Where to buy lowering springs (eibach?)

[Black_Out]

Where can I find the best deal on front and rear lowering springs? Alot of guys have the Eibach springs, but I can't seem to find them for the Marauder/crown vic.

Are Eibach springs the way to go, or how about www.coilsprings.com?

[ImpalaSlayer]

dont.

cut the coils on the stockers. ive herd nothing but bad things about the eibachs

[FordNut]

Cut between 3/4 to 1 full coil off the stockers using a cutoff wheel.

[Black_Out]

Really? I've heard bad things can happen from just chopping stock springs.

Hows the ride?

[gdsqdcr]

I am in the same boat as you. I found a set of Eibachs that are going in the car. I can let you know what I think of the ride quality. I used to a firm ride ... If I don't like them, I will buy a set if used stock springs and cut those, without heat and see what that is like.

[ctrlraven]

The Eibachs do not have the spring rate that even a 3/4 or 1 full cut coil of the stock spring have.

Plus cutting your stock spring saves money which you can turn around and use that money for the alignment to carfixer's specs.

[Black_Out]

Is this something I could do myself? If I bought a tool to compress the springs with and just cut them?

[Egon Spengler]

you make it sound so easy! Very time consuming project... Especially if things are rust and hard to take apart...

Is this something I could do myself? If I bought a tool to compress the springs with and just cut them?

[Black_Out]

Hehe it seems easy, at least for the rears?

Just unbolt the shocks, compress the spring... or am I wrong?

[ctrlraven]

Hehe it seems easy, at least for the rears?

Just unbolt the shocks, compress the spring... or am I wrong?
Marauders don't have rear springs, auto leveling air suspension.

Just need to do the fronts and if need be adjust the rear height via

http://kode3.smugmug.com/photos/227059636-M.jpg

[ImpalaSlayer]

Hehe it seems easy, at least for the rears?

Just unbolt the shocks, compress the spring... or am I wrong?

its very easy, just takes some time. took me about 2 hours to do both sides. just be very careful with the springs they can and WILL take fingers off if they are in the way.

[ctrlraven]

Also it's a good idea to measure from ground to center of the wheel lip on both sides so you know how much if there is any difference in height before starting. Just allow yourself the whole day to mess with it, make it a nice learning and bonding process with the car lol.

[CRUZTAKER]

Really? I've heard bad things can happen from just chopping stock springs.

Hows the ride?

I have a set coming off sometime in May if you are willing to wait.
Dirt cheap obviously since they are used.

[Black_Out]

I might just do that CRUZTAKER, pm'd ya :)

[CRUZTAKER]

I might just do that CRUZTAKER, pm'd ya :)

May have them off in April....

My son's spring league and summer training camp has run me dry financially and I am no mechanic.

It'll get done though...

[tallpaul]

I did the eibach's and lowered the rear air suspension. The car looks great with the tires tucked in like that. The front came down about an inch and the rear came down one to two inches I think. If you move the bracket all the way to the left then the car will ride on the bump stops and it will ride like a tank.

[Mr. Man]

Are you going for looks or a different ride quality?

[Black_Out]

I'd say 60/40, mostly looks, and to stiffen up the ride/cornering some.

[Mr. Man]

If you just cut your stockers the ride will remain similar to what you are used too. I too have heard conflicting things about the Eibach's. Some love em some hate em. You can always go with a custom spring. Find a good suspension shop and talk over with the shop what it is you want to accomplish and they should be able to set you up with exactly what you want.

[Black_Out]

Yeah maybe I'll just talk to the guys that are doing my 410's and see if they'll cut my stockers...

[Black_Out]

The shop says they can cut them for 50$/hour, and say it should take about an hour. worth it?

[musclemerc]

May take longer than an hour to tear it all down.... Why not save some money and do it yourself? YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

[Thunderace]

I got stock Marauder front springs, I bought from another member on this site just never used, can ship to you door for $65-, I can even cut them for you for free (I have a chop saw,quick no heat). Then you can keep stock ones if you ever want to go back to stock.

[BAD MERC]

I cut one full coil three years ago and never looked back. Got just about a 1.25" drop and it looks perfect. I dropped the rear .75" and added a Mach1 front lip from Innovative Interceptors. I always back into parking spots because it will drag. It is about 4" from the ground. Here's an after shot....

[Black_Out]

I would, but the 65$ it will cost for the springs, plus paying to put them in, is more expensive than having them cut my own springs.

I would like to do it myself, but IDK HOW! IM SCARED! HOLD ME

[Black_Out]

I cut one full coil three years ago and never looked back. Got just about a 1.25" drop and it looks perfect. I dropped the rear .75" and added a Mach1 front lip from Innovative Interceptors. I always back into parking spots because it will drag. It is about 4" from the ground. Here's an after shot....

Almost exactly what I want to do ^

[Joe Walsh]

Cut between 3/4 to 1 full coil off the stockers using a cutoff wheel.


I will buy a set if used stock springs and cut those, without heat and see what that is like.


(I have a chop saw, quick no heat).

Yep! ....Just don't cut them with a 'smoke wrench'.

Or you could do what the ricers do:
Heat the springs in one spot until they start to sag....then let them cool off....Voila!....Instant lowered car!.....:eek:........:shake:

[Zack]

You can get the front spring assembly off in 15 minutes or less per side.

[Black_Out]

You can get the front spring assembly off in 15 minutes or less per side.

How? Got any tips?

I suppose I need to buy a spring compressor eh?

[Tyrone Minto]

Where can I find the best deal on front and rear lowering springs? Alot of guys have the Eibach springs, but I can't seem to find them for the Marauder/crown vic.

Are Eibach springs the way to go, or how about www.coilsprings.com? (http://www.coilsprings.com?)
Cut 1 coil off the front springs. Find an alignment shop that will do it.
I am sorry I waited so long to do it. Then lower the rear as outlined in this thread.
I lowered my other Hot Rod MM with the QA1 package for $1,500 and other than the being adjustable, the ride and look of the cut coils is just as good. Just have them cut with a die grinder and don't get them too hot.

[Black_Out]

Got it. I think I'll wait till I have money for new shocks and just do it all at once. Thanks guys :D

[FordNut]

I believe the removal is kinda like this:
1. Jack up the car, put it on jackstands, remove front wheels.
2. Remove brake calipers & rotors.
3. Disconnect sway bar end links and upper ball joint.
4. Remove lower bolt.
5. Remove 3 upper nuts.
6. Press down on control arm while wiggling shock/spring assembly out.

Then you'll need spring compressors to take the springs off the coilovers and reinstall them.

[burt ragio]

Cut 1 coil off the front springs. Find an alignment shop that will do it.
I am sorry I waited so long to do it. Then lower the rear as outlined in this thread.
I lowered my other Hot Rod MM with the QA1 package for $1,500 and other than the being adjustable the ride and look of the cut coils is just as good. Just have them cut with a die grinder and don't get them too hot.

I don't know if I can agree that "the ride is just as good" if you mean handling.The QA1s allow for some awsome handling. But the ride for the # of miles I travel each week just became a bit much for a every day driver. So I too cut the front coils 3/4 turn & used carfixers' specs.

[Black_Out]

How many coils should I cut off the front and rear? remember this is on my crown vic.

I want the front dropped quite a bit, and the rear dropped a little just to improve the look. I like the raked look.

[Kennyrauder]

If you want a beautiful setup, trash the rear air bags & go with HD Police Interceptor coil springs. AS a result, my Marauder has that lowered front end look without touching the front coils. All you have to do is have a Ford tech deactivate your compressor... they are trouble anyway. My Marauder handles wonderfully. You won't be sorry. If you need a part number call my Ford store. 1 705 268 FORD.

[Black_Out]

How many coils should I cut off the front and rear? remember this is on my crown vic.

I want the front dropped quite a bit, and the rear dropped a little just to improve the look. I like the raked look.

This is on my 04 crown vic, I've got coils in the rear

[ctrlraven]

This is on my 04 crown vic, I've got coils in the rear
Should of said in the very first post.

[JBeezy]

I cut one full coil three years ago and never looked back. Got just about a 1.25" drop and it looks perfect. I dropped the rear .75" and added a Mach1 front lip from Innovative Interceptors. I always back into parking spots because it will drag. It is about 4" from the ground. Here's an after shot....


I'm praying mine look this good. I just finished removing and cutting my stock springs. I have to go out and do the rear adjustments now. Not sure how far to move the bar, but I guess its just trial and error.

As someone stated earlier, it only takes about 10-15 min with air tools to get everything apart. Me and my buddies first time and it took about 25 min for one side and then on 10-15 on the other side to get everything out. A piece of cake. Rented a spring compressor from autozone.

[burt ragio]

The Eibachs do not have the spring rate that even a 3/4 or 1 full cut coil of the stock spring have.

Plus cutting your stock spring saves money which you can turn around and use that money for the alignment to carfixer's specs.


I find that hard to believe that Eibach spring rate is less than oem even with a coil cut. Where did you get that info ?

[Krytin]

you make it sound so easy! Very time consuming project... Especially if things are rust and hard to take apart...
I just put new shocks on all the way around with just over 100K on the clock. That's 100k miles of daily driving year round - sun/rain/snow.
Even on the ground with jack stands the upper ball joints, sway bar end links and upper/lower shock bolts came out with no problem.
It took me about an hour a side (remember I am old and fat and it takes me longer to get up off of the ground!) for each front shock from wheel off to wheel back on. It only takes about another 5 - 10 minutes to mark and cut off the end of the spring with a cut off wheel! Do NOT use a torch!

The rear shocks took less than 30 min. each wheel off to wheel back on.

[Blackened300a]

I also heard it took a certain Mavis employee 5 hours to align the thing? :confused:

[Krytin]

I also heard it took a certain Mavis employee 5 hours to align the thing? :confused:
I was home asleep put they got the alignment right for the first time in the history of the car!

[Blackened300a]

Tommy called me wondering how come your rear air suspension wasn't coming up. I assume the rear was as low as it would go.

[Krytin]

Tommy called me wondering how come your rear air suspension wasn't coming up. I assume the rear was as low as it would go.
Yep! I might bring it up just a hair because the front is a little higher now since the gas shock installation.
By the way the KYB's have part specific shocks for the Marauder - different PN's than CV/GM/TC #'s. They really are better than the QA-1's even when they were new!

[JBeezy]

I believe the removal is kinda like this:
1. Jack up the car, put it on jackstands, remove front wheels.
2. Remove brake calipers & rotors.
3. Disconnect sway bar end links and upper ball joint.
4. Remove lower bolt.
5. Remove 3 upper nuts.
6. Press down on control arm while wiggling shock/spring assembly out.

Then you'll need spring compressors to take the springs off the coilovers and reinstall them.


I didnt remove the calipers at all. Just took the lower joint loose and shock then had my buddy press it the arm down while I removed the spring. Pretty easy.

Only thing is I cut 1 coil and mine is still sitting at the same height :eek: