wanting to mod my vic

[1320ft]

i have a 98 cvpi . i want to know what mods i can do to keep up with the mm? i wanna do a conversion into a mm but not all the way. any help will do

[Spectragod]

Sell it and buy a MM, prices have dropped, it would be cheaper to replace the car, That is unless you HAVE to have a sleeper Vic.

[SC Cheesehead]

i have a 98 cvpi . i want to know what mods i can do to keep up with the mm? i wanna do a conversion into a mm but not all the way. any help will do


JATO rockets...

[TAKEDOWN]

Sell it and buy a MM, prices have dropped, it would be cheaper to replace the car, That is unless you HAVE to have a sleeper Vic.
... I have both and would have to agree. Sell it and get a MARAUDER!

[1320ft]

yeah i kinda wanted to have a sleeper and its paid for. i want to somethings little by little. my real idea is a turbo system and tub the rear out with big tires just to do something different. i think i would turn heads and still will be able to take the family with me. more for looks than for speed. but power would be there just in case i needed milk at the last min. lol.

[breeze]

guy at my job has a 02 vic and swares he has a chip and will smoke me.lol

[BAD MERC]

You're gonna have $15,000 into a $2,500 car. Then if something happens to it - you're out the whole "investment".

[SVT_MERC]

Swap out your engine for a 4 valve one, or at least upgrade your engine to the newer PI heads.

[SVT_MERC]

guy at my job has a 02 vic and swares he has a chip and will smoke me.lol


Yeah, he's lying.... I ad a chip on my '02, along wit Marauder MAF, airbox and a PI zip tube. Dual exhaust w/o cats and H-pipe, and 3:73 posi in the rear. With all that I was turning time slips in the 15.0's and 14.9's.... stock MM numbers. So a stock 2V with just a chip won't come close to spanking a Marauder.

[Cheeseheadbob]

Buy mine. It's close and it's very fast...:burnout:

[Pops]

You're gonna have $15,000 into a $2,500 car. Then if something happens to it - you're out the whole "investment".

This is the best quote in this thread. I doubt you can do it for 15k with what your want list is. Buy a Marauder and you still have a great sleeper! I have done a lot of your ideas and it cost much more than your projections. Check the Michigan forum and look for the SC Grand Marquis threads for ideas.

[ctrlraven]

Yeah when it comes down to it, buying a Marauder is the best option otherwise you will dump a lot of money into the CV.

If you are hell bent on modding it then I would suggest
PI head swap
High flow intake
Tune (which will require you to start running 93 octane)
maybe 3000 stall torque converter
3.73 gears

A good site that sells CV stuff is http://adtr.net/

[Egon Spengler]

If you bought a Marauder, that would be something different! I am always getting looks and compliments everywhere I go!

[k9cinco]

I have a 98 cv, Put a 04 marauder engine in, made my own program...322 hp shifts at 6300 rpms. turned 1431 in the 1/4. Now just picked up two turbos and getting ready to make the turbo headers..I will soon be pushing over 520 hp in a 98 vic....Dont let anyone tell you it cant be done....Im into 4000.00 total in upgrades and still going...Not many car gonna keep up for that price ...not even a MM...LOL

[SC Cheesehead]

I have a 98 cv, Put a 04 marauder engine in, made my own program...322 hp shifts at 6300 rpms. turned 1431 in the 1/4. Now just picked up two turbos and getting ready to make the turbo headers..I will soon be pushing over 520 hp in a 98 vic....Dont let anyone tell you it cant be done....Im into 4000.00 total in upgrades and still going...Not many car gonna keep up for that price ...not even a MM...LOL

The $4,000 include the turbos?

[bob6364]

I have a 98 cv, Put a 04 marauder engine in, made my own program...322 hp shifts at 6300 rpms. turned 1431 in the 1/4. Now just picked up two turbos and getting ready to make the turbo headers..I will soon be pushing over 520 hp in a 98 vic....Dont let anyone tell you it cant be done....Im into 4000.00 total in upgrades and still going...Not many car gonna keep up for that price ...not even a MM...LOL

Geeze...don't be an ass... if you only have 4k into the car with that much HP then YOU obviously have the know how and tools to do it all yourself.Just by coming on here and asking the question the OP did tells me this fella doesn't have 1 or the other.
Do you ever see Zack or Dennis or Brian come on here and say"Well guys I have a brick and I want to make it go 10 sec's what will I need?" of course not...they already know and so do I and so do you,on the other hand this fella doesn't no insult to the OP intended.

[justbob]

yeah i kinda wanted to have a sleeper and its paid for. i want to somethings little by little. my real idea is a turbo system and tub the rear out with big tires just to do something different. i think i would turn heads and still will be able to take the family with me. more for looks than for speed. but power would be there just in case i needed milk at the last min. lol.
Could you elaborate? Sorry you lost me somewhere.

[k9cinco]

The $4,000 include the turbos?

Yes, the 4.6 4v requires the 2 turbo's to be .48 a/r to .50 a/r....Volvo turbo's fit that requirement. Found 2 volvo turbos for 150.00 with no end play or shaft movement... The turbo's will be fitted up shortly, install some bigger injector and reprogram the ecm with my laptop to accommodate...I will keep ya posted

[Pops]

So this is fabbing up with used parts. Good luck with the mods!

[Blackened300a]

Yes, the 4.6 4v requires the 2 turbo's to be .48 a/r to .50 a/r....Volvo turbo's fit that requirement. Found 2 volvo turbos for 150.00 with no end play or shaft movement... The turbo's will be fitted up shortly, install some bigger injector and reprogram the ecm with my laptop to accommodate...I will keep ya posted

Yeah and add fuel pump to that. plus intercooler piping, tapping the pan for oil, etc.... There are quite a few things that need to be added to your list.

[1320ft]

Could you elaborate? Sorry you lost me somewhere.
i want something that looks good. do u know how many cars i have seen that have big tires under them and will barely run low 13's. its more looks and sound than anything . i actually want mine to work. and turbos arent that noticable especially in the exhaust

[babbage]

I have a 98 cv, Put a 04 marauder engine in, made my own program...322 hp shifts at 6300 rpms. turned 1431 in the 1/4. Now just picked up two turbos and getting ready to make the turbo headers..I will soon be pushing over 520 hp in a 98 vic....Dont let anyone tell you it cant be done....Im into 4000.00 total in upgrades and still going...Not many car gonna keep up for that price ...not even a MM...LOL


Pics or it doesn't exist? :burnout:Heck I read your other post about the turbos. Make some kits up and sell them here. If they work that well I'd be interested as well as others...

[babbage]

i want something that looks good. do u know how many cars i have seen that have big tires under them and will barely run low 13's. its more looks and sound than anything . i actually want mine to work. and turbos arent that noticable especially in the exhaust


Barely low 13's huh - thats pretty respectable. What big tire cars have you seen running low 13's

[justbob]

I think he meant wide, but thats quite the oppossite of a sleeper?

A sleeper is my friends 67 corvair quiet big block front conversion, tube frame, street car or his datsun 210 small block chevy, tube frame, sporting hub caps, car. Yes, he is a welder by trade for Caterpillar and builds frames on the weekends. Those are sleepers, and you wouldn't notice them from any other car on the road.

Build your turbo set up, make it work efficiently, have it dyno'ed and track tested. Come back when you have a product and I promise you buyer's if it works.

[BAD MERC]

I am at a complete loss for words... but I have my share of opinions. Think I will go for a drive in my rare sunroofed '04 Marauder and keep them to myself.

[k9cinco]

I will post the pics of the vic shortly, Here is my 36 ford I built a few years ago... I do clean work.

[LeoVampire]

I will post the pics of the vic shortly, Here is my 36 ford I built a few years ago... I do clean work.

But much easier with something like that vs the car's now a day's because of the law's that govern them vs an old timmer like that Ford were you can get away with a lot more and still be legal.

;)

[k9cinco]

Your car looks sweeet...love the valve covers

[n00bkiller944]

Who said volvo turbos? I have volvo turbos!!! Who wants to buy them :P

[k9cinco]

Here is the 98 vic with the 04 MM motor b4 the upcoming twin turbo transformation

[musclemerc]

OK, I'd like to side with Bob here and say you're the exception to the rule! You should chime in more often and cool out a little. Your a very talented guy and i'm sure your assistance can help alot of member's here. Good work!

[k9cinco]

Actually, the members here have helped me iron out issues with the motor swap wiring and other things. This is a great forum. I enjoy a taking on a challenge a overcoming difficulties to see the end result. Its always a work in progress no matter what it is ...lol

[k9cinco]

Well, finally got around to taking the car apart. No room in the engine bay for both turbo's (made the exhaust manifolds and all but cant get the exhaust to return to the cats without losing the A/C- Not an option) so decided to put them in place of the mufflers. Both turbo's are mounted and now fitting up the oil return pump and making the intake piping...Found a huge 25" x15" intercooler that fits between the rad support mounts...Looks bad....also has a 3" inlet and outlet. perfect for the intake piping... I will post pics asap

[bawazir]

Here is the 98 vic with the 04 MM motor b4 the upcoming twin turbo transformation

I believe the interior is a marauder swap, but the motor? hummm???
can you take a picture zooming out that show the motor swap as well your car in one picture?

[MMBLUE]

Well, finally got around to taking the car apart. No room in the engine bay for both turbo's (made the exhaust manifolds and all but cant get the exhaust to return to the cats without losing the A/C- Not an option) so decided to put them in place of the mufflers. Both turbo's are mounted and now fitting up the oil return pump and making the intake piping...Found a huge 25" x15" intercooler that fits between the rad support mounts...Looks bad....also has a 3" inlet and outlet. perfect for the intake piping... I will post pics asap
Sounds good. I am curious about the outcome, can't wait. You should start your own thread on this.

[k9cinco]

:woohoo:heres some updated pics...almost done and ready to put her back together

[ImpalaSlayer]

id be interested to see what kinda driveability this thing has with teh turbos so far away. would be fun to add a pair of those of to the eaton though :hmmm:

[ctrlraven]

I'd say go for it if you have a forged motor since it will be able to handle all of the boost, Eaton for the low end and turbos for the high end.

[ImpalaSlayer]

I'd say go for it if you have a forged motor since it will be able to handle all of the boost, Eaton for the low end and turbos for the high end.

thats what im thinking, the eaton will make up for the lag. but i dont wana hijack this guys thread.

[ctrlraven]

Too late for that anyways lol

[boatmangc]

Open the radiator cap, back the car out and pull a Marauder back underneath it, voila' runs like a Marauder

[k9cinco]

All done, I will be testing it out this weekend...just burned a tune for the larger injectors and upgrades. We will see how she runs...From the tests I have done so far ...looks like the turbo's start spooling between 1800-2200 rpm's...perfect for early spooling... Have them set up so one turbo starts spooling at 1800 and other kicking in at 2200-2300 so it shouldn't get too crazy with replacing the sneakers..lol

[twin03]

All done, I will be testing it out this weekend...just burned a tune for the larger injectors and upgrades. We will see how she runs...From the tests I have done so far ...looks like the turbo's start spooling between 1800-2200 rpm's...perfect for early spooling... Have them set up so one turbo starts spooling at 1800 and other kicking in at 2200-2300 so it shouldn't get too crazy with replacing the sneakers..lol
:eek:Wow. It looks great. Can you do a video and put it on youtube?

[k9cinco]

Sorry it took soooo long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt2opFyDOI&layer_token=4e90b8a866c2f5a7

[W4LTD]

How about a video of the car in action? How much loss is there with the remote mounted turbo vs. the engine bay mounted turbo? Difference between a supercharger and turbo as far as horsepower gain as well as cost?

[crownvic97]

bump for progress!