By-Pass Oil Filter Pics

[1 BAD 03 MM]

Here are some pics of both the oil lines, and the two filters. One full flow filter, and one by-pass filter. Full flow filters to 20 microns @ 96% effenciency, by-pass filters to [B]1/10th of a micron[B], plus removes water (condensation) from the oil. (Especially good to prevent corrosion in an all aluminum engine.)

Car is dirty, sorry. It snowed here the past couple of days.

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[schuvwj]

Hey BAD how much oil did you gain 1qt. or 2qts. more?
Did the hoses come with the kit!
Looks great!

[mtnh]

How the heck do you get at those filters for a change? Or, are they lifetime? Nice install, I've been wondering where a relocated filter would be installable.

Mike

[1 BAD 03 MM]

schuvwj,
Hoses came with the kit. Gained about 1-1/2 to 2 Qts.

mtnh,
The first pic is from the ground looking straight up. Its easier to get to the filters than it is to the drain plug. The white filter is the full flow and gets changed every 12,500 mi. The black filter is the by-pass filter it gets changed every 25,000 mi. 2:1 ratio.

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[Ross]

Bad, do you still change the oil every 3000 miles, but don't change the filter until 12,500?

[Agent M79]

Does the bypass filter only get used if the full-flow filter is clogged up (as in a true "bypass" situation) or is it really being used all the time?

If it is used only under a true bypass situation, is there any way to tell this has transpired?

[1 BAD 03 MM]

OKay here is a link to the 411 on the By-Pass system.

http://www.amsoil.com/products/bf.html

And I'll let it be known, even though you'll all think I'm crazy, that I change my oil every 25,000 - 35,000 miles. Using oil analysis. They have done this in the trucking industry for years. Extended drain synthetics allow for this. This is the main reason I installed the By-Pass system. I intend to keep this car for a l..o..n..g time.

OK don't flame me too bad.:up:

[Ross]

If it works for you, great! I would just feel awfully strange not changing my oil/filter regularly and frequently, regardless of what oil/filter combination I was using. We all have to protect our cars the best that we can, and go with whatever we believe will give us what we need to do that. I'll be looking forward to seeing future posts from you with oil analysis. This is interesting.

[uwsacf]

ok = all kinds of questions...

where exactly did you mount it?

did you have to fab a bracket?

which kit did you get?

did it come with the adapter to replace the standard filter?

your pioneering efforts are greatly appreciated

[1 BAD 03 MM]

Mounted it on the radiator support brace. I think that's what it is. It has a large hole in the center. Yes I had a friend fab a bracket. Th bracket actually worked out where there was no drilling or welding on the car, a true bolt on.

The kit I got was the BMK-13, and yes it comes with the oil filter adapter to the block, and everything else you'll need except; 45 or 90 degree fittings, and the oil sampling petcock. I purchased (2) 45 degree fittings. (Forgot to show pics of the stock filter location. I'll do that now.) They are relatively cheap, so someone might want to buy a couple extra if you wanted to route the oil lines a little differently. I also had to purchase the oil filters themselves separately.

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Here is a pic of the adapter @ the stock filter location.

[junehhan]

I'm actually curious how that's affected your oil pressure. That looks like an aweful extra long distance that the oil now has to travel from your old oil filter location, to that location in front of the radiator. Also, what about possible damage to the filters with it being in front of the radiator?

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Not sure about the pressure difference. I still have the stock idiot gauge. As far as I know, and have studied, it should not make any difference. (The distance) What might make a difference is the actual full flow filter. I am anxious to replace the gauge with a real one to see.:up:

Most of my research has been done here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php

Also on the damaging of the filters, They are actually right behind the licese plate. They would have to take a direct hit from straight below. The filtration efficiency plus ease of changing the filters, when needed, makes it worth it.

[junehhan]

I'm an Amsoil dealer myself and have actually debated installing that setup on some of my previous vehicles, but chose not to mainly because you are now sending the oil an extra long distance via the hose required. The guy who actually signed me up as a dealer used to run the dual bypass setup on his Eagle Talon, but noticed that it was running at a bit lower oil pressure, especially at idle after the dual setup was installed. When he started using Series 2000 0w30, he further noticed another small pressure drop from when he was running 10w30. He has not been able to record any information as his motor blew soon after that which was attributed to him running too much boost from his turbo..............

The way I see it, is that the factory system was designed to work with a certain amount of oil pressure, at certain rpms. Even a small drop in oil pressure could potentially cause an issue, particularly at low or high rpms, especially in such a tight tolerance engine. Although I won't be adding a system like that to my Marauder, i'm definately curious to see how your engine copes, especially as you start logging on the miles and record the results of your oil analysis along the way.

[jgc61sr2002]

junehhan - Very good points. I would tend to agree.

[Amsoil_Dealer]

First of all I'd like to thank Bad for sharing this with us. It is a very nice installation.

As another Amsoil dealer, like June I have contemplated installing one of these kits on my car as well. The ease of access to the full flow almost looks like it would be worth the change. I agree and disagree with June's points however. First the disagreement.
I don't think the pressure drop across this system will be significant enough to make any difference in protection. The better filtration and increased capacity will be more helpful to preventing wear than any minor pressure loss (IMHO).

Second, I do agree with him that we need to see some oil analysis results from Bad's car to see how it works. What would be most significant is before and after oil analysis results. Bad, you mentioned that you have use oil analysis in the past. Do you have any results that you can share with us?

Don

[jgc61sr2002]

Amsoil_Dealer - Welcome aboard.:D

[Amsoil_Dealer]

Originally posted by jgc61sr2002
Amsoil_Dealer - Welcome aboard.:D

Thank you for the welcome. After browsing the site for an hour or so yesterday it looks like a pretty good learn and contribute.

I don't have a Marauder yet but I want one. I'd really like a Birch Silver one but lack of money and limited availability may mean I'll have to wait for a while. For the time being I have a 99 CV LX HPP, silver, black police grill and modified exhaust. It is not a Maruader but it gets the job done within my budget.

As my user name suggests, I am an Amsoil Dealer with over 5 years experience with the products. I am considring advertising on this site but have not made any commitments yet so I am not selling anything (yet). I have a lot to contribute regarding synthetic oils and oil analysis and will do so with as little bias as I know how.

Thanks again,

Don Stevens
www.lubedealer.com/dstevens

[Ross]

Howdy, Don, and welcome to the club. If you do a search, I think you will find a number of previous threads discussing the endless debate over synthetic vs. "natural" oils, viscosity, etc. which may interest you. Looking forward to your input.

[ahess77]

Would it be appropriate to install an oil cooler on this same line in series with the Amsoil type remote filter mount?
Would it be recommended to install the cooler before or after the filters (I assume hot oil filter faster than cold?)
Has anyone seen this done before? Pressure drop would increase with the increased line distance of an oil cooler, but does the high flow remote mounted filter cause less of a pressure drop than the normal stock filter anyway?

[Amsoil_Dealer]

You could install a cooler with this bypass system if you wanted. With synthetic oil and street applications though, an auxilliary cooler is not neccesary.

If you did install one it does make some sense to cool the oil after the filters. Not so much that warmer oil filters faster as this would likely be negligible. The reason you would want the filters first is because whatever metals or dirt that are in the oil are more likely to be in suspension straight out of the engine and thus are more likely to be caught by the filter.

Don

[Amsoil_Dealer]

I bought one of these kits for a customer with a Saturn and when we tried to install it, he chickened out. Not enough room under his hood. So, I have a brand new kit in stock for immediate delivery if anyone is interested. New price is $ 201.00. I'll let it go for $175.00 plus shipping.

Don