group 58 battery install.

[ImpalaSlayer]

well some may know when i did my eaton swap i moved the battery to the drivers side. in order to do that i had to delete the washer fluid bottle which i didnt really like but it worked for the time being. so today i installed a group 58 battery in the car and a fox body tray. this allowed me to put the fluid bottle back in.

here is the way it was set up before with stock battery and modified tray
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_0909.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1165.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1164.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1163.jpg

installation of the fox tray was pretty easy all i did was grind off the material from the bottom onf the tray, drill 2 holes and bolted it to the header panel.

size comparison
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1166.jpg

tray installed
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1171.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1168.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1170.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1169.jpg

and one final shot with the battery in place

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1173.jpg

yay! now i can haz wiper fluid!

[babbage]

looks good - how much CCA?

[ImpalaSlayer]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1175.jpg

[Phrog_gunner]

So that's like 300 CCA less than stock?

[ImpalaSlayer]

So that's like 300 CCA less than stock?

stock is 650 i believe, i didnt look at it when i pulled it out. all i can tell you is it fired right up after sitting for 3 weeks.

[B.C. Bake]

I whent with the Optima red. CA 910... CCA720.

[ImpalaSlayer]

I whent with the Optima red. CA 910... CCA720.
nice, ill have to remember that next time

[massacre]

Nice job, Dave.
But I have to ask-why not in the trunk?

[ImpalaSlayer]

Nice job, Dave.
But I have to ask-why not in the trunk?

i really dont want to put it there for 2 reasons

1 is i like it to look factory when you open the hood and 2, is that i really dont want to run wires to the trunk.

[musclemerc]

Very nice job Dave! The Red top Optima is a definate plus for the future. +1 for not putting it in the trunk!

[massacre]

+1 for not putting it in the trunk!

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?

[bawazir]

nice !

[ImpalaSlayer]

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?

nope, few people have done it but i prefer to have it look factory as possible

[CBT]

nope, few people have done it but i prefer to have it look factory as possible

Win, looks nice:beer:

[RR|Suki]

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?

Not at all, it's a pretty simple operation.

[4play]

if you deleted your washer fluid do you think your car will still pass inspection?

[ImpalaSlayer]

if you deleted your washer fluid do you think your car will still pass inspection?


ummm yes? :rolleyes:

[musclemerc]

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?

Not a problem just prefrence i guess.

[FordNut]

To be track legal a trunk mount requires an external shutoff/disconnect switch.

[DOOM]

i didnt look at it when i pulled it out. All i can tell you is it fired right up after sitting for 3 weeks.

thats what she said!!!

[CBT]

thats what she said!!!

ka-pow!!!!

[-Matt-]

Lookin good davey! Im going to mount my battery in the trunk because im going to mount the meth tank up front :D:D

[ImpalaSlayer]

Lookin good davey! Im going to mount my battery in the trunk because im going to mount the meth tank up front :D:D

move air compressor to where i did and put under battery? will fit?

[Phrog_gunner]

Lookin good davey! Im going to mount my battery in the trunk because im going to mount the meth tank up front :D:D

Don't think just caused you changed your nn-name, that we are going to stop cc-calling you mm-matt.

[-Matt-]

Don't think just caused you changed your nn-name, that we are going to stop cc-calling you mm-matt.


Ah, you caught me

[-Matt-]

move air compressor to where i did and put under battery? will fit?


I wanna do a meth tank like this:
(unless thats for race gas?)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/82GTand03mach001.jpg
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/82GTand03mach001.jpg)

[ImpalaSlayer]

I wanna do a meth tank like this:
(unless thats for race gas?)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/82GTand03mach001.jpg
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/82GTand03mach001.jpg)
your talking about the black box>? im pretty sure thats the res for the SC, not a meth tank. its def not race gas lol

[-Matt-]

your talking about the black box>? im pretty sure thats the res for the SC, not a meth tank. its def not race gas lol


Yeah the black box... well if thats his res then thats cool and all but i can do something like that for a meth tank too :cool4:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Yeah the black box... well if thats his res then thats cool and all but i can do something like that for a meth tank too :cool4:

the hell you need meth for anyway?

[-Matt-]

the hell you need meth for anyway?

To trip on, duh.....


Why not? Insurance?

[ImpalaSlayer]

To trip on, duh.....


Why not? Insurance?

haz good tune should haz no problem :dunno:

im not a meth expert

[-Matt-]

Good tune w/o meth, then add meth for insurance = ftw

[ImpalaSlayer]

Good tune w/o meth, then add meth for insurance = ftw
meh, not want extra ****

[-Matt-]

why not? goodies are fun!!

[ImpalaSlayer]

why not? goodies are fun!!

more things to break. simple= better

[-Matt-]

its not needed ****, just for the track or hot texas days

[ImpalaSlayer]

its not needed ****, just for the track or hot texas days

shoulda stayed in cam :P

[-Matt-]

f that crime infested place

[LANDY]

nice jod Dave, it looks like it was like that from factory

[Zack]

Thats a beauty!

[CBT]

Thats a beauty!

That's what me and she said. Add this tray to list of eaton swap parts??

[ImpalaSlayer]

That's what me and she said. Add this tray to list of eaton swap parts??

if you want to keep the washer fluid bottle then yes!

[massacre]

i prefer to have it look factory as possible

I just find this ^^^ funny because you have a giant blower on top of the engine which will immediately tip everyone off that it is not stock...lol.
But I know what you're saying, I'm in the same boat(wanting it to look factory).

[bob6364]

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?

Yup...once you do it it opens up a whole can of worms....just the least of are

hold downs
battery box
and the one that make most people shutter the dreaded EXTERIOR shut off switch..EEEEEEEEK:eek::eek::ee k::eek::eek:

[bob6364]

Lookin good davey! Im going to mount my battery in the trunk because im going to mount the meth tank up front :D:D

Matt do what I did with my first meth install use a light meth tune with 30% meth or windshield washer fluid and tap the windshield washer bottle for the meth....then you can wash you windows ans spray on those hot days for safety :D:D

[RR|Suki]

Yup...once you do it it opens up a whole can of worms....just the least of are

hold downs
battery box
and the one that make most people shutter the dreaded EXTERIOR shut off switch..EEEEEEEEK:eek::eek::ee k::eek::eek:

lol, how is any of that a can of worms? The battery box is a simple thing, and the good ones have hold downs that come with them. My battery has been in the trunk since 03. Unless you are going fast enough to need a cage I wonder what the chances are that the tech guy would tell you to get a cut off. . . In my case I've been to 3 different tracks over the years, some more times than others, never been an issue. PS running a cut off really isn't a big deal.

[FordNut]

lol, how is any of that a can of worms? The battery box is a simple thing, and the good ones have hold downs that come with them. My battery has been in the trunk since 03. Unless you are going fast enough to need a cage I wonder what the chances are that the tech guy would tell you to get a cut off. . . In my case I've been to 3 different tracks over the years, some more times than others, never been an issue. PS running a cut off really isn't a big deal.

If you go to Atlanta for any of the SSHS events they will check that you have a shutoff switch. It can't just cut battery power, it also has to kill the engine.

[RR|Suki]

If you go to Atlanta for any of the SSHS events they will check that you have a shutoff switch. It can't just cut battery power, it also has to kill the engine.

Still not a big deal to run the system to do that. Wouldn't even have to be a bother in day to day driving. Could remove the pass tail light when race time comes and run the rod right through there. Remove rod, replace light, go home.

[bob6364]

lol, how is any of that a can of worms? The battery box is a simple thing, and the good ones have hold downs that come with them. My battery has been in the trunk since 03. Unless you are going fast enough to need a cage I wonder what the chances are that the tech guy would tell you to get a cut off. . . In my case I've been to 3 different tracks over the years, some more times than others, never been an issue. PS running a cut off really isn't a big deal.

Well around here you won't race with a battery in the trunk without a cut off,which means drilling a hole for a shut off,i haven't any MM.net members in New England that would be willing to do that. I look at the majority of the pics on here and only find people making there cars go faster without sacrificing the look of the car.

[RR|Suki]

Well around here you won't race with a battery in the trunk without a cut off,which means drilling a hole for a shut off,i haven't any MM.net members in New England that would be willing to do that. I look at the majority of the pics on here and only find people making there cars go faster without sacrificing the look of the car.

Where do you have to drill a hole? Run the rod out the tail light hole... the rod threads on and off the cut off in seconds, and it takes maybe 2 minutes to remove a tail lamp :confused:

[FordNut]

Where do you have to drill a hole? Run the rod out the tail light hole... the rod threads on and off the cut off in seconds, and it takes maybe 2 minutes to remove a tail lamp :confused:

Some tracks require you to have functional brake/tail lights, especially if you're running at night (most T&T sessions are at night). So just removing the light isn't an option.

[RR|Suki]

Some tracks require you to have functional brake/tail lights, especially if you're running at night (most T&T sessions are at night). So just removing the light isn't an option.

Still not a problem: junk yard cv tail lamp + 1/2" hole saw problem solved

[bob6364]

Ok ...so you drive 2 hours to your favorite drag stip and oh-oh you forgot your drilled taillight or oh no where the rod for the cut off go...oh yeah i took everything out of the trunk last week to go get parts,not to mention this track wants the shut off to turn the car off not just disconnect the battery...beginning to sound like a little can of worms to me?

[-Matt-]

Some tracks require you to have functional brake/tail lights, especially if you're running at night (most T&T sessions are at night). So just removing the light isn't an option.


Only one light required

[RR|Suki]

Ok ...so you drive 2 hours to your favorite drag stip and oh-oh you forgot your drilled taillight or oh no where the rod for the cut off go...oh yeah i took everything out of the trunk last week to go get parts,not to mention this track wants the shut off to turn the car off not just disconnect the battery...beginning to sound like a little can of worms to me?

If you go to the track without the stuff you need to race then that is your business. That's like going to the track without your helmet, simply silly. If you need x,y,z thing to run at the track, take 30 seconds and make sure you have it all before you drive 2 hours :lol:
PS when you do the install properly the engine cuts when the shut off is pulled.

[bob6364]

If you go to the track without the stuff you need to race then that is your business. That's like going to the track without your helmet, simply silly. If you need x,y,z thing to run at the track, take 30 seconds and make sure you have it all before you drive 2 hours :lol:
PS when you do the install properly the engine cuts when the shut off is pulled.

ummm right ....everyone goes to the track with everything they need all the time...truer words couldn't be spoken by a NOOB...if you had alot of track time you woulds not say such black and white things...ah-oh I said black and white...quick go get me banished....

[RR|Suki]

ummm right ....everyone goes to the track with everything they need all the time...truer words couldn't be spoken by a NOOB...if you had alot of track time you woulds not say such black and white things...ah-oh I said black and white...quick go get me banished....

lol what are you even talking about? If you can't remember to take your stuff to a track 2 hours away that's your problem. . . that doesn't make something a "can of worms", that's a personal problem not an equipment problem.
Not forgetting my stuff at home makes me a noob? Try again, I've been racing cars since I was 14. Funny how quick you have to resort to off topic attacks because your "can of worms" theory has no merit. Try harder next time.

[bob6364]

lol what are you even talking about? If you can't remember to take your stuff to a track 2 hours away that's your problem. . . that doesn't make something a "can of worms", that's a personal problem not an equipment problem.
Not forgetting my stuff at home makes me a noob? Try again, I've been racing cars since I was 14. Funny how quick you have to resort to off topic attacks because your "can of worms" theory has no merit. Try harder next time.

haha....Noob.

[magindat]

Wow.
Is there some type of problem with trunk-mounted batteries in the Panthers that I am not aware of?
Have to add a cut off switch for racing to pass tech.
More points of failure.

[-Matt-]

Have to add a cut off switch for racing to pass tech.
More points of failure.


More points of failure?

[bob6364]

More points of failure?

I think what he means is just another item to go wrong at the track....when you race long enough and often enough you find that Murphy rules the track...Murphy can make or break your entire day...

[-Matt-]

I think what he means is just another item to go wrong at the track....when you race long enough and often enough you find that Murphy rules the track...Murphy can make or break your entire day...


Nothing more then it mounted under your hood.... no extra connections needed.

[FordNut]

Nothing more then it mounted under your hood.... no extra connections needed.

How do you figure that?

I count at least 4 additional or new electrical connections, more like 6 or 8.

[-Matt-]

How do you figure that?

I count at least 4 additional or new electrical connections, more like 6 or 8.


Name em....

[massacre]

:popcorn:
Spare taillight idea FTW!

[RR|Suki]

:popcorn:
Spare taillight idea FTW!

Credit to Rich for that one (pretty sure it was him at least, saw it 2 or so years ago)