FRPP shorty's

[musclemerc]

I'm alway's hunting for good used parts on the net and I found these today. If you think shorty's are in your future here's another set of FRPP's that you can get for the cheap. Let's see who's next to jump on the short tube bandwagon. Please DON'T highjack the thread with the short tube long tube debate. If an EGR adaptor is needed PM me I can help.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/exhaust-257/675807-sale-ford-racing-shorties.html

[musclemerc]

That was fast!!! These are SOLD....

[dohc324ci]

WHAT! Man good keeping a look out. I need to to do this mod!

[musclemerc]

B Castro! Everytime I post you come end DEAD LAST! Better work on your reaction time! BTW did your boy ever do his?

[dohc324ci]

I know it!

I havent heard from Sky in a while PM/email....??? I hope he is okay.

[fastblackmerc]

That's a good price for them.

One word of advice......

See the plug in the front of the left side header? Weld that plug in. We don't use it on the Marauder and if it blows out................

[ImpalaSlayer]

would those even work on our heads?

[musclemerc]

would those even work on our heads?

Yeah they fit! FRPP only made one 4V shorty header. The guy did'nt know the application and just assummed. I don't think the 4V went into 1996 stang's so he just did'nt know.

Agreed Fastblackmerc I thought the same thing! If that thing got lost good luck finding a replacement.

These went to another friend of mine. Damn Glenn!

[massacre]

IIRC there will be a mismatch of the exhaust ports('03 are bigger) but will work.

[Glenn]

Don't understand it - they only run 11.80s in the quarter. NO, wrong - Merc runs 11.56 I believe and he is going for low 11s or even 10s WITH shortys. NO, I must be wrong. You can not run that fast with shortys, it's physically impossible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/gatlin.gif

Glenn

[MrBluGruv]

^

See post #1

[dohc324ci]

You just couldn't resist huh Glenn....LOL

[musclemerc]

That's OK Glenn gets a pass, BTW Glenn there are 2 more to add to the list soon. I've been getting 1 PM after the other. I've been on the hunt for shorty's and helped facilitate the sale to a few guy's now. Hopefully I won't get painted as a PIRATE for my actions by the people running LT's but if I do OH WELL!

[RR|Suki]

Don't understand it - they only run 11.80s in the quarter. NO, wrong - Merc runs 11.56 I believe and he is going for low 11s or even 10s WITH shortys. NO, I must be wrong. You can not run that fast with shortys, it's physically impossible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/gatlin.gif

Glenn

Who said you can't go fast with shorties? As I remember it the statement is that you make more power with LTs. Run race gas and spray and you can go plenty fast... I just do it on 93oct ;)

[Vortech347]

Some folks have a problem with reading.

[Glenn]

I guess my sense of humor is not appreciated? :shake:

Glenn :argue:

[dohc324ci]

Glenn your just wearin em out...I guess....LOL

[281MERC]

what setup works better on a N/A car? short tube or long tube?? ...sorry had too, also did you notice any difference whatsoever with that intake spacer?? i am very skeptical about those things

[Blackened300a]

what setup works better on a N/A car? short tube or long tube?? ...sorry had too, also did you notice any difference whatsoever with that intake spacer?? i am very skeptical about those things

Long tube on a N/A car and the gains with the intake spacer is maybe 3 RWHP. For $110 its not a bad deal.

[musclemerc]

Both require a tune to get the full potential. LT's make more power on a NA car but on a SC application the gains are about the same. Where will your MM end up SC or NA? As far as the spacer yes it helped my torque curve.. It does'nt matter what the power plant is, the best rule of modding is more air in more air out. My plans are to end up with a Centri SC

[RR|Suki]

on a SC application the gains are about the same.

Not true, I gained 8mph in the 1/4 mile with LTs only. Short tubes can't come close to that kind of gain, especially with a centri blower.

[musclemerc]

Sorry RR Suki, you're not gonna bait me in with this one. Where's Glenn!

[RR|Suki]

Sorry RR Suki, you're not gonna bait me in with this one. Where's Glenn!

I am not baiting anyone, what you posted was simply incorrect.
What I posted was a factual statement of the result of going to LTs.

[babbage]

Look at what JBA claims - they have a they have a set of shorties (which are *better* than the Ford Racing shorties as they are *equal* length shorties)

JBA Shorties = 14Hp gain
JBA Long Tube = 22Hp gain

That's on a 4.6 right from the Manufacturers mouth. Do the math.

[merc]

I love to hear all this scientific data being tossed around. Dyno racers love working out the probability on paper. Having a fast car on the street has limitations. The more you have the less steerable the car becomes. High horse powered street cars often don't live up to there full capacity unless it's on the track. I have seen a ton of friends with 600+ cobra's go though expensive drag radials or wrecked their cars and part them out to lessen the recovery cost.

The shorty vs. stock vs. long tube debate has been discussed a million times. Don't do a search because you mighty retuned so many Glenn Packard posts that you might find yourself delusional. The key to winning any race is the start. Shorty are not just headers attach to factory tubes. They are in most cases attached to wider after market tubes and a pair of high flow cats. In my case a X pipes and aftermarket mufflers. I have run this combination against every exhaust and supercharger made for the marauder.

Sherman and I have similar cars and on the dyno without nitrous our rear wheel Hp's and torque numbers are close. A 470.0 v.s. my 485 according to the time slip database. The numbers are only a reference to each individuals baseline. What makes Sherman's car faster is that he has a better tune, weight reduction, and nitrous.

In the next couple of weeks I will have my car flow tested for a possible custom exhaust setup. This route is expense and may not yield a cost benefit . Either way it really doesn't much of a difference unless you making big power and I am not.

[FordNut]

Either way it really doesn't much of a difference unless you making big power and I am not.

Me neither. Maybe some day. ;)