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justbob
05-12-2010, 05:47 PM
OK, my inbox is getting pretty cluttered on this so here you go.
Passenger side head will use your existing PCV (but drilled out hollow) and a piece of tubing from your stock set up.
I had to remove a small section from the tube, but it works flawlessly.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/marauding4life/IMG_1195.jpg
On the drivers side, install a new Marauder PCV valve and reuse your plastic 90 from the old ( heat gun removes and installs this easilly) into the rubber grommet, reuse your existing straight rubber hose, 1/2" x 3" IIRC. Then use a piece of 1/2" EMT conduit from there(I will provide this for you for free plus shipping if you desire) to a rubber 90 1/2" x 5/8" Dorman part# 47028 found at Autozone. This was pretty tight, but it worked good.
Here is a picture of all parts involved, you should have all but a new PCV, rubber elbow, and a piece of pipe. This is about a 3 minute install.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/marauding4life/IMG_1196.jpg
Here is what it should look like after finished (I would paint or use wire loom myself) I also made a slightly newer design than what is pictured with some tighter bends near the wiper cowl.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/marauding4life/IMG_1192.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn19/marauding4life/IMG_1194.jpg
I will have two pipes in the mail tomorrow and will know prices on shipping in the morning. I plan to make this easy and just use the one price box or envelope the USPS provides. I will edit this post when I know more.
EDIT: Price for pipe is $5.35 (shipping and paypal fees)
bawazir
05-14-2010, 06:40 AM
Bawazir's adopted Father :lol: :lol: first it was Zack than it is you
Egon Spengler
05-14-2010, 06:42 AM
[quote=justbob;910688]OK, my inbox is getting pretty cluttered on this so here you go. [quote]
Are they all from Bazzle?:eek:
bawazir
05-14-2010, 06:45 AM
[quote=justbob;910688]OK, my inbox is getting pretty cluttered on this so here you go. [quote]
Are they all from Bazzle?:eek:
:lol: :lol::lol: funny aviator
Egon Spengler
05-14-2010, 06:49 AM
[quote=The Bandit;911363][quote=justbob;910688]OK, my inbox is getting pretty cluttered on this so here you go.
:lol: :lol::lol: funny aviator
Thanks Boner-zir
FordNut
05-14-2010, 06:57 AM
Just a FYI on the PCV setup... Anybody who hasn't installed the Eaton conversion yet with some of the fittings plugged, you can just use the complete OEM Cobra PCV setup which may be included with your kit if it came from a Cobra take-off instead of buying piece-by-piece.
jdenning002
05-14-2010, 10:06 AM
This is a good fix for those who blocked off the lower intake outlet...
I used the oem cobra tube that goes from the back of the blower, connects to the bottom of the intake and to the drivers side head. I used the EV-111 pcv valve that closes under boost.
justbob
05-14-2010, 10:49 AM
Just a FYI on the PCV setup... Anybody who hasn't installed the Eaton conversion yet with some of the fittings plugged, you can just use the complete OEM Cobra PCV setup which may be included with your kit if it came from a Cobra take-off instead of buying piece-by-piece.
Very true, and best way too go.
This is a good fix for those who blocked off the lower intake outlet...
I used the oem cobra tube that goes from the back of the blower, connects to the bottom of the intake and to the drivers side head. I used the EV-111 pcv valve that closes under boost.
Also good way too go. I still haven't had a chance to check out a stock Cobra, but would like to see one for myself.
burt ragio
11-21-2010, 08:39 AM
In reguards to PVC hook up in post #1 & #7 is one better than the other. Is there an advantage or disadvantage to comming off the lower ontake ?>
jay03merc
02-06-2011, 12:29 AM
if you pull vacuum off the blower for the pcv wouldnt that pull oil residue in through blower and on intercooler? is there a fitting on lower intake for vacuum?
would it be better to have a pcv catch can inbetween pcv and intake?
musclemerc
02-06-2011, 06:54 AM
Try a baffled catch can for better results or do like others and put on a set of breathers.
SC Cheesehead
02-06-2011, 07:49 AM
Try a baffled catch can for better results or do like others and put on a set of breathers.
I started with breathers, went to a baffled catch can.
Baffled catch can is THE way to go.
justbob
02-06-2011, 09:26 AM
In reguards to PVC hook up in post #1 & #7 is one better than the other. Is there an advantage or disadvantage to comming off the lower ontake ?>
I like mine as it won't pull excess oil through the intercooler.
if you pull vacuum off the blower for the pcv wouldnt that pull oil residue in through blower and on intercooler? is there a fitting on lower intake for vacuum?
would it be better to have a pcv catch can inbetween pcv and intake?
The lower intake is boost sensitive, not the blower.
Try a baffled catch can for better results or do like others and put on a set of breathers.
True
Breathers FAIL
I started with breathers, went to a baffled catch can.
Baffled catch can is THE way to go.
True.
Now that that is over..... I pretty much copied the stock Marauder way but in reverse order on bazzles ride is all and it works flawlessly. I saved him from smelling them OBNOXIOUS fumes that made my eyes water standing near it.
Why aren't more of you worried about the EGR and its ability to help cool the intake charge AND save some fuel?? That could be EASILLY addressed by reforming the wiper cowl.:shake: Seriously, get some spare plastic pieces, cut out a box, and plastic weld a box out. There is plenty of room before the wiper arm would hit.
EDIT Stay tuned on a SIMPLE fix to this...
musclemerc
02-06-2011, 09:43 AM
Good point Bob on the EGR. I have personally tried several times to get some interest in relocating the EGR valve somewhere else and keep the emmissions active, but I never got any interest from the Eaton swap crowd.
If you guys can pick ALL these parts and hunt through God knows how many for sale ad's on various mustang forums,
then do the install yourselve's why is the PCV and EGR considered impossible to complete?
The EGR is way too important of a device to delete.
justbob
02-06-2011, 09:47 AM
Quit beating a dead horse guys, for real..
Ofcourse a catch can is the best way to go!
My way 2nd
Then breathers..
I was trying to help the community with an ultra cheap solution, in under 20 minutes, to address breathers and there failability is all. Not reinvent the wheel.
SC Cheesehead
02-06-2011, 01:03 PM
Quit beating a dead horse guys, for real..
Ofcourse a catch can is the best way to go!
Ofcourse a Cobra set up is 2nd
My way 3rd
Then breathers..
I was trying to help the community with an ultra cheap solution, in under 20 minutes, to address breathers and there failability is all. Not reinvent the wheel.
Bob,
I for one was not trying to pee on your PCV mod, I think you've put together a very practical and economical system, and would recommend it to anyone looking for an alternative to breathers, but not wanting to shell out bucks for a a catch can system.
justbob
02-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Thanks Rex, that was the whole intention. Well, also to shut Bazzel the hell up and get him off my property.... LOL
Ummm those pictures look strangely familiar...
I'm happy no plans to change a thing, thanks Bob...
SC Cheesehead
02-06-2011, 03:14 PM
Thanks Rex, that was the whole intention. Well, also to shut Bazzel the hell up and get him off my property.... LOL
What, did he stop by for a little quality time this afternoon?
justbob
02-06-2011, 03:23 PM
Ummm those pictures look strangely familiar...
I'm happy no plans to change a thing, thanks Bob...
No problem man. glad she is running good for ya.:banana2:
What, did he stop by for a little quality time this afternoon?
NOPE. He has only called like twice since he sold off the car. He was alright, just a character.
SC Cheesehead
02-06-2011, 03:34 PM
No problem man. glad she is running good for ya.:banana2:
NOPE. He has only called like twice since he sold off the car. He was alright, just a character.
Ya think? ;) -------> :D
dohc324ci
02-28-2011, 11:52 PM
Good point Bob on the EGR. I have personally tried several times to get some interest in relocating the EGR valve somewhere else and keep the emmissions active, but I never got any interest from the Eaton swap crowd.
If you guys can pick ALL these parts and hunt through God knows how many for sale ad's on various mustang forums,
then do the install yourselve's why is the PCV and EGR considered impossible to complete?
The EGR is way too important of a device to delete.
What did you have in mind? Living in Cali and re-cert smog every two years having the EGR in place active and working is one less headache to worry about doing this conversion.
musclemerc
03-01-2011, 05:53 AM
I wanted to relocate the egr to the firewall, it wont fit on the SC with the wiper cowl in place. I wanted someone to bend up some 1/4" copper to use as a template then I will make the tubes out of 5/8" Stainless. You would have to extend the wiring harness to the new location
dohc324ci
03-01-2011, 10:21 AM
I wanted to relocate the egr to the firewall, it wont fit on the SC with the wiper cowl in place. I wanted someone to bend up some 1/4" copper to use as a template then I will make the tubes out of 5/8" Stainless. You would have to extend the wiring harness to the new location
I would be interested in the EGR Relocation for the Eaton. Probably all the Cali guys who do the Eaton would be too. Worse comes to worse I can always rely on my work around every 2 years but you never know out here...
musclemerc
03-01-2011, 07:16 PM
Man thats alot of work to undo every 2 years. The car gas to be running for an emmissions test so you are willing to go N/A every 2 years?
dohc324ci
03-01-2011, 07:28 PM
Man thats alot of work to undo every 2 years. The car gas to be running for an emmissions test so you are willing to go N/A every 2 years?
No Ive got another work around.
bugsyc
10-31-2011, 09:37 AM
How does deleting the EGR effect performance,mileage and anything else you can think of????I live in a state with NO emision standards or inspection.SOUTH CAROLINA
SC Cheesehead
10-31-2011, 11:00 AM
How does deleting the EGR effect performance,mileage and anything else you can think of????I live in a state with NO emision standards or inspection.SOUTH CAROLINA
Up until Bob came up with his EGR mod, everybody pretty much went with the EGR delete; that's what I'm running
Nor certain if there'd be a big difference with or without EGR relative to performance or mileage, other than perhaps lowering intake air temp a bit, but that's just my :twocents:.
99SVT
11-01-2011, 04:02 PM
How does deleting the EGR effect performance,mileage and anything else you can think of????I live in a state with NO emision standards or inspection.SOUTH CAROLINA
You'll end up with a slightly hotter combustion chamber temps at part throttle cruise and a slight decrease in part throttle cruising mileage, which may or may not be noticable. I didn't notice anything when I deleted mine aside from getting rid of an annoying tapping noise as the valve was opened and shut by the 1 header primary that it was attached to.
Drewstang
05-08-2017, 08:34 AM
Sorry to bump an old thread. My car is Eaton swapped and has two PCV's. The stock on the PS is connected to the intake tube going to the TB. The DS has a PCV stuck into a grommet and I have 03 Cobra cam covers. The DS feeds into a catch can and then back to the S/C. The DS PCV is a EV-111. Any suggestions or does this all sound right?
One pcv valve is gutted, on the PS side. If it is not, gut it. But you'd know it if it wasn't
Blown3.8
05-08-2017, 11:18 AM
Yes gut the passenger side/the side before the TB. That is your fresh air inlet to the block for the cross flow of the system.
Drewstang
05-08-2017, 11:52 AM
The DS is getting pushed out and the Cobra cam cover makes it hard to get to. I might switch out these covers while I'm at it.
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