Would it make a difference?

[CooLManZilla]

I keep thinking that my car is just a little 2 quiet.

What are your opinions of just changing mufflers to turbines.
I don't want to do any real elaborate mods to car just yet.
So in keeping the stock setup and changing the mufflers would I get a little
deeper? I want to keep some stealth but I think that another few decibels will not hurt.
Has anyone tried this?
I want a little more grumble at idle and a bit more low end at throttle.
I cannot remove the cats.
thoughts?

[SpartaPerformance]

The right muffler will give you a great tone even with the cats still on the car. Blackened300A has an awesome deep tone, Cherry Bombs I believe.

[CooLManZilla]

I met him and you at the millers meet.
but I had to go to the hockey game and left early.
I didn't hear the car.
I have never been a fan of bombs.
will have to see what others chime in with.

[MrBluGruv]

Glasspacks or Flowmasters will probably be your best bet to actually make the car louder with just a muffler swap. From what I've seen and heard, most of the time the cats muffler volume so much on their own that your not gonna get incredible volume results just by swapping out mufflers.

[CooLManZilla]

Thanks for the input chops.
i want subtle change only if it is possible.
I need to know that if I need to make a somewhat quiet getaway I can without alerting the neighborhood. The stock sound is cool but I want to kick it in the nuts just a bit.
sorry musslemerc I will be keeping the originals if I change anything.

[Blackened300a]

I met him and you at the millers meet.
but I had to go to the hockey game and left early.
I didn't hear the car.
I have never been a fan of bombs.
will have to see what others chime in with.

My mufflers are cherry bomb vortex mufflers. They are like flowmasters and turbines. I have them with res-delete tips and the car sounds great.

[ctrlraven]

Turbines as in Aero Turbine mufflers? Flowmaster mufflers are chambered mufflers where as Aero Turbine mufflers are straight thru, two totally different muffler designs.

If you want a little different tone I would suggest replacing the stock tips with some resonator delete tips or have the resonators in the factory tips knocked out or have your 2nd set of cats removed and put a piece of pipe in it's place.

A straight thru muffler (Aero, Borla, Magnaflow) will be quieter at lower rpms where as the Flowmaster (from personal exp) is a lot louder at lower rpms especially around 2200 rpms.

[Ktorres1]

I would go aero turbine and knock out the resonators out the stock tips! My guess is your best with flowmasters and knocking out the res out the stock tips.

[breeze]

I keep thinking that my car is just a little 2 quiet.

What are your opinions of just changing mufflers to turbines.
I don't want to do any real elaborate mods to car just yet.
So in keeping the stock setup and changing the mufflers would I get a little
deeper? I want to keep some stealth but I think that another few decibels will not hurt.
Has anyone tried this?
I want a little more grumble at idle and a bit more low end at throttle.
I cannot remove the cats.
thoughts?

get 40 series flows, its just abit louder than stock and has that flows rumble to it and sounds good too!

[Marauderjack]

Magnaflows....NO DRONE and they "talk" when you want 'em too!!!!!:beer: :D

[breeze]

Magnaflows....NO DRONE and they "talk" when you want 'em too!!!!!:beer: :D

:grad: niether did the flows, i had the setup i posted before. the man wants a deep quite tone and that equals to just change the mufflers to 40series

[musclemerc]

I'm gonna get flamed for this but. Keep the stock mufflers (they are turbo mufflers) and do a mid pipe swap with 2.5" pipes and high flow cats. Then you will gain HP and have a nice deep sound.

[LANDY]

i really like my 18" magnaflow. no drone and quiet at idle.

[CooLManZilla]

Great feedback guys
Sounds like the the 40 series flows might be they way to go.
Anyone have a decent sound clip of 40 series and the rest stock?
Remember I want to keep the rest of the system stock so I don't think I would delete the resonators.
what would I gain anyway I read a million posts that seem to say they don't really change the tone that much
am I mistaken?

[Ktorres1]

I'd pm bad merc, he has that exact set up and he can give you all the feed back to shoot you in the right direction! I think you'll be happy shoot bad merc a pm

[breeze]

u really nothing but a great sound. trust me i had it if u want quite rumble get the flows. when u punch it she has some tone and at idle u barely hear it...i took the flows off and did a catback with aeros 4inch tips def too loud for what your looking for. the floes are in my basement

[03blackmerc]

turbines and delete resigantors plenty loud

[ctrlraven]

The Flowmaster will make drone where as the Aero, Borla, and Magnaflow mufflers will make a ton less than the Flowmaster mufflers. I had FM for about 3 years and after putting the Aeros on me car I am much happier with the Aeros. Going to replace the FM mufflers on my 89 5.0 with Aeros and also have a Aero muffler waiting to be installed on my Taurus.

Chambered mufflers will be loud all the time usually because of the sound waves always bouncing around inside the chambers. Straight thru mufflers have more of a mellow sound until you make them "talk" as MarauderJack put it best.

IMHO 18" Magnaflows would be your best bet for what you are looking for.

Mine with 2nd set of cats removed, Flowmaster Super 40 mufflers and res-delete tips (Warm engine start)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i669WNJjr5E
i669WNJjr5E

Same setup but with Aero Turbine 2525 mufflers (Cold engine start, exhaust sounds louder until it warms up then mellows out)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1sRPbYJ8_k
e1sRPbYJ8_k

Same Aero setup but warm engine start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZCQgWuSEhs
aZCQgWuSEhs

[03blackmerc]

ha ha i was actually thinkin about puttin Aero's on my 89 5.0. they gotta sound good i havnt looked on you tube yet to see if anyone has even done it?

[breeze]

The Flowmaster will make drone where as the Aero, Borla, and Magnaflow mufflers will make a ton less than the Flowmaster mufflers. I had FM for about 3 years and after putting the Aeros on me car I am much happier with the Aeros. Going to replace the FM mufflers on my 89 5.0 with Aeros and also have a Aero muffler waiting to be installed on my Taurus.

Chambered mufflers will be loud all the time usually because of the sound waves always bouncing around inside the chambers. Straight thru mufflers have more of a mellow sound until you make them "talk" as MarauderJack put it best.

IMHO 18" Magnaflows would be your best bet for what you are looking for.



i had the flows and stock tips setup so i know exactly what it will sound like. my flows didnt drone. if it did it honestly wasnt noticable. look get the flows an call it a day. my reason for changing mufflers is because they WERENT loud enough! man "talk" id prefer my car to "bark"

[Spiderplow]

So will the average muffler shop remove the resonators?? I just bought the Flowmasters and I am trying to figure out what to do with the tips. Who sells the tips without the res???

[MercNasty]

Hands down Aero Turbines 2525 are the best mufflers for the marauder. I love the way mine sound right now but I think i am going to look into having the resonators taken out of the tips.

[CooLManZilla]

seems like everyone is a resonator hater.
What if anything besides a sublte change is the attraction to it?
Ctrlraven I have seen your youtube video's before, I like the tone with the aero's but wonder what they would sound like with everything else stock.
Lots to think about
Thanks to everyone for all the good feedback.

[breeze]

post my dyno chris so he can see how they sound...

[ctrlraven]

seems like everyone is a resonator hater.
What if anything besides a sublte change is the attraction to it?
Ctrlraven I have seen your youtube video's before, I like the tone with the aero's but wonder what they would sound like with everything else stock.
Lots to think about
Thanks to everyone for all the good feedback.
The stock tips are 3.5" the resonator cuts the exhaust pass thru down to maybe 2" or less. Opening them up just seems to help tune the exhaust note as it comes out.

I had my Flowmasters and res-delete tips installed at the same time so I never got to hear the car with just the res-delete tips on it with full stock exhaust.

If you live near another member, find out what exhaust they have and see if you can meet up. It's always best to hear the exhaust in person from the outside and riding in the car.

[CooLManZilla]

If I went he flowmaster route I would go stainless. I am worried about them rotting out so fast. I cant figure out what would be better the delta flow for less cabin noise
or the regular 40 series.
In keeping the resonators I know it will quiet it down a little bit.
I like this sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4f_-JHzHWI
But I dont think I can put 50 series on the car....
2 baffles? 3 baffles? I'm Baffled..

[MrBluGruv]

why do you think 50s can't go on?

[CooLManZilla]

Not listed as compatible car option on the flowmaster site.
I dont know of any marauder with them.
:confused:

[mrjones]

[QUOTE=CooLManZilla;908424]seems like everyone is a resonator hater.

I just put the delete tips on and didn't change the mufflers. Not much change at all. If I had it to do over again, I would change the mufflers and leave the stock tips on.

I'm not a huge fan of cutting the back cats off, but two of the best sounding MMs I've heard both only had one set of cats. One had the second set cut off and had 18" Magnaflows (my fav) and the other had high 2 high flow cats instead of the stock 4 and Flowmasters.

[MrBluGruv]

Not listed as compatible car option on the flowmaster site.
I dont know of any marauder with them.
:confused:

Honestly, unless I'm completely mistaken here, I really don't think that matters. If you've got the inlet and outlet position the same, and the body length the same, you should be fine.

I had a Flowmaster Delta 40 series on a 2002 V6 Galant, I doubt that would be on a compatibility list...

[computertech]

I keep thinking that my car is just a little 2 quiet.

What are your opinions of just changing mufflers to turbines.
I don't want to do any real elaborate mods to car just yet.
So in keeping the stock setup and changing the mufflers would I get a little
deeper? I want to keep some stealth but I think that another few decibels will not hurt.
Has anyone tried this?
I want a little more grumble at idle and a bit more low end at throttle.
I cannot remove the cats.
thoughts?

I would recommend the Flowmaster`s I have them as well as several friends and they sounds awsome :burnout:

[CooLManZilla]

What series did you get?
40's? 40 delta flow? did you keep the reso's?

What should I expect to pay for a set of stainless flows?

[breeze]

I would recommend the Flowmaster`s I have them as well as several friends and they sounds awsome :burnout:

exactly what ive been saying THE WHOLE TIME!!!...deltas take the drone away but the 40's i had the drone wasnt noticable.

[computertech]

What series did you get?
40's? 40 delta flow? did you keep the reso's?

What should I expect to pay for a set of stainless flows?

Coolman.......I have the 40 series, they sound awesome,we can meet up anytime and you could take a listen......There is no reason to spend the $$$ on stainless, Flows will last a long long time....:burnout:

[CooLManZilla]

are you running everything else stock?

[RocsMerc]

Honestly, unless I'm completely mistaken here, I really don't think that matters. If you've got the inlet and outlet position the same, and the body length the same, you should be fine.

I had a Flowmaster Delta 40 series on a 2002 V6 Galant, I doubt that would be on a compatibility list...

They must be compatible cause I have delta 40's on my Marauder. I live near you if you want to hear it, but my exhaust is far from stock or subtle, so I'm not sure if it will help you decide anything. The previous owner of my car put the exhaust in and I managed to find him in this thread. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29837

My exhaust mods are in his sig.

2003 Mercury Marauder (SOLD...will be missed)
Flowmaster Delta 40's
Meg's Delete Tips
Walker High Flow Cats
Custom 2 1/4" X-Pipe
JLT Performance RAI
Bob White Red Reflective Bumper Inserts
Carbon Fiber Dashboard and Interior Upgrade

My exhaust is custom made as one continuous welded piece from the exhaust manifold flanges to the tips. He is wrong about the 2 1/4 inch pipe though. I had a shop measure my pipes and I have 2 1/2" from the manifold to the mufflers and 2 1/4" from the mufflers to the tips.

[computertech]

are you running everything else stock?


aside from the delete tips yes :burnout:

[ctrlraven]

Whatever muffler you do decide on order it from www.ourdealsrock.net they seem to have the cheapest price on mufflers with free FedEx ground shipping.

[Krytin]

Where are you on LI?
I just had a nice pair of Magnaflows installed at a very good shop in Port Jeff Station. They have two former Kooks employees working there and they did an excellent job on my car. They will install whatever you like - I had them redo mine from the cats to the tailpipes in 2 1/2 ' SS mandrel bent w/H-pipe.

[CooLManZilla]

[quote=RocsMerc;909779]They must be compatible cause I have delta 40's on my Marauder. I live near you if you want to hear it, but my exhaust is far from stock or subtle

Rocco, I have heard your car.
not subtle at all! :D

[CooLManZilla]

Coolman.......I have the 40 series, they sound awesome,we can meet up anytime and you could take a listen......There is no reason to spend the $$$ on stainless, Flows will last a long long time....:burnout:


you get the delta's or regular super 40's?

been so busy I have not been able to put much thought into it after the initial
obsession.