This pissed wonder boy off

[Bradley G]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60378
oops wrong button
this one: http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/forums/showthread.php?p=120895#post12 0895

[Ms. Denmark]

OK I'll say it.........."Huh?" :confused: Wonder boy....wonderboy...:dunno:

[bob6364]

+1 Ms Denmark

[Bradley G]

sorry, posted the wrong thread first :stupid:

[Pops]

So Brad let me ask you a question about American Hot Rodding. Has the Hot Rodding community always looked for ways to do it themselves and save money? That has been the staple of car mods for a long time. The people who have done it have helped make some great strides in performance and ideas that have moved the whole process forward. So what is your problem with this? Zack did not start the thread or list.

[musclemerc]

I saw it this morning on MCM and just wondered whats the problem? I think Bawazir's MM is the one referred to in the post. Either way to each their own Bro.

[bob6364]

Its funny how they go right after Zack in the thread and Zack isn't even making the brackets....guess he's just the easy target.

[Big Black Beast]

I plan on going with the Trilogy someday, just because my car is my daily driver and I can't have it sitting in a garage for weeks while I wait for parts and tinker w/ stuff to make it work. Whatever I do is pretty much gonna have to be done in a weekend, outside. Plus, I prefer to not have to relocate the battery.
That said, $6000 is alot of money, and anybody who has the time, energy, and a place to do something less expensive is fine by me. Nobody is going to get rich selling anything for these cars, there aren't enough of them. I wish there was a less expensive alternative, but there isn't, so "making it work" is the only other option.

[-Matt-]

Cant we all just be friends?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d170/Howmanygritz/CantWeAllJustGetAlong.jpg

[FordNut]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60378
oops wrong button
this one: http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/forums/showthread.php?p=120895#post12 0895


So you wanted to stir up something? Why else would you start that thread? Drama queen.

[Bradley G]

my issue Pops is that none of this would be possible with out all the hard work & $$$ that went into the R&D to make the first one.

I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
Ask your self, at what risk?
What if someone had the same problem I had with my Trilogy?
I let the idler bearing problem go, till the pulley gnarled the alt. bracket.
I call Jerry Barnes and he sends me a new one.
If I have a home made Eaton swap, who is going to get me parts?
How long till ten guys want to buy in, for parts to be made?




So Brad let me ask you a question about American Hot Rodding. Has the Hot Rodding community always looked for ways to do it themselves and save money? That has been the staple of car mods for a long time. The people who have done it have helped make some great strides in performance and ideas that have moved the whole process forward. So what is your problem with this? Zack did not start the thread or list.

[Pops]

Brad no matter what someone designs someonw will figure out a way around it. If you build the Eaton with parts and pieces you run the risk you are talking about. I do not think anyone who is doing the kit thinks they are building a Trilogy which is a good SC. The younger the crowd gets here the less they can afford to spend on mods and this is what that thread is about.

As far as your personal war you need to take it off the board!

[Bradley G]

PM sent...
So you wanted to stir up something? Why else would you start that thread? Drama queen.

[musclemerc]

my issue Pops is that none of this would be possible with out all the hard work & $$$ that went into the R&D to make the first one.

I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
Ask your self, at what risk?
What if someone had the same problem I had with my Trilogy?
I let the idler bearing problem go, till the pulley gnarled the alt. bracket.
I call Jerry Barnes and he sends me a new one.
If I have a home made Eaton swap, who is going to get me parts?
How long till ten guys want to buy in, for parts to be made?
If the PM I received from Zack is any indication of his level of involvement, Pm me and I'll forward it to you

AHHHH! I get it. So your looking out for us?

[FordNut]

my issue Pops is that none of this would be possible with out all the hard work & $$$ that went into the R&D to make the first one.

I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
Ask your self, at what risk?
What if someone had the same problem I had with my Trilogy?
I let the idler bearing problem go, till the pulley gnarled the alt. bracket.
I call Jerry Barnes and he sends me a new one.
If I have a home made Eaton swap, who is going to get me parts?
How long till ten guys want to buy in, for parts to be made?

Carry out your logic and reasoning, we shouldn't be able to go get parts at NAPA, AutoZone, Advance, Pep Boys, etc. We should always have to get everything at the dealer. Is that what you do?

[Pops]

my issue Pops is that none of this would be possible with out all the hard work & $$$ that went into the R&D to make the first one.

I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
Ask your self, at what risk?
What if someone had the same problem I had with my Trilogy?
I let the idler bearing problem go, till the pulley gnarled the alt. bracket.
I call Jerry Barnes and he sends me a new one.
If I have a home made Eaton swap, who is going to get me parts?
How long till ten guys want to buy in, for parts to be made?

How many guys have managed to put the Eaton, Vortech or any other super charger on cars they were not designed for Brad. This is not just happening on Marauders. Guess I am wrong for putting a Marauder power plant in my GM cause Ford put one in the Marauder.:)

[-Matt-]

lol this thread is stupid, i couldnt see right off the bat that it was a personal grief, but now that thats clear then this thread should be deleted. Who cares what people do to their cars? In fact its fun to watch them do r&d and even though i dont want the eaton on my car, i still follow the threads excitedly to see whats going on.


Your trilogy is great, heres your cookie.

Ib4tl

[bob6364]

Carry out your logic and reasoning, we shouldn't be able to go get parts at NAPA, AutoZone, Advance, Pep Boys, etc. We should always have to get everything at the dealer. Is that what you do?

LOL...to funny...go Brian... its your birthday:banana2:...its your birthday...:banana2:

[Bradley G]

The bearing was available through the FLAPS but I needed the bracket.
If I feel the aftermarket part is not as good as the factory part, I sure will spend more at the dealer.
The only way I'm going FLAPS is for maintenence: Batteries, chemicals, filters, or if the dealers are closed.
Carry out your logic and reasoning, we shouldn't be able to go get parts at NAPA, AutoZone, Advance, Pep Boys, etc. We should always have to get everything at the dealer. Is that what you do?

[CBT]

..........
18870

[Phrog_gunner]

Wasn't Henry Ford's vision to create a cheaper car so that more people could afford them?

[FordNut]

Kinda clueless about the whole thing, eh...


my issue Pops is that none of this would be possible with out all the hard work & $$$ that went into the R&D to make the first one.

I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY.
Ask your self, at what risk?
What if someone had the same problem I had with my Trilogy?
I let the idler bearing problem go, till the pulley gnarled the alt. bracket.
I call Jerry Barnes and he sends me a new one.
If I have a home made Eaton swap, who is going to get me parts?

First, it was pretty ignorant to let it go until the bracket was damaged.
Second, the damaged bracket would probably still work if you had a replacement idler.
Third, if you use standard over-the-counter parts like the Eaton swap, you can get replacement parts anywhere instead of having to wait for a custom/unique/sole sourced part (Trilogy idler) to be shipped to you.
Fourth, the whole point of the Eaton conversion is that it can be done by gearheads, hence the lack of directions. If you can't figure out how to do the conversion and maintain it, you ought to go with a different setup.


How long till ten guys want to buy in, for parts to be made?

That's old news. The volume buy was for a machine shop to make the brackets at a reasonable price. Another supplier is making them onesy-twosey so there is no need for a bulk purchase.

There are at least 3 different setups for this conversion, look at the Mach1 forums.

[Phrog_gunner]

So according to the prevailing logic, I guess we all have to turn in our computers because they were based off of the original computer that took up a whole floor? Everyone that has used the technology that the Wright brothers developed is in violation of the law??

[Pops]

So according to the prevailing logic, I guess we all have to turn in our computers because they were based off of the original computer that took up a whole floor? Everyone that has used the technology that the Wright brothers developed is in violation of the law?? No more paper airplanes!:shake:

[Phrog_gunner]

No more paper airplanes!:shake:

Let's just hope the guy who first made fire doesn't get wind of this. No more cookouts. :(

[Pops]

:lol: :bows: :bigcry: :lol:

[-Matt-]

http://archive.perfectduluthday.com/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

[Phrog_gunner]

http://archive.perfectduluthday.com/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

Maybe the horse is sleeping and he's just trying to wake it up? As long as that guy doesn't try to give it CPR, cause then the guy who did it first could sue him.

[-Matt-]

http://me.abelcheung.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/beating_dead_horse.gif

[MERCMAN]

Are generic drugs the same as name brand drugs?

Brand name drugs and their generics are IDENTICAL in terms of active ingredients. The generic pills may look different (because they are made by a different company) but inside is exactly the same active ingredient, which works in exactly the same way.

The only difference between brand name drugs and generic drugs is that generics are always much less expensive. Savings of up to 80% can be made by purchasing generic drugs instead of namebrand medication.

All pharmaceuticals are simple recipes of common chemical raw ingredients

[a_d_a_m]

After reading that thread over at MCM, I'm reminded that I've often had the feeling that the non-original Marauder owners (aka the folks like me, who purchased used) are viewed as second-class citizens by some of the original owners. Hell, I've seen that same condescending attitude in person by some of the original Marauderer's I've met over the past couple years, even before I bought mine.

Flashback to 2002, when my car was being built:
-I was working on my B.A. and making less than 10k/yr.
-I was driving a POS Chrysler LeBaron.
-I was living with my mom.

I've always felt like I had to justify or apologize for those things. But I had other priorities, like getting a decent job, buying a house, etc. The Marauder was on the 'bucket list' and I was able to cross it off, just not the same way "they" did. Just because some of us came late to the game and paid less for our cars because they were used, or maybe we don't use the same power adders they do, doesn't mean we necessarily like our cars any less than "they" do...

So ultimately, what my long-winded post is trying to get around to, is that I wanted to second what Pops said, as this was always my understanding of kar kulture:

Has the Hot Rodding community always looked for ways to do it themselves and save money? That has been the staple of car mods for a long time. The people who have done it have helped make some great strides in performance and ideas that have moved the whole process forward. So what is your problem with this?
:beer:
I, for one, am glad that we still have some folks around who are looking at new and creative ideas for Marauder owners.

[CBT]

True, true. Nice post :beer: Not everyone can get along, it's just a sad fact of life.



After reading that thread over at MCM, I'm reminded that I've often had the feeling that the non-original Marauder owners (aka the folks like me, who purchased used) are viewed as second-class citizens by some of the original owners. Hell, I've seen that same condescending attitude in person by some of the original Marauderer's I've met over the past couple years, even before I bought mine.

Flashback to 2002, when my car was being built:
-I was working on my B.A. and making less than 10k/yr.
-I was driving a POS Chrysler LeBaron.
-I was living with my mom.

I've always felt like I had to justify or apologize for those things. But I had other priorities, like getting a decent job, buying a house, etc. The Marauder was on the 'bucket list' and I was able to cross it off, just not the same way "they" did. Just because some of us came late to the game and paid less for our cars because they were used, or maybe we don't use the same power adders they do, doesn't mean we necessarily like our cars any less than "they" do...

So ultimately, what my long-winded post is trying to get around to, is that I wanted to second what Pops said, as this was always my understanding of kar kulture:

:beer:
I, for one, am glad that we still have some folks around who are looking at new and creative ideas for Marauder owners.

[-Matt-]

Bah! new? who needs new? Im bringing back the old school. Kenny Brown baby!!

[bob6364]

After reading that thread over at MCM, I'm reminded that I've often had the feeling that the non-original Marauder owners (aka the folks like me, who purchased used) are viewed as second-class citizens by some of the original owners. Hell, I've seen that same condescending attitude in person by some of the original Marauderer's I've met over the past couple years, even before I bought mine.

Flashback to 2002, when my car was being built:
-I was working on my B.A. and making less than 10k/yr.
-I was driving a POS Chrysler LeBaron.
-I was living with my mom.

I've always felt like I had to justify or apologize for those things. But I had other priorities, like getting a decent job, buying a house, etc. The Marauder was on the 'bucket list' and I was able to cross it off, just not the same way "they" did. Just because some of us came late to the game and paid less for our cars because they were used, or maybe we don't use the same power adders they do, doesn't mean we necessarily like our cars any less than "they" do...

So ultimately, what my long-winded post is trying to get around to, is that I wanted to second what Pops said, as this was always my understanding of kar kulture:

:beer:
I, for one, am glad that we still have some folks around who are looking at new and creative ideas for Marauder owners.

I understand we're you are coming from completely,there are all levels of income and knowledge in the car culture,some of my friends just laugh when I out spend them 10 to 1 on my cars and I look on in envy when some of the folks on here and people I know personaly out spnd me 10 to 1 on their cars,the diference between my core group and alot of the folks that are posting in that thread on the other site is anyone of us will try our best to help out another car person
The last time I raced was a test and tune on a friday night up in epping NH about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me...didn't you know I had the ONLY set of jumper cables there...I think those jumpers went around the pits twice that night and when I got back from my last run there they where neatly coiled up on top of my spare tire and misc things from my trunk.I love racing the folks who race alot are the best...no matter what brand they drive...

[fordfrk347]

I want that KB setup also.

[Pops]

I understand we're you are coming from completely,there are all levels of income and knowledge in the car culture,some of my friends just laugh when I out spend them 10 to 1 on my cars and I look on in envy when some of the folks on here and people I know personaly out spnd me 10 to 1 on their cars,the diference between my core group and alot of the folks that are posting in that thread on the other site is anyone of us will try our best to help out another car person
The last time I raced was a test and tune on a friday night up in epping NH about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me...didn't you know I had the ONLY set of jumper cables there...I think those jumpers went around the pits twice that night and when I got back from my last run there they where neatly coiled up on top of my spare tire and misc things from my trunk.I love racing the folks who race alot are the best...no matter what brand they drive...

Well said!:beer: :beer:

[musclemerc]

After reading that thread over at MCM, I'm reminded that I've often had the feeling that the non-original Marauder owners (aka the folks like me, who purchased used) are viewed as second-class citizens by some of the original owners. Hell, I've seen that same condescending attitude in person by some of the original Marauderer's I've met over the past couple years, even before I bought mine.

Flashback to 2002, when my car was being built:
-I was working on my B.A. and making less than 10k/yr.
-I was driving a POS Chrysler LeBaron.
-I was living with my mom.

I've always felt like I had to justify or apologize for those things. But I had other priorities, like getting a decent job, buying a house, etc. The Marauder was on the 'bucket list' and I was able to cross it off, just not the same way "they" did. Just because some of us came late to the game and paid less for our cars because they were used, or maybe we don't use the same power adders they do, doesn't mean we necessarily like our cars any less than "they" do...

So ultimately, what my long-winded post is trying to get around to, is that I wanted to second what Pops said, as this was always my understanding of kar kulture:

:beer:
I, for one, am glad that we still have some folks around who are looking at new and creative ideas for Marauder owners.


+1 This is the very reason MCM NEVER has more than 20 people logged in at a single time and here well have 40~70 at the same time. The site has been highjacked by the elite and only a select few feel they have the right to post.

[guspech750]

I still like cheese and I will share my cheese with people.............

Lets have a group hug please!!

http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-18/group-hug-gay.jpg

[Pops]

Now for the next verse of YMCA!:shake:

[dakslim]

I still like cheese and I will share my cheese with people.............

Lets have a group hug please!!

http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-18/group-hug-gay.jpg

I'm sorry...that photo is just
just wrong!:eek:

[dakslim]

True, true. Nice post :beer: Not everyone can get along, it's just a sad fact of life.

I know, I know...who would want a BLUE Marauder??????:confused:

[SC Cheesehead]

I'll go you one better, bubba! Doomie's theme song...;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

[FordNut]

Are generic drugs the same as name brand drugs?

Brand name drugs and their generics are IDENTICAL in terms of active ingredients. The generic pills may look different (because they are made by a different company) but inside is exactly the same active ingredient, which works in exactly the same way.

The only difference between brand name drugs and generic drugs is that generics are always much less expensive. Savings of up to 80% can be made by purchasing generic drugs instead of namebrand medication.

All pharmaceuticals are simple recipes of common chemical raw ingredients

Hijack!
Speaking of pharmaceuticals, think about this... Pharmaceutical manufacturers in this country must pay tens of millions of dollars and several man-years of time for the approval process on a new drug. It may not even work effectively and not be approved, but that money is spent. So it may take 5 or more drug trials to bring a new drug to market, each costing that much capital investment. This is part of the FDA approval process. Once the drug goes to market, each facility must pay an annual fee to the FDA for the right to manufacture the drug. The fee is about $350,000 per facility. There are additional fees for products, about $100,000 per product. So if they make two products at that facility they pay the FDA about $550,000 just for the rights to manufacture. And people complain about the high price of drugs in this country? It's primarily driven by government intrusion. OK so next is the good part...

The FDA's budget was increased substantially in the new budget. The primary source for funding the new budget is through INCREASED fees. And the increases are supposed to pay for increased inspection of the Food part of the FDA, not the Drug part. Government at work, making pharmaceutical companies pay for food inspections. Oh, and they've passed new regulations on farms, several small farms in my local area have quit growing certain crops (like the pick-them-yourself strawberry fields) because new government regulations are so strict on where they get water from for watering the crops. They can't just pump it from the plentiful ponds and creeks any more like they have done for generations, it has to come from a treated water supply.

[Phrog_gunner]

The caption to that pic should be "tickle tickle"

[Pops]

Just like this thread! Maybe it will get locked now so we do not get more of these pictures posted. Someone will be putting up mating Hippo's next!:help:

[Phrog_gunner]

Just like this thread! Maybe it will get locked now so we do not get more of these pictures posted. Someone will be putting up mating Hippo's next!:help:

I don't see what Mr Man has to do with this. (for the record, Mrs D is left out of this joke)

[CBT]

Hijack!
Speaking of pharmaceuticals, think about this... Pharmaceutical manufacturers in this country must pay tens of millions of dollars and several man-years of time for the approval process on a new drug. It may not even work effectively and not be approved, but that money is spent. So it may take 5 or more drug trials to bring a new drug to market, each costing that much capital investment. This is part of the FDA approval process. Once the drug goes to market, each facility must pay an annual fee to the FDA for the right to manufacture the drug. The fee is about $350,000 per facility. There are additional fees for products, about $100,000 per product. So if they make two products at that facility they pay the FDA about $550,000 just for the rights to manufacture. And people complain about the high price of drugs in this country? It's primarily driven by government intrusion.

Yeah but they get a 15 year strangle hold on the patent to recoup their "loses" paid to the FDA. That's 15 years of pure profit.

[dakslim]

In before the lock.

[SC Cheesehead]

http://ic2.pbase.com/o4/94/539594/1/58621959.Hippo1.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/chillmanafrica/serengeti05&page=4)

IBTL

[dakslim]

http://ic2.pbase.com/o4/94/539594/1/58621959.Hippo1.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/chillmanafrica/serengeti05&page=4)

IBTL

Way to go Pops!:shake:

[Phrog_gunner]

In before the Humpy Humpy Hippos lock.

[-Matt-]

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/Allyham/In_before_the_lock.jpg

[Pops]

I figured someone had that shot!:banana2:

[Phrog_gunner]

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/Allyham/In_before_the_lock.jpg


This fail brought to you by the USAF in partnership with the Rainbow Coalition.

[Pops]

OK guys I give up for tonight! Talk to you in the morning!;)

[FordNut]

Yeah but they get a 15 year strangle hold on the patent to recoup their "loses" paid to the FDA. That's 15 years of pure profit.

What about annual fees and costs for manufacturing, marketing, and distribution? It ain't pure profit. People have that common misconception.

[SC Cheesehead]

Way to go Pops!:shake:


In before the Humpy Humpy Hippos lock.


Dragline (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/name/nm0001421/): Anything so innocent and built like that just gotta be named Lucille.

[dakslim]

This fail brought to you by the USAF in partnership with the Rainbow Coalition.

Aren't they one and the same?:confused:

[CBT]

.................
18872

[Phrog_gunner]

Yeah but they get a 15 year strangle hold on the patent to recoup their "loses" paid to the FDA. That's 15 years of pure profit.

The point is that if those taxes weren't so ridiculous, the drug company could make the same profit and a much smaller cost to the consumer??

[SC Cheesehead]

.................
18872

Pressed rat and warthog have closed down their shop.
They didn't want to; twas all they had got.
Selling atonal apples, amplified heat,
And pressed rats collection of dog legs and feet.

Sadly they left, telling no one goodbye.
Pressed rat wore red jodhpurs, warthog a striped tie.
Between them, they carried a three-legged sack,
Went straight round the corner and never came back....By ginger baker and mike taylor

:dunno:

[CBT]

What about annual fees and costs for manufacturing, marketing, and distribution? It ain't pure profit. People have that common misconception.
Drugs are like Girl Scout Cookies, dirt cheap to make, and sold for a crazy profit. I watched a news show that was telling about an Israeli pharma company that cracked the codes of a lot of drugs by reverese engineering them. Think we can buy them here? Not a chance. That's why our govment doesn't like when we order cheap drugs from Canada.

[FordNut]

The point is that if those taxes weren't so ridiculous, the drug company could make the same profit and a much smaller cost to the consumer??

Which is why the exact same drug costs less when manufactured and sold in other countries. Trickle-down economics. Big government, big taxes, passed right down to the consumer.

[CBT]

Pressed rat and warthog have closed down their shop.
They didn't want to; twas all they had got.
Selling atonal apples, amplified heat,
And pressed rats collection of dog legs and feet.

Sadly they left, telling no one goodbye.
Pressed rat wore red jodhpurs, warthog a striped tie.
Between them, they carried a three-legged sack,
Went straight round the corner and never came back....By ginger baker and mike taylor

:dunno:
Ginger Baker, drummer for Cream. Don't know the other guy.

[FordNut]

Drugs are like Girl Scout Cookies, dirt cheap to make, and sold for a crazy profit. I watched a news show that was telling about an Israeli pharma company that cracked the codes of a lot of drugs by reverese engineering them. Think we can buy them here? Not a chance. That's why our govment doesn't like when we order cheap drugs from Canada.

So you watched a news show produced by the liberal press and took that as gospel?

Our governmend doesn't want us to import drugs manufactured elsewhere because it would shut down the US drug manufacturing, effectively killing the funding for FDA.

[bawazir]

.................
18872


I'll hit that :D

[CBT]

So you watched a news show produced by the liberal press and took that as gospel?

Our governmend doesn't want us to import drugs manufactured elsewhere because it would shut down the US drug manufacturing, effectively killing the funding for FDA.

That's fine with me, whatever makes it affordable. But I liken it to all the "American" vehicles manufactured in Mexico. Labor is dirt cheap there, so the price of vehicles should reflect the cost savings, correct? Fat chance of us seeing any of the cost savings. Same with drugs.

[SC Cheesehead]

Ginger Baker, drummer for Cream. Don't know the other guy.

Warthog's agent.

Everybody believes in something; I believe I'll have another beer. Norm - CHEERS.

[FordNut]

That's fine with me, whatever makes it affordable. But I liken it to all the "American" vehicles manufactured in Mexico. Labor is dirt cheap there, so the price of vehicles should reflect the cost savings, correct? Fat chance of us seeing any of the cost savings. Same with drugs.

Cool with me, abolish the FDA!

[justbob]

Wow, this got off track.

[-Matt-]

Drugs are like Girl Scout Cookies, dirt cheap to make, and sold for a crazy profit. I watched a news show that was telling about an Israeli pharma company that cracked the codes of a lot of drugs by reverese engineering them. Think we can buy them here? Not a chance. That's why our govment doesn't like when we order cheap drugs from Canada.


Speaking of girl scout cookies


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/xxshowstoppaxx/1266893558724.jpg

[SC Cheesehead]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/GirlScoutDemotivator.jpg

IBTL....

[bob6364]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/GirlScoutDemotivator.jpg

IBTL....

Great...thanks....now my laptop will smell like beer for weeks....

[CBT]

Wow, this got off track.
Huh? Why you say that?
18873

[SC Cheesehead]

Great...thanks....now my laptop will smell like beer for weeks....


You bought beer flavored cookies??? :dunno:

[CBT]

You bought beer flavored cookies??? :dunno:
Great idea!!!

[Mr. Man]

I don't see what Mr Man has to do with this. (for the record, Mrs D is left out of this joke)

Leave me out of this one jackass at least I can get laid

[DOOM]

I don't see what Mr Man has to do with this. (for the record, Mrs D is left out of this joke)

You beat me to it! :lol:

[DOOM]

leave me out of this one jackass at least i can get laid

thats what she said!!!

[Phrog_gunner]

thats what she said!!!

pow!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MM03MOK]

Thanks for playing.