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Dennis Reinhart
10-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just under 4 seconds!
There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car!

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DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION


One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

It takes just 15/100 of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

A t the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F.

Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8 G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.

The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , C A ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

...... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!

TFB
10-21-2010, 09:28 AM
Ain't nothin' quite like leaning on the fence and being nearly blown back into the stands by the exhaust force of a Top Fuel car... Well maybe it ain't quite that forceful, but there isn't any doubt about when they pass by...

Bigdogjim
10-21-2010, 09:32 AM
Nice read! Thanks

2,4shofast
10-21-2010, 09:41 AM
Pretty amazing to hear details about how fast they really are!

ctrlraven
10-21-2010, 09:46 AM
I'd like to see that race actually. I know the dragster would win but would be cool to see.

Matt In Detroit
10-21-2010, 10:08 AM
I wonder how much of this is internet BS. A stock hemi at what (350hp) cant turn the supercharger? that sounds like BS for sure.

martyo
10-21-2010, 11:34 AM
I drove one of those cars once.

RR|Suki
10-21-2010, 11:41 AM
I wonder how much of this is internet BS. A stock hemi at what (350hp) cant turn the supercharger? that sounds like BS for sure.

considering the size of the blower on a top fuel dragster. . . what they are saying is that it would take xhp to spin the blower to its max output. So it would apply to spinning the blower without getting the benefit of the power in return. I could see it taking 400hp to spin one of those big bastards to full speed, (it's not like they are saying to move it at all will take 400hp) but it is irrelevant because as it spins it is providing 10x that power to the motor so it's a moot point. It's just an example of the kind of power needed to spin it. Whether it is really 400 or not, I dunno but I could see it being in the hundreds easily

Pops
10-21-2010, 11:44 AM
How much power does it take on our cars? Remember people use turbos as they do not rob power from you. Blowers require power to drive them. Can't remember where I saw it but the loss on a blower car like what we use nears 100 HP.:)

jflave
10-21-2010, 11:50 AM
Learn something every day, a good read, thanks :)

sailsmen
10-21-2010, 11:52 AM
I estimated a "T" trim at 18psi is ~80HP. There was a formula that I cannot locate but I remember ~80HP.

Pops
10-21-2010, 11:53 AM
Run that up by 10 and it proves the statement!

J-MAN
10-21-2010, 11:54 AM
Dennis, will you be offering this as a package?

ctrlraven
10-21-2010, 12:18 PM
Some cool videos

800-1000hp to turn the blowers on top fuel dragsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NTpsxODzTo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGvfKGres4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tg6RDUFQJ4
2tg6RDUFQJ4

F8LBITEva
10-21-2010, 12:34 PM
I love going to NHRA races! Im pissed I missed Maple Grove a couple weeks ago.

Dobs
10-22-2010, 12:35 AM
Is Dennis talk about my MM.... :neener:

ImpalaSlayer
10-22-2010, 08:30 AM
not buying the figure they give for the 747. other wise very interesting

tbone
10-23-2010, 07:01 AM
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

Doesn't make sense to me. (???) Please explain Dennis.

ImpalaSlayer
10-23-2010, 09:27 AM
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

Doesn't make sense to me. (???) Please explain Dennis.

they only run for about 10 seconds total, when you break it down that the number they come up with, pretty crazy huh?

tbone
10-23-2010, 02:08 PM
Ok, I get it. I was thinking revs per minute. Duh! So 540 revolutions in 4 seconds is 135 revolutions x 60 seconds is 8100 rpm's. +-