My baby doesn't start!! HELP

[jimibrix]

Can anyone help me? My garaged 2003 300a ran fine just 2 weeks ago, but now is turning over but not firing. She has a bit of gas but how do I tell if gas is getting to the carb? Can anyone help guide me where to look for the fuel filter? I have only looked under the hood to check the fuse box, looks good. She's garaged and well kept with 10,300 miles on her. I am devistated, and I don't really want AAA to touch her. Help?
Also: In 2004 I put a Superchips superchip module (blue) in and had no issues. If the chip went bad could that cause this as well?

[Dennis Reinhart]

Can anyone help me? My garaged 2003 300a ran fine just 2 weeks ago, but now is turning over but not firing. She has a bit of gas but how do I tell if gas is getting to the carb? Can anyone help guide me where to look for the fuel filter? I have only looked under the hood to check the fuse box, looks good. She's garaged and well kept with 10,300 miles on her. I am devistated, and I don't really want AAA to touch her. Help?
Also: In 2004 I put a Superchips superchip module (blue) in and had no issues. If the chip went bad could that cause this as well?


Check to you have fire and fuel if you do pull the vacum line of the FRPS and crank the car and see if fuel is coming out of vacum port if it does the sensor is bad replace it and change the oil

[CBT]

Can anyone help me? My garaged 2003 300a ran fine just 2 weeks ago, but now is turning over but not firing. She has a bit of gas but how do I tell if gas is getting to the carb? Can anyone help guide me where to look for the fuel filter? I have only looked under the hood to check the fuse box, looks good. She's garaged and well kept with 10,300 miles on her. I am devistated, and I don't really want AAA to touch her. Help?
Also: In 2004 I put a Superchips superchip module (blue) in and had no issues. If the chip went bad could that cause this as well?

Turn the key over without starting the car, listen for the fuel pump "pumping" up the fuel line, do this a couple times, then try it again? Happened to me when I let mine sit for a month.

[jimibrix]

Okay. I hear nothing when I turn the key, (except the chime). Removed my air charger and used a little starting fluid and she turned for just a second. Okay, so I have ignition. Did anyone ever change the fuel pump relay in the engine compartment fuse box? I'd like to try that next. Is there some trick to removing the little white relay square fuse in the power box? I don't want to break anything. What do you think?

[jimibrix]

For the relays in the under hood fuse box, do I just force pull them out like a fuse? Or is there a connector I don't see somewhere?

[musclemerc]

They pull straight out.

[jimibrix]

Got it> Done. Switched it with the AC clutch module since they are the same, no luck. Is changing the fuel pump easy? How would I test the fuel pump?

[jimibrix]

Has anyone here changed their fuel filter? How easy is that? I've always done my own years back but never attempted it on Marauder. Where is it? On line manual says in the rear but I couldn't find it. I'd like to try to chg the filter before I try the pump.

[jimibrix]

Is the fuel pump located INSIDE the tank? How can I change it myself? I practically built my old 440 and 318 from the ground up by replacing parts, but that was a different time, and very different cars. I'd like to be able to service my baby myself. Can I do my own fuel pump? Where is my filter? Help?

[jimibrix]

My gut feeling is that my fuel pump is dead. But I'm not sure where it is.

[MM2004]

Yes. The fuel pump is in the gas tank.

The fuel filter is under the car.

Mike.

[LANDY]

Fuel filter is right in front of the rear passenger side wheel. On the inside part of the frame. Get underneath the car on the passenger side and look towards the the back, you will see the fuel line end at the filter then keep going to The tank.

[Stick]

Fuel filter is under the right rear door before the wheel well.Jack the rear end of the car in the air and let the differencial hang down to have easy access to the fuel pump which is in the front of the gas tank. Use jack stands to support the frame of the car. You have to rotate the pump as you remove it from the tank to get it out.Most fuel pump failers happen from not have enough gas in the fuel tank causing the pump to over heat and burn out. Never have less then a 1/4 tank of gas in the tank at all times because the fuel is use to cool the fuel pump.

[jimibrix]

Anybody want this car? 10,300 original miles. Figure $12,000. New Jersey.

[jimibrix]

You pull it out of my garage, you pay, you take it!

[LANDY]

Before taking the pump out, take the fuel filter out and have someone turn the ignition on for you. You should be able to see flow on the line feeding the filter. Then you will know if your problem is inside the tank or not. Use eye protection.

[LANDY]

You have a pm for the car.

[jimibrix]

What are the chances it could be the computer chip? WOuldn't I still get gas to the carb?

[jimibrix]

Yes I am interested in selling it. Let me see if I can get it out of my garage.

[jimibrix]

What is a pm?

[LANDY]

Give me a call at 352 5729980. All I need is some more info and you will have it out of there.

[SC Cheesehead]

What is a pm?

PM = Private Message. Look in the upper left corner of the web page, you'll see some info on posts, last, visit, and "Your Notifications." Click on that to access your Private Message page.

Also, FWIW, I know you're frustrated about the car not running, but do you really want to sell it for what is most likely a minor issue?

[jimibrix]

Listen, I'm frustrated, I'm angry. I've never loved a car so much in my life. I feel like crying like a little b**ch! The garage is tight. I can't get to the fuel lines. It sits too low to go under, the whole situation SUCKS!!!

[SC Cheesehead]

Listen, I'm frustrated, I'm angry. I've never loved a car so much in my life. I feel like crying like a little b**ch! The garage is tight. I can't get to the fuel lines. It sits too low to go under, the whole situation SUCKS!!!

Understood, but why not get somebody to help you push the car out, or maybe call towing company and have them pull the car out with a roll-on and have it taken down to a Ford dealership to run a diagnostic scan?

Will cost you around a $100, but the technician should be able to pinpoint the problem and get you back up and running in short order.

[LANDY]

Ok, once you get the car out the garage do what I told you with the fuel pump. And that should lead help you troubleshooting.

[Ms. Denmark]

If this was an '04 I'd be leaving my house as we speak to pick it up and take it off your hands! Could prolly be there in 2 hours.......:rolleyes:

[B.C. Bake]

From what you described don't mess with anything "BUT" the fuel pump. Search this sight for fuel pump, I think I picked mine up at Ford for 280.00, and you don't even have to drop the tank just loosen the bolts. The entire job took me about 40 minutes and a lot of enjoyment after "It's worth it". I have 14,000 on the car. :)

[LANDY]

Don't go out spending money before you find what's wrong. If its indeed the fuel pump you can find a Ford gt pump that's flows more fuel and won't hurt anything for 160 bucks.

[LANDY]

By the way Im ready to buy it yesterday.

[jflave]

Where is Aberdeen,NJ ???? I'am between exits 4 & 5 NJ turnpike, relax 10,000 miles WOW, can't be to bad. John 609-304-6403

[Local Boy]

OK, Brutha...

Settle down...

This is really a easy fix....If you had built cars in the past...you CAN do this...

Just take the time to get a manual, read up about it ...and the fear goes away...

You can do this!

I had the same fears also...just read alot and learned even more with the great help all these guys offer...

Start learning...and get back with us if you have questions along the way...

The Search button is your friend...

You'll thank yourself later...I promise..:)

Aloha

[ctrlraven]

First thing there is no carb, it's a Fuel Injection vehicle. lol

If you have felt you have exhausted all your efforts on the car then have it towed to your local trusted mechanic or dealership to find out what the problem really is and go from there.

[jimibrix]

No I know there is no carb. I removed the air charger and sprayed into the two large holes holding the throttle open. I turned the key and she started right up, and then died. There is no gas being injected, of that I'm sure. What I was asking is, it couldn't be my Superchips chip right? I mean fuel would still flow I would think. And another question is can a filter be that clogged that without warning all flow stops? To me, it sounds like a fuel pump issue. Either the relay, or a fuse or the pump itself. Relay was switched, fuses good, so to me sounds like the pump. But seems like it's going to be a big job. I can't find any how to websites, and my manual, although has a schematic, it just tells me where the parts are and the part numbers. No 'how to's' that I can find. Where did you guys look for detailed 'how-to' resources?????

[LANDY]

If you already troubleshooted and its the fuel pump. Disconnect the battery, jack up the vehicle, the pump its located in behind the watts link. Take out the bolts, work it out of the tank. It's gonna take a little patience if is your first time. After that, change the pump, get the right fuel pump hat, re install back in the tank. The rest is nothing.

[ctrlraven]

No I know there is no carb. I removed the air charger and sprayed into the two large holes holding the throttle open. I turned the key and she started right up, and then died. There is no gas being injected, of that I'm sure. What I was asking is, it couldn't be my Superchips chip right? I mean fuel would still flow I would think. And another question is can a filter be that clogged that without warning all flow stops? To me, it sounds like a fuel pump issue. Either the relay, or a fuse or the pump itself. Relay was switched, fuses good, so to me sounds like the pump. But seems like it's going to be a big job. I can't find any how to websites, and my manual, although has a schematic, it just tells me where the parts are and the part numbers. No 'how to's' that I can find. Where did you guys look for detailed 'how-to' resources?????
I bought the official Ford shop repair manuals.

Here is the repair manual and wiring diagram.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Grand-Marquis-service-manual-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem48 3bf19413QQitemZ310243333139QQp tZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiteratur e

Manuals say Crown Vic and Grand Marquis but do cover the Marauder.

[ctrlraven]

Also forgot to mention have you tried using another key to make sure the your one key did not lose it's programing? Also check the fuel cut off switch in the check on the left hand side, if it's popped up that will kill power to the fuel pump.

[Local Boy]

Also, you can search GT-40 fuel pump install the "how to's" is in there...complete w/ pics...This is the info. I used to replace mine...Not difficult, just takes patience...

Aloha

[jimibrix]

Hi Local Boy.... I put GT-40 fuel pump install but didn't get much info. Is there a website name that you found that gt-40 pump install?

[LANDY]

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Hi Local Boy.... I put GT-40 fuel pump install but didn't get much info. Is there a website name that you found that gt-40 pump install? on the search button, write gt 40. patiencely search thru the pages I'm sure you will find more than one installation write up.

[jimibrix]

Got the thread. Sorry. I got it now... Thanx. Let me check it out, step by step... looks good!

[jimibrix]

You guys are truly great! Thank God for this forum to give me the confidence to do this! All of you guys, thanks. This is the best forum on Earth! I'll let you know how it goes!

[LANDY]

Keep us posted.

[a_d_a_m]

So does this mean the car isn't for sale now? :lol:

[LANDY]

I'm still interested in the car. It's up to him. But he should also enjoy the vehicle.

[tbone]

Can anyone help me? My garaged 2003 300a ran fine just 2 weeks ago, but now is turning over but not firing. She has a bit of gas but how do I tell if gas is getting to the carb? Can anyone help guide me where to look for the fuel filter? I have only looked under the hood to check the fuse box, looks good. She's garaged and well kept with 10,300 miles on her. I am devistated, and I don't really want AAA to touch her. Help?
Also: In 2004 I put a Superchips superchip module (blue) in and had no issues. If the chip went bad could that cause this as well?

Carb?:confused:

$12,000 is too low a price with only 10,000 miles. Do us all a favor and raise it!

[justbob]

You do not need to loosen the tank bolts or disconnect any wires for a fuel pump job, just take the hangar off the right side tail pipe and remove the electric tape holding the harness to the other harness. easy peasy.

[LANDY]

You do not need to loosen the tank bolts or disconnect any wires for a fuel pump job, just take the hangar off the right side tail pipe and remove the electric tape holding the harness to the other harness. easy peasy. Bob if yu are refering to my quick letters on how to do it i meant the hat bolts to take tha assembly out. excuse my language difficulties.:beer:

[B.C. Bake]

You do not need to loosen the tank bolts or disconnect any wires for a fuel pump job, just take the hangar off the right side tail pipe and remove the electric tape holding the harness to the other harness. easy peasy.

Sounds like you never changed a MM fuel pump assembly?:confused::confused:

[justbob]

Bob if yu are refering to my quick letters on how to do it i meant the hat bolts to take tha assembly out. excuse my language difficulties.:beer:
No buddy, not reffering to you at all. Most here say to loosen the tank nuts, but that isn't needed, it will fit out without issue.:beer:

Sounds like you never changed a MM fuel pump assembly?:confused::confused:
Removing the whole assembly and taking it to a workbench no. Pumps yes. I change them in the air and have it down to around 30 minutes now start to finish on my back.

[LANDY]

Sounds like you never changed a MM fuel pump assembly?:confused::confused: they are many ways to do the job, the way Bob described its one of the quickest ways.

[CBT]

I change them in the air and have it down to around 30 minutes now start to finish on my back.
That's what guspech750 said.

[B.C. Bake]

Oh..........pump only. Now makes scents...:beer:

[jflave]

Anybody want this car? 10,300 original miles. Figure $12,000. New Jersey. Are you over it or do you still want to sell your MM ?? I have some one with $$$$ cash that i'll give your phone# to if you post it or PM me. Please respond Thanks, John :)

[LANDY]

Are you over it or do you still want to sell your MM ?? I have some one with $$$$ cash that i'll give your phone# to if you post it or PM me. Please respond Thanks, John :)
Sir, I pm'd about that car before. No disrespect but I got dibs.

[hwy73]

She has a bit of gas

I bet if he puts some fuel in the tank and resets the fuel-pump cut-off the car will start.

:popcorn::popcorn:

[jflave]

Sir, I pm'd about that car before. No disrespect but I got dibs. :dunno: All good just trying to help a friend. Did he ever get back to you (PM) ?? :)

[LANDY]

Nope, I send him two and my phone # too. I'm willing to fly up there and hand over the cash. Thanks jflave.
Jflave is your car done? I remember seen it at Dennis place, is sure sweet.

[jflave]

Yes & no, It's a major busy time of the year for me at work till about October so i eat, sleep, work & get fatter, not much else 24/7 on call. Cars done but i keep calling Dennis with defferent ideas to try on the car, Some work some don't. I hope to be down there when things ease up & i may run it at Gainsville before i bring it back to NJ, I'll let you know when i head south.

[LANDY]

Sounds good jflave, let me know, Im only 13 miles away from the track. It would be fun seeing that beast at the track.

[LANDY]

Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Did you start the car yet?

[Ms. Denmark]

Hope it all worked out for him. Seems to have vanished into thin air after all the hysteria. :dunno: Beginning to wonder if this guy and his car ever really existed LOL!

[B.C. Bake]

Naa, he's gonna get down and dirty and change that pump......I got this gut feelen...:coolman: