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FormulaMarauder
10-08-2010, 05:01 PM
Worth it? Not worth it. I'm hearing that it's good for a tenth or more shaved off of 60' times. This accurate?
And another thing, I drive about 100 miles to the track. Would it be OK to take it down without it or is it something I should remove there?
LANDY
10-08-2010, 05:37 PM
It's not safe to drive on the street without one especially getting off ramps. But at the track I might be a good idea. I still think is not worthed for just a tenth.
If you go to the track on a colder night and do things right you will hit the 11's.
You have plenty of power.
Got_1
10-08-2010, 06:14 PM
driving without a swaybar is OK. you'll just notice more body roll than you did before but it does not make the car unsafe.
ImpalaSlayer
10-08-2010, 06:36 PM
driving without a swaybar is OK. you'll just notice more body roll than you did before but it does not make the car unsafe.
exactly, plenty of cars out there with out them
Black_Noise
10-08-2010, 07:11 PM
it will make the MM feel like a barge on top of a blimp.
Not worth it if your driving 100 miles to the track, the reason it would take that off is because of the weight transfer because the front of the car would lift more on the line tranfering a little weight to the rear gaining like 1% traction.
LANDY
10-08-2010, 08:40 PM
driving without a swaybar is OK. you'll just notice more body roll than you did before but it does not make the car unsafe. I want no part of that, since when I'm driving I like to do what I want when I want.
joemama
10-09-2010, 05:08 AM
I took mine off, gained a good tenth in the 60'. You could feel the mickey thompsons grabbing better off the line. I still drive it around town anyway, no problem.
secretservice
10-11-2010, 08:37 AM
I think it just comes down to if it is worth it to you. I permanently took the front sway off my Mustang drag car, and I drove it on every nice day I could. I didn't care, it was on 3.5" front tires, big thick custom rear sway bar, Moroso trick Front springs, and 90/10 front struts. It came off the line like a spider monkey, but needed training wheels for any turn over 10mph. Do what you want, I think it's gonna be perfectly drivable. Just a bit sloppier around turns.
RR|Suki
10-11-2010, 08:41 AM
Removing the front bar and driving to the track is no big deal. Have at it, you'll go faster
Waste of energy if you ask me.
Put some 100 octane in, add 4 degrees of timing and go.
ctrlraven
10-11-2010, 09:15 AM
Waste of energy if you ask me.
Put some 100 octane in, add 4 degrees of timing and go.
Exactly or just lighten your load, remove items in the trunk and run 1/4 tank of fuel. A gallon of gas is about 8 lbs, sway bar is 25-35 lbs?
RR|Suki
10-11-2010, 09:26 AM
Exactly or just lighten your load, remove items in the trunk and run 1/4 tank of fuel. A gallon of gas is about 8 lbs, sway bar is 25-35 lbs?
removing the sway bar has nothing to do with weight, and everything to do with cutting down on the 60' times.
secretservice
10-11-2010, 09:28 AM
sway bar is 25-35 lbs?
Not all about the weight. The bar ties the independent suspension together, and after you remove it, the front end has more travel. IE the front end is allowed to lift more before the car would theoretically lift the front tires. It basically "eases" picking the front end up, therefore transferring the weight to the rear tires. Refer to Newton's three laws of motion for more confusion or clarity, depending.
I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
In this case, the front end of the car rises, and the suspension droops. The sway bar is the limiting factor, attempting to stop the upward motion.
II. The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors.
In this law the direction of the force vector is upward and the direction of the acceleration vector is forward.
III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Action: Smash the pedal
Reaction: Front end rises.
External force: Sway bar limiting suspension droop.
Overcome by: Removing sway bar.
The 25lb. diet is a side effect. The real gain is weight transfer.
JOEMERC
10-11-2010, 09:31 AM
or keep sway bar on and put drag racing front shocks on to allow lift on take off,my .02 .
LOL at all of this.
IMHO the MM is one of the best suited cars to be drag raced, due to its weight.
If you cant figure out how to cut a 1.50 60 foot time like me with just driving and the proper tire, DO NOT try and remove things from the car to help, because its wasting time and energy.
Joe Walsh
10-11-2010, 09:59 AM
I did this with my '85 5.0 years ago....it works, the front end comes up in a hurry without the sway bar.
Quicker weight transfer to the rear wheels.
BUT, as someone already noted...the first freeway exit ramp I took, scared the livin' crap out of me.
The Marauder already is a long, heavy barge, so I'm not going to spend time unbolting it's front sway bar.
In fact, I don't even take out the spare tire, take out the passenger's seat, run only a 1/4 tank of gas....etc.
I want to know what my Marauder will run as I drive it on the street....(with Nitto 305 DRs of course...:D)
Blackened300a
10-11-2010, 11:19 AM
I want to know what my Marauder will run as I drive it on the street....(with Nitto 305 DRs of course...:D)
Same here, except I take out my trunk organizer. Im sure 55lbs of cleaning products would affect my ET. :D
Paul T. Casey
10-11-2010, 03:26 PM
Impala guys have been doing this for a long time. The weigh transfer does help with traction. But, as others have said, it's a lot of work for what may not be much gain. I'd experiment with launches for a while and find the best before jumping to this.
secretservice
10-11-2010, 03:34 PM
But, as others have said, it's a lot of work for what may not be much gain.
But it's FREEEEE!!! :banana2:
The people I deal with say take them off for bettter weight transfer.
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