JFlave Upgrade

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well John sent the car here Thursday, the car is imaculate
I did a base pull with the Novi 1200 then the 2200 there was 45 rwhp gain doing nothing but the swap, Ihave the 1200 for sale for1000.00 free shipping I will post more tomorrow.

[ImpalaSlayer]

holy crap John, you only have the 1200 for a few months!

[dohc324ci]

Hmmm....1k for the head unit I assume? Interesting...

[RR|Suki]

holy crap John, you only have the 1200 for a few months!

well naturally, [insert Russian accent] 1000cfm is for little girl

[ImpalaSlayer]

well naturally, [insert Russian accent] 1000cfm is for little girl

more cfm for make great benefit of communist car

[jflave]

holy crap John, you only have the 1200 for a few months! Yea i know Dave but remember i'am getting old i have to do things when i think of them or i forget. (Cecil / Capital ):)

[ImpalaSlayer]

ha!!!! :lol:

[Dennis Reinhart]

The head unit has very few miles on it I will put what ever pulley you want on it and send three bottles of oil along with free shipping, the car is getting a new transmission 3500 PI Triple disk, I installed the Novi 2200, the car gained 45 RWHP and 3 PSI with just the upgrade, and the car was ten to one, this car will easily make over 600 RWHP on 93 octane. I will be going over the car and taking it to Gainesville, I will do a project with all the pictures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOJP8N4EtA

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[jflave]

Hey Dennis when do you sleep, :sleepy: posting at 12:47 AM but thanks.

[Dennis Reinhart]

I have issues with sleep, I have had it all my life.

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[Dennis Reinhart]

Today Steve relocated the line lock we are modifying the intake pipe and making a custom air box, and reworking some of the other pipes. Darrin sent a transmission, PI sent a converter, so we are moving on then I will concentrate on the tune and idle, and will get to Gainesville, when done. Pictures will follow.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is a quick update on Johns car, I have already changed the S/C from a Novi 1200 to a 2200 the car gained 50 RWHP with nothing more, I am doing a lot of cosmetic work , john had a 1" intake spacer I took that off I will be willing to bet this will have no effect or it will gain power, 1" is to much. So the intake is back on I sent two of his pipes out to be rewelded, and re'powder coated they should be back Monday then the car goes back on the dyno to verify results, I made a custom air box for the car as well, I probably will put a smaller pulley on it but for now I just want to get the car tuned right and drive right, we will be installing Darrins transmission and a PI 3500 Tripple disk, and a Muth Mirror kit this is on me, and I will show how easy it is done, we have plenty of work and I am going to the track Wednsday if we do not get rained out.

[jflave]

Hey Dennis, thanks for the mirror kit, i guess we'll see if that spacer i had made did any thing, made sense to me. :) GO FLYERS !

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well today I got the car back together the pipes came back from the powder coater, I am going to have the upper and lower intake done in silver, I replaced the Diablo Maf extender with a new cable so wires to not have to be cut, the extender was never used it is not needed with a HPX Maf, I made a custom air box and it fits perfect so tomorrow the car goes back to the dyno.

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[babbage]

Wow looks fantastic. Lots of nice upgrades! Great job Dennis

[jflave]

Looks great Dennis keep up the good work.:2thumbs:

[Glenn]

Nice work Dennis - great project. Looking forward to see your times.

Glenn

[Dennis Reinhart]

Today we installed the transmission and the 3500 triple disk, tomorrow it goes on the dyno, so I have Johns Novi 1200 that has less than 1000 miles on it as well as his 3500 single disk if any one would like a great deal as well, free shipping give me a call there both in the for sale section as well. I will post pictures tomorrow and I am going to Gainesville in my car, I am praying for no rain.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Today we installed the transmission and the 3500 triple disk, tomorrow it goes on the dyno, so I have Johns Novi 1200 that has less than 1000 miles on it as well as his 3500 single disk if any one would like a great deal as well, free shipping give me a call there both in the for sale section as well. I will post pictures tomorrow and I am going to Gainesville in my car, I am praying for no rain.


Sold the converter to day for 500.00:beer:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well Johns car is on the dyno, the slicks are on my car I am headed to Gainesville, here is Johns dyno sheet and you can see the difference between a Novi 1200/2200. I made no timing changes I only got the AF in the mid 11's so with more tweaking this car will be a contender, I will post the Video tomorrow.






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45.52 RWHP Gain
32.24 RWT
Boost gain of 3.11 PSI

[Dennis Reinhart]

When I dyno a car I take my time, The first thing I do is lock the trans in third so there are no downshifts at WOT, and then pull global timming. Then I start to work on AF the get it as straight as I can, then I start adding timing back, this will keep you from blowing up a engine on the dyno, now I was asked why I did not run the car to 7K by a person that as far as I know has never had a car on the dyno, but I more that any thing want to get along, if you look at the dyno sheet this morning the car made 636 RWHP at 6300 RPM the graph is not climbing so to me it is stupid to push the car to 7K just to say you can, this is my forum for my customers.

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[Dennis Reinhart]

I don't know that I agree...

With my D1SC setup power started falling off at about 6500.


Thanks Brian, if you look at the dyno sheet the car has a steady climb to 18 PSI, no belt slipage he is running a 8 Rib. This is the fourth or fifth pull the car is not even close to being dialed in, the ignore button does wonders. I hope all is well with you and your family.

[FordNut]

Originally Posted by FordNut

With my D1SC setup power started falling off at about 6500.

Thanks Brian, if you look at the dyno sheet the car has a steady climb to 18 PSI, no belt slipage he is running a 8 Rib.

Exactly the same as my experience. Boost kept climbing steadily with RPM's, HP started dropping off at 6500. It was tuned by 3 different people on 3 different dyno's with the same results.

[RR|Suki]

Exactly the same as my experience. Boost kept climbing steadily with RPM's, HP started dropping off at 6500. It was tuned by 3 different people on 3 different dyno's with the same results.

Hmm good info I really wanna get my car on the dyno now. Back when the rev limiter was at 6200 it def made power till the limiter. I'd like to see if mine stops at 6500 too now that I've moved the limiter out of the way. That would really help my shift point selection for the track. (6000, 6300, 6300 right now)

[J.bo]

When I dyno a car I take my time, The first thing I do is lock the trans in third so there are no downshifts at WOT, and then pull global tomming. Then I start to work on AF the get it as straight as I can, then I start adding timing back, this will keep you from blowing up a engine on the dyno, now I was asked why I did not run the car to 7K by a person that as far as I know has never had a car on the dyno, but I more that any thing want to get along, if you look at the dyno sheet this morning the car made 636 RWHP at 6300 RPM the graph is not climbing so to me it is stupid to push the car to 7K just to say you can, this is my forum for my customers.

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1276177563-JOHNL636.jpg

So is pulling global timing pulls timing across the entire rpm range? Or do you pull timing in certain rpm range also?

Reason I ask because back in my old 5.0 days we use to add timing to gain hp. Is the mod motor opposite?

[Dennis Reinhart]

So is pulling global timing pulls timing across the entire rpm range? Or do you pull timing in certain rpm range also?

Reason I ask because back in my old 5.0 days we use to add timing to gain hp. Is the mod motor opposite?


I pull global timing till I get the A/F correct and then start putting it back and adding timing through the entire spark table till I make peak power, the reason for pulling the timing when you first get started is, what happens if the car is lean at WOT, and you have a bunch in there of course its going to spark knock, which is not always heard, and is not a good thing, cars with knock sensors you can watch the knock table and see if they are pulling or adding timing, built motors the knock sensors are turned off, because of the cast block, Pro-charged cars have issues with noise from the S/C itself, so you adjust the knock table retard, Trilogy cars are the same the OEM knock sensor boss has to be ground down, for the lower intake to clear, the knock sensors are relocated but, in essence they will not be as accurate so again the retard table is adjusted and or the knock sensors can be turned off, either way A/F and spark is where you make the power at, insuring the car has a good fuel system, is imperative, as well as large enough injectors and Maf, and watching IAT Eaton's tend to become heat soaked more than centrifugal S/C, so all these things you should consider when choosing forced induction.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well we got a used tank and Adirian from mild to wild modified it and did a very good job, we decided to add the sump to prevent any chance of wirlpooling in the stock basket, Adrian cut the tank and opened it up and added large holes in the basket to ensure the basket stays full under load,

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I will post the complete install tomorrow. I want to thank John for sending me his dream, we have never met, but we will very soon, this is what I really love about this site.

so installed the tank today while Steve worked on a 56 Chevy he rejetted the carb and it gained 41 RWHP.


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[sailsmen]

Why was the tank modded?

[jflave]

Why was the tank modded?
I went to a return fuel set up #10 going in #8 on return. Where i installed the line at the tank (bad) at the time i thought would be ok but what happened was when i get down to about a 1/4 tank & get on it fuel is being forced away from the p/u line. I asked Dennis to fix & maybe he can explain better then me. 63 & still learning. :)

[musclemerc]

^^I was gonna say exactly that. My Dad has a 57 we did a fuel injected LS1 swap on and we got a new tank. I believe it was from tanksinc.com IIRC good quality and affordable

[Dennis Reinhart]

I went to a return fuel set up #10 going in #8 on return. Where i installed the line at the tank (bad) at the time i thought would be ok but what happened was when i get down to about a 1/4 tank & get on it fuel is being forced away from the p/u line. I asked Dennis to fix & maybe he can explain better then me. 63 & still learning. :)


Let me finish the install a picture will be far better and the write up

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well what we did is take a stock tank and had it sent out to have it modified wit a lower sump, John is using a Aeromotive A1000 FP dash 8 feed dash 6 return, the car originally had a dash six before the conversion to return fuel system, so what we did is flip the Kinsler dash six FF around so it filters return gas back to the tank, we had the whole primed to keep the rust down, the car goes back on the dyno, we are adding Muth Mirrors and a Aerforce guage where the Fuel pressure guage is at on the A Pillar.

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Here is a nice pair my first 2011 GT

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We added a new lower chin spoiler with fog light, he ordered a set of Kooks, and a CAK, will do a dyno before and a Dyno after. I hope to get Johns car to the track soon.

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[jflave]

Nice 5.0, good job on mine Dennis :2thumbs:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is a update on Johns car, he dropped off while down here in Florida and we did some cosmetic upgrades as well as refine the 8 rib setup he has, we redid all the pipes added a larger bypass. And I reworked the line lock, I will take this car to Gainesville for test and tune before he picks it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2PhO2u5Z-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2PhO2u5Z-g)


I will post pictures later this week.

[jflave]

Dennis, thanks for taking my car in on short notice. I'll try to get back when your done, nice garage. :)

[Dennis Reinhart]

You welcome John Chad is out pollishing chrome and I just had the car buffed and waxed.

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[CBT]

That is one clean machine.

[LANDY]

Dennis how much power she end up making.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is a nice pair.

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[jflave]

Dennis, thanks for finding the problem (ME), i should keep my hands out of the engine bay. Blue looks good also. :)

[Baconbit]

Those two are a cute couple! :lol:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well several weeks back I had Johns car at Gainesville after blowing away the slicks I managed to get the car to a 11.2 at 128 MPH and picked up a nail, so I ordered some new rinds for it and will have them on next week, John will be coming down for test and tune and will get behind this monster I am having the hood painted and adjusted for a better fit I will post up pictures and the latest dyno and video next week I will be in Daytona till next Monday but will have my cell phone if you need to call me the calls will be forwarded to my cell, I hope every one had a good week and weekend.

[LANDY]

That's a hood time Dennis, John you should fix you details so it can be in the 1st timeslip page.
That car is capable of 10's easy.
Dennis how much power did it endup making?

[ntd]

Sorry for the barrage of questions but I would love to know the details for this beautiful car

Engine- forged 10:1 compression IIRC, is it still a 4.6, any head work/cams?

Blower- Paxton 2200 looks to be 16psi on the dyno graph with an 8rib conversion what size blower pulley, does it have an OD balancer, what bypass are you using?

[Dennis Reinhart]

This car has a Fox Lake custom built motor, nine to one compression fully ported and polished heads, with comp cams all stainless steel retainers, cometic head gaskets with ARP head and main studs, melling oil pump 60 lb injectors, with Aeromotive fuel rails, SCT Maf, Nov 2200 with a 3.3 pulley 17 PSI 8 rib setup, PHP spacer, BC transmission PI 3500 triple disk Dynotech drive shaft, 410 gears 31 spline rear end, gas slotted rotors in the rear my 14" kit in the front, front and rear Addco sway bars Metco controll arms Metco drive shaft loop, auto meter gages, line lock, custom aluminum radiator dash 8 feed dash six return with a full Aeromotive return fuel system, with sump. Mickey Thomson slicks Mezirie electric water pump, high out put chrome alternator, pro guard skid plate. Muth mirrors. On a conservative tune with 93 Octane it made 625 RWHP, there is more to come.

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[jflave]

Dennis have a good time in Daytona & thank you. :)

[ntd]

Dennis nice work & thanks for the specifics. JFlave you sir have one killer car there

[CWright]

This car has a Fox Lake custom built motor, nine to one compression fully ported and polished heads, with comp cams all stainless steel retainers, cometic head gaskets with ARP head and main studs, melling oil pump 60 lb injectors, with Aeromotive fuel rails, SCT Maf, Nov 2200 with a 3.3 pulley 17 PSI 8 rib setup, PHP spacer, BC transmission PI 3500 triple disk Dynotech drive shaft, 410 gears 31 spline rear end, gas slotted rotors in the rear my 14" kit in the front, front and rear Addco sway bars Metco controll arms Metco drive shaft loop, auto meter gages, line lock, custom aluminum radiator dash 8 feed dash six return with a full Aeromotive return fuel system, with sump. Mickey Thomson slicks Mezirie electric water pump, high out put chrome alternator, pro guard skid plate. Muth mirrors. On a conservative tune with 93 Octane it made 625 RWHP, there is more to come.

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:awe: WOW! Thought I had a lot of $$$$$ in my car! Just when I thougth I was through modding!:hmmm::thinker:

[CBT]

On a conservative tune with 93 Octane it made 625 RWHP, there is more to come.

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:eek: This was the silver painted engine in the pics? Holy crap....

[jflave]

Thanks guys, believe me this is all DR's good work, best i could do with it was 11.7 @ 119 then i started going in the wrong direction, i should just keep my hands out of it. Dennis has had it a short time & made some adjustments, he has it going 11.2 @128 (Thanks Dennis). He thinks he will get it in the 10's without nos, will see. LANDY i'll post a timeslip when it does get in the 10's, DR has to do his magic, it's not easy.

[cpe6]

I hope I get close to that power; Dennis once again you are the man!!!!!

[cpe6]

the best i could do on street tires was 12.85 i told him i wanted to be in the 10's and let him work his magic. i havent gotten it back yet its a work in progress.


Thanks guys, believe me this is all DR's good work, best i could do with it was 11.7 @ 119 then i started going in the wrong direction, i should just keep my hands out of it. Dennis has had it a short time & made some adjustments, he has it going 11.2 @128 (Thanks Dennis). He thinks he will get it in the 10's without nos, will see. LANDY i'll post a timeslip when it does get in the 10's, DR has to do his magic, it's not easy.

[CWright]

Thanks guys, believe me this is all DR's good work, best i could do with it was 11.7 @ 119 then i started going in the wrong direction, i should just keep my hands out of it. Dennis has had it a short time & made some adjustments, he has it going 11.2 @128 (Thanks Dennis). He thinks he will get it in the 10's without nos, will see. LANDY i'll post a timeslip when it does get in the 10's, DR has to do his magic, it's not easy.


That's a fast car! I hope to see the 10's be broken with it! If anyone can squeeze out the power to get you there it's Dennis! Go get em'!:burnout::burnout:

[cpe6]

Hands Down!!!!!!

[cpe6]

Enjoy yourself Dennis.............

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well I have new rinds on the car new Muth Mirrors new hood and it makes a easy 625 RWHP on 93 octane, and about 675 on race gas this should get him to church on time. I will post more info on the car and some of the issues we found and fixed later on but I know John was waiting on this, I could not ask for a better customer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqHC67us9s

[jflave]

Hey Dennis, i'am a go for the first week of August i'll be down. Maybe wednesday night we can get it to the track if all is good to go, #'s look good. See you soon. :)

[Dennis Reinhart]

John was here this morning and is in the car now I will let him post up

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is what we are installing tomorrow.

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[LANDY]

Ohh yeah, those will make it stick, Hopefully the temp is not so hot on wednesday night.
Keep us posted on the results