why does every one have a cobra radar

[slickster]

:shake:. i know there cheap and look good but if ur not goona do your homework on it and just give 150 200 i gave 200 for a valintine on craigslist. get a valintine 1 if not a passport or escort. and another thing mounting a radar low on your dash is bad for reception if you cant get a visor clip that is an opiton with the valintine 1 its hard to see from outside the car best reception and does not bake in the sun then just mount it high. ps the best thing about the v1 is you can update it even 10 years from now when ever anything else come up new radar bands or whatever just send it to v1 for a small fee and you got a new radar

[duhtroll]

Cobras are not worth the powder to blow them up.

Once again, the Valentine 1 is NOT the best RD out there.

Read for yourselves:

www.radardetector.net

www.guysoflidar.com

[slickster]

Cobras are not worth the powder to blow them up.

Once again, the Valentine 1 is NOT the best RD out there.

Read for yourselves:

www.radardetector.net (http://www.radardetector.net)

www.guysoflidar.com (http://www.guysoflidar.com) guys of lidar test show the v1 was best in every test.?:flamer:

[justbob]

My whistler cost $80 brand new 8 YEARS AGO. It has saved my butt from hundreds of tickets. Infact, I have only had one ticket since, and that was because it was in my other car... Expensive does not allways mean the best. As with any detector, especially cheap, the biggest problem is false alarms. Yes, it does throw off more than i'd like, but better to be too sensitive than be not sensitive, it's all in the filtering.

I know you are reffering to Cobras, but I also figured you meant cheap.

BTW, It resides on my dash, never once been a problem.

[guspech750]

I dont have a RD. Never have. Never will.:D

[gdsqdcr]

I dont have a RD. Never have. Never will.:D



I'm with you. Tuesday my family and I are leaving on a 5000 mile road trip. I have no radar detector, no GPS Device and no DVD player for the three boys. I plan on drivig at 75 the whole way. I figure I don't need a radar detector because if I am driving fast, it should be on a track and I should be paying attention to who is around. GPS, I have a map. DVD player, the kids can talk, read signs and learn about where we are going.

My thoughts ...
Anthony

[guspech750]

I'm with you. Tuesday my family and I are leaving on a 5000 mile road trip. I have no radar detector, no GPS Device and no DVD player for the three boys. I plan on drivig at 75 the whole way. I figure I don't need a radar detector because if I am driving fast, it should be on a track and I should be paying attention to who is around. GPS, I have a map. DVD player, the kids can talk, read signs and learn about where we are going.

My thoughts ...
Anthony
I could not agree more. My GPS is my brain, rarely has failed me and my daughter doent not have to watch movies in the car. Thats what our home is for.

[gdsqdcr]

I dont have a RD. Never have. Never will.:D



I'm with you. Tuesday my family and I are leaving on a 5000 mile road trip. I have no radar detector, no GPS Device and no DVD player for the three boys. I plan on drivig at 75 the whole way. I figure I don't need a radar detector because if I am driving fast, it should be on a track and I should be paying attention to who is around. GPS, I have a map. DVD player, the kids can talk, read signs and learn about where we are going.

My thoughts ...
Anthony

[tbone]

My Cobra works fine. Always goes off when needed. Whatever.

[ctrlraven]

I have a Escort Passport 8500 Blue that's been re-calibrated once since I bought it and still works great.

[Mr. Man]

DTR's and DPB's go to slow to even need a radar detector:D

[burt ragio]

My last radar detector self destructed after it failed by means a radar gun. Just after you know what... at 80 mph it just jumped out the drivers side window.

[boatmangc]

I have a V1.
I have a GPS
I have a DVD
I have an iPod
I have Bluetooth
I drive over 85.
If you drive in south Florida and don't drive at least 80 on the highway you are a hazard.
At 85 it is best to have your GPS turn down your iPod and tell you where to go.

[Spectragod]

DTR's and DPB's go to slow to even need a radar detector:D

Yep, no radar in the DTR, I do have a V1 for it, never put it in, got a badge americard that works better than any detector.

Any idea what I should do to make the DTR quicker?:P

[Joe Walsh]

I've had a Valentine ever since they first came out 14-15 years ago...it has paid for itself many, many times!
I do have to check out the new laser jamming devices...:hmmm:

[Red91LX]

Any idea what I should do to make the DTR quicker?:P

Sure...repaint it! ;)

[-Matt-]

I'm with you. Tuesday my family and I are leaving on a 5000 mile road trip. I have no radar detector, no GPS Device and no DVD player for the three boys. I plan on drivig at 75 the whole way. I figure I don't need a radar detector because if I am driving fast, it should be on a track and I should be paying attention to who is around. GPS, I have a map. DVD player, the kids can talk, read signs and learn about where we are going.

My thoughts ...
Anthony


Your boring...

[Phrog_gunner]

You're boring...

But anyway, back on topic. Has anyone used the Veil G4 stuff you "paint" on your headlight lens/front license plate that supposedly kills the reflectivity and therefore the laser return from your vehicle??

[guspech750]

Your boring...
????????????? Eh.

[Spectragod]

But anyway, back on topic. Has anyone used the Veil G4 stuff you "paint" on your headlight lens/front license plate that supposedly kills the reflectivity and therefore the laser return from your vehicle??

I haven't used it, I did read that it didn't work well in an application where is was used on in a magazine article test.

There are other ways to jam laser, since it is not FCC regulated, the sky is the limit.

[Spectragod]

Sure...repaint it! ;)


Hmmmm, so what, purple with a chicken skin interior and some yellow 26" wheels?

[Phrog_gunner]

I haven't used it, I did read that it didn't work well in an application where is was used on in a magazine article test.

There are other ways to jam laser, since it is not FCC regulated, the sky is the limit.

And an active jammer isn't considered "interference with law enforcement" or some stuff like that? Of course I would only use something like this in Mexico.

[scruff]

i have a beltronics STI Driver this is the only RD to have if you live in Canada its undetectable and is also top of the line right up there with the best i think it is the best available today

[-Matt-]

????????????? Eh.


No movies on a long trip like that for a kid? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[guspech750]

No movies on a long trip like that for a kid? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Gotcha........................ ......

[-Matt-]

Gotcha........................ ......


And who uses maps anyways!?!?!?!

[duhtroll]

Yeah, against the OLD radar detectors.

There are remote mount units from Escort and Bel (now pretty much the same company) that put the V1 to shame.

And jamming laser is not illegal unless the state specifically mentions them in the law. Laser is not governed by the FCC as stated earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ10Q9QPwxE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyuw10XAJAI




guys of lidar test show the v1 was best in every test.?:flamer:

[ImpalaSlayer]

i hate radar detectors. know where and when to speed and you wont ever have a problem.

[gdsqdcr]

Your boring...

Yep!

Boring all right. The kids have to learn how to survive with out all the toys and movies and other distractions. I am a cruel parent. The plan is to make them talk to me, and for me to show them the country I am proud of. Also to teach vocabulary, geography and how to read a map!

I work search and rescue operations. I can not count the number of times so
someones GPS failed, cloud overage/dead battery and they could not figure out what to do because they could not read a map.

No worries on my part, I smiled at your statement. No offense taken.
:beer: :D

Thanks!
Anthony

[Red91LX]

Hmmmm, so what, purple with a chicken skin interior and some yellow 26" wheels?

Exactly!!:D

[-Matt-]

Yep!

Boring all right. The kids have to learn how to survive with out all the toys and movies and other distractions. I am a cruel parent. The plan is to make them talk to me, and for me to show them the country I am proud of. Also to teach vocabulary, geography and how to read a map!

I work search and rescue operations. I can not count the number of times so
someones GPS failed, cloud overage/dead battery and they could not figure out what to do because they could not read a map.

No worries on my part, I smiled at your statement. No offense taken.
:beer: :D

Thanks!
Anthony


Im glad you saw the sarcasm. :beer:

[boatmangc]

Yep, no radar in the DTR, I do have a V1 for it, never put it in, got a badge americard that works better than any detector.

Any idea what I should do to make the DTR quicker?:P

Sell me the V1 for $100 and it will be lighter:lol:

[LOWBUCKMM]

i have always used cobra detectors. never failed me and have saved my ass many times. i have the best cobra detector out right now i think. i can do up dates on line it displays my speed, car voltage, and it lets me know about red light cameras to. so i dont know whats wrong with running cobra's. they are the best bang for your buck detectors out now.

[boatmangc]

There is also another item I use locally, it is the Trapster app for iPhone
I only use the V1 for long hauls, same with GPS.
I bought my V! in 98 and have upgraded twice.
I ran Escorts prior.

[tbone]

i have always used cobra detectors. never failed me and have saved my ass many times. i have the best cobra detector out right now i think. i can do up dates on line it displays my speed, car voltage, and it lets me know about red light cameras to. so i dont know whats wrong with running cobra's. they are the best bang for your buck detectors out now.


I agree.:beer:

[duhtroll]

Please check the test results on the sites I posted before making claims that Cobras even work, much less are "the best bang for the buck."

I get it - you're defending the product you bought. I used to own a RMR detector until I learned otherwise.

To the RD enthusiast, Cobra RDs are like the Hyundais of the drag racing circuit.

Why am I so emphatic? If people hold companies accountable for performance and buy superior products, then companies like Cobra will have to improve their products to compete.

And as far as owning RDs, I don't even speed much. Why own one? Because you don't need to be speeding to get a ticket. Knowing where the cops are, especially on "Special Traffic Enforcement Day" (*always* when it is sunny and 70, *never* when it is 40 and raining...) keeps you from being one of the volunteer contributors to a broken system.

Traffic tickets are mostly about budget, not safety.


i have always used cobra detectors. never failed me and have saved my ass many times. i have the best cobra detector out right now i think. i can do up dates on line it displays my speed, car voltage, and it lets me know about red light cameras to. so i dont know whats wrong with running cobra's. they are the best bang for your buck detectors out now.

[LeoVampire]

When I drove my Kenworth Cross country I never needed a Radar detector the CB was my best friend and other truckers. Smoky was the enemy and cost us money and time.

That was when getting some where fast and travling some miles accross the highways ment something so it was important to know where the traps were.

Now a days I don't find a need for doing that just wasting money in gas. I would rather risk going fast and losing the Marauder and or my life as well as others.

So keep the detectors and wave to smoky bear when he passes by me is my life today as I get a thumbs up back from them.

[sailsmen]

I use a Bel and an Escort, not because I am actively speeding. I use them not to get caught in a speed trap, and there are many.

I use a GPS as an aid to navigation, particularly at nite it tells me what the road is ahead and that enables anticipation which increases the safety factor.

Try driving at nite on secondary roads with no lighting in an area you have never driven before. Some of the areas I drive in have more water than land, running off the road means swiming.

[slickster]

I agree.:beer: does it tell you where the radar is coming from. the v1 has front side and rear arrows and signal stregnth indecator letting you know if he's coming up on you or going away. other rd's just go beep beep

[03blackmerc]

My Cobra works fine. Always goes off when needed. Whatever.


agreed!!!!!!!

[duhtroll]

Yeah, and the V1 also alerts you to every automatic door in a grocery store, every security system within 3 miles, and even some leaky Cobra radar detectors. :P

I don't need to know if NASA is using radar on the friggin' moon, so I use Bel/Escort products. They are quieter AND more accurate, with better range.

Yeah, I've owned them all. The V1 is old tech, but still far and away better than any Cobra.




does it tell you where the radar is coming from. the v1 has front side and rear arrows and signal stregnth indecator letting you know if he's coming up on you or going away. other rd's just go beep beep

[Windsor58]

Bought a Passport in 85 - still got it, but bought a V1 in 03 and never used the Passport again. Love the V1 (except the price). No speeding tickets with it.

[Blackmobile]

i have always used cobra detectors. never failed me and have saved my ass many times. i have the best cobra detector out right now i think. i can do up dates on line it displays my speed, car voltage, and it lets me know about red light cameras to. so i dont know whats wrong with running cobra's. they are the best bang for your buck detectors out now.

^^^^+1^^^^^, I also run with a Cobra RD and I did my own testing, and it works. It does all the things I need it to do, let's me know when to slow down or at least check my speed. I think many are forgetting, if they want you, they will get you.

[Ralph Sr.]

i agree with joe walsh- my valentine has saved me many times... i sent it back for updating, wow !! use in the impala ss v8 and corvette zo6, use the invisible cord,[no stupid cords, hanging down]and plug into power rear view mirrow.. love the arrows, you know where its coming from.. ralph sr./rkvette

[lastdaze04]

I couldn't agree with you more.

I was brought up as an 'Airforce Brat' and my family moved every other year if not sooner. When I was young I was the navigator, yes my dad helped me to read and understand maps. I can get anywhere I want to without a GPS. And then when the Radar Detectors came out I asked why he did not have one (and as a teenager why I was not allowed to have one) and it was a moral issue. He said you are trying to find a way to break the law without getting caught. He then said that if you are not faithfull in little things it can lead to bigger worse things. Learn to obey the law. Learn to honor the SPIRIT in why the laws were made. For me its a moral issue. I obey the law 99.9% of the time. I tried to teach this to my daughter and it went in one ear and out the other. She now has so many tickets she is going to lose her licence(spel chek) and she drives a Ford Escort and here I drive a S/C MM go figure, and I am doing just fine, no tickets (knock on wood). Just my 2 cents worth. :beer: Flame away
Rick





Yep!

Boring all right. The kids have to learn how to survive with out all the toys and movies and other distractions. I am a cruel parent. The plan is to make them talk to me, and for me to show them the country I am proud of. Also to teach vocabulary, geography and how to read a map!

I work search and rescue operations. I can not count the number of times so
someones GPS failed, cloud overage/dead battery and they could not figure out what to do because they could not read a map.

No worries on my part, I smiled at your statement. No offense taken.
:beer: :D

Thanks!
Anthony

[slickster]

Yeah, and the V1 also alerts you to every automatic door in a grocery store, every security system within 3 miles, and even some leaky Cobra radar detectors. :P

I don't need to know if NASA is using radar on the friggin' moon, so I use Bel/Escort products. They are quieter AND more accurate, with better range.

Yeah, I've owned them all. The V1 is old tech, but still far and away better than any Cobra.
every rd picks up false alerts. every rd is programd to pick up x k and ka band and laser. food stores use x and k bands. cars or trucks with led tall lights or adaptive cruise control or if your realy close to neon light will show on any radar as laser. now i dont know about other rd's but on the v1 you can turn x and k band off for x and k are the most false alerts. so you mean to tell me that your rd is so great that it can tell the differance between a food stoore and a cop car. when the v1 picks up a leaky rd it will show a j meaning junk radar. but i hade my v1 for 3 years and never got the j signal

[duhtroll]

On the contrary. I don't speed much either. So why have a RD?

1) Because you don't have to be speeding to get a ticket. Knowing where cops are (if they have radar on) is helpful. I have received only one ticket in many years and it was not speed related. It was a bogus charge (when passing I apparently "touched" a double line...) that basically ended up being the officer's word against mine, so I lost in court. I knew he was there and was conscious of my driving at the time, because of my RD. Several other times I have been able to avoid slow downs of speed traps and other "revenue generators" because of my RD.

Anyone who thinks they won't stop you if you are not speeding or blatantly violating the law is being naive. It happens.

2) Knowing where slow moving tractors are on 2-lane highways so you don't come up over the hill at them while doing 40 MPH faster and have to slam on the brakes, is helpful.

3) Everyone has trips where they may or may not be using cruise control. The beep from the detector keeps one more conscious of their speed, and that is helpful.

So the insinuation that people with RDs are always out to break the law? I don't buy it. There are actually more people out there speeding without RDs, making them in essence much more dangerous drivers.


I couldn't agree with you more.

I was brought up as an 'Airforce Brat' and my family moved every other year if not sooner. When I was young I was the navigator, yes my dad helped me to read and understand maps. I can get anywhere I want to without a GPS. And then when the Radar Detectors came out I asked why he did not have one (and as a teenager why I was not allowed to have one) and it was a moral issue. He said you are trying to find a way to break the law without getting caught. He then said that if you are not faithfull in little things it can lead to bigger worse things. Learn to obey the law. Learn to honor the SPIRIT in why the laws were made. For me its a moral issue. I obey the law 99.9% of the time. I tried to teach this to my daughter and it went in one ear and out the other. She now has so many tickets she is going to lose her licence(spel chek) and she drives a Ford Escort and here I drive a S/C MM go figure, and I am doing just fine, no tickets (knock on wood). Just my 2 cents worth. :beer: Flame away
Rick

[duhtroll]

Yeah, some RDs CAN do exactly as you mention - filter out nearly every single false alert, and when those are found they can be eliminated permanently through programming -- not by removing entire bands, but by the RD remembering that individual signal.

Those are are what I mean by "good," compared to the V1.

Do some research.



every rd picks up false alerts. every rd is programd to pick up x k and ka band and laser. food stores use x and k bands. cars or trucks with led tall lights or adaptive cruise control or if your realy close to neon light will show on any radar as laser. now i dont know about other rd's but on the v1 you can turn x and k band off for x and k are the most false alerts. so you mean to tell me that your rd is so great that it can tell the differance between a food stoore and a cop car. when the v1 picks up a leaky rd it will show a j meaning junk radar. but i hade my v1 for 3 years and never got the j signal

[Dennis Reinhart]

:shake:. i know there cheap



You get what you pay for, Cobra a are prone to falsing signals they actualy pick up the locaal ocilator signals from on coming radar detectors and go off, I agree fully with you, Escort or Valintine one. 20 mph OVER IN GEORGIA WILL COST YOU $1000.OO

[slickster]

Yeah, some RDs CAN do exactly as you mention - filter out nearly every single false alert, and when those are found they can be eliminated permanently through programming -- not by removing entire bands, but by the RD remembering that individual signal.

Those are are what I mean by "good," compared to the V1.

Do some research.
well let me put this to you blunt. every rd picks up x k ka band and laser any radar is not going to tell the difference between a x or k band from a store or a cop. x and k band are allmost same. x or k band from stores will only pick up if your realy close. x or k band from cops can be shot down the road at a much more further distance. rd's have filtering modes meaning only picking up strong signals so if your on a filtering mode it will alert when the strenght indecator is allmost halfway. now when you say remembering the only thing a radar can do is the passport/escort can send a signal to a satellite telling the sat to send a signal to where you pick up a rd band so that every time you come to that same spot the sat will tell the rd what band rd was there. now how many times does a cop post at the same spot? so if you travel the same route 20mi every day in ten years your rd will never go off. so stop qizzing me about rd's ill im saying is that the v1 has faster further picking up of bands (theres lots of vids on youtube showing a v1 picking up rd from allmost 2mi away and thoes are the older ones but buy now are updated from v1 for 100 bucks dont have to give 500 bucks on a new rd every 5 years. and the arrows help alot when it picks up a false signal the arrows will go from front side then back very fast telling you its false

[lastdaze04]

Hey duhtroll: peace!!!:beer: I am on your side!!! I am not insinuating anything. I say and I quote “for me it is a moral issue“. What it comes down to is personal preference. You choose to have one, I choose not to.
It can be used as you say for safety reasons, and can help one pay attention to ones speed and I agree whole heartedly with those reasons.
However I have been with people who dislike authority and if they think they can get away with things they will use the RD (misuse the RD) and try to skirt authority whenever possible and in the process blatantly break laws that are there for the protection of all.
Also you do not need a RD. to avoid speeding tickets Ask my dad. He has been driving since he was 16, he is now 74 years old and has never had a RD and never had a speeding ticket. I am sure there are a few in the MM.net community that can say the same. He has received other tickets for other violations but a RD would never had been useful for those violations. To each their own. I wish you many more years of trouble free motoring with your RD and I will continue on with out one. On this particular issue an arguement can be made just as passionatly either way. Peace bro.:beer:
Rick

[duhtroll]

OK, let's be blunt.

There really is a lot you don't know about radar.

It is tough even having a discussion because you are trying to convince someone who has done the work, the testing, and the research when it is obvious you don't know the difference between a band and a frequency. Each band has several - some are used for radar, some are not.

X and K band are most definitely not the same, either... :rolleyes:

And, a filtering system doesn't just choose strong versus weak signals. Sigh.

AND you aren't supposed to filter out the actual police radar. You filter out the grocery store, bank system, etc.. Of course the radar I use doesn't even alert to those in the first place. But the V1 does. Don't even take my word for it. Look it up on rd.net.

"So just turn x and k band off in my V1." Yeah, if you happen to live in areas where x and k band radar aren't used - and yes they are still used.

I get it - you're a V1 zombie. Lots of those on the rd.net boards. Unfortunately the controlled testing shows there are better products available.

Youtube is not a controlled environment, but I am sure you can use that to verify just about anything you like, if you look hard enough. I am certain people who want to prove a point about a product they like (or don't like) would never manipulate the test...

Yeah, and if you're doing it right, you're spending more than $100. Using the argument "well, I only spent $100" is like a guy with a crown vic bashing a MM owner who has a Trilogy for spending the money to have something better.

Some things are worth the investment, especially if you enjoy it as a hobby like I do.


well let me put this to you blunt. every rd picks up x k ka band and laser any radar is not going to tell the difference between a x or k band from a store or a cop. x and k band are allmost same. x or k band from stores will only pick up if your realy close. x or k band from cops can be shot down the road at a much more further distance. rd's have filtering modes meaning only picking up strong signals so if your on a filtering mode it will alert when the strenght indecator is allmost halfway. now when you say remembering the only thing a radar can do is the passport/escort can send a signal to a satellite telling the sat to send a signal to where you pick up a rd band so that every time you come to that same spot the sat will tell the rd what band rd was there. now how many times does a cop post at the same spot? so if you travel the same route 20mi every day in ten years your rd will never go off. so stop qizzing me about rd's ill im saying is that the v1 has faster further picking up of bands (theres lots of vids on youtube showing a v1 picking up rd from allmost 2mi away and thoes are the older ones but buy now are updated from v1 for 100 bucks dont have to give 500 bucks on a new rd every 5 years. and the arrows help alot when it picks up a false signal the arrows will go from front side then back very fast telling you its false

[duhtroll]

And for the record, I can fairly accurately identify individual cruisers in my home town by the frequency that comes up on my RD. It is kinda fun noticing where they sit, who they stop, etc..

[Dennis Reinhart]

With Escort you get three distinct signals X band witch most police agencies do not use, but some banks a nd drug stores do, the there is K band, than banks and grocery stores use and Police, the there is KA photo radar, and then there is Laser, the Police Officer has to be stopped to run Laser, you can Jam Laser it is very illegal to jam radar I like Escort it gives distinct indications of what you are being painted with, Escort also has GPS tracking to mark false signals, and where known speed traps are at.