CAI (Cold Air Intake)

[Doohicky]

I realize people like to say they have installed a "CAI" to there car as a modification. It might be more helpful to be specific on the brand than just "CAI". Most all cars since the '70's have come from the factory with a "CAI" system. And just installing an aftermarket filter that gets underhood air isn't really a "CAI" even if the manufacturer states that it is.
Just my 2 cents.

[CBT]

........crickets.........

[Egon Spengler]

hog wash and poppy ****

[SpartaPerformance]

What? 'splain pleeze!

[fastblackmerc]

I realize people like to say they have installed a "CAI" to there car as a modification. It might be more helpful to be specific on the brand than just "CAI". Most all cars since the '70's have come from the factory with a "CAI" system. And just installing an aftermarket filter that gets underhood air isn't really a "CAI" even if the manufacturer states that it is.
Just my 2 cents.


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[MMarauder03]

Well I have a jlt intake in my car! :beatnik:

[Mr. Man]

I think your arguing semantics here. Most people who list a CAI upgrade in their sigs tell you what they have. If you are looking to do an upgrade on your car there are endless threads about the topic. Three that come to mind are K&N, JLT and I think Reinhardt sells PHP(?). All give similar performance gains so it's really a choice based on price and aesthetics.

[Blackened300a]

PHP CAI so WTF?

[massacre]

I refer to the underhood style as a HAI.

[SC Cheesehead]

PHP CAI so WTF?

PHP FTW!
:banana:

[breeze]

im doing a jlt or a custom "breeze intake" when i do my 4' cowlhood.lol

[CBT]

guspech750 has a JLT, what a loser! :P

[JOEMERC]

dohicky is right though unless if air is pulled in from in the engine bay ,its not a cold air intake.i second the motion.

[JOEMERC]

doohicky is right if air is pulled in from engine bay,its not a cold air intake.i dont know why people spend all that money on a ( cai) when our air boxs flow air with little to no restriction,crown vic owners kill to have our factory air box...

[Doohicky]

The aftermarket industry has gotten people believing that the factory air filtration systems aren't as effective as they really are. Along with other parts that seem to just waste money, or atleast, put money in THEIR pockets. Sure, at 7000 RPM there may be some difference, but the money spent just doesn't seem worth it. And I definitely don't speed much time above 4000.

[FormulaMarauder]

There are normally one to four reasons one goes to an aftermarket air intake system.

1) Better Looking
2) Easier maintenance.
3) Better sounding.
4) Slight performance increase, more obvious w/other mods.

[fastblackmerc]

The aftermarket industry has gotten people believing that the factory air filtration systems aren't as effective as they really are. Along with other parts that seem to just waste money, or atleast, put money in THEIR pockets. Sure, at 7000 RPM there may be some difference, but the money spent just doesn't seem worth it. And I definitely don't speed much time above 4000.

You are probably right, but...........


I sounds freakin AWESOME!

[fastblackmerc]

dohicky is right though unless if air is pulled in from in the engine bay ,its not a cold air intake.i second the motion.


doohicky is right if air is pulled in from engine bay,its not a cold air intake.i dont know why people spend all that money on a ( cai) when our air boxs flow air with little to no restriction,crown vic owners kill to have our factory air box...


The aftermarket industry has gotten people believing that the factory air filtration systems aren't as effective as they really are. Along with other parts that seem to just waste money, or atleast, put money in THEIR pockets. Sure, at 7000 RPM there may be some difference, but the money spent just doesn't seem worth it. And I definitely don't speed much time above 4000.

So do you think we really give a crap?

BTW... I never heard of a CV owner killing to get a MM airbox..... but they will spend alot of money for it. Usually enough to cover the cost of a JLT.

[whitey]

i agree on the hot air intake.....i was thinking on custom making a cai for my marauder, out of pvc(?not sure on the melting point?), and silicone fittings, however i cant find an assortment of silicone fittings. if someone has done this, or knows where to get parts for this, please let me/us know! thanks--whitey

[CBT]

i agree on the hot air intake.....i was thinking on custom making a cai for my marauder, out of pvc(?not sure on the melting point?), and silicone fittings, however i cant find an assortment of silicone fittings. if someone has done this, or knows where to get parts for this, please let me/us know! thanks--whitey

You can find all those parts in one spot. It's called a JLT.

[RocsMerc]

I just got a chuckle out of seeing a thread about CAI's under "power adders". Back in high school I knew someone that thought he added 75 hp to his camaro by adding a CAI and a loud muffler. We tried correcting him but he didn't want to hear it, so we just laughed. :laugh:

EDIT: 300th post WOOT!!! :party: It only took me 4 years. lol

[Black_Out]

CAI's are 100% worth the money every time. It's a visual/performance/sound mod all in one!

[musclemerc]

You should consider another material other than pvc. PVC when heated gives off a gas and is not recommended for any CAI system.

ABS.


i agree on the hot air intake.....i was thinking on custom making a cai for my marauder, out of pvc(?not sure on the melting point?), and silicone fittings, however i cant find an assortment of silicone fittings. if someone has done this, or knows where to get parts for this, please let me/us know! thanks--whitey

[Bradley G]

The JLT is made of PVC and I believe other models they offer are as well.

I agree on the car injesting hot air, while you're sitting in traffic during the hot season.
The car does dog off the line.
It's great once you get rolling and cooler air finds it's way in.
I had a JLT both N/A & with the blower.
The car showed gains using it too, but I grew tired of the higher noise levels.
I like the way the factory airbox looks too!
People always ask if the car came that way!

I am running a K&N panel filter in the factory airbox and have been pleased so far after four years and several service intervals.


You should consider another material other than pvc. PVC when heated gives off a gas and is not recommended for any CAI system.

ABS.

[Krytin]

Aftermarket intakes DO make a difference on the dyno starting just over 5000 rpm.
If you don't run the motor much past 4000 rpm WTF did you buy this car for?!!
You're just into peak torque and you're never seeing peak HP!
Sell you're Marauder and buy a VW Phaeton already!

[Joe Walsh]

Ford's, and most other manufacturer's, OEM airboxs/intake systems do an excellent job of getting cold air into the engine.
They are completely sealed from the hot engine compartment air and they usually have a snorkel directing cold air into the airbox.

The problem is in the:
OEM filter
The small size of the airbox's cold air snorkel
The turbulence inducing corregated intake tubes
The attached noise attenuation chambers ('J' elephant trunk on our Marauders)

These all constrict and add turbulance to the flow of air at high rpms.

An improperly designed, shielded/sealed aftermarket CAI is worse than the OEM set-up...especially in hot weather and stop&go traffic.

I like to check out the 'old school' open element air filters in most modded muscle cars and wonder how much HP they lose because of hot engine compartment air being sucked directly into the engine.....:shake:

[CBT]

I took the heat shield off my K&N last time I cleaned the filter, about a week before MV8. It performed just as well as always, and with less dead weight attatched. Hot air, cold air, who cares? Car squalled tires on time everytime.

[ctrlraven]

im doing a jlt or a custom "breeze intake" when i do my 4' cowlhood.lol
4 foot or 4 inch? Cause ' means feet and " means inches.

[CBT]

4 foot or 4 inch? Cause ' means feet and " means inches.
That's what she said! :D

[Egon Spengler]

That's what she said! :D
The difference between pleasure and pain!

[RocsMerc]

The JLT is made of PVC and I believe other models they offer are as well.

This is true, but it depends on the age of the kit. They used PVC in the beginning and converted all their kits over to ABS plastic later on. Anything you order from them currently should be ABS.

[dwrwebb]

OK, so there are too many comments made for me to quote them all, but I will sum up my response(s):

If you are idling in stop and go traffic and/or a redlight on hot pavement, and probably behind another car(s), EVERY intake - whether it is a CAI or OEM - will by drawing significantly hotter air...from my tests it showed IAT about 30-40 degrees higher in those situations than on the "open road," regardless of which intake setup I used. That being the case, I much prefer the CAI to the OEM box. It's less restrictive, doesn't have the "muffler"(J-tube), sounds better, certainly looks better, and does have a slight performance increase, although not truly significant. Also, CV owners like our boxes for several reasons. It is bigger than theirs, it does have the little tube before the box to draw in more "outside air", and not to mention they just wish they had a MM, and do everything they can to get it like ours!

[JOEMERC]

if you want more sound of the air coming in,i have factory air box with k&n filter panel ,removed the j-plastic tube (muffler) and the rubber hose in front of air box ,its right behind head light you cant miss it.you will have to unbolt airbox to remove it.it just pulls out of box.what a differance in sound when you nail it .

[fastblackmerc]

You can also modify the stock airbox like this:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Stock%20Airbox/Airbox.jpg

[MM03MOK]

I just got a chuckle out of seeing a thread about CAI's under "power adders". Yep, noticed that...moved it...

[Blk Mamba]

i agree on the hot air intake.....i was thinking on custom making a cai for my marauder, out of pvc(?not sure on the melting point?), and silicone fittings, however i cant find an assortment of silicone fittings. if someone has done this, or knows where to get parts for this, please let me/us know! thanks--whitey

Spectre, (probably spelled wrong) has everything you are looking for by the piece, and you can take cold air from anywhere you want, (lower center front bumper cover), a little more money, but if you want a custom made CAI, that's the way to go. IMHO

[Taemian]

I realize people like to say they have installed a "CAI" to there car as a modification. It might be more helpful to be specific on the brand than just "CAI". Most all cars since the '70's have come from the factory with a "CAI" system. And just installing an aftermarket filter that gets underhood air isn't really a "CAI" even if the manufacturer states that it is.
Just my 2 cents.

A CAI does increase power proportionally depending on your mods, just as a larger TB and a larger MAF does if you have the mods to require those. If your car lives under 4000rpm, you're most likely on the wrong site.

Here's your .02 back. Now move to the back of the class.

[boatmangc]

K&N 'cause they got the best stickers!
Any CAI 'cause they sound cool

[musclemerc]

Very true.


This is true, but it depends on the age of the kit. They used PVC in the beginning and converted all their kits over to ABS plastic later on. Anything you order from them currently should be ABS.

[dwrwebb]

I have heard of some guys making them out of metal tubing (of different varieties), and they countered the heating effect by using a ceramic paint inside and out, as theat is extremely heat resistant, and then just buying some couplers and elbows (or taking the tube somewhere to be bent), and adding your basic "performance" cone filter...I almost went that route but found a brand new K&N CAI for $115 shipped overnight air...couldn't beat that

[Doohicky]

A CAI does increase power proportionally depending on your mods, just as a larger TB and a larger MAF does if you have the mods to require those. If your car lives under 4000rpm, you're most likely on the wrong site.

Here's your .02 back. Now move to the back of the class.
You're probably right. I thought this site was about Mercury Maruder "THE CAR".....not about "THE OWNERS" of said car.

[Ms. Denmark]

You're probably right. I thought this site was about Mercury Maruder "THE CAR".....not about "THE OWNERS" of said car.You'll find this is a fairly close knit group and many of us have met each other and even become good friends. I'd say the site is about both the car (spelled Marauder)and the owners. (You'll find that the owners are at least as interesting as their car.) Can't separate the two. Wouldn't even try.

[Blackened300a]

I realize people like to say they have installed a "CAI" to there car as a modification. It might be more helpful to be specific on the brand than just "CAI". Most all cars since the '70's have come from the factory with a "CAI" system. And just installing an aftermarket filter that gets underhood air isn't really a "CAI" even if the manufacturer states that it is.
Just my 2 cents.

Heres the PHP intake. It has a metal shield to keep most of the engine heat out and a larger opening in the front for colder air while driving. It looks 100 times better and makes more power then that plastic bulky box with a rubber tube.
Since I pride myself in the looks of my engine, it also is very cosmetic.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs028.snc1/4289_74376965674_790625674_166 5644_4563098_n.jpg

[musclemerc]

^^I love the engraving you added to your kit.

[SC Cheesehead]

You'll find this is a fairly close knit group and many of us have met each other and even become good friends. I'd say the site is about both the car (spelled Marauder)and the owners. (You'll find that the owners are at least as interesting as their car.) Can't separate the two. Wouldn't even try.

^^^^^ For sure, Paula. ^^^^^^


Heres the PHP intake. It has a metal shield to keep most of the engine heat out and a larger opening in the front for colder air while driving. It looks 100 times better and makes more power then that plastic bulky box with a rubber tube.
Since I pride myself in the looks of my engine, it also is very cosmetic.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs028.snc1/4289_74376965674_790625674_166 5644_4563098_n.jpg


PHP FTW! :banana2: