have to get them taken and posted.

Terry


Terry, what size idler are you using? they make different sized idlers. im really interested in that snount idler piece you have

[gortch]

The ones in the pic are 90mm.

[ImpalaSlayer]

The ones in the pic are 90mm.

i just bought a used 100mm. wonder how much more that would wrap.

[gortch]

10mm is a little under 1/2" so I would think it would move the belt over at best 3/16".
When making the bracket it is easy to position the idler over another 1/2" or what ever you would like.

[ImpalaSlayer]

10mm is a little under 1/2" so I would think it would move the belt over at best 3/16".
When making the bracket it is easy to position the idler over another 1/2" or what ever you would like.

i think it would easier to start with a smaller pulley and go up. when will these be available for sale?

[gortch]

Could do that, the question then becomes what size to start with and how much to push the belt in to start with. I would like to have a place to start with for the high HP high boost guys who have a concern about belt slip. Where I have mine set will be good for 400 to 500 6 to 8 lb boost guys.

I'll have the first done in about a week I just got the material and will cut it out tomorrow. Been fitting the legs using scrap to get the fitting right now we will see how it works putting it all togather.

[gortch]

Sorry, I won't know the price until we get the first one done.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Could do that, the question then becomes what size to start with and how much to push the belt in to start with. I would like to have a place to start with for the high HP high boost guys who have a concern about belt slip. Where I have mine set will be good for 400 to 500 6 to 8 lb boost guys.

I'll have the first done in about a week I just got the material and will cut it out tomorrow. Been fitting the legs using scrap to get the fitting right now we will see how it works putting it all togather.

let me know when its done and what you want for it! i think maybe moving it closer by about 1/2" would be good

[bob6364]

In the world of Modding the hardest question to answer is "is it done?"

[bob6364]

Oh-oh....seems the other site is getting their feathers in a bunch...better copy and paste this thread into your favorite Word like program before she gets wiped...

[ImpalaSlayer]

Oh-oh....seems the other site is getting their feathers in a bunch...better copy and paste this thread into your favorite Word like program before she gets wiped...

isnt it great? i was crackin up at that whole post.

[O's Fan Rich]

You guy's are funny.......

[bob6364]

You guy's are funny.......

If we can't help with information I guess we can atleast be comic relief :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[ImpalaSlayer]

ok well lets not get this messed up, lets keep it on track for what it is. screw the haters

[tjl006]

ok well lets not get this messed up, lets keep it on track for what it is. screw the haters
+1 Dave when it stops raining over her I want to get some pictures of the vacuum line routing

[ImpalaSlayer]

+1 Dave when it stops raining over her I want to get some pictures of the vacuum line routing

thats definitely good to have, was my biggest problem sorting it all out. Zack was getting annoyed when he walked me through that one :D

[swordfish]

If any one is interested Magnuson has a T for the upper radiator hose. My parts guy is working in getting us the part number for the pump harness and the T.
http://sn101w.snt101.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://65.55.85.7/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3dfb859445-f6f7-48a6-b68a-6bcdde9621b9.jpg%26ct%3daW1hZ2 UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26name%3dcGhvdG 8uanBn%26inline%3d1%26rfc%3d0% 26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid %253aB3426A3D-68D8-4585-A7D0-642F7BB9AC52&oneredir=1&ip=10.13.0.8&d=d3571&mf=0&a=01_9730c93fcd4617976cbc3ae56 5fe9f8842ac5eae9be6e955bb504e9 c60cc0058

[DOOM]

Do you guys still have cruise control with the eaton swap?

[ImpalaSlayer]

Do you guys still have cruise control with the eaton swap?

hellz yeah! i have everything but egr

[bob6364]

I had one of those egr's once...said my barain wasn't working correctly....:D

[swordfish]

I had one of those egr's once...said my barain wasn't working correctly....:D
Now we have medical proof!!!:lol:

[DOOM]

No egr on my car either.

[bob6364]

No egr on my car either.

Wait?!...Thought you had a trilogy?

[ImpalaSlayer]

Wait?!...Thought you had a trilogy?

he couldnt polish the cast iron so he took it off!

[cougar9150]

he couldnt polish the cast iron so he took it off!
He could have installed one of these instead.
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/KP-5061

[ImpalaSlayer]

He could have installed one of these instead.
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/KP-5061

hes prolly calling Chris now so ask how much to put it back on! :rofl:

[bob6364]

he couldnt polish the cast iron so he took it off!
So does the trilogy have an egr or not?

[ImpalaSlayer]

So does the trilogy have an egr or not?


yes it does. and a new tube to make it work

[Zack]

You are gonna need a new nut to hold the alternator on:
Unfortunately they only come in bags of 4 at about 3 bucks each:

N807805-S36B is the Ford #

Orings for the SC Water Outlet Tubes:
N802927S

[DOOM]

hes prolly calling Chris now so ask how much to put it back on! :rofl:

EGR is already chromed. :D :coolman:

[CBT]

EGR is already chromed. :D :coolman:
Shocker, lol.

[Zack]

The chrome will burn off in due time, trust me!

[ImpalaSlayer]

EGR is already chromed. :D :coolman:

you had i chromed then took it off?:confused:

[DOOM]

you had i chromed then took it off?:confused:

Still on there davey.
Take a closer look next time. ;)

[ImpalaSlayer]

Still on there davey.
Take a closer look next time. ;)

LOL! you just said you have no egr? what you smoking over there big guy :pimp:

[DOOM]

LOL! you just said you have no egr? what you smoking over there big guy :pimp:

I said its not hooked up!
EGR valve is still on the car!
Unless you guys are talking about something else. :confused:

[ImpalaSlayer]

I said its not hooked up!
EGR valve is still on the car!
Unless you guys are talking about something else. :confused:

why dont you take that junker off?

[DOOM]

Just told you why! :D

[jdenning002]

Should I obtain new gaskets for the lower intake to heads, intake to blower, etc???

If so, which ones are best?

[FordNut]

Probably not needed. I'm thinking about trying these out...

http://velocityturbosystems.com/shopping/product_info.php?cPath=71&products_id=444&osCsid=930oekgecmt78n1inimnuma t67

Sound theory behind it, but not sure how much real difference it would make. I wouldn't pull mine apart specifically to try them, but next time it's apart I might put some of these in.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Probably not needed. I'm thinking about trying these out...

http://velocityturbosystems.com/shopping/product_info.php?cPath=71&products_id=444&osCsid=930oekgecmt78n1inimnuma t67

Sound theory behind it, but not sure how much real difference it would make. I wouldn't pull mine apart specifically to try them, but next time it's apart I might put some of these in.

so basically if i understand that right, those gaskets stop heat from transferring from one part to another?

[tjl006]

If you feel you need new gaskets oe ford are most likley the best. Most of the ford gaskets are so good though that they can be reused.

[Zack]

so basically if i understand that right, those gaskets stop heat from transferring from one part to another?

Snake oil IMHO.

Its been soo long since a vendor has come up with a new product for a Cobra, pretty much anything new at this point will seem good to people.

[jdenning002]

so oem MM ones are fine with the cobra lower intake?

[tjl006]

Ir your talking about the ones between the lower intake and cylinder heads then yes the marauder ones work and can be reused

[Zack]

so oem MM ones are fine with the cobra lower intake?

Yes they are

[ImpalaSlayer]

Snake oil IMHO.

Its been soo long since a vendor has come up with a new product for a Cobra, pretty much anything new at this point will seem good to people.

yeah didnt seem very likely

[FordNut]

Snake oil IMHO.

Its been soo long since a vendor has come up with a new product for a Cobra, pretty much anything new at this point will seem good to people.

Maybe. Some folks don't think there is any benefit to ceramic coating either.

[jdenning002]

Thanks again to everyone contributing here!

I am learning as we go and I am very excited about my eaton conversion.

I checked out the "other" site, absolutely hilarious!!! Who cares how someone else spends their free time and what they do to their car... I guess if I spent $7K on a trilogy I'd hop on that boat too.

I had a paxton kit from DR, it was great but there is nothing like a roots style blower and this is much more fun and affordable.

[jdenning002]

Any updates on the crossover tube mod? This is going to be the one weak spot...

How about the adaptors used in the evenflow kit (on the rear of the heads)? Couldnt they be used on the front of the heads with with connectors & rubber hose as well???

[bob6364]

I would update this post but i am way to drunk to do anything correctly......

[Big Black Beast]

I would update this post but i am way to drunk to do anything correctly......
Hell, I can't do anything correctly even when I'm sober.
Anything worth doing is worth doing drunk!:rolleyes:

[Vortech347]

Ditto on the update. How are you handling the intercooler lines? using OEM part numbers or just routing your own standard hose?

[Zack]

Ditto on the update. How are you handling the intercooler lines? using OEM part numbers or just routing your own standard hose?

Just heater hose.

As for the lower port on the Intercooler outlet, you will need a 5/8" hose with a 90 degree angle molded into it.

This is another thing i find at junkyards....premolded hoses for such a need.

[jdenning002]

2 Questions:

-Where is the best source ( lowest price) to order the oem pullies, tensioner, etc. that cannot be found used?

-Where can I find the adaptors that are in the even flow cooling kit that go into the rear of the heads?? I want to buy (4) and make my own kit and make a front crossover tube/hose...

[Zack]

Found this on Ebay today... Awesome price for new components and depending on the deals you find used, you would be within 20-40 dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-RACING-LIGHTNING-90MM-90-MM-MASS-AIR-METER-MAF-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZite m2c535338caQQitemZ190376523978 QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

[justbob]

I seen that a couple days ago myself!

[Zack]

2 Questions:

-Where is the best source ( lowest price) to order the oem pullies, tensioner, etc. that cannot be found used?

-Where can I find the adaptors that are in the even flow cooling kit that go into the rear of the heads?? I want to buy (4) and make my own kit and make a front crossover tube/hose...

Tousley Ford for new Parts.

Call evenflow.

[jdenning002]

ok, thanks.

Does Tousley Ford offer a discont on the new parts? Who should I speak to?

I found a guy selling the 90MM Cobra/Lightning maf for 79.95 new online, he lists 10 for sale... ebay and he has a website...

Any update on the coolant crossover design idea that Zack and Terry were talking about??

I can't find any info to contact EvenFlow.... a website.. nothing...

[musclemerc]

ok, thanks.

Does Tousley Ford offer a discont on the new parts? Who should I speak to?

I found a guy selling the 90MM Cobra/Lightning maf for 79.95 new online, he lists 10 for sale... ebay and he has a website...

Any update on the coolant crossover design idea that Zack and Terry were talking about??

I can't find any info to contact EvenFlow.... a website.. nothing...

I thought I sent you there info. Here you go: http://www.evenflowcooling.com/home.html
I know it will work if the opening was larger. 3/4" isn't much for a main cooling feed.... Maybe they could make one custom for your application :confused:

[FordNut]

ok, thanks.

Does Tousley Ford offer a discont on the new parts? Who should I speak to?

I found a guy selling the 90MM Cobra/Lightning maf for 79.95 new online, he lists 10 for sale... ebay and he has a website...

Any update on the coolant crossover design idea that Zack and Terry were talking about??

I can't find any info to contact EvenFlow.... a website.. nothing...

A quick google search turned up this:

http://www.evenflowcooling.com/

[jdenning002]

thanks guys... my google must be retarded. I tried.

[justbob]

I found a guy selling the 90MM Cobra/Lightning maf for 79.95 new online, he lists 10 for sale... ebay and he has a website...

But that doesn't include the adapter or air filter.

[cougar9150]

Now how beneficial is the evenflow kit if you already have the rear head cooling kit installed (used to be sold by Reinhart)? Just wondering if I should add it to my to do list or not.

Also wondering if I get the kit for the MM will it be transferable to the Cobra lower when I start my Eaton swap?

[Zack]

Now how beneficial is the evenflow kit if you already have the rear head cooling kit installed (used to be sold by Reinhart)? Just wondering if I should add it to my to do list or not.

Also wondering if I get the kit for the MM will it be transferable to the Cobra lower when I start my Eaton swap?

If you already have the rear cooling kit, you need not do anything else.

[cougar9150]

If you already have the rear cooling kit, you need not do anything else.
Sweet, Thanks Zack.

[jdenning002]

so how about the front coolant crossover tube?? any other options??

[ImpalaSlayer]

so how about the front coolant crossover tube?? any other options??

cut and weld as necessary, or rig up a ghetto pos out of an even flow kit

[Zack]

cut and weld as necessary, or rig up a ghetto pos out of an even flow kit

Didnt you hear? Its ghetto to cut and weld. Using your brain is frowned upon when working on your Marauder. :laugh:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Didnt you hear? Its ghetto to cut and weld. Using your brain is frowned upon when working on your Marauder. :laugh:

shut up, you dont have any thoughts anyway :D

[swordfish]

I have a question about the mafia I checked out Diablo and they offer 3 or 4 them. which one do we need? or what is the best one for or cars?
Thanks!
http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=4

[Zack]

F7373 or F7383 depending on what length you want.

[bawazir]

what is that ?

[Zack]

what is that ?

I have one for you already.

[bawazir]

ding ding ding ding

[Zack]

ding ding ding ding

Fries are done. :D

[Vortech347]

Is a Mafia required? I didnt' think it would be.

[Zack]

Is a Mafia required? I didnt' think it would be.

Some Lightning MAF's peg low, some peg high.
I know that sounds odd but its true.

[bob6364]

Ok...I will be doing some more updating on this soon...I have been out of my mind in pain from a rotater cuff injury to my right shoulder and i'm right handed.
Dumb tech tryed to stuff me into one of those little tube MRI machines and bruised me up pretty good,and I don't bruise easily,lol,its been a busy 2 weeks...

[bob6364]

We need a better name for this thread ,its become a build thread more then a parts thread any suggestions?

[bawazir]

Bob you should be doing less posting and more doing, post pic's while doing your eaton swap, I think people like to see new pictuers

[bob6364]

unfortunatly my right arm won't lift much more then my right arm at the moment bud.....

[DOOM]

unfortunatly my right arm won't lift much more

That's what she said!!! :banana2:

[bob6364]

That's what she said!!! :banana2:

uuWxoFSd_58

[jdenning002]

Please find the part number...thats a nice find

Does anyone have the part number for this IC Pump pigtail w/ relay & harness???

Thanks!

[jdenning002]

Not sure if it helps but I bought the whole harness for 5 bucks more then ford wanted for the plug. I can get the part # when I get home tonite.

Ford Magnuson Lightning Cobra Intercooler Pump Harness

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!BlFiIv!BWk~$(KGrHqIH-CQEtjf))(nLBL,L2pHv,w~~_12.JPG








intercooler water pump wire harness. Complete it includes fuse, relay and pump connector.
This harness is used in Magnuson supercharger kits which utilizes a Bosch pump.
The pump is used on supercharged Ford Lightning and Cobra Mustangs.




Does anyone have the part number for this IC Pump pigtail w/ relay & harness???

Thanks!

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[swordfish]

Does anyone have the part number for this IC Pump pigtail w/ relay & harness???

Thanks!


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/misc/progress.gif

The guy that got it for me is trying to get a part number. It came from Magnuson. I'll call him tonite and see if he found it.

[swordfish]

Does anyone have the part number for this IC Pump pigtail w/ relay & harness???

Thanks!


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I have the info! (805) 289-0044 - Phone part #82-55-003 list 38.00

[jdenning002]

I have the info! (805) 289-0044 - Phone part #82-55-003 list 38.00


......Thanks!

[jdenning002]

......Thanks!

I called that phone number, that part number is no good and the guy tried to look it up and after 15 minutes said they don't offer such an item and to call FORD to buy the pigtail....

????

[burt ragio]

Found this on Ebay today... Awesome price for new components and depending on the deals you find used, you would be within 20-40 dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-RACING-LIGHTNING-90MM-90-MM-MASS-AIR-METER-MAF-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZite m2c535338caQQitemZ190376523978 QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

What length filter should I order ?

[Zack]

What length filter should I order ?

The 9" is a sure fit...12" is iffy.


^^^^^^^^^^^^

..and thats what she said. :banana2::banana2::banana2:

AND BTW... I offered them $140 shipped and got it.

[Vortech347]

Just build your own harness. The pig tail is a standard EV1 fuel injector plug. Its what I did for our 03' swap.

[swordfish]

I called that phone number, that part number is no good and the guy tried to look it up and after 15 minutes said they don't offer such an item and to call FORD to buy the pigtail....

????
Call (805) 642-8833 ask for TIM (sales) he knows what we want. the complete # is 82-55-80-003

[Zack]

Stock Eaton 3.6 Upper with 2 lb lower = 25080537 Belt from NAPA

I also didnt drill/tap the lower manifold for the IAT sensor. I was able to drill/tap the existing IAT2 hole in the Eaton itself and put it there. Pics this week.

Also, the best fitting accessory belt (with Terry's brackets) is 25060988 from NAPA