Still feeling dizzy after driving my car

[bawazir]

Even thew i switch back from breathers to pcv the smell went a way, but i still do feel drozzy every now and than, i went to the muffler shop and they told no muffler leak, I don't get it! window open or closed, i feel drowsy, I turn watry eye, and headache, Dose any one have had any experiencing with this?
Please help?

At first i thought it was me but i drove my other car i dont feel any thing,
My friends in the car feel it after an hour, am expecting an exhaust leak ,

I tried every think:
-I checked for a/c freon leak
-I checked for exhaust leak
-I dont have any hole on the fire wall

I got my Block off cap from musclemerc today, i ll see if would make a different. could it be the fuel,?
What ever it is, it is orderless, Could it be the cat's even tho they look and sound good ? could it be due to not having an EGR? , Could it be mildew on the A/C remember i dont smell any thing just headache, Please HELP!
:depress: Dammit i am not enjoying my car

[Egon Spengler]

Carbon monoxide (CO) is odorless and causes these symtoms... You HAVE TO have an exhaust leak somewhere

[bawazir]

Carbon monoxide (CO) is odorless and causes these symtoms... You HAVE TO have an exhaust leak somewhere


I went to 4 muffler shops they cant find a leak :( I am really sad, i just drive the car the first 20 min and i feel it

[Egon Spengler]

I am really sad, i just drive the car the first 20 min and i feel it
Do you have headers? You could have a leak at any trasition from header/manifold to the rest of the exhaust... I had this problem in my Ranger and I replace the gasket between one of the breaks in the exhaust and it fixed the leak and the light headed problem.

[Got_1]

if its an exhaust leak you should definitly hear it

have someone at the back of the car plug the tips with some rags while the car is running and observe all of the flanges and connections for leaks.

[massacre]

? Check to see that your heater box is sealed to the firewall ? Is there a grommet missing from the firewall?
Just thinking of random things here.....

[ImpalaSlayer]

i doubt that he would over look it but Zack did plug your egr port on the manifold when he took it off right>?

[Egon Spengler]

Take it back to wherever you bought it from if you have warranty! I know you have only been on the site for a few months, but I don't know how long you have had the car for! I would bring it back and tell them you feel light headed everytime you drive it ever since you bought it. They might tell you to go pound sand after seeing the supercharger though... I dunno!

[bawazir]

Do you have headers? You could have a leak at any trasition from header/manifold to the rest of the exhaust... I had this problem in my Ranger and I replace the gasket between one of the breaks in the exhaust and it fixed the leak and the light headed problem.


Did you said the manifold might be leaking? I never checked that

[bawazir]

Do you have headers? You could have a leak at any trasition from header/manifold to the rest of the exhaust... I had this problem in my Ranger and I replace the gasket between one of the breaks in the exhaust and it fixed the leak and the light headed problem.

I am running Stock headers

[bawazir]

Take it back to wherever you bought it from if you have warranty! I know you have only been on the site for a few months, but I don't know how long you have had the car for! I would bring it back and tell them you feel light headed everytime you drive it ever since you bought it. They might tell you to go pound sand after seeing the supercharger though... I dunno!

All this happened after the dyno,

[bawazir]

i doubt that he would over look it but Zack did plug your egr port on the manifold when he took it off right>?



EGR is plugged

[bawazir]

? Check to see that your heater box is sealed to the firewall ? Is there a grommet missing from the firewall?
Just thinking of random things here.....

Checked that, i dont think nothing is missing

[bawazir]

Do you have headers? You could have a leak at any trasition from header/manifold to the rest of the exhaust... I had this problem in my Ranger and I replace the gasket between one of the breaks in the exhaust and it fixed the leak and the light headed problem.

When this happend to you did you hear any noise or you just replaced it ?

[Egon Spengler]

When this happend to you did you hear any noise or you just replaced it ?
The car wasn't running right because of the leak and it was a noticeable sound different... I had the door open and revved the engine and could hear the sputtering... Replaced the gaskets at the exhaust joints and all was good

[musclemerc]

I sent Bob some info on installing the cap. I really hope this comes to an end for you soon Abdull. You've just about covered all bases on figuring out a fix. Let me know if you want to go ahead with the remote EGR valve and I will make it for you ASAP!



Even thew i switch back from breathers to pcv the smell went a way, but i still do feel drozzy every now and than, i went to the muffler shop and they told no muffler leak, I don't get it! window open or closed, i feel drowsy, I turn watry eye, and headache, Dose any one have had any experiencing with this?
Please help?

At first i thought it was me but i drove my other car i dont feel any thing,
My friends in the car feel it after an hour, am expecting an exhaust leak ,

I tried every think:
-I checked for a/c freon leak
-I checked for exhaust leak
-I dont have any hole on the fire wall

I got my Block off cap from musclemerc today, i ll see if would make a different. could it be the fuel,?
What ever it is, it is orderless, Could it be the cat's even tho they look and sound good ? could it be due to not having an EGR? , Could it be mildew on the A/C remember i dont smell any thing just headache, Please HELP!
:depress: Dammit i am not enjoying my car

[bawazir]

I sent Bob some info on installing the cap. I really hope this comes to an end for you soon Abdull. You've just about covered all bases on figuring out a fix. Let me know if you want to go ahead with the remote EGR valve and I will make it for you ASAP!



Thank you musclemerc,, i hope that cap will fix it

[Zack]

WHAT cap are you guys talking about?

The EGR fitting on the manifold is capped and high temp siliconed. Thats not leaking unless it developed a crack.

If you get this sensation when the windows are down, maybe you are just suffeing from motion sickness :confused:

[bawazir]

WHAT cap are you guys talking about?

The EGR fitting on the manifold is capped and high temp siliconed. Thats not leaking unless it developed a crack.

If you get this sensation when the windows are down, maybe you are just suffeing from motion sickness :confused:


I don't feel like that when i drive my other cars, My friend felt dizzy after an hour too, Zack you'll feel if when you drive my car as well, am really lost on this one,

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Did anyone care to think its just the boost that is pinning him to the seat, thus not allowing for appropriate respiration?? Simple physics here guys..

[bawazir]

Did anyone care to think its just the boost that is pinning him to the seat, thus not allowing for appropriate respiration?? Simple physics here guys..

Pinning me? :confused:

[Krytin]

The symptoms you describe sound like classic CO/carbon monoxide poisoning.
CO is in the exhaust so maybe the muffler shop missed something?

[bawazir]

The symptoms you describe sound like classic CO/carbon monoxide poisoning.
CO is in the exhaust so maybe the muffler shop missed something?

4 muffler shop :confused: told me they same think no leak, but than again never checked the headers

[musclemerc]

look for carbon build up around the header flange

[bawazir]

look for carbon build up around the header flange

will take it to Bob and check it out, will try the caps and hopefully it will work

[Blackened300a]

My friends mustang had a header leak and it would cause a headache and nausea. I refused to ride in it until he fixed it. Check the manifolds and the EGR cap. No need to pass out behind the wheel and kill yourself.

[Phrog_gunner]

CO poisoning sounds right. We pilots have to be constantly aware of things like this and they sell little detectors that run about $4 and its about the size of a business card. You can buy one and put it in your car, if the copper colored disk in the middle turns dark there is CO in your cabin. Simple and cheap way to prove there IS an exhaust leak.


http://www.skygeek.com/asa-co-d.html

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/stylespilotshop_2104_72300410

[bawazir]

My friends mustang had a header leak and it would cause a headache and nausea. I refused to ride in it until he fixed it. Check the manifolds and the EGR cap. No need to pass out behind the wheel and kill yourself.

at least he could hear there is a header leaks right?
mine don't have any sign of leak, would it really really make hard to find, i even installed home dedicator in my car, I am ready to spend to re install the whole exhaust system if i had to

[bawazir]

CO poisoning sounds right. We pilots have to be constantly aware of things like this and they sell little detectors that run about $4 and its about the size of a business card. You can buy one and put it in your car, if the copper colored disk in the middle turns dark there is CO in your cabin. Simple and cheap way to prove there IS an exhaust leak.


http://www.skygeek.com/asa-co-d.html

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/stylespilotshop_2104_72300410

Wow very nice, i will buy those right a way, thank you sir

[Phrog_gunner]

Wow very nice, i will buy those right a way, thank you sir

No problemo.

[guspech750]

Maybe its your Eaton swap. We should probably put on my car and I will conduct some tests.

[bawazir]

Maybe its your Eaton swap. We should probably put on my car and I will conduct some tests.

:lol: :lol:

[dakslim]

Maybe you had too much to drink last night at the bar. lol

[bawazir]

Maybe you had too much to drink last night at the bar. lol

No no, this think been happening for a while

[Egon Spengler]

No no, this think been happening for a while
Your car has a salvage title correct? I thought I saw that somewhere... Maybe the damage happened from that and never got fixed??

[bawazir]

Your car has a salvage title correct? I thought I saw that somewhere... Maybe the damage happened from that and never got fixed??


It was a re-bulit title it had 28000 miles car fax approved, when i bought it, it just had small damage on the roof which was fixed i will post some pics how did it looked before, and as i said i felt those dizznies after the dyno, i am gussing this was my frist time going on boost, I really need to track this

[Egon Spengler]

It was a re-bulit title it had 28000 miles car fax approved, when i bought it, it just had small damage on the roof which was fixed i will post some pics how did it looked before, and as i said i felt those dizznies after the dyno, i am gussing this was my frist time going on boost, I really need to track this
sounds like a gasket freed up on the exhaust near the engine, or even right at the engine. Really need to get all joints from the engine back checked and/or replaced... Bet your problem will go away. Being a fireman we go to a lot of carbon monoxide calls in homes with fireplaces and even oil burners and these are all common symptoms of CO poisoning. Check that checked asap because CO is a silent killer. It is tasteless and odorless

[bawazir]

sounds like a gasket freed up on the exhaust near the engine, or even right at the engine. Really need to get all joints from the engine back checked and/or replaced... Bet your problem will go away. Being a fireman we go to a lot of carbon monoxide calls in homes with fireplaces and even oil burners and these are all common symptoms of CO poisoning. Check that checked asap because CO is a silent killer. It is tasteless and odorless


Can you get migraine from CO poisoning>?

[Egon Spengler]

Can you get migraine from CO poisoning>?
Headaches definitely, light headed, nausea, dizziness... Can effect the central nervous system if bad enough. Can kill you in a decent enough dose... Better drive with all four windows down to circulate fresh air in, especially with your kid in the car!

This is how people commit suicide in their vehicles. If you sit in your car in a garage running, it will eventually kill you from the CO from your exhaust. My guess is you have a leak in your exhaust creeping into the cab

[bawazir]

Headaches definitely, light headed, nausea, dizziness... Can effect the central nervous system if bad enough. Can kill you in a decent enough dose... Better drive with all four windows down to circulate fresh air in, especially with your kid in the car!

This is how people commit suicide in their vehicles. If you sit in your car in a garage running, it will eventually kill you from the CO from your exhaust. My guess is you have a leak in your exhaust creeping into the cab


Thanks will do, but even thow window down i feel it, am really lost, I guss i should start with cap that i got. and then change every single gasket of the exhaust system

[Blackened300a]

Thanks will do, but even thow window down i feel it, am really lost, I guss i should start with cap that i got. and then change every single gasket of the exhaust system

Check for carbon around the manifold flanges and around the EGR. Sometimes a exhaust leak will sound like a tick, sometimes you won't hear it at all.

[Egon Spengler]

Check for carbon around the manifold flanges and around the EGR. Sometimes a exhaust leak will sound like a tick, sometimes you won't hear it at all.
Can also give you hesitation on take-off from a light.

[bawazir]

Can also give you hesitation on take-off from a light.

What is take-off from light, You u mean i could see some leak with a special light

[bawazir]

Check for carbon around the manifold flanges and around the EGR. Sometimes a exhaust leak will sound like a tick, sometimes you won't hear it at all.

When you say the manifold flanges? Do you mean header gasket? or the intake manifold?

[ImpalaSlayer]

When you say the manifold flanges? Do you mean header gasket? or the intake manifold?

you dont have headers but exhaust manifolds.

[a_d_a_m]

What is take-off from light, You u mean i could see some leak with a special light No, "take off from a light" means when you hit the gas when the light turns green......................... .............

[ImpalaSlayer]

No, "take off from a light" means when you hit the gas when the light turns green......................... .............

no, you never herd of a CO light? :lol:

[a_d_a_m]

no, you never herd of a CO light? Oh, right. I forgot about that.

I think Harbor Freight sells those. They're right next to the blinker fluid and rotator splints.

[Egon Spengler]

Bawazir, you do not have headers. The stock system has manifolds. You have an intake manifold and two exhaust manifolds. Headers replace the exhaust manifold for better flow and help the engine exhale a little better. You would have manifold gaskets, not header gaskets.

I was saying that when you leave a green light and accelerate, you will have hesitation in response from your car when hitting the gas pedal if you have an exhaust leak.

[bawazir]

Bawazir, you do not have headers. The stock system has manifolds. You have an intake manifold and two exhaust manifolds. Headers replace the exhaust manifold for better flow and help the engine exhale a little better. You would have manifold gaskets, not header gaskets.

I was saying that when you leave a green light and accelerate, you will have hesitation in response from your car when hitting the gas pedal if you have an exhaust leak.

No problem or noise when accelerate, I just notice when start up the car cold in a hot weather there is a whitish smoke from the tail pipe like you see them in the winter till the car warms up, my coolent is good no leak what so ever, what that can be? i think water in the cat right case it goes a way when it is warm after 15min very very light smoke ,, should i be worried about it? could that be related?

[musclemerc]

Abdull, I really think that Bob has done a through job troubleshooting. He's gone through your MM throughly. He found the crack in the AC system, gave you a correctly set up closed loop pcv system, and more than likely would have seen or heard an exhaust leak by now. The white smoke on start up is just condensation in the exhaust burning. Get the little carbon tester Phrogg showed you, leave the car running and check the card for carbon. I would also advise you to set a visit with the DR. and drive you car so the symptoms will be present at the time of the visit.
I really hope you get to the end of this problem soon.

[bawazir]

Abdull, I really think that Bob has done a through job troubleshooting. He's gone through your MM throughly. He found the crack in the AC system, gave you a correctly set up closed loop pcv system, and more than likely would have seen or heard an exhaust leak by now. The white smoke on start up is just condensation in the exhaust burning. Get the little carbon tester Phrogg showed you, leave the car running and check the card for carbon. I would also advise you to set a visit with the DR. and drive you car so the symptoms will be present at the time of the visit.
I really hope you get to the end of this problem soon.


I really do appreciate it for all your help, Bob going install that cap tomorrow and hopefully it will fix it, I did fix the crack as well, i swear i thought somethign wroong with me
but it dont happens when i drive my other cars, i am really lost, I will try the cap and let you know, ones again thanks

[musclemerc]

No problem Abdull. Just remember your in good capable hands with Bob. Let me know how it works.

[MENINBLK]

Thanks will do, but even thow window down i feel it...

If you are driving with the windows down and you are still getting symptoms,
there is something RADICALLY wrong with either the car, or your sense of balance.

If you have already gone through the entire car and checked out the intake and exhaust,
the only other thing is to check the VENTILATION system.
If the blower is not circulating air you can have a buildup of MOLD inside the box.
MOLD can release spores inside your Marauder's cabin and cause you to have these symptoms.
The only way to get rid of the mold is to replace the entire box and all of its components.

You should also check UNDER YOUR RUGS for mold growth since this Marauder was a salvaged car.
It could have sat in a yard and may have been subjected to dampness and/or water.

[bawazir]

If you are driving with the windows down and you are still getting symptoms,
there is something RADICALLY wrong with either the car, or your sense of balance.

If you have already gone through the entire car and checked out the intake and exhaust,
the only other thing is to check the VENTILATION system.
If the blower is not circulating air you can have a buildup of MOLD inside the box.
MOLD can release spores inside your Marauder's cabin and cause you to have these symptoms.
The only way to get rid of the mold is to replace the entire box and all of its components.

You should also check UNDER YOUR RUGS for mold growth since this Marauder was a salvaged car.
It could have sat in a yard and may have been subjected to dampness and/or water.


That what just i thought, But my? if my window down, and my a/c and heat are off, why do i still feel it?:depress:, and when you say the box are u talking about the out side box by the passenger firewall ? , am going to replace that as well ,, and should mold smell, case i never smelled any thing, so cant mold be orderless,

[Mr. Man]

Has your windshield been replaced recently?

[bawazir]

Has your windshield been replaced recently?

When i bought the car yes

[guspech750]

Maybe you have something melting inside the dashboard and your car is going to burst into flames soon.

[bawazir]

I honstly doubt it is mold, i think is co2 leaking

[Mr. Man]

When i bought the car yes
Did the dizziness start right after the windshield was replaced or shortly thereafter?

[bawazir]

Did the dizziness start right after the windshield was replaced or shortly thereafter?

It all started after the dyno

[Mr. Man]

So you drove around for a few months with the new windshield with no problems?

Thought you may have gotten a bad piece of glass and it was causing your eyes to over compensate thus giving you headaches and after a bit of driving dizziness could ensue. It was a long shot but as all else is coming up snake eyes I thought I'd think outside the box.

[justbob]

Please tell me you installed your wiper cowl back on the car with a replacement rubber seal (that you were missing) to protect the fresh air duct from engine gases? If you haven't done that yet, then you are wasting everyones time on here. Bring stinky by tomorrow and i'll throw the cap on for you. BUT, If you haven't installed the parts mentioned, then you are pissing into the wind and getting very very wet.

[a_d_a_m]

Your local fire department may be able to do a carbon monoxide check. I think all departments nowadays have the meters so they can check for CO leaks in houses. No reason you couldn't call a non-emergency number (please, for the sake of my brothers and sisters in dispatch) and ask them if you could bring the car by for a check.

[Egon Spengler]

Your local fire department may be able to do a carbon monoxide check. I think all departments nowadays have the meters so they can check for CO leaks in houses. No reason you couldn't call a non-emergency number (please, for the sake of my brothers and sisters in dispatch) and ask them if you could bring the car by for a check.
We have three of them on our department. I bet if you drove to your local fire department, they would put a meter in your car and let u know if there is any level of CO in part per million (PPM) and let you know if it is a dangerous level or not.

[a_d_a_m]

Exactly...

[bawazir]

Your local fire department may be able to do a carbon monoxide check. I think all departments nowadays have the meters so they can check for CO leaks in houses. No reason you couldn't call a non-emergency number (please, for the sake of my brothers and sisters in dispatch) and ask them if you could bring the car by for a check.


The best idea ever, am going there tomorrow

[GetMeMyStogie]

Any chance the tip of one or both of your tailpipes does not extend beyond the rear bumper cover? If one of them is short, the exhaust coming out of it might be getting caught up under the bumper, and finding its way into the trunk through a rust hole maybe, or maybe a missing grommet. Once it's in the trunk, it's in the passenger compartment.
I suppose that goes for a leak anywhere rear of the mufflers. How hard is it to find a leak there, seeing as how the exhaust is already muffled? You'd need to be able to see it, I guess, or get your ear right up close to it with the engine running and listen for sputtering air.

Maybe you should try running some seafoam into the motor with the windows rolled up - that stuff will make the exhaust quite easy to see, and may help trace the point of entry into the cabin.

IDK, just a few thoughts.

[CBT]

Check for something blocking your exhaust pipes. My friend Eddie used to sneak up behind cars and stick bananas up the exhaust pipe.

[Egon Spengler]

My friend Eddie used to sneak up behind cars and stick bananas up my exhaust pipe.
Oh CBT.... why do you make it so easy for me on a Monday morning? haha:P

[Haggis]

My friend TJ used to sneak up behind me and stick bananas up my exhaust pipe.

............

[MENINBLK]

I honstly doubt it is mold, i think is co2 leaking

First of all. you may not smell mold spores even though they may be present.

The box I am speaking of is the HVAC box which is partly under the hood
and the balance is under your dashboard.
To remove it requires removal of your dashboard.

Please check UNDER YOUR RUGS for mold as well.

Second, Carbon Monoxide is CO, not CO2.
CO2 is carbon DIOXIDE which is what you exhale every day
since you were hatched.

[MENINBLK]

Check for something blocking your exhaust pipes. My friend Eddie used to sneak up behind cars and stick bananas up the exhaust pipe.

Are you sure it is bananas ??? :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

[Zack]

First of all. you may not smell mold spores even though they may be present.

The box I am speaking of is the HVAC box which is partly under the hood
and the balance is under your dashboard.
To remove it requires removal of your dashboard.

Please check UNDER YOUR RUGS for mold as well.

Second, Carbon Monoxide is CO, not CO2.
CO2 is carbon DIOXIDE which is what you exhale every day
since you were hatched.

Bingo.
He has a huge gaping crack in the said HVAC box and no weather strip present on the hood.
AND it is a KATRINA MArauder
FAIL

[CBT]

Are you sure it is bananas ??? :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:
Ya, he used to carry spares in his old crappy blue Nova.

Jenny Summers (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002060/): I remember you used to drive that crappy blue Chevy Nova.
[they both chuckle]
Jenny Summers (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002060/): What are you driving now?
Axel Foley (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000552/): Same crappy blue Chevy Nova.

[Egon Spengler]

Ya, he used to carry spares in his old crappy blue Nova.
It's a very impooortant piece aquel
My dad's crappy blue nova... welllll guess it isn't that crappy... MY INHERITANCE!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2590/238/62/562932925/n562932925_2171204_367064.jpg

[CBT]

Nice! What's it say under them crossed flags? 396 Turbo Jet?



It's a very impooortant piece aquel
My dad's crappy blue nova... welllll guess it isn't that crappy... MY INHERITANCE!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2590/238/62/562932925/n562932925_2171204_367064.jpg

[Egon Spengler]

Nice! What's it say under them crossed flags? 396 Turbo Jet?
427 actually... Nice ride... I love that car... He wanted to sell it and buy a newer mustang and I told him I would disown his as a father... I hope I convinced him...

[guspech750]

Hey Bawazir. Ever think you might be becoming claustrophobic? And theres nothing wrong with your car. Maybe its your blood pressure?

[Bradley G]

I got to go with the engine bay air getting into the heater box.
The box was putty'ed up on top but what about below , where you can't see?

[Marauderjack]

I got to go with the engine bay air getting into the heater box.
The box was putty'ed up on top but what about below , where you can't see?

Bradley....you may have hit the nail on the head!!:beer:

Didn't I read in one of his posts that the rubber seal that runs across the wiper cowl/fresh air intake was missing on his car??:confused: This seals engine bay fumes and heat from the cabin fresh air intake while the car is moving.

If it is missing and he's deleted the PCV he would be sucking breather fumes and heat directly into the cabin....NOT GOOD!!:shake:

My $0.02 FWIW??:D

[Egon Spengler]

Bradley....you may have hit the nail on the head!!:beer:

Didn't I read in one of his posts that the rubber seal that runs across the wiper cowl/fresh air intake was missing on his car??:confused: This seals engine bay fumes and heat from the cabin fresh air intake while the car is moving.

If it is missing and he's deleted the PCV he would be sucking breather fumes and heat directly into the cabin....NOT GOOD!!:shake:

My $0.02 FWIW??:D
Wow... This is like CSI stuff! Sounds good to me!

[musclemerc]

His pcv system is a closed loop. So there is no breathers


Bradley....you may have hit the nail on the head!!:beer:

Didn't I read in one of his posts that the rubber seal that runs across the wiper cowl/fresh air intake was missing on his car??:confused: This seals engine bay fumes and heat from the cabin fresh air intake while the car is moving.

If it is missing and he's deleted the PCV he would be sucking breather fumes and heat directly into the cabin....NOT GOOD!!:shake:

My $0.02 FWIW??:D