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Midnight
04-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Well, im at 96K miles... and starting to think about how my engine is doing... and realized that i have never changed the engine coils...
what is the intervals of this change? and is it indeed necessary to do so?
i went to rockauto.com, and its a tad confusing... is cyinder 1,2 different coils from the rest? because rockauto sure does position it that way..
if anyone else has any tuneup tips, let me know.
Ktorres1
04-11-2010, 11:13 PM
If there not giving you any problems I would say your good. Some here have reported stock coils well over 100,000 miles, 1&2 are different and most of the guys here simply reccomend granatelli steel connectors in exchange of the stock coil wire spring. I have had coil problems and believe me its something you can feel!
fastblackmerc
04-12-2010, 04:19 AM
If there not giving you any problems I would say your good. Some here have reported stock coils well over 100,000 miles, 1&2 are different and most of the guys here simply reccomend granatelli steel connectors in exchange of the stock coil wire spring. I have had coil problems and believe me its something you can feel!
+1.
Only need to change them if there is a problem.
Highly recommend the Granatelli coil connectors.
greggash
04-12-2010, 04:24 AM
I had running and idle problems caused by numerous bad coils
I put in a set of 8 ACCEL coils purchased from summit
Part number 140034-8
this made a huge difference, smooth idle..more power...etc
I did my coils at 80K
FordNut
04-12-2010, 05:24 AM
i went to rockauto.com, and its a tad confusing... is cyinder 1,2 different coils from the rest?
Never heard of such a thing.
Marauderjack
04-12-2010, 05:32 AM
213,3xx miles on my OEM's with Granatelli connectors and not a single hic-up!!! :beer: :bows:
rayjay
04-12-2010, 06:27 AM
Are you talking the wires or coil packs? I too have the Granatelli's and like them, but they are the wires, not the coil packs.
musclemerc
04-12-2010, 06:32 AM
If your not throwing a CEL then the coils are fine. If your swapping them just to do something you may be surprised just how good the stock coils are. If you want to just improve the coil set up get some LFP coil connectors, they are alot cheaper than the GMS and are the same quality.
Marauderjack
04-12-2010, 06:33 AM
Just the connectors that replace the "Springy Thingies" Ford put in!!:D
rayjay
04-12-2010, 06:36 AM
Just the connectors that replace the "Springy Thingies" Ford put in!!:D
Yep, no comparison between the OEM ballpoint pen springs and the aftermarkets.
Blackened300a
04-12-2010, 06:36 AM
If you want to just improve the coil set up get some LFP coil connectors, they are alot cheaper than the GMS and are the same quality.
+1 I been running the LFP coil connectors for a while, they are $50 cheaper then the GMS and look and perform identical.
greggash
04-12-2010, 06:39 AM
If your not throwing a CEL then the coils are fine. If your swapping them just to do something you may be surprised just how good the stock coils are. If you want to just improve the coil set up get some LFP coil connectors, they are alot cheaper than the GMS and are the same quality.
My Car was just running very wierd, surging idle...not alot of power.......
and there was NO CEL light.....that would have taken forever to show a CEL light....maybe a dead coil will show a CEL but intermittent does not
musclemerc
04-12-2010, 06:42 AM
I've seen bad coils with an intermittent pulse throw a CEL as a mis-fire on the cylinder good Sir. All cases are diffrent so it does'nt mean i'm right or your wrong.
Spectragod
04-12-2010, 08:24 AM
There is a threshold of misfires that needs to occur before a CEL will come on. Also, keep in mind, that at idle the coils fire 3 times, as opposed to running at speed, when they only fire 1 time.
Midnight
04-12-2010, 11:43 AM
Well, im feeling a lack of power recently... i lay down the accelerator, and it doesn't matter where i put my foot... the car just doesn't move... the car does have a sweet spot... where theirs not too much air, not too much fuel, and you ride the pedal into that..... but thats slow coming...
i have changed my spark plugs before, and two coils have gone bad.. 6,7 if not mistaken.
but, if someone knew of a good upgrade, fairly inexpensive. id pursue it...
also, maybe i could use a tune too.
SmokdMercRauder
04-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Greggash is right..If you have driveability problems and the coils are suspect it doesn't always set the mil light..As far as which coils wire/connectors idk haven't been down that path yet...If theres a problem with the coils many symptoms may occur..like the hic-ups that were stated as(bucking) mainly under a certain load esp going up hills. All the coils are the same..what exactly are you refering to??
greggash
04-12-2010, 11:58 AM
my set of accel coils was $198
musclemerc
04-12-2010, 01:38 PM
If your 100% it's the coils I can get you some used under 5000mi OEM coils for $75.00 shipped and brand new OEM take off's for $100.00 shipped
Midnight
04-15-2010, 10:14 PM
yeah, i think im going to invest in the coils.. i see a little hesitation... and a "wooping" when in gear, light accelleration.
Blackmobile
04-15-2010, 10:25 PM
Yeah, a new set of coils would do you good down here in So Fla. The heat down here and the engine heat beats up the coils at about 100k miles.
Midnight
04-15-2010, 11:09 PM
Yeah, a new set of coils would do you good down here in So Fla. The heat down here and the engine heat beats up the coils at about 100k miles.
truth, truth.... and i think im feeling it...
Operation Marauder Restore continues...
Midnight
04-15-2010, 11:14 PM
Yeah, a new set of coils would do you good down here in So Fla. The heat down here and the engine heat beats up the coils at about 100k miles.
i appreciate everyones offers of used/pulled coils....
has anyone worked with any high quality coils... or maybe... let me rephrase that... Best coils price:quality ratio?
used coils... are used for a reason... IMPO. and would like to put new parts on the car, to ensure trouble free service.
since.. i cannot buy a new car... because everything on the market does not live up to the Mercury Marauder standards.
and i think everyone should visit my "interesting inquiry" post... and send a letter to ford...
musclemerc
04-16-2010, 11:49 AM
You gotta few choices. Granatelli, MSD, and Accell for coils. Granatelli and LFP for connectors. All are good the Accell's are the cheapest.
Taemian
04-16-2010, 11:53 AM
You gotta few choices. Granatelli, MSD, and Accell for coils. Granatelli and LFP for connectors. All are good the Accell's are the cheapest.
LFP connectors? Link please!
Midnight
04-16-2010, 11:54 AM
yeah, got any sites you have done business with?
musclemerc
04-16-2010, 12:04 PM
LFP connectors? Link please!
Here you go: http://www.lightningforceperformance. com/Granatelli_HIGH_OUTPUT_Coil_On _Plug_Connectors_4_Valve.html
Same quality as the Granatelli at a lower cost. :burnout:
justbob
04-16-2010, 12:14 PM
is cyinder 1,2 different coils from the rest?
1&2 are different
Never heard of this.
RF Overlord
04-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Me either....explain?
Taemian
04-16-2010, 09:20 PM
Here you go: http://www.lightningforceperformance. com/Granatelli_HIGH_OUTPUT_Coil_On _Plug_Connectors_4_Valve.html
Same quality as the Granatelli at a lower cost. :burnout:
Thanks, but is there ever a TON of arguments about this product on various Ford sites.
Midnight
04-16-2010, 11:00 PM
what are these connectors? these dont look like the same coils... where do these go...
wheres my sign? DERP.
musclemerc
04-17-2010, 05:58 AM
Thanks, but is there ever a TON of arguments about this product on various Ford sites.
I've had good luck with them. Did you see the Mfg? it's Granatelli.
Midnight
04-17-2010, 10:13 AM
yeah, i still dont know what those things do.... they dont look like the coils i see..
justbob
04-17-2010, 10:18 AM
They emit a better, stronger signal from the coil pack itself. They replace the spring with solid connectors, also I hear that they really help keep walking plugs seated.
Midnight
04-17-2010, 12:09 PM
ohhhhhh so you buy new coils... then take out the spring and replace them with those...
musclemerc
04-17-2010, 01:21 PM
Ding,Ding,Ding...... That's why their called coil on plug connectors. Sheesh!
tbone
04-17-2010, 02:24 PM
The other day my car was running slightly rough. Turned her off and then started again. Problem gone. Intermittent coil problem??? Something else????
LeoVampire
04-17-2010, 02:31 PM
The other day my car was running slightly rough. Turned her off and then started again. Problem gone. Intermittent coil problem??? Something else????
had any rain latley where moister or water could have been a factor underneath the coil covers?
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