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DTUB
10-31-2010, 04:20 PM
What would be the highest HP level you could safely push an Aluminator SB too? I'm looking for somewhere in the 600/650 RWHP next year. :bat::bat:
Zack
10-31-2010, 04:24 PM
Its essentially a Cobra Longblock so 800 rwhp safely
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 04:31 PM
plenty of cobras running over 1k hp on stock stuff.
LANDY
10-31-2010, 04:35 PM
i know a guy that has been runing 780rwhp on a stock cobra motor for over 60k miles with out a ingle hicup. and he abuses the car
DTUB
10-31-2010, 04:36 PM
I've got a line on a 10.1 NA for cheap, is this ok for 650 RWHP or do I need the 8:5.1 ?
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 04:41 PM
I've got a line on a 10.1 NA for cheap, is this ok for 650 RWHP or do I need the 8:5.1 ?
either will handle the hp, but with the eaton i think you would be better off with the 8.5. if its really cheap swap the pistons
Zack
10-31-2010, 04:57 PM
I've got a line on a 10.1 NA for cheap, is this ok for 650 RWHP or do I need the 8:5.1 ?

The 10:1 will work. I hope you are converting to E85 then the 10:1 will be ideal
LANDY
10-31-2010, 05:00 PM
i dont think you would be able to hit the 600rwhp mark on the 10.1 combo with just the blower. maybe nitrous.i would say no more than 550rwhp on race gas.
like Dave said you would be better off with lowe compression.
correct me if im wrong, but im speaking from past experience.
LANDY
10-31-2010, 05:01 PM
The 10:1 will work. I hope you are converting to E85 then the 10:1 will be ideal
thats a good suggestion.
Zack
10-31-2010, 05:03 PM
i dont think you would be able to hit the 600rwhp mark on the 10.1 combo with just the blower. maybe nitrous.i would say no more than 550rwhp on race gas.
like Dave said you would be better off with lowe compression.
correct me if im wrong, but im speaking from past experience.

Im pretty sure he knows that and will be upgrading the blower.
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 05:16 PM
Im pretty sure he knows that and will be upgrading the blower.

i was assuming the same, good luck making 600 with the 112
DTUB
10-31-2010, 05:18 PM
The 10:1 will work. I hope you are converting to E85 then the 10:1 will be ideal
Here's what I'm planning this winter,
Aluminator SB/NA
LTH
Posi Port Eaton to 16lbs.
Posi Port lower
Killer Chiller with blockoff valve
E-85 and 80lb inj.
Dual GT-40 return style
Beefed tranny with converter
and hopefuly Kurgan will get his butt back up here so I can get another one of his killer tunes again.
FordNut
10-31-2010, 05:19 PM
I would prefer 10:1 myself.
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 05:20 PM
Here's what I'm planning this winter,
Aluminator SB/NA
LTH
Posi Port Eaton to 16lbs.
Killer Chiller with blockoff valve
E-85 and 80lb inj.
Dual GT-40 return style
Beefed tranny with converter
and hopefuly Kurgan will get his butt back up here so I can get another one of his killer tunes again.

you will still be hard pressed to get 600hp, im not an expert but im not even sure if its possible. i would definitely like to see how far you can push it though
Zack
10-31-2010, 05:30 PM
You wont get 600rwhp with that combo. Dont waste money trying to chase it, just get a Whipple
Zack
10-31-2010, 05:31 PM
...and you dont use GT40 pumps in a return style.
You need to sump the tank and run twin Bosch 044's

The marauder tank is GARBAGE for big HP cars IMHO...sump it and forget it.
DOOM
10-31-2010, 05:44 PM
Cobra short/long block.
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 05:44 PM
Cobra short/long block.

Doom, the aluminator is better as it is lighter. same internals.
DTUB
10-31-2010, 05:49 PM
You wont get 600rwhp with that combo. Dont waste money trying to chase it, just get a Whipple
I'd have to agree with you on this Zack I'll be lucky to get 560 so a 100 shot will be needed. I won't have enough cash for a Whipple after all these mods. :(
ImpalaSlayer
10-31-2010, 05:52 PM
I'd have to agree with you on this Zack I'll be lucky to get 560 so a 100 shot will be needed. I won't have enough cash for a Whipple after all these mods. :(

the point is to skipp all those and go for a whipple. everything you listed will easily run over what it will cost to find a used whipple.
DTUB
10-31-2010, 05:57 PM
...and you dont use GT40 pumps in a return style.
You need to sump the tank and run twin Bosch 044's

The marauder tank is GARBAGE for big HP cars IMHO...sump it and forget it.
Do you have any pics on how to sump the tank?
How to wire the pumps?
BAP?
Is the FRPS still needed with a return system?
LANDY
10-31-2010, 06:42 PM
Do you have any pics on how to sump the tank?
How to wire the pumps?
BAP?
Is the FRPS still needed with a return system?
any good welder can sump the tank, i believe there was a thread about jflave getting his tank sumped.
LANDY
10-31-2010, 06:49 PM
here ya go
http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1279077533-sump03marauder.jpg
http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1279583397-a1000.jpg
http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinhartautomotive/images/session/00-00-1279583471-aeroside.jpg
DTUB
10-31-2010, 07:31 PM
Thanks BB2
What size lines did you use?
LANDY
10-31-2010, 07:35 PM
its not my car maybe JFlave can answer that ?.
sailsmen
10-31-2010, 07:53 PM
Mustangs and FF did a compare of low vs high compression on an S/C the high developed ~4% more HP. In the days of yore with carbs you had to go with the lower compression on an S/C or Turbo. Today with computers and FI it is no longer necessary to go with low compression on an S/C or Turbo.
DTUB
10-31-2010, 08:04 PM
If I decide to go with a polished 3.4 would it clear my hood?
FordNut
10-31-2010, 08:08 PM
If I decide to go with a polished 3.4 would it clear my hood?

No, gotta have a cowl hood.
DOOM
10-31-2010, 08:20 PM
Doom, the aluminator is better as it is lighter. same internals.

Duh!

But everyone isn't worried about a weight diffrence. (80#)

terminators are cheaper and you get the same results!

Unless you're a competition drag racer worried about weight I wouldn't worry about it.

Just my opinion.
jflave
10-31-2010, 08:37 PM
Thanks BB2
What size lines did you use?
10 going in 8 on the return
Zack
11-01-2010, 06:15 AM
Who did that return style fuel system thats pictured?
:puke:

That sump is huge first of all, way overkill.
And who chose the Aeromotove A1000???? That thing is bulky, LOUDER that Hell and needs a controller to turn the speed down so it will actually last.

FYI on fuel lines, with a -8 feed and -6 (or the factory fuel line now the return) it will support 850rwhp on E85 no problem.
John Nero
11-01-2010, 06:24 AM
The 10:1 will work. I hope you are converting to E85 then the 10:1 will be ideal

i run 10:1 with Q-16
John Nero
11-01-2010, 06:29 AM
Thanks BB2
What size lines did you use?

i have a setup like this - #12 tank to pump - #10 pump to fuel reg - #8 fuel reg to fuel rails - #10 back to tank
jflave
11-01-2010, 08:23 AM
Who did that return style fuel system thats pictured?
:puke:

That sump is huge first of all, way overkill.
And who chose the Aeromotove A1000???? That thing is bulky, LOUDER that Hell and needs a controller to turn the speed down so it will actually last.

FYI on fuel lines, with a -8 feed and -6 (or the factory fuel line now the return) it will support 850rwhp on E85 no problem.
I did & i chose the A-1000 i like it, had Dennis do the sump for me, he did what the customer (ME) wanted. I'am happy with the results, i was sucking air before i had the sump done. Zack I'am old & use to doing things my way, i don't have your knowledge & can't do what was easy at one time. MY car, my $$$$, I enjoy it my way. :)
MOTOWN
11-01-2010, 10:02 AM
the aeromotive a1000 is an excellent pump, i bought two of them in 96' under the paxton brand for my 87 buick i run a -10 line to the rails(dual regulators), and -8 return, i dont use a controler and the pumps run fine, ill also use one on my mm when i redo the feul system.
myrodr
11-01-2010, 10:40 AM
Sean Hyland limits aluminum to 500 hp if over block may split in half
ImpalaSlayer
11-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Sean Hyland limits aluminum to 500 hp if over block may split in half

i lold

:rofl:
Spectragod
11-01-2010, 10:51 AM
Sean Hyland limits aluminum to 500 hp if over block may split in half

600 HP 6.0L DOHC CRATE ENGINE
The Sean Hyland 600 HP Crate Engine utilizes out 6 liter aluminum block,


Hmmmmmmmmmmm, he should quit selling them then.
Zack
11-01-2010, 11:50 AM
If anyone has any Sean Hyland parts in their car get ready do Bend over.
ntd
11-01-2010, 11:54 AM
If anyone has any Sean Hyland parts in their car get ready do Bend over.

Doesn't he include a tub of Vaseline with every sale to make the prosscess easier:P
RacerX
11-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Hey, didn't Sean H. start the rumor that intake lobes were 3° off from each other? ;) I'm suprised no one has ever tried to say the block would turn to thermite because there's aluminum and iron together in there... :D

BTW, Sean's books do have an incredible wealth of knowledge in them. You just can't take one book or person's word as gospel...