2003 MM Production Quantities Posted [Archive]

Blue03

12-05-2003, 06:51 PM

Well I followed SergntMac's suggestion (11-21-03) and called STAP to see if I could learn the numbers by color. After a voice mail and email the results are...

Blue - 328
Silver Birch - 417
BLack - 7094

That totals 7839 MM's for 2003 according to STAP.

Maybe we ought to make it 327 Blues due to that crispy critter that is showing up on ebay! It looks more like a parts car these days!

Cheers All

Marauder57

12-05-2003, 07:04 PM

Boy I am glad I got the Blue when I did.....

And one of those is the Supercharged Dennis Reinhart special!

:D

PAPAJOHN

12-05-2003, 07:23 PM

Any numbers available for the 04's to date?

SergntMac

12-05-2003, 07:46 PM

No one is ever satisfied...

Hey Blue 03...Nice job, my man. Bravo! I am very pleased that you got a number to start from. Keep watch on that, and keep your connection with STAP open. Nurse it if you have too.

Gosh...I love this site.

TAF

12-05-2003, 07:50 PM

I think the price of Shuley's car just went up...up through the roof!!! :lol::lol::lol:

Marauderman

12-05-2003, 07:54 PM

Maybe the next "all paint job" should be considered "Blue" eh?

teamrope

12-05-2003, 10:15 PM

OUTSTANDING JOB MAN!
I'm sure I'm not the only one corperate blew off with the following reply: :rolleyes:

Thank you for your message of 12/4/03 regarding your 2003 Mercury
marauder. We appreciate the time you have taken to write us requesting
the productions figures for this vehicle.

We are very pleased to hear from one of our loyal Mercury Marauder
customers such as yourself. The Marauder's muscle sedan label is
further reinforced by its aggressive muscle car rake. Slightly higher in
the back, and lower in the front, the Marauder looks as if it's ready to
pounce at the first flash of green.

Unfortunately the production figures for the 2003 model year will not be
available until early 2004.

Thank you for your patience and cooperation with this matter. According
to Ford Motor Company Chairman, Bill Ford, "A good company delivers
excellent products and services; a great one does all that and strives
to make the world a better place."

At Ford Motor Company, we consider the satisfaction of our customers as
one of our most important objectives. If you have any other inquiries
or concerns, please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to
address them.

Thank you for contacting Ford Motor Company.

Sincerely,
Simone
Ford Motor Company
Customer Relationship Center

01 Interceptor

12-06-2003, 03:59 AM

Hey Blue03! Howdy neighbor, I just noticed you live in my neck of the woods. Did you buy your MM at Harbour Pointe by chance?

Blue03

12-06-2003, 10:08 AM

Sorry PAPAJOHN, I did not ask about the 04's. I think my timing was lucky for the 03 info. It's probably a little early to check in on the 04's.

Blue03

12-06-2003, 10:45 AM

Hi Interceptor...Neighbors indeed! I was begining to think I was all alone out here in Western Washington and then you and Teamrope (Yelm) show up. I did not buy my MM from HP. I bought several other cars from them though. The Blue I looked at there had a Dark Charcoal interior, changer and w/o heated seats but was sold before I got serious. I wanted the Light Flint and heated seats. I had to go to Puyallup to find my Blue. If "soon" is this month for your MM purchase, I know of 1 Blue, 1 DTR 04, 2 Black 300B's and 1 Black 300A (at HP) on dealer lots from my searching earlier. PM me and I will get into it more if you would like. Cheers!!!

MAD-3R

12-06-2003, 12:59 PM

Ok, I don't want that info lost. YO!1 Mods!! Put it in the FAQ?

nslatin

12-06-2003, 01:39 PM

Hate to be picky but any chance of breaking down the 417 Silver Birch between Light and Dark Interiors? I still feel pretty good about being 1/417, and knowing that it may be even rarer feels even better.

Thanks,

Neal

SILVERMARAUDER

12-06-2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by nslatin
Hate to be picky but any chance of breaking down the 417 Silver Birch between Light and Dark Interiors? I still feel pretty good about being 1/417, and knowing that it may be even rarer feels even better.

Thanks,

Neal
WOW finally someone got the info i have been looking for this for a while thanks very much for the info. and as to the dk or light int most of the silvers i have seen were light so far. i love the dark i better since that is what i have! And what is STAP?

SergntMac

12-06-2003, 03:44 PM

'03 sales of the '04 should be available by 15 Jan '04, I'll let you know.

Blue03

12-06-2003, 04:31 PM

2003_MM_FYRE49

12-06-2003, 04:42 PM

Owning a pre-decontented 300B I would be interested in knowing how many of those vehicles were built. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Tim :fire: 49

RCSignals

12-06-2003, 06:09 PM

not to be picky, but there were a few Blacks built with the light flint interior. At least one person here has one I think.

If I had to guess, blue with the Dark charcoal interior will be the lowest production, followed by Silver with the Dark charcoal interior.

The number of Black with light flint will be small too.

RCSignals

12-06-2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by 2003_MM_FYRE49
Owning a pre-decontented 300B I would be interested in knowing how many of those vehicles were built.
I'd be surprised if those were built for more than a month and a half

teamrope

12-06-2003, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Blue03
Hi Interceptor...Neighbors indeed! I was begining to think I was all alone out here in Western Washington and then you and Teamrope (Yelm) show up. I did not buy my MM from HP. I bought several other cars from them though. The Blue I looked at there had a Dark Charcoal interior, changer and w/o heated seats but was sold before I got serious. I wanted the Light Flint and heated seats. I had to go to Puyallup to find my Blue. If "soon" is this month for your MM purchase, I know of 1 Blue, 1 DTR 04, 2 Black 300B's and 1 Black 300A (at HP) on dealer lots from my searching earlier. PM me and I will get into it more if you would like. Cheers!!! Finally found you guys..Mine came from Lincoln Murcury of Olympia. I wonder who got the 1st two from Harnish early in the year. (They are a 4 star dealership so they had 3 total):cool:

Blue03

12-06-2003, 11:04 PM

Hi SILVERMARAUDER...STAP is Ford's St. Thomas Assembly Plant in Ontario. Our Marauders, Crown Vics and Grand Marques are made there. Cheers!

ADE 1000

12-07-2003, 10:49 PM

Wow, only 328 blue ones. That is very sweet.

Any regrets I had about not buying a black 04 just disappeared.

1 BAD 03 MM

12-07-2003, 11:45 PM

This place is great. I am one of those who purchased a black 03' 300A from HARNISH LM. When I was looking, they had (1) Blue, (1) Silver, (1) Black.

I almost bought that blue one. There were some paint blemishes, and dents on the silver. I went with the black because, I love black (except to keep clean), and it did not come with traction control. A feature that I did not want.

Considering the numbers distributed to the Northwest, that makes us an even rarer commodity up here. Nice to stand out from the BMW, Mercedes, Acura, Lexus, Ricer, crowd. While standing tall when some schooling needs to take place.:up:

woaface

12-08-2003, 08:07 PM

So Car and Driver BSed everyone when they said it was 2300 somethin? Damn...

RedMM

12-08-2003, 08:58 PM

The average car rag..err mag is so pro foreign/elitist and so anti domestic car EVERYTHING, that I HONESTLY believe that if they loved and enjoyed a domestic ride (such as our beloved MM's) their elitist attidude would not allow any kind words or praise(what would the other guys down at the office think of me if I admitted I like one of "THOSE". This pattern of snobbish thinking is sad, because so many fine cars are never even given a kind word of any sort. Our domestic companies seem to have the "red haired step child complex" towards their own vehichles, at times. Tragic thinking that cheats some sweet rides from a fair shake at greatness. During my life long love affair with many Fords, Lincolns, Mercurys and yes, EVEN 3 Chrysler products, I've never ONCE even considered a ToY-oh-duh, Hahn-duh, BM Dumbya, More say deez, etc. and I guarantee I will never! I love the term "ricer" that so many of you use and my heart would soar with happiness if others(my sincere gratitude to the many of you who clearly feel the same way I do) could open their minds, close their snobbery and just give some awsome US or Canadian built cars a FAIR chance shake. It saddens me to know that the hour is near for Toyo-duh will bump FoMoCo from the #2 spot. I go out of my way to plug FoMOCO to anyone I can and hope others will do the same. MM's friends, what do you think? THANK YOU

cruzer

12-08-2003, 09:45 PM

FYRe49, Ihave a pre-decontented 300B, blck, charcoal interior, shifter shaft black w/black leather cover---has ALL 300A features including windshield. I know of mine--built 11/12/02---martyo's built 11/04/02 (Has chrome shafted shifter and bezel) and yours--seems like we have pretty well bracketed the build times, now all we need is to find the owners of the others. , Maury

teamrope

12-08-2003, 09:50 PM

Forein cars are so over rated. When I was stationed in Germany, over the course of 5 years I owned 1 Mercedes 230, 3 BMWs, (318, 520 & 525) and German Ford Sierra. (Marketed in the US as a Mercur) Of the european cars I owned, the Ford had the smallest engine (1.6) and the 2nd fastest top speed at 140 MPH. The 525 would have remained slower if an old German mecanic hadn't showed me how to "uncork" the govenor) I bought my 1st GM (An 82) from someone going back to the states, and I was hooked. I've had 2 since and now, the MM!

2003_MM_FYRE49

12-09-2003, 08:14 AM

Hey Maury, mine was built the day before yours and Marty's was built a week before mine. I truely belive that we have the rarest vehicles out of the bunch. I know when I was shopping for the car I only saw one other pre-decontented 300B. I hope we can get the figures on them.

Tim :fire: 49

woaface

12-09-2003, 01:07 PM

I don't think Car and Driver is too elitist. One of their editors recently wrote an article very much in favor of SUV's after an interview with Bill Orielly (who isn't in favor of them much) on his radio show. I can also recall an article where the Escort SVT, Civic SI and the VW GTI were tested and the SVT came out in first place. The Escort has also been on the ten best list the last several years just as the Corvette has. I do think, however, that the people at Car and Driver have a specific taste in cars which happens to be the flavor many foreign manufactures provide. Remember, even while they didn't give the Marauder the benifit of the doubt, they took a good liking to the Marauder S. There were very few complaints about the stock Marauder they tested. Wasn't AS fast as they liked, seats were a little awkward, ride was a little bit harsh, blah blah...very minor things. Which I think is damn good for a car that just came out. And they said many good things about the car. Anyways, that's just my opinion...

213Cobra

12-09-2003, 02:27 PM

I know Mercury wanted to sell over twice as many of these cars as the 7,839 produced in 2003. But this number is 2,845 more than the first SVT Cobra in 1993, not far from the Cobra production most years since then, and exceeds the ~6,500 Bullitt Mustangs and Mach 1s built each year of their production. Those limited production cars are profitable for Ford and improve brand cachet, so why not keep the Marauder? Even if they do kill the existing motor an SVT-style massage job on the 3v with the existing chassis and cosmetic refinements would meet the need, and when they do the redesign of the platform in the next couple of years I am sure it won't be difficult to borrow a motor from one of the specialty Mustangs that Ford says they will continue to make after the new platform debuts next Fall. With some education and exposure, I think 15,000 - 20,000 Marauder sales annually is feasible if the car were just marketed correctly.

Phil

woaface

12-09-2003, 02:36 PM

I agree..15000 to 20000 anually if done right...

GordonB

12-10-2003, 11:04 AM

Glad I got my Blue one with Light Flint when I did! Never dreamed it was so rare!
GordonB

Glenn

12-14-2003, 05:05 PM

My '03 Black MM was produced on 12/02/02 and is a decontented 300B with the Light Flint Interior. Apparently the LFI was available about the end of November, 2002. The LFI in any color is rare. I had a choice of 3 Black MMs sitting on the dealer's lot for over 4 months. One had the LFI and I liked the color constrast with the black exterior and DC interior colors. I don't regret the decision and its 30 degrees cooler inside than a black interior on a hot summer day.

Glenn

MM4ME

12-14-2003, 11:21 PM

Have recently started looking at MM's and dont know all the facts yet....can you explain what the "decontented" is and when it happened so I will know what I am missing?

Thanks!!

bigslim

12-14-2003, 11:49 PM

There were some things that the 300A model had that the 300B model dosn't have. The list of things the 300A had were:
1. Map pockets in the front seats.
2. A light under the hood.
3. A fuel filler door release
4. A stand alone clock in the dash
5. Covers for the rear speakers.
The 300B came with taction control. Also welcome to the site MM4ME. This is the best site to learn about this great car.

MM4ME

12-14-2003, 11:55 PM

So Fyre's MM has all of those things even though it is a 300B?
I looked at a silver 2003 and it said it was a 300B. Now I know what not to look for....:)

Thanks!!

Blue03

12-15-2003, 12:18 AM

I believe the 300A has an automatic parking brake release when you shift the tranny into drive from park like my 95 GM LX w/HPkg. My 300B does not have an auto brake release. Also my 300B has a light under the hood. Go Figure

jgc61sr2002

12-15-2003, 06:22 AM

Mine also has the underhood light.

MM4ME

12-15-2003, 07:20 PM

Im a former Taurus SHO owner (95 MTX) and we went through the decontenting with the 3d generation cars, 96-99. I am hoping the MM gives me the same smile that my SHO did at 135mph....:)

jgc61sr2002

12-15-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by MM4ME
Im a former Taurus SHO owner (95 MTX) and we went through the decontenting with the 3d generation cars, 96-99. I am hoping the MM gives me the same smile that my SHO did at 135mph....:) Welcome aboard. The only difference is you won't be able to wipe the smile off your face.:D Enjoy your new ride.:up:

2003_MM_FYRE49

12-16-2003, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by MM4ME
So Fyre's MM has all of those things even though it is a 300B?
:)

Thanks!!

That's correct Tom, I have all the things that the 300A has except for the full size spare because of the traction control. This is why I believe that the few of us that have those vehicles have the rarest of the Marauders. I am certainly interested to see the numbers on the pre-decontented 300B's.

Tim :fire: 49

60birdtom

12-18-2003, 08:21 AM

Great to have those production figures....but I have a question: Are they total Annual Production Figures (total built in 2003) or 2003 Model Year Production Figures (all 2003's built including those from 2002)?

I'm glad that I own a 300A even if it's not the rarest of the breed --- I like the Package Content and would really miss some of the stuff that was deleeted from the 300B.

Blue03

12-18-2003, 11:08 PM

I believe they were the total 03 Model Year numbers.

Bigdogjim

12-19-2003, 12:06 AM

Thanks Blue03.

It was good of you to post the info...

Many of us wonder about thses things..........'

Thanks again:):):)

STLThunder

01-02-2004, 11:41 AM

Is this the winter of our de-content? Sorry for the bad joke.

Crown Vic

01-02-2004, 09:23 PM

Wow...I thought it was more like 15,000. If I recall correctly, there were only less than 1,500 CV Sports made for 2002 since it was a very short model year. 2002, for the CV, was about 6 months long. 2003's were introduced earlier than normal.

Tweety

01-02-2004, 11:15 PM

Blue, can you get #'s for black A's & B's?

mrsmarauder

01-06-2004, 09:33 PM

Hello,
Would'nt the 300B made in Nov'02 with the standalone clock, remote gas door button, automatic brake release, underhood light
and whatever was before the decontented models be the rarest since they were only built for a 45 day period ?

Thank ypu............

Big Joe P

01-21-2004, 03:59 AM

Mine has a build date of 11/15/02. I'm happy that I have all of the "good" stuff, before it was removed........

cyclonecj

02-16-2004, 09:36 PM

Why get all worked up about having/not having a clock and other doodads that are meaningless, worrying about future perceived collector value, then heavily modifying the car destroying any true collector value? Bolt on or not, it's modified and will never be the same. I have only been on this site for two days and I'm already sick of the "pre-decontented" BS. Just my .02, just drive the damn thing.

TAF

02-16-2004, 09:52 PM

MERCMAN

04-19-2004, 05:27 PM

anyone have production figures for '04?

Blue03

04-19-2004, 11:16 PM

anyone have production figures for '04?

I was gonna wait another month or so before checking on the 04's. Not sure when the last 04 will run down the line. Maybe the folks going to the STAP tour will get some good info...or someone else will hear before then.

Cobra25

04-20-2004, 06:25 AM

All I have to say is I got 1 of the 417 Silver 2003 Marauders made in the world. And it has about 5000 miles on it. So I'm one of the few.

bnrparker

05-04-2004, 07:02 PM

Yea Ha!!! I knew I picked the blue for a reason I just didn't know till now what that reason was, now I do. We have the charcoal int with heated seats and rear deck spoiler, that's it no fancy stuff for us.
We bought this car as a collector car to begin with and we will have had it for 1 year June 4th, after going to Houston for Fun Ford we have 8200 miles. Now I don't even want to take it out of the garage!! :rock:
I'm so stoked with those numbers I could puke!! :puke:

duhtroll

05-04-2004, 07:38 PM

Now that the numbers are up this ebay auction looks good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2476430241&category=6882

Silver03MM

06-18-2004, 07:35 PM

Thank you for the production reply silver and blue i guess are pretty rare then for '03. Which is good to know in like 20 years they will be even less common. Due to paint jobs and car accidents even though i would really hate to see a Marauder totaled or have a pink marauder or something stupid. :eek:

Lou

06-24-2004, 07:43 AM

Anyone have an idea yet on the 2004 production numbers?!?!?!?

duhtroll

06-24-2004, 08:39 AM

Bluerauder

06-24-2004, 09:39 AM

Well, seeing as (I think) today is the last MM production day, we won't know numbers for a few months yet. Probably next year when they get it all done. Don't know why on earth it should take that long -- they should have a computer on the assembly line that goes "1, 2, 3, etc." but I guess that would be adding to the sticker price. :P

-A
MercDaddy posted some 2004 Production numbers in another thread. See link below.
Some Preliminary 2004 Production Figures (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10800&highlight=production)
This gives a pretty detailed breakout of colors, interiors and some options as well.

duhtroll

06-24-2004, 09:47 AM

So even for us black MM owners it looks like perhaps less than 10K total. Not bad at all!

-A

Pete F.

09-13-2004, 12:22 PM

It would be really interesting to see a list of all the specialty performance models (the Pontiac GTO and Chevy SSR come to mind) that sell WAY LESS than the Marauder but are NOT getting cancelled like the Marauder. As one who would have really liked to see Mercury incrementally improve and develop the Marauder over the next few years (with an eye towards buying a new one a few years from now) it makes me angry!

Do the execs at Lincoln Mercury really wonder why they keep losing market share? Chrysler actually IMPROVED their market share with the introduction of the 300 performance sedan. A slightly tweaked, improved Marauder would have been PERFECT to give the 300C some healthy competition.

Well, on the other side of Detroit, GM realized the error of their ways and is planning to bring back the Camaro by 2007. Maybe a few years from now, when the consumer desire for RWD, V8 sedans really gets going, Ford will bring back the Marauder.

Lou

09-27-2004, 10:46 AM

Did Anyone get a 2004 total yet?:bunny2:

Bluerauder

09-27-2004, 11:13 AM

Did Anyone get a 2004 total yet?:bunny2:
Lou,
Check here ..... 2003 and 2004 Production Numbers (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11773)

maraudernkc

10-04-2004, 03:27 PM

Yes, I posted another thread 0n the 04MM totals

Any numbers available for the 04's to date?

maraudernkc

10-04-2004, 03:33 PM

Hey guys, I have another thread that has the 04 production of the MM. It breaks it down by options except for sun roof.

Thanks, Greg

maraudernkc

10-14-2004, 01:24 PM

did the B ALSO HAVE DUAL KNOCK SENSORS?

There were some things that the 300A model had that the 300B model dosn't have. The list of things the 300A had were:
1. Map pockets in the front seats.
2. A light under the hood.
3. A fuel filler door release
4. A stand alone clock in the dash
5. Covers for the rear speakers.
The 300B came with taction control. Also welcome to the site MM4ME. This is the best site to learn about this great car.

maraudernkc

10-14-2004, 01:28 PM

I posted the o4 numbers on another thread.

Anyone have an idea yet on the 2004 production numbers?!?!?!?

Racerx88

10-14-2004, 02:31 PM

did the B ALSO HAVE DUAL KNOCK SENSORS?
No, the '03 300B did not have dual knock sensors. That was an addition for '04.

SC Cheesehead

12-01-2004, 04:02 PM

As a matter of fact, I already have requested info on the interiors for both the Silver Birchs and Blues. I even asked how many might have the heated seats. I hope I didn't over do it and the requests get round filed. I'll let you know if I get anything I can post later next week. I'll be in Lost Wages for a few days.
Cheers
Hey guys, check out http://www.mercurymarauder.org/ the site lists production numbers for all MM production, '63-65, 69-70, and '03-04.

It also breaks down production by interior color, heated sets, etc. The blues and the DTR's with light flint interiors are the rare ones.

SCCH

SCCH

SC Cheesehead

12-01-2004, 04:06 PM

Thanks Blue03.

It was good of you to post the info...

Many of us wonder about thses things..........'

Thanks again:):):)Hey guys, if you're looking for detailed production data on the MM, check out http://www.mercurymarauder.org/

The site has a link that lists production numbers for all MM production, '63-65, 69-70, and '03-04, lots of detail info on the '04's by interior color, heated seats, CD changers, etc.

SCCH

SCCH

Dennis Reinhart

12-02-2004, 07:24 PM

MM03MOK

12-02-2004, 07:44 PM

From Steve Babcock speaking at the IMOA banquet:

Production numbers for the Mercury Marauder:

2003 - 7839 (328 Blue, 417 Silver, rest black .. 7094)

2004 - 3213 (980 DTR, 997 Silver, 1236 Black)

Total production, 03 and 04 was 11,052

Racerx88

12-03-2004, 10:09 AM

From Steve Babcock speaking at the IMOA banquet:
Production numbers for the Mercury Marauder:
2003 - 7839 (328 Blue, 417 Silver, rest black .. 7094)
2004 - 3213 (980 DTR, 997 Silver, 1236 Black)
Total production, 03 and 04 was 11,052
Yes, but does anyone have the FINAL 2004 breakdown by exterior color, interior color, AND options?????

GarageMahal

12-03-2004, 10:11 AM

Yes, but does anyone have the FINAL 2004 breakdown by exterior color, interior color, AND options?????

Check out our .org cousins here (http://www.mercurymarauder.org/cgi-bin/immc-prod.cgi). Not sure how FINAL they are however.

jta

Racerx88

12-03-2004, 12:55 PM

Check out our .org cousins here (http://www.mercurymarauder.org/cgi-bin/immc-prod.cgi). Not sure how FINAL they are however.
jta
Been there done that. They're just reporting the same numbers first reported on MM.net back in June. We still need the final numbers.

GarageMahal

12-03-2004, 12:57 PM

Been there done that. They're just reporting the same numbers first reported on MM.net back in June. We still need the final numbers.

Sorry, I kinda figured that after re-reading the entire thread :o

MM03MOK

12-03-2004, 01:36 PM

Been there done that. They're just reporting the same numbers first reported on MM.net back in June. We still need the final numbers.Since Steve Babcock mentioned the same numbers (by color) at MVII at the end of July and production ended the middle of June, I suspect those are the final numbers. Also, the info on ".org" is the first additional breakdown I've seen on interior color, CD changer and heated seats.

SouLRioT

12-28-2004, 04:25 PM

This might be asking too much but I haven't seen any post about the breakdown of 2003 Marauder exterior color/interior color and 300a vs 300b. Anyone have that info?

WantOneSoBad

02-05-2005, 12:49 AM

I had heard some rumors about some police interceptor MM's. I was wondering if this is true and was wondering where I could fine more information on them if it is.

MM03MOK

02-05-2005, 06:32 AM

I had heard some rumors about some police interceptor MM's. I was wondering if this is true and was wondering where I could fine more information on them if it is.There are law enforcement departments that have Marauders in their fleet, most noticeably, the Floriday Highway Patrol.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14487

Off the assembly line, these cars are no different than ours. No fact to the rumor.

:welcome: WantOnSoBad!!!

Dennis Reinhart

02-05-2005, 06:46 AM

There are law enforcement departments that have Marauders in their fleet, most noticeably, the Floriday Highway Patrol.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14487

Off the assembly line, these cars are no different than ours. No fact to the rumor.

:welcome: WantOnSoBad!!!
Now Mary I think the sirens do make the cars go faster than ours LOL:banana:

WantOneSoBad

02-05-2005, 08:18 PM

Oh ok, I had read multiple articles on those cars too. I just wasn't sure if they came with extras like the CV police interceptor did such as oil and transmission coolers and etc. I just wanted one that I know could take a beating but I guess I can buy aftermarket products to get what I want, and thanks for the welcome.