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only1bucci
02-22-2010, 09:46 PM
i bought a 2004 marauder fully loaded including sunroof ford said this is the rariest one with the combo of sunroof and color plus the year.....i bought car for 9,500.00. its in a ford dealership getting new tranny my buddy owns the dealership so im getting work done at cost...i have 2003 marauder with shift kit and hp tourqe converter but i cant find anything for the 2004..since he is going to have tranny out and will do anytihng for free basically i just gotta get parts what should i get while he got the tranny out and apart...he is also putting 3.73 gears in rear for me for free so i dont wanna ask for to much just whats easy while he has tranny out ?????

mrjones
02-23-2010, 05:21 AM
That's a BIG sentence...

RoyLPita
02-23-2010, 05:23 AM
:congrats: and good luck.

Bradley G
02-23-2010, 05:24 AM
what is your budget for parts?

johnnyrauder
02-23-2010, 06:02 AM
how bout a DR tranny upgrade

CROWNMARAUDER
02-23-2010, 06:12 AM
[quote=only1bucci;870208]i bought a 2004 marauder fully loaded including sunroof ford said this is the rariest one with the combo of sunroof and color plus the year.....

Actually the black with light flint interiors are the rarest followed by the blues & then the DTR's.

CBT
02-23-2010, 06:13 AM
[quote=only1bucci;870208]i bought a 2004 marauder fully loaded including sunroof ford said this is the rariest one with the combo of sunroof and color plus the year.....

Actually the black with light flint interiors are the rarest followed by the blues & then the DTR's.

How many black with light flint are there?

musclemerc
02-23-2010, 06:19 AM
2 MM's, Nice... Post up some pics!

fastblackmerc
02-23-2010, 07:13 AM
Go with 4.10's instead of the 3.73's. You won't notice a difference going from the stock 3.55's to 3.73's. Talk to Darrin about tranny upgrades. Also look at PI torque converters.

Pops
02-23-2010, 07:19 AM
Are you the same guy who had all the street racing problems here and posted up the videos?

bawazir
02-23-2010, 07:23 AM
Are you the same guy who had all the street racing problems here and posted up the videos?


Pops, this look like one bad mean engine what did you do to it?
and how much HP the engine alone make?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/5/4/6/5/engine.JPG

Pops
02-23-2010, 07:27 AM
Street tune is 665. Race tune 695 which has not been used by me yet. I have a couple of more tricks for it that may be ready for spring.

mgmsleeper
02-23-2010, 07:27 AM
lol nobody answered anything he said this thread is jacked

bawazir
02-23-2010, 07:41 AM
Street tune is 665. Race tune 695 which has not been used by me yet. I have a couple of more tricks for it that may be ready for spring.


Nice, do you have more pics you could post?

Pops
02-23-2010, 07:44 AM
Look around in the Johns Stereo forum and the Michigan forum. Marauderville 7 has drag racing.

CROWNMARAUDER
02-23-2010, 08:00 AM
[quote=CROWNMARAUDER;870250]

How many black with light flint are there?


There were 115 made in 2003 & 156 in 2004.

DOOM
02-23-2010, 08:20 AM
Are you the same guy who had all the street racing problems here and posted up the videos?

YES! It's the same guy!

Pops
02-23-2010, 08:23 AM
YES! It's the same guy!

Seems like they would have kept this one out! :shake::shake::shake:

CBT
02-23-2010, 08:32 AM
Seems like they would have kept this one out! :shake::shake::shake:
LMAO! He's not so bad.

DOOM
02-23-2010, 08:42 AM
LMAO! He's not so bad.

He has the 12sec. N/A car!
Pops is worried about this guy!
When he puts slicks on he'll run 10's! :burnout:

Pops
02-23-2010, 08:48 AM
He has the 12sec. N/A car!
Pops is worried about this guy!
When he puts slicks on he'll run 10's! :burnout::run::hide:

ImpalaSlayer
02-23-2010, 09:18 AM
lol bawzair was just posting pics since this is in the photography forum

CBT
02-23-2010, 09:40 AM
He has the 12sec. N/A car!
Pops is worried about this guy!
When he puts slicks on he'll run 10's! :burnout:

Mine goes to 11.

Pops
02-23-2010, 09:42 AM
Mine goes to 11.

Must be the volume control!;)

Black_Out
02-23-2010, 09:53 AM
lol nobody answered anything he said this thread is jacked

+1

While the tranny is out all you can really do is upgrade the torque converter, unless you want to tear it down and upgrade the tranny itself.

Buy some headers and install them while you're in there :)

rayjay
02-23-2010, 11:01 AM
Go to a higher stall TC with the tranny out, 3200-3500, go with 4.10 instead of 3.73 gears. You will have to put a tune to make it run/shift correctly. Do the headers if you have the coin. I have a 04, DTR, Moon roof, heated seats. Yes they are rare, but not the most rare. Enjoy your car.

Blackened300a
02-23-2010, 11:09 AM
i bought a 2004 marauder fully loaded including sunroof ford said this is the rariest one with the combo of sunroof and color plus the year.....i bought car for 9,500.00. its in a ford dealership getting new tranny my buddy owns the dealership so im getting work done at cost...i have 2003 marauder with shift kit and hp tourqe converter but i cant find anything for the 2004..since he is going to have tranny out and will do anytihng for free basically i just gotta get parts what should i get while he got the tranny out and apart...he is also putting 3.73 gears in rear for me for free so i dont wanna ask for to much just whats easy while he has tranny out ?????

OK, since you have the tranny out, you would want to upgrade to the spiral lock for the O/D band instead of the C-clip and you should swap out the torque convertor to a 3000 or 3500 stall. You can do a search for "J-Mod" which is inexpensive simple shift kit for these transmissions.
3.73's are a total waste of time and money IMO. Go for the 4.10s or 4.30s. They make a much bigger improvement over stock.

babbage
02-23-2010, 01:45 PM
Don't forget the drive shaft upgrade all you 4.10 recommenders!

Factory gears with Factory shaft are good for only 117.

I wish I had a buddy at the Ford dealer who did free stuff.

Blackened300a
02-23-2010, 02:15 PM
Don't forget the drive shaft upgrade all you 4.10 recommenders!.

I been going almost 4yrs on the stock shaft and 4.10s so its up to debate still.

SC Cheesehead
02-23-2010, 02:46 PM
I been going almost 4yrs on the stock shaft and 4.10s so its up to debate still.

Same here.

RR|Suki
02-23-2010, 03:00 PM
I been going almost 4yrs on the stock shaft and 4.10s so its up to debate still.

same, I trap 117 - 118mph and I usually don't lift my foot till 3rd gear ends a moment after I cross the lights so 124mph or so I'd guess.
I ran stock shaft and 4.10s for 4 or so years, and only switched to a new shaft because I bought a cvpi shaft on ebay for $70 in October of last year.
So it certainly isn't a rule that 4.10s + stock shaft = damage.

fastblackmerc
02-23-2010, 03:11 PM
Have four years and 45k on my 4.10's & stock driveshaft. No problems.

tbone
02-23-2010, 03:55 PM
i bought a 2004 marauder fully loaded including sunroof ford said this is the rariest one with the combo of sunroof and color plus the year.....i bought car for 9,500.00. its in a ford dealership getting new tranny my buddy owns the dealership so im getting work done at cost...i have 2003 marauder with shift kit and hp tourqe converter but i cant find anything for the 2004..since he is going to have tranny out and will do anytihng for free basically i just gotta get parts what should i get while he got the tranny out and apart...he is also putting 3.73 gears in rear for me for free so i dont wanna ask for to much just whats easy while he has tranny out ?????

That's a really good price IMO. Did you know the tranny was bad when you bought it?

Glenn
02-23-2010, 06:16 PM
He has the 12sec. N/A car!
Pops is worried about this guy!
When he puts slicks on he'll run 10's! :burnout:

NO one on earth has a 12 sec MM NA stock engine car - Period!

Glenn :burnout:

Those 12 second trolls are everywhere

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZwSBXOerBc/SLIt0yaxwFI/AAAAAAAAAG8/jdctXnEBKck/s400/image005.jpg

only1bucci
02-23-2010, 08:54 PM
ddnt know the tranny was bad but when i found out the guy pad for the new tranny....i know it was the rarest color of 04 and it has sunroof so it has to be close to the rarest

MrBluGruv
02-23-2010, 09:29 PM
NO one on earth has a 12 sec MM NA stock engine car - Period!

Glenn :burnout:

Those 12 second trolls are everywhere

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZwSBXOerBc/SLIt0yaxwFI/AAAAAAAAAG8/jdctXnEBKck/s400/image005.jpg

If I recall correctly, he was able to hit 12 because he was using NOS. He didn't mention it until later on, not sure he realized it was considered a power adder like forced induction.

RoyLPita
02-24-2010, 04:56 AM
ddnt know the tranny was bad but when i found out the guy pad for the new tranny....i know it was the rarest color of 04 and it has sunroof so it has to be close to the rarest

If he "paid" for it, why are you buying another tranny for it?

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 05:42 AM
He gave me the loot to pay for the tranny job but my buddy owns a ford dealership so I m only paying 4 parts :)-

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 05:43 AM
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CBT
02-24-2010, 05:44 AM
He gave me the loot to pay for the tranny job but my buddy owns a ford dealership so I m only paying 4 parts :)-

Sounds like a good deal, throw up some pics. :beer:

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 07:07 AM
how do i put the pictures up

RoyLPita
02-24-2010, 07:35 AM
He gave me the loot to pay for the tranny job but my buddy owns a ford dealership so I m only paying 4 parts :)-

That's cool. Looks like you made out on this one. :up:

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 07:48 AM
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.view Picture&friendID=417033067&albumId=1607710

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:01 AM
i called ford performance racing group the place where u order the certificates of when car was made.....they said i have very rare combo because sunroof was no avaliable in 2003 plus they upgraded the tranny in 04....he told me down the line my car is gonna be if not the rareiest close...he even said he dont see why this combo wouldnt be the rarest...how can i find out for sure i wanna know the guy who sold it to me needed money bad he leased it brand new and ened up keepiing it i just paid what he owed on it then he gave me a 1000 dollars back when i found out about the tranny he is so stupid because 9500 with a bad tranny is still a good deal 50 k on it evey option you could get it got....my buddy who owns the dealership printed me out a paper with all the info on what pakages they bought when they bought this car in late feb 2004.....the guy who owns the dealership is putting the 3.73 gers for free....i dont want anything higher if you seen my youtube videos on my 03 im all about going 120 mph plus i love it so 4,10 will be to high at 150 160 mph and since all labor is free and he happens to have 3.73 brand new laying around at his house he gave it to me for 30 bucks so i figure instead of just leaving 3.53 limited slip i might as well spend the extra 30 bucks and get the 3.73. since the local dealer fixes all the cop cars he has tons of kevlar gears and all.....i think this one ill just get new tranny and k & n intake and tunnner and mufflers....im not gonna go crazy with this 1....the 03 is all setup and ready for what ever i do pix are on my myspace. i dont know how to put them on here...i was gonna sell the blck 1 but its pimpin when my girl and me drive side by side people break there knecks

CBT
02-24-2010, 08:09 AM
Sounds awesome, I wish my gal would buy a Marauder but she is leaning towards a Hemi Challenger or SS Camaro. I don't know how rare your car is with that combo, it depends on how you break them down. My '03 was one of 70 (or 71, can't remember) if you go by how many did not have the 6-CD changer in the trunk. That's strictly off the assembly line, I do not think any Marauders rolled off the line with a sunroof, so if yours did it is 1 of 1:beer:



i called ford performance racing group the place where u order the certificates of when car was made.....they said i have very rare combo because sunroof was no avaliable in 2003 plus they upgraded the tranny in 04....he told me down the line my car is gonna be if not the rareiest close...he even said he dont see why this combo wouldnt be the rarest...how can i find out for sure i wanna know the guy who sold it to me needed money bad he leased it brand new and ened up keepiing it i just paid what he owed on it then he gave me a 1000 dollars back when i found out about the tranny he is so stupid because 9500 with a bad tranny is still a good deal 50 k on it evey option you could get it got....my buddy who owns the dealership printed me out a paper with all the info on what pakages they bought when they bought this car in late feb 2004.....the guy who owns the dealership is putting the 3.73 gers for free....i dont want anything higher if you seen my youtube videos on my 03 im all about going 120 mph plus i love it so 4,10 will be to high at 150 160 mph and since all labor is free and he happens to have 3.73 brand new laying around at his house he gave it to me for 30 bucks so i figure instead of just leaving 3.53 limited slip i might as well spend the extra 30 bucks and get the 3.73. since the local dealer fixes all the cop cars he has tons of kevlar gears and all.....i think this one ill just get new tranny and k & n intake and tunnner and mufflers....im not gonna go crazy with this 1....the 03 is all setup and ready for what ever i do pix are on my myspace. i dont know how to put them on here...i was gonna sell the blck 1 but its pimpin when my girl and me drive side by side people break there knecks

Blackened300a
02-24-2010, 08:10 AM
If you're all about top end, then you would be better off leaving the 3.55s in.

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:15 AM
they came factory option for sunroof in 2004

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:17 AM
i just had them run the vin at ford parts department vin 2mhhm79v94x661811
its a stock sunroof straight from ford....if you dont beleive me call youre self

RR|Suki
02-24-2010, 08:20 AM
i just had them run the vin at ford parts department vin 2mhhm79v94x661811
its a stock sunroof straight from ford....if you dont beleive me call youre self

It didn't come off the line with a sunroof is what he is saying. Yes it is a factory option, but it wasn't installed on the line. They were installed after the cars were finished by an outside company. Still a factory option though, just not installed at the plant

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:23 AM
no i know what youre talking about,.....mine wasnt sent to an outside company.....the person who bought my car pre ordered it and had it fully loaded that sunroof is 1 of around 300 stock form dealership my vins up there cal any ford dealership you want,,.....they told me the marauders that they sent out to get them done that was when people wanted sunroofs after the car was already built

CBT
02-24-2010, 08:24 AM
It didn't come off the line with a sunroof is what he is saying. Yes it is a factory option, but it wasn't installed on the line. They were installed after the cars were finished by an outside company. Still a factory option though, just not installed at the plant

That's how I meant for it to sound, lol. For the sake of clarity, I believe you that it has a sunroof, but if you count that as a rarity, should we include how mny have the "factory" spoiler? Either way i am still jealous you have 2 Marauders.:beer:

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:26 AM
by the way someone was saying something about the rare ones had flint seats what is flint....i asked the guy in the dealer and he said my red marauder has flint interior

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:27 AM
i was gonna sell the 2003 if you offer me right amount ill take it and everything and i mean everything is brand new besides motor 100 k on motor and body

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:28 AM
the track just opened ill have time slips up wth the nas and with out

RR|Suki
02-24-2010, 08:30 AM
by the way someone was saying something about the rare ones had flint seats what is flint....i asked the guy in the dealer and he said my red marauder has flint interior

The flint is a light interior rather than the normal dark.

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:35 AM
wow and flnt is worth more because thats what my 04 is.....i love black though and since both marauders are mine i own em cash straight out i was gonna put the black leather in the red 04 ......i gotta check into this rareity of flint.....i really want the black seats in my 04 i was just ready to swtch thme this week....how can i fond out what they wll be looking for down the line for rareness i was tolld color and sunroof so far

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:36 AM
also where can i get a supercharger for around 5 k complete kit

Hadamustang1
02-24-2010, 08:41 AM
That car must be as rare as mine....http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/itskevin049/DCFC0025.jpg

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:44 AM
yes thats the same one i have is thhat flint interior .....and if it is does that make it more rare

CBT
02-24-2010, 08:45 AM
wow and flnt is worth more because thats what my 04 is.....i love black though and since both marauders are mine i own em cash straight out i was gonna put the black leather in the red 04 ......i gotta check into this rareity of flint.....i really want the black seats in my 04 i was just ready to swtch thme this week....how can i fond out what they wll be looking for down the line for rareness i was tolld color and sunroof so far
Yeah man, when you get your certificate, it breaks down what color car and what color interior, you'll see. Like for blue, (the only color that matters, ha!) a rare combo would be charcoal interior, no 6-CD changer, you'd be:
1 of 328
1 of 113
1 of 70 (71, whatever)
I don't have the charcoal interior, tho. :(

RR|Suki
02-24-2010, 08:47 AM
yes thats the same one i have is thhat flint interior .....and if it is does that make it more rare

More rare than some, less rare than others, but no more valuable. . . maybe in 30 years they will have some kind of special value. I doubt these will ever be collector cars though, we'll see.

Hadamustang1
02-24-2010, 08:48 AM
Yep.. still got the car.. The woman no... Oh well. That was a fun trip to RENO.. LOL

Blackened300a
02-24-2010, 08:49 AM
I don't have the charcoal interior, tho. :(

Boooo! I couldn't put up with that light flint color. I wouldn't have bought my car if it had it in there.

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:49 AM
y is the blue the only 1 that matters im confused because fordperformance group is telling me other wise i could have bout 03 blue with 9 k on it for 15....he is still selling it iif thas the case ill go buy that one right now

fastblackmerc
02-24-2010, 08:50 AM
That's how I meant for it to sound, lol. For the sake of clarity, I believe you that it has a sunroof, but if you count that as a rarity, should we include how mny have the "factory" spoiler? Either way i am still jealous you have 2 Marauders.:beer:

Just to clarify....

A sunroof is a sliding metal panel

A moonroof is a sliding, fixed or pop up glass panel

"A sunroof is opaque (usually flush metal with the body color on the outside). This roof can either tilt open to vent, slide open to let in light, or both. It is called a sunroof because the opacity prevents the sun from heating up the vehicle. These have existed for quite some time.

In the 1970s, Ford introduced a glass sunroof that they named the Moonroof (actually, the American Sunroof Company, the company that made all domestic sunroofs and now known as American Specialty Cars invented it, but Ford was the first to install it). So to answer the question, a moonroof is a sunroof made of glass.

The problem is, the distinction is becoming lost as more and more people use it incorrectly, Most people today just consider any sort of hole in the roof a sunroof. But in the strictest sense, sunroof=metal, moonroof=glass."

If your MM has a factory moonroof (glass) then it was not installed at the factory. The moonroof was installed at ASC (http://www.ascglobal.com), your car left the assembly line as an incomplete build.

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:51 AM
well the implala ss they made like 70,000 and they are writh good money...

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 08:53 AM
my car is not an incomplet build that only happens when it is sent out to other places my vine is up there my sunroof moonrof whatever you call it was factory

CBT
02-24-2010, 08:55 AM
y is the blue the only 1 that matters im confused because fordperformance group is telling me other wise i could have bout 03 blue with 9 k on it for 15....he is still selling it iif thas the case ill go buy that one right now
Blue was 2003 only, and they only made 328. And they are faster.

SC Cheesehead
02-24-2010, 08:58 AM
my car is not an incomplet build that only happens when it is sent out to other places my vine is up there my sunroof moonrof whatever you call it was factory

Well then you do have a rare car, 1 of 1, because Ford didn't install any moonroofs at St. Thomas Works, all the cars ordered with moonroofs were sent out to have them installed at ASC. If somebody told you otherwise, they gave you incorrect info.

CBT
02-24-2010, 09:01 AM
Check out this fascinating, in depth article about the blue Marauder that was written by a ruggedly handsome, mainly heterosexual, epic beard having faux journalist.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60228


y is the blue the only 1 that matters im confused because fordperformance group is telling me other wise i could have bout 03 blue with 9 k on it for 15....he is still selling it iif thas the case ill go buy that one right now

SC Cheesehead
02-24-2010, 09:04 AM
Check out this fascinating, in depth article about the blue Marauder that was written by a ruggedly handsome, mainly heterosexual, epic beard having faux journalist.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60228


Hey, what did the prof. give you for a grade on the assignment?

Pops
02-24-2010, 09:05 AM
Hey, what did the prof. give you for a grade on the assignment?

Late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

CBT
02-24-2010, 09:06 AM
Hey, what did the prof. give you for a grade on the assignment?

She flippin' cancelled class last night, due to illness:mad2:

SC Cheesehead
02-24-2010, 09:09 AM
She flippin' cancelled class last night, due to illness:mad2:

:eek: Your article made her sick??!!! :shake:

babbage
02-24-2010, 09:09 AM
Check out this fascinating, in depth article about the blue Marauder that was written by a ruggedly handsome, mainly heterosexual, epic beard having faux journalist.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60228

Eww - Got Aids Yet? :flamer:

CBT
02-24-2010, 09:11 AM
:eek: Your article made her sick??!!! :shake:
lol, you suck. good catch, tho.:beer:

SC Cheesehead
02-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Eww - Got Aids Yet? :flamer:

Somebody offering? :dunno: -----> ;) -------> :D

CBT
02-24-2010, 09:12 AM
Eww - Got Aids Yet? :flamer:
No. But the day ain't over.

only1bucci
02-24-2010, 09:35 AM
ne1 wanna buy n 03 black on black 9 g

burt ragio
02-24-2010, 09:54 AM
I been going almost 4yrs on the stock shaft and 4.10s so its up to debate still.

I have been going #6 years clocked 100,6002 miles to date. All on stock shaft and 4:10s mostly hwy at above speeds. No leaks at trans tail shaft no cracks oem bushing & seal still in place. No rear tail shaft forced lube kit. Still in closset.

Bluerauder
02-24-2010, 10:35 AM
my car is not an incomplet build that only happens when it is sent out to other places my vine is up there my sunroof moonrof whatever you call it was factory


i just had them run the vin at ford parts department vin 2mhhm79v94x661811
its a stock sunroof straight from ford....if you dont beleive me call youre self

Your VIN starts with "2MHHM". The 1st "H" means it was an incomplete vehicle when it left the factory. The moonroof was added later before being sent to the dealers. For some reason, Ford Performance Group (FPG) never broke out the Moonroofs even though they carry different VIN identifiers. Th others start with "2MEHM"

Did you actually order the stuff from FPG or just try to weasel the info out of them? For $40 you can get the certificate, the breakout and your production number.

There were 980 DTRs (574 charcoal/406 light flint) made in 2004. Still less rare than 328 Blues (113 charcoal/215 light flint). :P

Option breakouts are in this thread (Post #1 for 2003 MM and Post #64 for 2004 MM) >>>>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58208

rayjay
02-24-2010, 04:01 PM
Spank that puppy.

Big Black Beast
02-24-2010, 05:04 PM
Sounds awesome, I wish my gal would buy a Marauder but she is leaning towards a Hemi Challenger or SS Camaro.

If she buys either of those, dump her!

Big Black Beast
02-24-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't care for sunroofs or the light flint interior, so