Heavy Brake Dust

[Egon Spengler]

Hey Guys,
I am getting a good amount of brake dust on my front left wheel. All the other wheels get what I would call "normal" accumulation, but the front left seems to be getting it rather rapidly. The car rolls beautifully when the brakes are released and notice no dogging, but could I have a caliper hanging up?

Thanks guys!:beer:

[Mr. Man]

I take there isn't anything sticky on just that wheel, sap, grease etc.

[RoyLPita]

Check the caliper slides.

[Egon Spengler]

Wheels were all waxed and are all in the same condition

I have checked the slides and sanded the caliper bracket down to get all the rust out of there. I have also done a brake job within the last year.

[LeoVampire]

jack up the front end of the car.

Give each wheel a spin for starters and see how they feel.

Then go inside and apply the brakes and release them and have someone or yourself give the tires a spin again to see if the problem child is hanging up or releasing like the other one evenly.

If you find the one wheel is hanging up take that wheel off and with gloves incase it is hot grab the caliper and see if you can slide it back and forth fairly easy.

If you can slide it with ease then your looking at either a hose problem or a piston hang up.

Open the top of the master then open the bleeder on the caliper and see if a nice steady flow of fluid is comming out the bleeder. If it does then chances are the caliper needs to be R&R'd.
If there is no flow or just a dripping once in a while then the hose is probably the culprit.

Not worth doing just the one caliper because that side will then operate better than the other and may give you a pull once it is changed when applying the brakes.

If the slides do not move easily take the caliper off clean the slides up and use slide lubricant for reassembly.

[Egon Spengler]

When I got into my accident the auto body shop fixed my car and when I brought the car home, I transferred my snow tires over to my marauder wheels and when I did this I noticed that the brake line was twisted, so I took the caliper off and untwisted it and put everything back together. That is probably what the problem is! Thank you sir, am going to have to look into that!

jack up the front end of the car.

Give each wheel a spin for starters and see how they feel.

Then go inside and apply the brakes and release them and have someone or yourself give the tires a spin again to see if the problem child is hanging up or releasing like the other one evenly.

If you find the one wheel is hanging up take that wheel off and with gloves incase it is hot grab the caliper and see if you can slide it back and forth fairly easy.

If you can slide it with ease then your looking at either a hose problem or a piston hang up.

Open the top of the master then open the bleeder on the caliper and see if a nice steady flow of fluid is comming out the bleeder. If it does then chances are the caliper needs to be R&R'd.
If there is no flow or just a dripping once in a while then the hose is probably the culprit.

Not worth doing just the one caliper because that side will then operate better than the other and may give you a pull once it is changed when applying the brakes.

If the slides do not move easily take the caliper off clean the slides up and use slide lubricant for reassembly.

[LeoVampire]

De Nada

always a chance you can forget something down the line so it's best to pick the brain of others and ask like you did.

[Egon Spengler]

De Nada

always a chance you can forget something down the line so it's best to pick the brain of others and ask like you did.
Yeah, definitely... Now Mr Vampire... How hard is it to replace the line? I know I should do the SS lines, but I just want to fix with OEM for now. If you can give me some direction that would be great. Also, what should I ask for when looking for the part? Is there a part number or what the hell would I call the short length going to the caliper?

[LeoVampire]

Keep the cap on the master till it is done to slow down the fluid loss.

spray the end where the hard line goes into it with a bit of penitrating fluid before you get the hose so it will spin on the line without twisting the line just make sure it dosn't twist the hard line.

most new hoses come with a new banjo bolt for the caliper and crush washers.

Make sure it is a hose for an ABS system. And after market should be fine.

[Egon Spengler]

Can I go to my FLAPS and get it? If so, what should I ask for?

[LeoVampire]

Can I go to my FLAPS and get it? If so, what should I ask for?

Caliper brake hose for your car and the side you want it for.

And what is (FLAPS)?

[Egon Spengler]

And what is (FLAPS)?

Just found out recently that it stands for "Friendly Local Auto Parts Store"

[LeoVampire]

Just found out recently that it stands for "Friendly Local Auto Parts Store"

Okay got ya now.

Autozone said $30.00 for each on the front. @ that price I would do them both at the same time.

[Egon Spengler]

Okay got ya now.

Autozone said $30.00 for each on the front. @ that price I would do them both at the same time.
Excellent! Thank you! On a 1-5 difficulty scale for a mechanically inclined person, how hard is this job? Estimated time to complete?

[justbob]

Mechanically inclined or you TJ?

[LeoVampire]

Excellent! Thank you! On a 1-5 difficulty scale for a mechanically inclined person, how hard is this job? Estimated time to complete?

They are side specific so make sure you put the right one on the right side.

Slide locking clips can be a pita sometimes comming out they like to rust in place. Don't cross thread the hard line nor over tighten the banjo bolt or you will have problems.

Bleeding just don't let the master run out of fluid @ ALL!! after they are on open up the bleeders on the calipers and let them run new fluid through the front till it is clean comming out just keep the master up to the full line. You should not have to pressure bleed the front's.

Keep a pan under them so not to get it all over the driveway hazerdous waste and will eat tar eventualy.

And are you shure it's the line and not the caliper?

[Egon Spengler]

They are side specific so make sure you put the right one on the right side.

Slide locking clips can be a pita sometimes comming out they like to rust in place. Don't cross thread the hard line nor over tighten the banjo bolt or you will have problems.

Bleeding just don't let the master run out of fluid @ ALL!! after they are on open up the bleeders on the calipers and let them run new fluid through the front till it is clean comming out just keep the master up to the full line. You should not have to pressure bleed the front's.

Keep a pan under them so not to get it all over the driveway hazerdous waste and will eat tar eventualy.

And are you shure it's the line and not the caliper?
It has to be, because that line was twisted pretty good and I never had any issues until after my accident and only on that side with the twisted line. And that side of the car wasn't effected by the accident, but the had to remove it to work on the front so they turn the caliper a full 360 degrees and put it on with the line twisted.

[justbob]

Sorry Leo, i've seen bleeding done your way with mixed results. TJ go buy a $4.00 one man bleeder kit. I can do my hole car in under 10 minutes by myself (after the tires are off).

[LeoVampire]

just use common sence in what your doing and do a side at a time and you should be fine.

[LeoVampire]

Sorry Leo, i've seen bleeding done your way with mixed results. TJ go buy a $4.00 one man bleeder kit. I can do my hole car in under 10 minutes by myself (after the tires are off).

I have both a vacume and pressure bleeder and usualy use that to speed up the process but seeing this is his first time I doubt he has something like that.

[Egon Spengler]

Thanks guys. I will most likely do this over the weekend. I will let you know the results... If I am alive to tell about it! haha

[Bluerauder]

Did you swap out the OEM brake pads?

I've still got the original OEM pads on after 70,000 miles and I haven't had a brake dust problem at all in nearly 7 years. And, there's still good life in those pads.

[LeoVampire]

Thanks guys. I will most likely do this over the weekend. I will let you know the results... If I am alive to tell about it! haha

There are a lot of Marauder guys in Mass why not hook up with one who is a mechanic and let him show you and or help you out?

[Egon Spengler]

There are a lot of Marauder guys in Mass why not hook up with one who is a mechanic and let him show you and or help you out?
I do all my work in my dad's friend's barn and I am going to do it while he is home and have him help me out. He is VERY knowledgeable to say the least about these things

[LeoVampire]

I do all my work in my dad's friend's barn and I am going to do it while he is home and have him help me out. He is VERY knowledgeable to say the least about these things

Cool you just seemed very unsure of yourself with that other post so rather see you have a watcher to make sure all is well.

[Egon Spengler]

Cool you just seemed very unsure of yourself with that other post so rather see you have a watcher to make sure all is well.
I tend to think the worst, then when I get started I usually breeze through it and say "That wasn't so bad"... I like it better that way, than starting a job thinking I will breeze through it and wind up having problems! I have done plenty of calipers, pad, and rotor replacements, just never a brake line. I am sure I will be able to handle it ok.

[LeoVampire]

If I was still living in Mass I would say come on over and lets get it done.

But ya it isn't all that hard a job going into it with some common sence.

[RF Overlord]

I found this thread very interesting as I just had the same issue with Phoebe...left front wheel burned through pads way too soon and scored up the rotor. Wheel was definitely dragging pretty badly, although there was no pull in the steering wheel when braking. I tried all the usual suspects and just last Sunday I noticed while putting on new rotors and pads that the hose was just like TJ's...had a loop in it. Must have happened when a local mechanic replaced the calipers about a year ago (it was an emergency...Bunny was late for a meeting in Cow Hampshire). I spun the caliper 360° and put it all back together...walla! No more drag!

[bawazir]

Hey Guys,
I am getting a good amount of brake dust on my front left wheel. All the other wheels get what I would call "normal" accumulation, but the front left seems to be getting it rather rapidly. The car rolls beautifully when the brakes are released and notice no dogging, but could I have a caliper hanging up?

Thanks guys!:beer:


I have the same problem too my driver side are freaking super dusty, Glad someone open this subject :alone:

[Egon Spengler]

I found this thread very interesting as I just had the same issue with Phoebe...left front wheel burned through pads way too soon and scored up the rotor. Wheel was definitely dragging pretty badly, although there was no pull in the steering wheel when braking. I tried all the usual suspects and just last Sunday I noticed while putting on new rotors and pads that the hose was just like TJ's...had a loop in it. Must have happened when a local mechanic replaced the calipers about a year ago (it was an emergency...Bunny was late for a meeting in Cow Hampshire). I spun the caliper 360° and put it all back together...walla! No more drag!
Mine still does it though, even with the loop taken out of it. Must have obstructed the flow somehow. Just going to replace the lines and hope I am ok!

[musclemerc]

Maybe you should consider TCE SS lines.



Mine still does it though, even with the loop taken out of it. Must have obstructed the flow somehow. Just going to replace the lines and hope I am ok!

[LeoVampire]

Maybe you should consider TCE SS lines.

Even though I love braided lines and have them the fact you can not use a line clamp on them to change out a caliper still bugs me a bit.

But I agree it would be the best way to go but seeing he was talking about pricing I don't think he wants to spend that cash right now.

[musclemerc]

Well in that case TJ I have a set of stock lines in perfect working condition shoot me a PM you pay to ship!