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bobsawyer7
09-13-2010, 07:33 PM
Under this new plan, proposed by the Administration, if it ain't electric it can't get a score of A. :mad2:
Get past the first two paragraphs for the info.
Is there anything we can do in November to start some changes?
http://www.redstate.com/tags/index.php?tag=smell-the-smug

MrBluGruv
09-13-2010, 07:48 PM
South Park once did an episode on a similar subject.

One of the boy's family bought a hybrid car (obviously a Prius from the artwork), and found that South Park "just wasn't with the times because they still drove the gas guzzling pickup trucks". So they picked up and moved to California, where everyone drove a hybrid car. While indeed smog was greatly reduced, the hot air from everybody bragging about how environmentally conscious they were (which was then dubbed "smug") manifested into a massive pollution cloud, which joined with a similar cloud from a George Clooney speech (award acceptance from years back, I don't remember entirely) to become a perfect storm of smug and wiped out the entirety of San Francisco.

The show may be crass at times, but it's hilariously and frighteningly spot-on with its political and social commentary, especially later in the series.

FordNut
09-13-2010, 07:54 PM
Under this new plan, proposed by the Administration, if it ain't electric it can't get a score of A. :mad2:
Get past the first two paragraphs for the info.
Is there anything we can do in November to start some changes?
http://www.redstate.com/tags/index.php?tag=smell-the-smug
Anxiously awaiting 2012.

SpartaPerformance
09-13-2010, 08:07 PM
Under this new plan, proposed by the Administration, if it ain't electric it can't get a score of A. :mad2:
Get past the first two paragraphs for the info.
Is there anything we can do in November to start some changes?
http://www.redstate.com/tags/index.php?tag=smell-the-smug

Once its well know that Obama's "pals" such as George Soros and Van Jones belong on committees and in banks and lending positions and high ranking positions in these so called "green" companies then people will understand its about all of them making money and grabbing massive amounts of power!


Anxiously awaiting 2012.

Don't wait until 2012, we have important mid term elections coming up in less then 60 days we can stop them NOW, if we wait 2 years we're dead!

dohc324ci
09-13-2010, 08:51 PM
Whats wrong with you people. In my town we have dedicated parking stalls for all electric/hybrids. First class treatment, neighbors will be envious coworkers will accept you and you will be saving the world at the same time. I feel better already just thinking I would be doing my part to help. I found a new religion.

FordNut
09-14-2010, 05:30 AM
Once its well know that Obama's "pals" such as George Soros and Van Jones belong on committees and in banks and lending positions and high ranking positions in these so called "green" companies then people will understand its about all of them making money and grabbing massive amounts of power!



Don't wait until 2012, we have important mid term elections coming up in less then 60 days we can stop them NOW, if we wait 2 years we're dead!

This November might stop the downward spiral, but until 2012 it won't make a big difference in turning things around due to veto power.

BlueFusion
09-14-2010, 06:55 AM
As I just saw on a repeat of Top Gear last night...A VW diesel MPG >>>>>> Hybrid MPG. Diesel costs massively less and doesn't require the very ungreen materials to make the large batteries that last only a few years before they lose the ability to hold a sufficient charge.

The smug is going to kill us all.

http://scottnsara.com/blog/uploaded_images/1002_driving_off-738298.jpg

illwood
09-16-2010, 07:43 AM
The trouble with all of this green marketing is that no-one is looking into all of the factors.

MPG is not the end-all-be-all.

What about all the nasty chemicals and heavy metals and such that are used to create the rechargeable batteries? What is the lifespan on one of those $$ battery packs? What hazards are there in the recycling of said batteries, what is the likelyhood that some will end up in landfills and cause problems there?

As for electric cars, this is also a flawed argument because where is all of the electricity that is needed going to come from to charge them. The electricity to your house has to be generated some how and a lot of the US electric generation is from fossil fuel (read coal) power (it may still be over 50%). All we do with electric cars is to put everybody on the same exhaust pipe at the power plant.

Mercury93
09-17-2010, 06:52 PM
Diesel costs massively less and doesn't require the very ungreen materials to make the large batteries that last only a few years before they lose the ability to hold a sufficient charge.

The smug is going to kill us all.



The crap coming out of the exhaust pipes of my Crown Vic isn't any worse than what has been used to construct their batteries. It's too bad only a small number of people realize such things.

Vortex
09-18-2010, 06:39 AM
No need for members of "redstate" to panic, its just a darn window sticker, who cares?

LIGHTNIN1
09-18-2010, 10:23 AM
I think the idea is government tells us what we can and cannot eat, drink, what air we can breathe,what lightbulbs we can use,what the kids can eat, what they can drink,and I can't think of one single area of life they do not control. The green thing is all about money.Al Gore and others have made themselves very rich from it.

Motorhead350
09-18-2010, 10:44 AM
Whats wrong with you people. In my town we have dedicated parking stalls for all electric/hybrids. First class treatment, neighbors will be envious coworkers will accept you and you will be saving the world at the same time. I feel better already just thinking I would be doing my part to help.

I park in those spaces because my Marauder says Hybrid. Around that word it says Buy A Hybrid I Need Gas. I'm doing the world better by driving a gas sucking older car than a new Hybrid. Think of the energy to power the plants to build the cars, trucks to ship them to dealers, how bad the batterys are for the environment when they are disposed of. If they are recycled, they have to go to another country and back. The energy to power the ferighter ship is even worse. Hybrids are worse for the world than a gas powered car. The only benefit is Hybrids save gas for me, when that car is done it will do more harm than any good.

Hybrid = Fail.