Head removal

[Motorhead350]

How do I remove the drivers head off the engine?

Is there a book for this step by step job I can buy?

Only useful responses please.

Thank you.

[ImpalaSlayer]

dont know if its even possible while the engines in the car.

[Motorhead350]

dont know if its even possible while the engines in the car.

Really?

I have an engine lift if needed.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Really?

I have an engine lift if needed.

i think ive herd of it being done but honestly id just pull the damn motor, would make life 10x easier

[FordNut]

I've seen it done, but I would just pull the engine and do it on an engine stand if it was me.

Here's a sample...
Remove the blower.
Remove the intake manifold.
Remove both valve covers.
Remove the crank pulley.
Remove the front accessories (AC, PS, WP).
Remove the timing cover.
Remove the timing gears, chains, tensioners.
Remove the exhaust header.
Now you can pull the head.

PS I may have forgotten a few little details.

[gdsqdcr]

I really want to just say take if to a mechanic and cough up te dough ... But you asked for helpful.

Buy a Helms manual. Pull motor from car (see other thread you posted a out motor swap for details). Remove blower, valve cover, then the head. Honestly at this point, just do both sides. Get head fixed, reinstall in reverse order. Pay attention to torque and in which order you be installing bolts. I learned that on an Audi -- do it wrong, do it twice.

I left out alot of details, like which connectors go where, drain fluids, disconnect hoses, disconnect tranny, disconnect battery, etc. Those details will really come from a mechanic or a Helms manual.

When you remove the head, cover the block so you don't drop anything in there and have to do this twice. Learned that lesson when my pal did not protect it on his Explorer head swap.

In short, get a mechanic to do the job, or get a Helms manual. Also know that you will likely need special tools to do this job. Rent or buy ....


Anthony

[kernie]

Just give it a shot, play it by ear, you don't need pics or labels, i have complete comfidence in you!

Go for it!

:beer:

[fastblackmerc]

Buy a shop manual. They are on eBay all the time.

[ctrlraven]

Buy a shop manual. They are on eBay all the time.
^This. I wouldn't go by any other manual out there.

[babbage]

Taking it off is easy, putting it back on perfectly isn't. Why do you want it off to begin with? You don't even change your own oil and you want to remove a head??

[massacre]

It's possible but barely.
Shop manual and pull motor.
Save yourself some headaches.

[Egon Spengler]

Aaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite...

[RacerX]

Oh boy... Dom, don't you get frustrated easily? Is there another member near to you that is familiar with what you need done? Maybe you could offer them some pizza and beer or some $? Lotta nice boardmembers here if you're nice.

[Egon Spengler]

Oh boy... Dom, don't you get frustrated easily? Is there another member near to you that is familiar with what you need done? Maybe you could offer them some pizza and beer or some $? Lotta nice boardmembers here if you're nice.
YEAH! Zackzillaaaaaa!!!! :rofl:

[Zack]

I cant believe you posted this.

After I respond to your texts and convince you not to make a huge mistake....you go and ask for help here.

Im gonna go back to ignoring the calls/texts.

For CHRIST SAKE you have a funeral to attend and arrangements to make.
Forget about the MOTHER F!@#$$ING CAR UNTIL THAT IS OVER

[Egon Spengler]

I cant believe you posted this.

After I respond to your texts and convince you not to make a huge mistake....you go and ask for help here.

Im gonna go back to ignoring the calls/texts.

For CHRIST SAKE you have a funeral to attend and arrangements to make.
Forget about the MOTHER F!@#$$ING CAR UNTIL THAT IS OVER
He's YOUR friend....

[martyo]

For CHRIST SAKE you have a funeral to attend and arrangements to make.
Forget about the MOTHER F!@#$$ING CAR UNTIL THAT IS OVER

Every now and then Zack posts something that makes me like him again.

[Joe Walsh]

How do I remove the drivers head off the engine?
Is there a book for this step by step job I can buy?

1: Fill the tank with Kerosene
2: Go drag racing again....

:rolleyes:

[RacerX]

1: Fill the tank with Kerosene
2: Install Direct Vent Injection
3: Go drag racing again....
:rolleyes:

:eek: That's not nice!

[Motorhead350]

Why do you want it off to begin with? You don't even change your own oil and you want to remove a head??

Ya I do you. This is why I don't like people like you. You just assume and cast a judgement when you don't know squat.


I cant believe you posted this.

After I respond to your texts and convince you not to make a huge mistake....you go and ask for help here.

Im gonna go back to ignoring the calls/texts.

For CHRIST SAKE you have a funeral to attend and arrangements to make.
Forget about the MOTHER F!@#$$ING CAR UNTIL THAT IS OVER

Dude up until then there is nothing I can do. Especially when there are meetings for family members only. So if I have 90 minutes to blow here and there thoughout the day, I'm going to look up a thing or two.

If I did this while I was supposed to be helping I would see your point and have the same view. Sometimes there is nothing for me to do and nothing I can do. I'm not at home you know.

Joe, once again you are making a post that has no benefit to me.

[babbage]

Ya I do you. This is why I don't like people like you. You just assume and cast a judgement when you don't know squat.

You really change your own oil? :rolleyes:

Dom you are always asking crazy things on here and you NEVER do any of it. We could tell you exactly step by step how to remove your heads, yet you still wouldn't do it yourself, so what does it matter?

You are like the boy who cried wolf, then you get upset when we jest you over it. duh?

[Dragcity]

With these aluminum parts, it is important to De-torque things. Unless you are just going to recycle the aluminum......

[Joe Walsh]

Joe, once again you are making a post that has no benefit to me.

I suggested the easiest, and by far, the quickest way to remove your heads.

[martyo]

With these aluminum parts, it is important to De-torque things. Unless you are just going to recycle the aluminum......

Great post!

[RacerX]

I suggested the easiest, and by far, the quickest way to remove your heads.
Wouldn't that be a 300 dry shot of N2O? :neener:

[gdsqdcr]

With these aluminum parts, it is important to De-torque things. Unless you are just going to recycle the aluminum......

Seriously? I never knew that. I have only worked on older Audi's and Explorers, never remember de-torquing them. Now I gotta go look this up and read more -- I might learn something in this post! :P

Anthony

[Peter]

Make sure your torque wrench is calibrated.

[Joe Walsh]

Wouldn't that be a 300 dry shot of N2O? :neener:

Kerosene is much cheaper!

He's operating on a very tight budget here....

[Blackened300a]

Dom, seek professional help for your engine repair. I didn't feel comfortable doing my engine myself even though I am capable of doing it. I just felt better handing it off to someone else who has experience in working on these engines on a regular basis.
Like was said, you'll have to pull the entire front of the engine apart (accessories, timing cover, etc..) cam covers, intake manifold, turn the engine over til all the markings on the cam gears and chains are aligned, lock the cams ,remove the chain tensioners, take the chains off the cam gear, then fight trying to get all the head bolts out, then fight trying to pull the head off and out.
I wouldn't recommend you attempting this. You would throw in the towel just trying to remove the cam covers.

[Motorhead350]

You really change your own oil? :rolleyes:

Dom you are always asking crazy things on here and you NEVER do any of it. We could tell you exactly step by step how to remove your heads, yet you still wouldn't do it yourself, so what does it matter?

You are like the boy who cried wolf, then you get upset when we jest you over it. duh?

You are wrong on so many levels that is isn't worth the effort explaining everything to you. Think what you want. You don't know anything.

[rayjay]

A gauge at the base of the front jaw seems to work quite nicely.

[FordNut]

I've pulled the heads off, on an engine stand. I wouldn't attempt it in the car, and I wouldn't even try to put them back on myself. And as Zack said, the heads ain't the problem it's the pistons that have been liberated of chunks of the ring lands. So the engine has to come out anyway.

[Motorhead350]

I've pulled the heads off, on an engine stand. I wouldn't attempt it in the car, and I wouldn't even try to put them back on myself. And as Zack said, the heads ain't the problem it's the pistons that have been liberated of chunks of the ring lands. So the engine has to come out anyway.

:bigcry:

............

[FordNut]

:bigcry:

............

Sorry.

You need a built motor or a Cobra (or Aluminator) to go in it.
I know you said you're going to go NA for awhile but eventually you'll put the blower back on then you'll be in the same boat again if you use a stock one.

[Joe Walsh]

Sell the spent Marauder and buy an Impala SS.
Then you only need to learn how to work on the simple Chevy small block.

1 cam and 1 timing chain.
Mods are stupid cheap.
They are bulletproof.

[babbage]

You are wrong on so many levels that is isn't worth the effort explaining everything to you. Think what you want. You don't know anything.

I know how to listen to others when they give sound advice.
Good luck with the rebuild Dom. Take better care of it next time.

[rayjay]

Dom, FWIW, sometimes the cheapest way ends up costing much more in the long run. It can be worth having it done by a pro that will stand behind it warranty wise as Paul said. Do us proud and be the 1st to put the new 5.0 Coyote in. Come on, go fot it!

[RacerX]

I've pulled the heads off, on an engine stand. I wouldn't attempt it in the car, and I wouldn't even try to put them back on myself.
You've never installed heads Brian??? I know it's off the point, but, I thought you did all your engine work.

[1stMerc]

Probably, if he had seen that Coyote on Horsepower this past weekend he'd be chomping at the bit to install one. That motor was sweet.

I've tore into motors before, but after reading what the veterans on here are saying, i doubt if i'd venture to mess with this one. Just too many parts and it's aluminum. Whole different animal.

[RacerX]

I've tore into motors before, but after reading what the veterans on here are saying, i doubt if i'd venture to mess with this one. Just too many parts and it's aluminum. Whole different animal.
It's not bad at all, really. If you've torn into motors before, you'd be suprised. It is very intimidating until you just do it. These motors make sense. I can't wait to build up my other block now. This was my first ever engine pull, rebuild and install. All by myself, self taught. 360hp @ crank N/A.

Sorry Dom, this isn't for you without having someone knowledgeable to help.

[FordNut]

You've never installed heads Brian??? I know it's off the point, but, I thought you did all your engine work.

Nope, I'll tear it down but I let the pros put it back together. At least the long block. I'll do all the rest.

[RacerX]

Gotcha. If you want perfection...

[Joe Walsh]

Nope, I'll tear it down but I let the pros put it back together. At least the long block. I'll do all the rest.

That's exactly my thoughts....and what I did with my modular engine.

[ctrlraven]

Sell the spent Marauder and buy an Impala SS.
Then you only need to learn how to work on the simple Chevy small block.

1 cam and 1 timing chain.
Mods are stupid cheap.
They are bulletproof.
Honestly that's really not that bad of an idea.

[Motorhead350]

I'm never going to sell the car... ever. I love it too much. It's like a pet to me. Like a pet dog or turtle except this one I can fix everytime it dies. It was around during my dark days as a teenage when I felt like I had no friends at all. Just my Marauder, music in the car and anyone else who wanted to race me. It was an out from reality that never got old, it kept me alive too.

If I had the cash laying around I would love to get a built engine or upgrade. Right now I cannot. So if I wanna do this right, it could be sitting... maybe for years. Or I can just go N/A and relax... which would be no fun.

[RF Overlord]

Sell the spent Marauder and buy an Impala SS.

Mods are stupid cheap.
They are bulletproof.Well...unless you have problems with the Opti-Spark... But that never happens... :shake:

:D

[Motorhead350]

Screw it. The car is sitting.

Parts for sale soon.

[FordNut]

Knee-jerk reactions will screw you every time. Park it and start looking for a good used Cobra long block.

[SC Cheesehead]

Knee-jerk reactions will screw you every time. Park it and start looking for a good used Cobra long block.


Hey, speaking of Cobra blocks, you may want to give ImpalaSlayer a holler, he may have 'zackly what you need.

[rayjay]

Oh boy, I'm better at giving advice than taking it, but here goes. Put her up for now, winters coming anyway. Last I knew you had a Blazer, drive it like a human and make it last while you save your money to properly fix your beloved Marauder. Formulate a good plan using the help of knowledgeable people, do not go off half cocked in a dozen different directions. When you have a solid, written, outlined plan, stick to it, tweek if necessary, but stick to the major part. The old saying that anything worth having, is worth waiting for, is TRUE. Park her until you have the coin to do it right, not half assed. Then you won't have to kick yourself in the good side of your posterior... Thats all, Lucid moment over. back to lala land :beatnik:

[Motorhead350]

Oh boy, I'm better at giving advice than taking it, but here goes. Put her up for now, winters coming anyway. Last I knew you had a Blazer, drive it like a human and make it last while you save your money to properly fix your beloved Marauder. Formulate a good plan using the help of knowledgeable people, do not go off half cocked in a dozen different directions. When you have a solid, written, outlined plan, stick to it, tweek if necessary, but stick to the major part. The old saying that anything worth having, is worth waiting for, is TRUE. Park her until you have the coin to do it right, not half assed. Then you won't have to kick yourself in the good side of your posterior... Thats all, Lucid moment over. back to lala land :beatnik:

That's pretty much exactly my plan. My K5 has a tranny issue again, but I have a spare to install. I wanna do it myself, but a shop quoted me $350 cash to do it in a day. I might do it as soon as monday and forget about the car for a while... I don't wanna, but sometimes I gotta use my brain instead of my lead foot. :(