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Motorhead350
11-26-2010, 10:48 PM
The car has been holding up just fine. A friend of mine told me to put Lucas in the car when the oil is changed. I changed the oil and pored the stuff in. The tick went away or so I thought. Turns out the car makes the tick noise when it's first started and cold. When I drive it for five minutes or all day it's gone. Another noise was the exhaust leak too. I'm going to get that taken care of and see if all noises go away.

If not I was told it could be a lifter. I don't know what it cost to replace one or the time it takes. Does anyone know how long it takes to replace one?

Also even if the tick goes away upon use I still wanna Hot Rod this car this summer. I am guessing the Lucas is just to limp around or cruise, not to go to the track, run 12s and not worry.

Any idea on this possible lifter?

69ranchero351c
11-27-2010, 12:03 AM
i know on the 2v's its easy, 4v shouldnt be any different.

take the valvecover off on the side its making noise and look for a follower that is obviously way too loose, then take a screwdiver and pop the follower out pull the lifter out and replace then put the follower back in, thats really the only hard part getting it back in. thats how i do them on the 2v's

Rocknthehawk
11-27-2010, 12:19 AM
lol.
lol.
lol.


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67387
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66899
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66873
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66710
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66713
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66675
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66709

What's one more thread about what you wont do?

RR|Suki
11-27-2010, 07:57 AM
lol.
lol.
lol.


http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67387
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66899
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66873
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66710
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66713
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66675
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66709

What's one more thread about what you wont do?


Now now, I don't see how that proteins to the matter of the given question. :D

TFB
11-27-2010, 08:29 AM
Since you had smashed spark plugs something is wrong internally and it ain't likely a lifter/lash adjuster...

A cracked piston can be noisy when cold but barely noticeable when the engine is at operating temp, at least till it goes Ka-Boom...

FordNut
11-27-2010, 08:37 AM
Since you had smashed spark plugs something is wrong internally and it ain't likely a lifter/lash adjuster...

A cracked piston can be noisy when cold but barely noticeable when the engine is at operating temp, at least till it goes Ka-Boom...

The cold, hard voice of reason...

FordNut
11-27-2010, 08:40 AM
I kind of get a chuckle out of this thread... Like my step-daughter with her bad Windstar transmission, ask enough people their opinion and eventually one of them will tell you what you want to hear. Then pick that one as the gospel.

babbage
11-27-2010, 09:24 AM
I kind of get a chuckle out of this thread... Like my step-daughter with her bad Windstar transmission, ask enough people their opinion and eventually one of them will tell you what you want to hear. Then pick that one as the gospel.


Yep, Problem is (as you well know) that cars are based on science and math, there are only facts and pure truth. Dom that whole long block is suspect. It has lots of miles, isn't forged and even if you get the one piston, lifter, cam corrected the others will not be far behind.

03 reman cobra long block is what you want.

Good luck.

a_d_a_m
11-27-2010, 11:07 AM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67387
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66899
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66873
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66710
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66713
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66675
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66709

What's one more thread about what you wont do? The original post dates don't even go back two months! Holy crap that's a lot of useless questions!:lol:

DOOM
11-27-2010, 11:20 AM
03 reman cobra long block is what you want.

Good luck.


:agree:

Couldn't agree anymore with this!

Dom this is what you need!!!

Don't waste your time with anything else!

Blackened300a
11-27-2010, 01:03 PM
The car has been holding up just fine. A friend of mine told me to put Lucas in the car when the oil is changed. I changed the oil and pored the stuff in. The tick went away or so I thought. Turns out the car makes the tick noise when it's first started and cold. When I drive it for five minutes or all day it's gone. Another noise was the exhaust leak too. I'm going to get that taken care of and see if all noises go away.

If not I was told it could be a lifter. I don't know what it cost to replace one or the time it takes. Does anyone know how long it takes to replace one?

Also even if the tick goes away upon use I still wanna Hot Rod this car this summer. I am guessing the Lucas is just to limp around or cruise, not to go to the track, run 12s and not worry.

Any idea on this possible lifter?

Dom, dont you have the hotline to Zack or did he finally cut you off? The guy who swapped out your engine and has been your own personal mechanic can answer all of these questions in a single phone call.

Also pushrod engines have lifters, we have cam followers. The cam pushes down on the follower to open the valve where on a pushrod engine, the lifters ride on the cam and push the valves open via a pushrod. When my engine let go, I poured Marvel mystery oil in the cylinder and for 5 seconds it quieted the knock then it returned. I had a broke wristpin which cocked the piston and warped my cylinder wall. The wristpin is likely your issue just not as servere.....yet.
Its likely you're hearing the wrist pin slop as the piston reaches TDC and starts going down. It will only get worse so I suggest stop playing around and have your engine opened up. Unplug each injector til the noise changes, that will isolate which cylinder. The bandaid will be to pull the engine and replace that piston and rod depending on the condition of the cylinder wall. Otherwise you can ask a million questions and never have your problem solved.

69ranchero351c
11-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Dom, dont you have the hotline to Zack or did he finally cut you off? The guy who swapped out your engine and has been your own personal mechanic can answer all of these questions in a single phone call.

Also pushrod engines have lifters, we have cam followers. The cam pushes down on the follower to open the valve where on a pushrod engine, the lifters ride on the cam and push the valves open via a pushrod. When my engine let go, I poured Marvel mystery oil in the cylinder and for 5 seconds it quieted the knock then it returned. I had a broke wristpin which cocked the piston and warped my cylinder wall. The wristpin is likely your issue just not as servere.....yet.
Its likely you're hearing the wrist pin slop as the piston reaches TDC and starts going down. It will only get worse so I suggest stop playing around and have your engine opened up. Unplug each injector til the noise changes, that will isolate which cylinder. The bandaid will be to pull the engine and replace that piston and rod depending on the condition of the cylinder wall. Otherwise you can ask a million questions and never have your problem solved.


no, 4.6's have cam followers and lifters or lash adjusters depending on what u want to call them.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/TFS-21400008/96-04-Mustang-46-54L-2V-4V-Hydraulic-Lash-Adjuster

Blackened300a
11-27-2010, 05:20 PM
Whenever I think lifters, I think pushrod motors with solid or hydraulic.

TFB
11-27-2010, 05:48 PM
I had a broke wristpin which cocked the piston and warped my cylinder wall. The wristpin is likely your issue just not as servere.....yet.

A wrist pin or busted pin boss in the piston will generally make more noise when the engine is warm... Dom's engine is likely missing a chunk or two of one or more pistons, probably due to detonation...

justbob
11-27-2010, 08:18 PM
Dom, you won't listen to sound advice just like me back in the day but I will tell you my best possible advice and I know I am wasting my precious fingers typing this but I mean no disrespect at all.

SELL that Blazer NOW. Buy a good beater car, one with a long history of being dependable (Escort/Taurus/GM/S-10/Astro van) with the money from the Blazer sale. Park the Rauder before more damage is done and put money away whenever possible for a low mileage cobra block. That is the best/cheapest solution that I can share.

You KNOW this is the best route to take, but you are stubborn just like I used to be, so I get it. Just trying to pass on wise advice from many years of screwing my very self and learning the hardest way possible.

I refuse to get that attached to a stupid machine that is oh so very replaceable.

FordNut
11-27-2010, 08:40 PM
Good advice. Last year I finally sold Big Blue, the '79 F150 4x4 that I had owned since 1988. Finally got to the point I had to work on it every time I used it. Lots of great memories, had it through 3 wives, countless girlfriends, many trips to the woods (even had it totally airborne), mud bogging, hauling dirt bikes to the woods, recovering stuck and broken vehicles... Now I can hardly remember it, much less miss it a lot.

Rocknthehawk
11-27-2010, 08:41 PM
Since you had smashed spark plugs something is wrong internally and it ain't likely a lifter/lash adjuster...

A cracked piston can be noisy when cold but barely noticeable when the engine is at operating temp, at least till it goes Ka-Boom...

Everyone here knows this is true, but the one person that needs to listen won't. My brother Hot-Rauder had similar trouble with his MM...started as a tick....eventually sounded like a bowling ball being thrown around. Something about the cam not being installed correctly and eventually bending a whole bunch of parts.


The original post dates don't even go back two months! Holy crap that's a lot of useless questions!:lol:

And thats just posts about FIXING his car!


Dom, you won't listen to sound advice just like me back in the day but I will tell you my best possible advice and I know I am wasting my precious fingers typing this but I mean no disrespect at all.

SELL that Blazer NOW. Buy a good beater car, one with a long history of being dependable (Escort/Taurus/GM/S-10/Astro van) with the money from the Blazer sale. Park the Rauder before more damage is done and put money away whenever possible for a low mileage cobra block. That is the best/cheapest solution that I can share.

You KNOW this is the best route to take, but you are stubborn just like I used to be, so I get it. Just trying to pass on wise advice from many years of screwing my very self and learning the hardest way possible.

I refuse to get that attached to a stupid machine that is oh so very replaceable.

Sell that pos? blasphemy!

Brian H
11-27-2010, 10:44 PM
Yea Dom, I'm pretty sure WE had a motor from an '03 Cobra lined up in Oct. for around,.......what was it $300!!!!!!! and you bailed wasn't it?.......Hmmmmmm.........anot her good decision!

Motorhead350
11-29-2010, 09:35 PM
Brian the guy quit returning my calls. At that point I said screw it, the truck works I'll drive that. That's why I don't have it, HE bailed, NOT me.

Hawk, it's not a POS and you've never seen it. So keep your fingertips to things you know.

Bob, I'm never going to sell it ever. It's just going to sit. Besides I don't need a car to get around in my town (no pun intended) plus the GF just bought another car so if I need to get around I can.

Zack is willing to do a swap and thinks it's a total waste to even try to save my engine. I just wanna have it pulled apart or at least something to see what the actual issue is. I don't wanna swap engines and find out it was something stupid like last time. See if I didn't have the experience I did a few years ago, where I spend $3,000 when I didn't have to I might jump on what you guys said. "Buy another engine... you idiot who never listens!" Well I did that before and it bit me, I don't want the same dog to bite me twice. I think you all get the point by now.

I want to see the broken part in my hand before I say "Alright time to start saving for that LONGBLOCK." Until I see it, I'm just going to keep going at this one.

The tick seems to just be exhaust related. Another guy told me I just reved it too high and that explains the plug. So I'm getting the exhaust done (because I lack airtools) and seeing if it completely goes away. If not Zack offered to take it apart, but says it's a complete waste of time. For the labor cost of checking the engine out, it's a lot less than just replacing it. If it turns out it's something stupid and the engine is saved great! I'm not down $3,000+ and it's fixed. If it really does need to be replaced so be it. It's a gamble, but the car runs and drives fine! Just like it did for the past few years!

I'll keep you guys updated. Keep saying to sell the truck and get an engine, but I won't. The advice given is good, but you are all really jumping to conclusions before we know the actual problem. Besides after I changed the plugs, none came back in poor condition... but I bet that doesn't mean a thing because I haven't raced it or even gave it WOT after that day at the track.

Rocknthehawk
11-30-2010, 12:33 AM
Listen to enough people, and you'll hear what you want.

any vehicle that's had 8, or 11 transmissions, is a piece of ****.

Motorhead350
11-30-2010, 12:37 AM
Listen to enough people, and you'll hear what you want.

any vehicle that's had 8, or 11 transmissions, is a piece of ****.

Yeah says you. Now you are looking for a reason to be offensive. You should really reevaluate yourself if you think you are a good person.

You fail. :flamer:

Rocknthehawk
11-30-2010, 10:12 AM
Yeah says you. Now you are looking for a reason to be offensive. You should really reevaluate yourself if you think you are a good person.

You fail. :flamer:
:lol:

you're funny Dom. please, point out to me where I'm not a good person? A reason to be offensive? It's too easy, you do it to yourself. Maybe the truth hurts. You said it yourself, someone finally told you what you wanted to hear, so you'll believe it. Please, explain why if your blazer is such a great vehicle, that you continue to have issues with it, and can't drive it.

who fails here? The guy that makes thread after thread about parts he won't buy, how to fix things he won't, and hearing the same advice.....

or the guy(s) pointing that out to him?

:alone:

Egon Spengler
11-30-2010, 11:20 AM
Yeah says you. Now you are looking for a reason to be offensive. You should really reevaluate yourself if you think you are a good person.

You fail. :flamer:


:lol:

you're funny Dom. please, point out to me where I'm not a good person? A reason to be offensive? It's too easy, you do it to yourself. Maybe the truth hurts. You said it yourself, someone finally told you what you wanted to hear, so you'll believe it. Please, explain why if your blazer is such a great vehicle, that you continue to have issues with it, and can't drive it.

who fails here? The guy that makes thread after thread about parts he won't buy, how to fix things he won't, and hearing the same advice.....

or the guy(s) pointing that out to him?

:alone:
Aaron (Rocknthehawk) is good people.

yjmud
12-01-2010, 07:48 AM
If I had a vehicle that cooked 8-11 trans. that s.o.b. would be down the road
maybe you should figure out WHY!!!!!!
having a truck or car that is not modded going through that many = FAIL

Got_1
12-01-2010, 03:49 PM
If I had a vehicle that cooked 8-11 trans. that s.o.b. would be down the road
maybe you should figure out WHY!!!!!!
having a truck or car that is not modded going through that many = FAIL

exactly^^.
are you putting these trannys in or are professionals?
and are you/they flushing the cooler/lines each time the transmission is replaced?

Motorhead350
12-02-2010, 09:12 AM
Hawk, MOST of the last posts in the last year have been nothing, but useless and offensive. Every post of yours has me in a signature misspelling a word... and for what reason? To make me sound stupid? Surely this isn't out of kindness. Just for that alone you are a total a-hole towards me. If I ever see you at a meet I will tell it to your face, even if you make like the other people who have a problem with me and just play ghost mode when I am physically around. The truck has nothing to do with anything Marauder related. I guess I am the only one here who ever get's attached to a vehicle, I have maybe meet five people in my lifetime that understand my POV.

What makes it so great? It makes me happy when it works simple as that. I do not need to convince you people of anything. It's for me, not for you. You don't like it, I don't care. It'll be around longer than the Marauder probably and that car I never wanna part with either.

Back on topic, I have having the exhaust checked out today for all leaks. I have been told it'll be fine, but I am not sure. If the tick goes away completely with a few gaskets I'll be very happy. If it really is a bad engine part, I'm going to drive it till it blows up and still drive it like a mad man. Either way the engine will be fine or have to be replaced, there is no reason to go easy with it!

Joe Walsh
12-02-2010, 09:35 AM
The original post dates don't even go back two months! Holy crap that's a lot of useless questions!:lol:

"Nothing new here folks!.....Move along now....move along!"

Motorhead350
12-02-2010, 09:38 AM
Anything is useless to another if they already know the answer.

Egon Spengler
12-02-2010, 09:46 AM
tick... tick... BOOM!

CBT
12-02-2010, 10:04 AM
tick... tick... BOOM!

HA! That's what she said!

PonyUP
12-02-2010, 12:39 PM
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I had to do it, the door was wide open.

that having been said, Dom, if you love your truck then Godspeed as you move forward, I wish you the best.

However I would be careful if the tick continues driving it to harshly, you could end up doing damage to more than the engine that will only cost more money.

If the exhaust doesn't fix it, I would get it somewhere that can diagnos what the problem is so that you can get it fixed and enjoy the car for many years to come. Good luck

Motorhead350
12-02-2010, 02:07 PM
tick... tick... BOOM!

Buckcherry or The Hives? :confused:

Motorhead350
12-05-2010, 07:36 PM
Zack said there is no tick, but I should still be worried about that piston. All is well... or at least to get around.

Blackened300a
12-06-2010, 07:43 AM
Well some good news. Now start saving up so you'll have a option if it lets go.