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NOMARQUIS
12-16-2003, 12:47 PM
Ok,

I braved the salty roads and took my few day old Marauder for a cruise. I was rolling down a 4 lane highway at 70 mph when 2 cars came flying up behind me. I saw the nose dip down on the lead car, which was a Neon with a ground effect kit on it. He must have really slammed on the brakes because the car nose dived even with the 900 pound metal trunk mounted wing. The two cars signaled over behind me. They left me several car lengths of room. Keep in mind it was night, so they probably didn't see "Marauder" on my bumper cover. They wouldn't pass me. I floored it, and took off. Funny, they just stayed behind.

Also, I noticed people tap the brakes when I pull up on them. This sort of stinks when you are in a hurry. I wanna sit in the median some day and watch the brake lights come on. :)

Does this ever happen to you guys? I guess my girlfriend is not the only one who thinks my new car "looks like a cop car."

Eric

FYI I've driven it 300 miles, I love my car. I ordered weather mats and a front end bra from Ford. The Marauder is SWEET!

CRUZTAKER
12-16-2003, 01:06 PM
Daily issue....we are officially wtfisit's :P

I got on the PA at redlight after nearly rear ending an accord with no tail-lights. I holler at the driver to notify him of this situation. What does he do? He pulls off to the berm and blocks traffic....now who looks like the idiot? Me! Cause I am not LEO! I holler back into the mic, 'driver, I'm just warning you that you have NO break lights...get it looked at!' He waves his hand, and off he goes, thinking wow, all I got was a warning....good thing 'cause my console is loaded with crack.

The PA is TOO much fun:D

duhtroll
12-16-2003, 01:41 PM
Go WOT up an on ramp and watch traffic pull to the shoulder when they see you comin'.

Happens about every third time I do it. Even more often with the black steel wheels on.

:P

-A

Amsoil_Dealer
12-16-2003, 05:11 PM
I have a 99 CV, silver in color with a black grille. everyone thinks I am "plain brown wrapper". Plus, I most often wear plain white shirts and sungalsses which makes matters worse.

I was amused by it at first but it has become a RPITA. People literally slam on their brakes when I approach them from behind. I have had people pass me at speed and when I slide in behind them they hit their brakes. Sometimes when they have determined I am not a cop, speed away, and then "forget" that I am not a cop and hit their brakes again. It drives me crazy.

Don

BlackHole
12-16-2003, 05:16 PM
So how do you Fall and what does it look like LOL!!!!!!! I think the word is FEEL.

Ever fell like a cop.:shake: :shake: Ever feel like a cop yes even my county mounties think so as I was leading 4 CVPI's of the Tusc. County Sheriff then I pulled over and let them all go and each one looked at me like WTF!!!!!!!!! until they noticed I didn't have the 2 ft high yellow lettering on the side.:D

martyo
12-16-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by duhtroll
Go WOT up an on ramp and watch traffic pull to the shoulder when they see you comin'.

Better still, head down a one way street heading the wrong way and watch the reactions.

Or hang your head out of the window and make siren noises like Todd does. You ought to see the reactions he gets.

We are not cops. Well, most of us aren't anyway. So, get over it.

chapel1
12-16-2003, 06:25 PM
When I had my 93 greenC/V with the sport pkg and people knew it was'nt a police car they seemly would go out of their way just to get bye me?It was wierd,it was like they thought I must be one of thier elderly relatives that needed a driving lesson?
Now with the Marauder that doe'snt ever happen.Quite the opposite the roads open up and young kids driving snap thier necks to see what's behind them?I swear you can see the whites of thier eyes.:D

RCSignals
12-16-2003, 09:24 PM
So, marty. Wanna buy a siren......

martyo
12-16-2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by RCSignals
So, marty. Wanna buy a siren......

Naaaa, I will just keep letting Todd sticking his head out of the window and wailing.

MM03MOK
12-16-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by martyo
Naaaa, I will just keep letting Todd sticking his head out of the window and wailing. Make sure you give Todd an ice cube! ;)

martyo
12-16-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by MM03MOK
Make sure you give Todd an ice cube! ;)

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

jparrie
12-16-2003, 09:51 PM
Has anyone installed a wig wag headlight controller? I imagine a guy could have some fun with that.

Jim

MM03MOK
12-16-2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by martyo
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: You know....good TAFfy, now sit and don't drool on my car!

junehhan
12-16-2003, 11:07 PM
That doesn't seem to happen at all with my Silver Marauder, but boy did that happen a LOT when I had my old 2000 Crown Vic. The wierdest of those events happened when I floored it onto the highway one night, and these ricers were racing when they saw me and slammed on their brakes so hard I smelled burning brake material from behind them. They were doing some serious speeds and I actually found it hilarious............

However, that affect was actually annoying and i'm glad that type of stuff doesn't happen with the Marauder!

teamrope
12-16-2003, 11:20 PM
Had it happen in my 95 GM. Its WSP white, Limo tint, and I was on a trip so I had my mag mount CB antenna on the roof. I hit the onramp at WOT, stayed 5 over the limit, and it was 15 minutes befor the first car had the guts to pass. Her kid held up a piece of paper that said "Are you a Cop?"

teamrope
12-16-2003, 11:24 PM
I also had a country town cop Sitting at a speed trap let me go by because the car I was passing was between me and him. He couln't see the plates so he must have thought I was state patrol.
I had her 15 over the limit then to get around the car I was passing on a two lane road.

Long Live #3
12-17-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by martyo
We are not cops. Well, most of us aren't anyway. So, get over it.

It's fun to pretend that we are anyway.

Glenn
12-17-2003, 12:58 AM
I had an unusual experience today relating to all of the above posts. I wore my black leather MM jacket for the first time with my aviator cop sunglasses. I had more than a few people study me real hard before passing me. The leather jacket definitely makes people think twice. Also, a cop shot my MM with a laser gun thought an empty car trailer and I thought I had it for sure - nothing! Of course stupid me, I had the Beltronics unit shut-off. The car does look like a cop car not only to people, but also to the police.

Glenn

ahess77
12-17-2003, 05:55 AM
I have driven a 99 Dark Blue Crown Vic LX with a push bumper and steel rims for 105,000 miles and 3 years now and have not been pulled over. It has no markings other than the push bumper on front (you can see it in the photo gallery). I have passed troopers at 20+ over and they don't give me a second look.

One problem in Michigan is that we get a lot of people who park their cars in the left lane at about 5 under the speed limit. With my headlights on and at about 15 mph over the limit, the ones who actually look in their mirrors will move over (but only about half of the "gummers" actually look in their mirror between cell phone calls.) As well I've seen speeders pratically lock up their brakes on the interstate trying to slow down and get out of the left lane when they see me.

I specifically looked for a blue Marauder because it's close to the Michigan State Police blue used on all the cruisers (Michigan Police Blue is acually one of the factory color codes for the panther platform) I'm strongly considering putting the push bumper on the front of the Marauder. But, I love the chrome rims and I don't think they would go with it. (Maybe a chrome push bar with a Marauder logo on it? Any vendors interested?)

Haggis
12-17-2003, 05:56 AM
I've noticed that when I am driving down the highway most people just pull over and let me go past and they pull back behind me. It is great I feel like Moses parting the sea. I have also noticed that a lot of people don't pass me right away it takes them a few minutes to figure out that I am not LEO and then they pass cautiously. Also if some one passes me like a total d**k or going really fast sometimes I will pull up behind them and make them think twice, sometimes they pull over and let me go other times they just continue on their way with reaction. Sometimes I wish I was a cop to pull over some of these *********s on the road, but not my job so I will let the real LEO take care of them.

duhtroll
12-17-2003, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by martyo
Better still, head down a one way street heading the wrong way and watch the reactions.

Or hang your head out of the window and make siren noises like Todd does. You ought to see the reactions he gets.

We are not cops. Well, most of us aren't anyway. So, get over it.

Get over what? I go WOT up empty onramps because it's the safest place to do it, and it's good for the car. I have a nice long straight onramp connected to a mostly empty 4-lane on my way home from work every day. It's their own dang fault for putting in such a fun place to play.

The steel wheels are part of the snow tire package.

Who's pretending? I just found it funny.

Next you'll be chastising me for the light bar, pillar spotlight, and gold star decals I have on my ride, and that "smokey" hat I wear while driving. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

-A

O's Fan Rich
12-17-2003, 08:04 AM
Not often with teh MM, but ALL the time with my 99 Vic, wedgewood blue with the duals exhaust. Had loads of laughs at others expense with that car. Dang punk kids.....:D

Alan
12-17-2003, 07:52 PM
A little off topic...but:

I encourage you to contact your local law enforcement office and see if they do ride-alongs. No...you won't see any real action. Yes...you will do the boring stuff while out on a ride-along and be kept at a very safe distance from things, but you might get a small glimpse into our world. It might give you a greater appreciation for just exactly what we put up with each day.

Not intended as a flame. This is just constructive criticism:
I recommend that you not "pretend" to be in law enforcement. That type of activity can get you in deep trouble. I realize this topic is about how the MMs resemble PIs and reactions to them, but I do NOT encourage things like "pulling over on the side of the roadway to watch brake lights" or quickly pulling in behind someone driving fast on the freeway to "teach them a lesson" or to "just mess with them". Those sorts of things are just not appropriate. I can't think of a single peer in my department who would encourage or reward that type of behavior. Again...this is not a flame. Just an observation. That sort of behavior could quickly get you a ticket and/or a trip in the back of a cruiser.

If you want to be in law enforcement...by all means...jump in feet first and enroll yourself in an academy. It's never too late and we can always use more "good guys/gals" out there. :)

Jay Stark
12-17-2003, 08:00 PM
10-4

CRUZTAKER
12-17-2003, 08:16 PM
Yes SIR

MM03MOK
12-17-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Alan
A little off topic...but:

I encourage you to contact your local law enforcement office and see if they do ride-alongs. No...you won't see any real action. Yes...you will do the boring stuff while out on a ride-along and be kept at a very safe distance from things, but you might get a small glimpse into our world. It might give you a greater appreciation for just exactly what we put up with each day.

Alan, that's a great suggestion. I did just that 8 years ago, attending a ten-week course my local PD offered - Citizens Police Academy. Funding comes from community policing grants.

Besides learning about the law, booking procedures, use of deadly force, defensive tactics, firearms, domestic violence, controlled substances, DARE, juvenile court, use of radar and communications, we were and are encouraged to do ride-alongs (I've done at least two dozen: OUI/DUI stops, breaking up underage drinking parties, big bar brawl, accidents, ATM robbery, domestic violence.......)

The benefits are three-fold. You make many friends in the community, you get to know your local LEOs and also see first-hand the ups and the downs of their daily patrol. I've made many long-lasting friends and am also an advocate for my PD within the community. I'm a founding member of our Alumni group and publish a monthly newsletter.

Take Alan's advice. Make the call. Take a peek at what our LEOs do for us day in and day out. LEOs: I thank you! May St. Michael watch over you and protect you.

Richy63
12-17-2003, 08:47 PM
Well these were entertaining. I retired from the Police, won't go back, few of the members are the police (LEO's if you prefer). Hey people are STUPID that is why there are police. Yeah when I am cruising down the road people do the same stupid stuff they did when I drove the marked car, now in my Sable I never say anything. Do the police think the MM is another cop, maybe I have blown past a couple at a rather high rate of speed. Thought to myself, well it's too late now maybe they will think I am headed to a call. Interesing thing I am in Nevada with Florida tags, I am sure my time is comming. It's kinda nice to have the confusing look, is that a Fed, Deputy or Trooper in that Marauder, why do they get those and we get Lumina's.

RCSignals
12-17-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Alan
That sort of behavior could quickly get you a ticket and/or a trip in the back of a cruiser.



Or dead

woaface
12-17-2003, 09:32 PM
NOMARQUIS...Great story...I love hearin stuff like that.

It only happens to me when I'm rollin down the far left lane on the interstate and there are people in front of me who aren't sure exactly sure what I'm drivin. I usually get a quater mile of space at that point. Otherwise, I'm fairly well ignored....all that cladding and chrome gives me away.

One thing made me jump the first 2 or 3 times I saw it was a retired P71 that the airport uses for transporting customers. I figure they left "Interceptor" badging and strobes in the front and back window and behind the grill on to help along with an established presence if ya know what I mean. The only thing that gives it away is the "GSP Airport Transportation Service" logo on the side doors and the old man driving who can't see over the steering wheel. I see it about town several times a week and most everyone around does a nose dive when he's around.

Alan
12-18-2003, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by MM03MOK
Alan, that's a great suggestion...(edited to save space)...

Bunny,

Great post! I really hope people don't take my post the wrong way. I do strongly encourage people to do ride-alongs. You have put it more eloquently than I about the benefits of it all. Thank you!!!

SHERIFF
12-18-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by MM03MOK
Take a peek at what our LEOs do for us day in and day out.

Ut oh!!! Here I go again.....

I think you could word that a little more accurately. As in......

"Take a peek at what 98% of our LEOs do for us day in and day out."

You don't want to see what the other 2% do day in and day out.

One of the worst examples in recent history, and for the life of me I can't remember where it was.... a lady calls the police and reports a "breaking & entering". The cop shows up and takes a report. The lady explains what was stolen, and how the burglar was such a dumbass, as in what he overlooked of value.

When the cop got off later in the evening he himself went back, murdered the woman, and stole the rest of her valuables she had pointed out to him. :mad2:

The point is...... don't ever assume you can trust a person just because they are wearing a badge and gun!!!!


edited to add - in the county which totally surrounds the city I live in..... the 2nd in command (Captain) of the police department was arrested, charged and convicted of soliciting gay torture and sex with juveniles on the Internet. Wasn't this person suppose to be protecting our youth????? :mad2:

SHERIFF
12-18-2003, 08:06 AM
Another point I might add....... I hate for anybody to think I am a cop when they are following me in any of my cars. It's too hard to throw beer cans out the window when you have people slowing down and staying behind you. :)

MAD-3R
12-18-2003, 08:26 AM
The point is...... don't ever assume you can trust a person just because they are wearing a badge and gun!!!!

I have been accused of being a raving paranoid and to have a dosage increase on more then one occasion, but it’s statements like that one that get me twitching. :lol: Even I feel the need to trust those that chose to were the badge. Yes, there are bad ones in every organization. But we CAN’T, as a society, stop trusting them. That road leads to chaos and anarchy, and would disrupt my plans for world domination.

woaface
12-18-2003, 09:57 AM
That's pretty awful (to kill that woman)....I was leaving my sisters house once and I had my hand resting on the door nob when someone tried to break in...I locked the door quickly and yelled at my sister. He walked off casually but walked around several more times. My sister called 911 and it took the cop 20 minute to get there. If I wouldn't have yelled, that idiot would have broken and would have done who knows what. The cop said "Sorry, I was on foot, that's why it took me so long." Of course when he leaves he jumps in a cruiser and drives off! It was awful, I do believe my sister filed a complaint but some good that does. My sis has a friend that's a cop who was 30 minutes (driving normally) away at the time, and he could have gotten there quicker!

SHERIFF
12-18-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by MAD-3R
Yes, there are bad ones in every organization. But we CAN?T, as a society, stop trusting them.


OK............ but explain to me one thing please. How do we distinguish the 98% good from the 2% bad? Hard question, huh? :)

Your suggestion is exactly what got the lady killed in the first example I cited.

And....... who would have ever thought the person on the other end of an Internet connection soliciting juvenile boys for torture and sex was a COP? A Captain at that?

Getting off the subject of cops in general, I will never forget the TV reports of mechanics and refrigerator repairmen cheating people on hidden cameras. So, yes, every profession has the rotten apples. True.

SHERIFF
12-18-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by woaface My sister called 911 and it took the cop 20 minute to get there.

And you feel this is unusual?? :confused:



Originally posted by woaface The cop said "Sorry, I was on foot, that's why it took me so long." Of course when he leaves he jumps in a cruiser and drives off!

I am sure what he meant was he was out on foot when he received the dispatch to head to your sister's house. He had to get back to his car before he could start responding. :)

jgc61sr2002
12-18-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by jparrie
Has anyone installed a wig wag headlight controller? I imagine a guy could have some fun with that.

Jim I guess you know that is illegal.

Jeff
12-18-2003, 12:50 PM
I have a "friend of police" sticker on my rear left side of my back glass. On several occasions people have started to pass me and then thought better of it when they see the "badge" in the window. :D

woaface
12-18-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by SHERIFF
And you feel this is unusual?? :confused:

I am sure what he meant was he was out on foot when he received the dispatch to head to your sister's house. He had to get back to his car before he could start responding. :)


Well 20 minutes when you say someone is breaking into your house during a 911 call. It's a fairly well populated area of town and any state trooper just down the road on I-85 could have been notified if they were closest. When he said he was on foot, he said he had to walk there. No worries now though...

SHERIFF
12-19-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by woaface
When he said he was on foot, he said he had to walk there.


Ohhhhh! You met what we call a "lazy cop" then! He considered the walk from the police car to the front door to be quite long and unusual. :)

woaface
12-19-2003, 01:58 PM
Haha...I'll remember that one...

SILVERMARAUDER
12-19-2003, 02:50 PM
WHAT HE SAID!!!! IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!!!!!


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Haggis
[B]I've noticed that when I am driving down the highway most people just pull over and let me go past and they pull back behind me. I have also noticed that a lot of people don't pass me right away it takes them a few minutes to figure out that I am not A COP and then they pass cautiously.

BillyGman
12-23-2003, 12:50 AM
family on the force although I've never been a cop myself. But here's my take on the cop issue:

The PD enforces the law primarily by making arrests. And more often than not, an arrest is made AFTER the crime is committed. Not BEFORE, or even DURING. Yes sometimes that happens too, but not usually. The PD also acts as a deterent too. Now you might think that's not true because of all the crime that you read abut in the newspapers. But believe me, if you were to do away w/your local PD tomorrow, I gaurantee you that within weeks, and possibly even days, the streets would be utter chaos because criminals would know that there's no possibility of any consequences other than vigilante acts.

So my whole point is that even though I'd never suggest that it's wrong to call 911 when you suspect someome attempting to break in your house, I do think that it's unrealistic to expect the PD to protect you from that happening in the first place. There just isn't enough police officers around for that.

That's what Mr. Smith & Wesson, and Mr. Mossberg 12 gauge is for. Now ofcourse lethal force should only be used as a last resort, and to defend your life and/or well being, as well as that of your family. Firearms cannot legally be used to defend your belongings or your property, but when and IF your life is being threatened, then it's unrealistic to hope that a police officer can arrive BEFORE you lose it.

I take no joy in having to state these things, but that's the reality of it.

SHERIFF
12-23-2003, 09:14 AM
I have to disagree. People are arrested for a crime a lot of times without probable cause. Of course the crime has been comitted, but the cop does not know that. Here's an example from an old rerun of cops I watched Sunday afternoon......

Cop pulls up on a guy walking through a public park after dark.....

Cop: What are you doing?

Guy: Going home.

Cop: Put your hands on the hood.

Cop: Spread your legs.

(starts to frisk subject)

Cop: What is this I feel?

Guy: What?

Cop: Feels like plastic, inside your pants.

Guy: That's my deodorant.

(cop pulls out a plastic deodorant canister, opens it, and searches it, finds drugs)

Cop: You're now under arrest, posession of drugs!

The cop performed an illegal search. The Supreme Court has ruled the officer can frisk him for dangerous weapons or threats to the officer's safety. The Supreme Court never said the cop can open an obvious deodorant container and look for a crime being comitted. The officer never asked for permission to search the deodorant container. How in the hell cops get these illegal searches through court I will never understand. But, as far as I know, the guy's attorney may have been successful in getting the case thrown out too.

BillyGman
12-23-2003, 07:00 PM
disagreeing w/me. Right? But I don't see where you've explained why. You've just discribed a scenario, where a crime has already been committed, before the suspect was arrested. In this case it was drug possession. So that just backs up my point. The suspect was NOT arrested BEFORE the crime was committed, but after. Right, or wrong?

SHERIFF
12-23-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by BillyGman
The suspect was NOT arrested BEFORE the crime was committed, but after. Right, or wrong?


Depends on whether you agree the cop violated the defendant's civil rights or not. That too is a crime ya know. If you doubt me, just ask Sergeant Stacey Koon or Officer Larry Powell. :)


ps - the defendant was detained and WAS NOT free to leave. So, yes, I think he was technically arrested before the cop knew a crime had been committed. That's what I hate about the TV show COPS, you never know the outcome of the cases. I have seen many episodes where I can gaurantee you the charges were dismissed in court. And I have seen many episodes where I am almost certain lawsuits have later been filed as well.

BillyGman
12-23-2003, 08:46 PM
making has nothing to do w/what I'm Talking about. I have no argument w/your point concerning a suspect's rights. My entire point that you've claimed to disagree with had to do w/how unrealistic it would be for someone to expect to be protected by the PD from a crime that would take place on their property. And I was also commenting about how an officer's duty is supposed to be carried out. NOT on how a minority of BAD cops operate. And the latter seems to be what you're talking about.

So you're comparing apples to oranges...........

SergntMac
12-23-2003, 09:26 PM
I think you are wong here SHERIFF, and from the Court's point of view, not mine.

I teach search and seizure to CPD recruits, and your beliefs about what is "constitutionally correct" police conduct in any classic Terry "stop and frisk" scenario dates your police service back to 1986.

Been some changes since then SHERIFF, and y'all need to stay up to date on them if y'all still stopin and friskin...

The Terry street search game is played much differently today, however, I'm not going to entertain your arguments on this topic, believe what you wish. I will not discuss this anymore. More important to me here, are topics related to the Marauder.

Got headers, SHERIFF? What gears are you running? Got stat? Chip? Denso's? What's different about your front passenger door? Any vibration issues over 120 MPH? How's your tire wear? Alignment? How about that "chunk" or "creek" we all live with on hard right turns on to unlevel pavement? Are you pestered by the your water closet trunk lid? Any cold start issues? Where is your selling dealer located, and how does your dealer treat your complaints? Are they mod friendly? Any unusual tire wear? I know I already asked this, but that was about front tires. How are your back tires wearing now? Does your sub-woofer rattle? Or, does it sound fuzzy? Do your dash lights flicker? Do you have map pockets? Chrome tranny shifter? Internal gas door release or not? Full sized spare tire or not? Polished spare rim? Sunroof? What are your 60' times? Skidpad? Snow tires?

Ummm...Sorry, I'm outta breath.

Y'all got anything to share with us SHERIFF?

Or are you just here for the taking?

Nevermind. Sorry I asked. What ever...

Happy holidays to y'all. Y'all be safe, an see ya next year.

TAF
12-23-2003, 09:30 PM
BRAVO!!! ^^^^^^

It's like watching a maestro at work!!!

SergntMac
12-23-2003, 09:46 PM
TAF...My heart is with you and Ruth this holiday. God's speed, my friend. Please keep in touch with me when you can. I miss your calls.

BillyGman
12-24-2003, 12:03 AM
I hear that.......merry Christmas to all you guys. Mac, soory I missed your call the other day. i tried calling ya yesterday, but no answer. I'll try again:)

SHERIFF
12-24-2003, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by SergntMac

Y'all got anything to share with us SHERIFF?

Or are you just here for the taking?

Nevermind. Sorry I asked. What ever...





It's OK, I don't mind you asking......

I'm not here for Marauder discussions. Just like Crown Victorias, everything about the Marauder has been discussed over and over and over and over and over....... and then again. :)

If I was here for Marauder discussions I would not confine myself to "The Lounge" and "The Storyboard".

The Lounge - All OFF-TOPIC, marauder unrelated posts must go here.

The Storyboard - Post your stories and detail your "adventures" here.

BillyGman
12-24-2003, 07:20 AM
maybe I've missed something, but how come you don't hang out on a Crown Vic sight if you have no interest in Marauders?

SHERIFF
12-24-2003, 08:36 AM
:)
Originally posted by BillyGman
maybe I've missed something, but how come you don't hang out on a Crown Vic sight if you have no interest in Marauders?

That's not what I said...... I said I have no interest in discussing things about the Marauder that have been discussed 346 times already. I am not mechanically minded and know nothing about a camshaft being turned upside down for a 3 horsepower gain or the rearview mirror being ported and polished for a 15 horsepower gain. :)

I meant to say I hang out in non-Marauder-related forums for comaraderie and entertainment.

And since you asked..... the only Crown Victoria sight that has a substancial amount of postings each day is FULL of police impersonators. Ranging in age from 11 years old and up. The "They Thought I Was A Cop" subjects every day made me puke. I prefer not to be there. And.... I asked the then Administrator to ban me one night when they all got mad because I called them first class Police Impersonators. He honored my request

BillyGman
12-24-2003, 01:33 PM
to know where you're coming from.........thanks for explaining.

TripleTransAm
12-24-2003, 01:49 PM
'Tis the season for new beginnings. Sometimes a person has to put the past where it belongs, life can be full of second chances, the outcome of a new beginning depends on what we do with it.

SHERIFF
12-24-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by TripleTransAm
'Tis the season for new beginnings. Sometimes a person has to put the past where it belongs, life can be full of second chances, the outcome of a new beginning depends on what we do with it.


Let me see if I got this right now please..... you're a stong advocate of one going out tonight and getting drunk with some wild woman and trying to spot Santa past by high in the air. Right? :)

DetGeno
12-25-2003, 01:57 AM
We do welcome you with open arms here Sheriff! As you can tell this site has a much more mature/professional crowd than the others. Plus MM cost a lot more to own then the others too! I do like to hear other's legal opinions on different things. I've worked for the court system for over 6yrs now and I am very clear on one thing, even Judges can have different interpretations on a same law.

SHERIFF
12-26-2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by DetGeno
We do welcome you with open arms here Sheriff! As you can tell this site has a much more mature/professional crowd than the others. Plus MM cost a lot more to own then the others too! I do like to hear other's legal opinions on different things. I've worked for the court system for over 6yrs now and I am very clear on one thing, even Judges can have different interpretations on a same law.

Thank You! :)

Oh yes, it's obvious that there's not a bunch of snot-nosed kiddies here like on most other auto forums, Thank God!

And, yes, even judges disagree amongst themselves on the interpetation of a lot of laws, that's why you see a Supreme Court Decision come down with dissenting votes by some judges. What tickles me most though is when judges interpret a law and dismiss a criminal charge that obviously shouldn't have been placed in the first place, the charges being placed by rookies most of the time. I became a deputy sheriff at age 19, and I knew it all as soon as I pinned a badge to my shirt. Or so I thought. :)

jfclancy
12-29-2003, 10:34 AM
Used to happen a Lot with my 96 crown Vic Sport, and sometimes with the MM. Must agree with martyo not a cop and I am over it.
Joe Clancy

dhawke98
12-30-2003, 09:01 AM
On my recent trip to San Jose from Phoenix, most of the drive was at night in the desert. Every car that came up behind me slowed down and stayed put for a while thinking it was a police car. Half the time, they were in the lane next to me such that their lights were in my mirrors. Maybe I should black out the Mercury emblems LOL

SHERIFF
12-30-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by dhawke98
Maybe I should black out the Mercury emblems LOL


Just don't make it look like this please!!! :)

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/843/copmar.jpg

darebren
12-30-2003, 01:53 PM
I can't tell you how many people I've made put on their seat belts when I fly up behind them. It's funny to see the arms growing out of their head to pull the belt down. In fact I just drove up to Michigan this week, and counted at least a dozen in one 4 hour drive. Not to mention all the folks that change lanes into the slow lane as I approach in their rear view mirror.

I think if I ever get pulled over, I might try to talk my way out of a ticket by saying how I think I am helping more people than hurting... either that or say "oh yeah, you should have seen me earlier, i was really flying" when the copper says "son, do you know how fast you were going?"

SHERIFF
12-30-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by darebren
...... say "oh yeah, you should have seen me earlier, i was really flying" when the copper says "son, do you know how fast you were going?"


Gauranteed ticket. :)

Paul T. Casey
12-30-2003, 04:50 PM
Hey, I felt like a cop once. I was about 19 or 20, hanging outside the local bar, She pulled up, got out, and WOW. About 30, blond, built, couldn't help myself, so I told her, "I'd like to feel you." Good thing there was a fight going on, the look she gave me pretty much sobered me up.

TripleTransAm
12-30-2003, 05:01 PM
:lol: Good one, Paul... didn't see that coming.

Skp369
01-07-2004, 06:24 PM
I always feel like a cop. Well, really, I only feel like one the eight hours a day I spend in a big white car with red and blue lights on top. I seem to get similiar reactions (though not as frequent) from people when I drive my Marauder as I do when I'm in my Crown Victoria (oops, oh sorry...Interceppppptttor...ya right). People tend to slow way down in front of me and won't get the _____ out of the way. This is pain any time (work or play). The only time it gets worse and more people get in the way is when you go code three in the day-time.

SHERIFF
01-08-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Skp369
People tend to slow way down in front of me and won't get the _____ out of the way.


Yeah. I know the feeling. It's hard as hell to toss empty beer cans out the window when traffic is lined up behind ya and won't pass! And if ya lay them on the floorboard they leak liquid all over the mats and carpet creating a funky smell later. :D

Skp369
01-08-2004, 06:13 PM
You could do what I have observed for years in the inner-city....cut a hole in the floor board and drop the beer cans, dope, and guns out as you go along. The people behind you will not be able to see where the stuff is coming from and just assume the reason you're swerving is to avoid the junk in the road!!! Just cover the hole with a floor mat and you're all set for any kind of weather. Of course it works best with a rusted out 75 Monte Carlo or an 86 Pontiac GOOLE (6000LE).

Marauderman
01-08-2004, 06:38 PM
Most of you have read my post about getting my S/C from Dennis and the experience driving home---well--there was more funny stuff as well--

We had gotten off the I-26 in Orangeburg to eat--when getting back on , wife behind me,, a couple cars got inbetween while getting back on the I--and wife takes wrong on ramp--her East --me West( correct way)-- so I radio her to go to next exit , cross over and get back on West bound--meanwhile I'll go down the on-ramp and wait for you-- under the bridge overpass--which I do and park with my little parking lights on--waiting--

Well she comes flying by without seeing me till the last second, just then and I say ok I see-ya, and look for clear opening and punch it--BUT THIS TIME IT'S A S/C 'ER THAT'S BEING PUNCH--I forgot-- and WHAM- BOOMB! - i Shoot out under that bridge like a rocket over in the fast lane and all I see is brakes lights --I catch up to wife and said--"looks like we have slowed down half the county with that run"--couldn't stop :lol: after realizing what others must have been thinking....oh well there are times--weather meant to or not......Tom

deputydog
01-08-2004, 08:25 PM
when I go to work in my black 03 mm it really screws with folks of course Iam in my sheriffs uniform. the only thing not factory on my car is a police interciptor plaqe on the ass end just to screw with people.

Marauderman
01-09-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by deputydog
police interciptor plaqe on the ass end just to screw with people.

Wonder if a plaque that said '"Polite Interceptor" would be legal??? Hummmmm....Must go ask my LEO buddy ......

junehhan
01-09-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by marauderman
Wonder if a plaque that said '"Polite Interceptor" would be legal??? Hummmmm....Must go ask my LEO buddy ......


There are a couple 96-99 V8 Taurus SHO's that are running around with Police Interceptor badges on the ass end, and even on the doors. In fact, your dealer should be able to sell you one for $5-10. I guess it depends on where you live, and the laws there, but I personally wouldn't risk it as it's not worth the hassle in case a cop decided to raise issues with it.

MM03MOK
01-09-2004, 11:18 AM
The "PI" badge doesn't say you're a cop. It's a Ford designation for the specifically equiped car, P71.

2004 Ford Police Interceptor Equipment Packages (http://www.crown-na.com/vms/policepp.pdf)

1) P71/720A Standard Police Interceptor (3.27 Axle)
2) P71/730A Standard Police Interceptor (3.55 Axle)
3) P71/750A Police Interceptor with Street Appearance Package (3.27 Axle)
4) P71/770A Police Interceptor with Street Appearance Package (3.55 Axle)

Marauderman
01-09-2004, 12:37 PM
Just the same-- A little change in letters and --woola--"Polite Interceptor""--after all--my MM is not a loud whin when you here it--and when you do--you've been politely intercepted!!! :lol:

jgc61sr2002
01-09-2004, 03:54 PM
DeputyDog - Welcome aboard. This site is the best nice folks and good information.:D :up:

Alan
01-10-2004, 10:41 AM
Same thing happens to me.

I tend to be completely disappointed when leaving my vehicle knowing that I then will have to use one of our PIs. They just don't have the same get-up-and-go or wow-factor to the seat of my pants! :lol:


Originally posted by deputydog
when I go to work in my black 03 mm it really screws with folks of course Iam in my sheriffs uniform. the only thing not factory on my car is a police interciptor plaqe on the ass end just to screw with people.

DetGeno
01-10-2004, 01:04 PM
deputydog-you meanie :up:

SHERIFF
01-10-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by MM03MOK
The "PI" badge doesn't say you're a cop.


Depends on state law, and what judge is sitting when you go to court. Virginia state law says you will not display the word POLICE on a civilian car. Would this include a POLICE INTERCEPTOR emblem? I dunno, the law has never been tested in Virginia yet.....

VIRGINIA LAW

§ 18.2-175. Unlawful wearing of officer's uniform or insignia; unlawful use of vehicle with word "police" shown thereon.

No person, not such an officer as is referred to in § 19.2-78, shall wear any such uniform as is designated pursuant to the provisions of such section or wear an insignia or markings containing the Seal of the Commonwealth or the insignia of any such officer's uniform, nor shall any person not such an officer, or not authorized by such officer, or not authorized by the military police of the armed forces or of the National Guard, or not authorized by the military police of other governmental agencies, use or cause to be used on the public roads or highways of this Commonwealth, any motor vehicle bearing markings with the word "police" shown thereon. However, the prohibition against wearing an insignia or markings containing the Seal of the Commonwealth shall not apply to any certified firefighter or to any certified or licensed emergency medical personnel. Any violation of this section shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor.
(Code 1950, § 18.1-312; 1960, c. 358; 1966, c. 420; 1968, c. 675; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1979, c. 704; 1991, c. 424.)

Skp369
01-11-2004, 06:52 AM
I had an interesting thing happen to me the other day. It appears that someone else was feeling like a cop that day. I was on my way to work driving my old beater car (91 T-bird 5.0) and came up behind a former police Crown Vic Police Interceptor. It was white and that little tag on the back that we have been discussing. I knew it was not a real police car. I have almost 17 years in as a police officer and know what community in my area has what in their fleet. To continue...the light turned green and we both turned on to a four lane road. From experience, I could tell he kid driving the CVPI had it to the floor. So I accelerated at my normal rate and passed him leaving him far behind. The next thing I know, this kid comes flying up my bumper and is hanging out inches off the rear of my car. (yes I was speeding and had a jacket on over my uniform). After he observed that I was not spooked, he pulled up along side of me and tried to stare me down. After some time and no change in my behavior, he accelerated and pulled in front of me so that I could see that little tag again. He never knew who he was messing with or that the person he was messing with was possibly armed. For some people, "feeling like a cop" has a whole different meaning.

SHERIFF
01-11-2004, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Skp369
I had an interesting thing happen to me the other day. It appears that someone else was feeling like a cop that day. I was on my way to work driving my old beater car (91 T-bird 5.0) and came up behind a former police Crown Vic Police Interceptor. It was white and that little tag on the back that we have been discussing. I knew it was not a real police car. I have almost 17 years in as a police officer and know what community in my area has what in their fleet. To continue...the light turned green and we both turned on to a four lane road. From experience, I could tell he kid driving the CVPI had it to the floor. So I accelerated at my normal rate and passed him leaving him far behind. The next thing I know, this kid comes flying up my bumper and is hanging out inches off the rear of my car. (yes I was speeding and had a jacket on over my uniform). After he observed that I was not spooked, he pulled up along side of me and tried to stare me down. After some time and no change in my behavior, he accelerated and pulled in front of me so that I could see that little tag again. He never knew who he was messing with or that the person he was messing with was possibly armed. For some people, "feeling like a cop" has a whole different meaning.


Obviously, he wanted you to think he was pacing your speed. There is a web site that teaches this stuff to the "police impersonators"

There is a kid in my area who does exactly what you described. He was side-tracked a while because he wrecked and demolished his cop lookalike car. But he is back in an old worn out ex-police now doing the same thing. Sooner or later he will mess with the wrong motorist.... a judge's wife, a policeman's wife, a lawyer's wife, etc..... or maybe even an off-duty law enforcement officer of some type.

muslhed
01-24-2004, 09:15 PM
I gotta question for ya, Sheriff....or any other LEO's on this board. Let me describe the setting first. You're out on your daily patrol, and you spot an unmarked black MM, with dark tint, antennas on the trunk lid, pass you doing about 10-15 over the speed limit. How do you honestly decifer if it is either another cop, county, state or government official, or just an ordaniry citizen? Would you pull over another officer if you were uncertain, or save yourself the embarrassment and let him go? Just curious.....

SHERIFF
01-24-2004, 09:50 PM
First off, an intelligent police officer knows all the "police cars" in his immediate area. He knows whether a trooper or deputy sheriff has been issued a new unmarked Marauder or not. He also knows what "unmarked" cars detectives and special units use. Hell, I can for example drive you around and show you crappy looking vans the State Police use for surveillance work, and conversion vans the Drug Task Force seized and presently use.

Secondly, if the car is breaking the law, and is not known to be a real police car, pull him over and check. There's nothing embarassing about that.

Thirdly, and more important of all....... the dark tint in my state would set off alarms with 99% of police rookies and veterans alike. They love to harass people over dark tint. It's like stealing candy from a baby. A free ticket for the monthly quota. Oops, did I say quota? We can't have quota and qualify for federal grants. We have to call them "performance expectations". :)

MarauderMark
01-24-2004, 10:25 PM
I had a situation once.driving back home from baltimore a mark vIII blows buy at about 90 a couple lanes over so i get up on him very quickly to run it . he slows to 65 i get next to him roll down my black windows to show im not a cop and wave .he waves back (pakistan or sumthin like that) and slows even more i laugh and take off and leave him back there..

muslhed
01-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Ok, you're last paragraph makes me wanna puke, but anyway.....
You're obviously not from Texas, because half of the Police cruisers around here have dark tinted windows. That goes for county, state and local coppers alike. In Texas, it is not against the law to have dark tint on the windows of your car. It's only illegal if you exceed the legal limit on the front door windows. Are you from a large city, where being familiar with all your teams cars is easily accessible, or are you from a rural area that has many small towns spread out over the county?
You make me feel like I asked a pretty stupid question Mr. Sheriff, and I don't feel like I did! I am seeing unmarked Marauders used out in the country all the time now around here, and I can't honestly tell the difference between those cars and mine!

Alan
01-25-2004, 02:36 PM
Your behavior is not real smart. How many people did you jeopardize on the road when you pulled this stunt? What did it prove?

If you want to go fast...then by all means...take your car to the track and go as fast and act as stupid as you want. When you put innocent lives at stake because you want to prove how "cool" you are by racing people on the highway...that's where the line gets drawn in the sand.


I had a situation once.driving back home from baltimore a mark vIII blows buy at about 90 a couple lanes over so i get up on him very quickly to run it . he slows to 65 i get next to him roll down my black windows to show im not a cop and wave .he waves back (pakistan or sumthin like that) and slows even more i laugh and take off and leave him back there..

SHERIFF
01-25-2004, 02:58 PM
Ok, you're last paragraph makes me wanna puke, but anyway.....
You're obviously not from Texas, because half of the Police cruisers around here have dark tinted windows.



You didn't ask a stupid question..... That's the trouble with Internet forums. Very often we're comparing apples to oranges in many discussions..... in this case, the varying laws state to state on window tint.

I answered based on my area of residence and my personal opinion. But........ putting tint aside in the conversation totally....... most cops know what are "police cars" and what are not in their immediate area. If a car such as a 2004 Marauder with antennas on the trunk and roof top shows up in Waco, most cops know rather quickly whether it's a real police car or not. Most cops will know beforehand it's ordered or coming, even before the officer gets it.

Skp369
01-25-2004, 06:22 PM
I will have to agree with Sheriff on this one. Most officers know just about everything in their fleet and surrounding community. And any off-duty LEO should know that you do not disrespect an on-duty officer like that and put the on-duty officer in a position where he must take action. So I would pull him over because he probably not an LEO and if he is I want a word with him!

03SILVERSTREAK
01-25-2004, 06:38 PM
I will have to agree with Sheriff on this one. Most officers know just about everything in their fleet and surrounding community. And any off-duty LEO should know that you do not disrespect an on-duty officer like that and put the on-duty officer in a position where he must take action. So I would pull him over because he probably not an LEO and if he is I want a word with him!
Up this way you would first run his plates to see if they come back to a municipality. if it comes back to a private residents address then you pull him over. if it comes back hot,well to the LEOs out there know what to do...

Logan
01-25-2004, 06:45 PM
Feel free to continue this discussion on a LEO forum. THIS is a marauder forum. This conversation's been around entirely way too long.