Pre heater

[Coupe]

I don´t know the correct designation in english, but i´m planning to retrofit my marauder with an INDEPENDENT VEHICLE HEATER, because my original engine heater (canadian model) doesn´t work satisfactory.
Who can recommend me a good pre heater for my Marauder?

[fastblackmerc]

Never had to use one but I found theses....

Some heat the oil, some heat the coolant.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/tank-type-engine-heaters/p2000837.jcwx?filterid=c1648j1

http://www.wolverineheater.com/

http://www.engineheaters.com/cgibin/store/agora.cgi

This one warms the entire engine.

http://www.heaterssensorsandcontrols. com/catalog/eh0405-p-50.html?gclid=COjIt-COiqYCFYde7AodXBOqow

[SC Cheesehead]

Never had to use one but I found theses....

Some heat the oil, some heat the coolant.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/tank-type-engine-heaters/p2000837.jcwx?filterid=c1648j1

http://www.wolverineheater.com/

http://www.engineheaters.com/cgibin/store/agora.cgi

This one warms the entire engine.

http://www.heaterssensorsandcontrols. com/catalog/eh0405-p-50.html?gclid=COjIt-COiqYCFYde7AodXBOqow

http://www.jcwhitney.com/tank-type-engine-heaters/p2000837.jcwx?filterid=c1648j1

^^^^^^^^^ I had one of these on my cars for years when I was up in Wisconsin, worked pretty well, IIRC.

[1stMerc]

Which one is considered beter or prefered. Oil or antifeeze warmer?

[SC Cheesehead]

Which one is considered beter or prefered. Oil or antifeeze warmer?

I'd think for really cold temps that the oil heater would be preferred, but the anitfreezer warmer worked pretty well for the temps we had in WI.

[Coupe]

thank you, but i´m looking for an other system! i don´t know the english word, in germany we call it STANDHEIZUNG.
it is a independent system. you can start it a half hour, bevor you entry your car and the whole car has operating temperature. (water and oil)

[Michael]

Hello Coupe,

The heater you are looking for is not common in America. The engish translation is parking heater. America uses a block heater that warms the engine coolent by a seperate tank heater or a heating element that fits into the engine block. You then have to plug it in to a AC outlet with a 24 hour timmer to get it to heat when you want.

The standheizung is more complex. It is similar to what some buses in america have and many vehicles in Germany. The unit is a self contained heater that uses the vehicles fuel to preheat the engine coolent and circulates it, it also turns on your cars heater controls and defrosts the windows, this is all done with the vehicle turned off. It is expensive and I would assume hard to retrofit. Maybe the Canadian marauders have this feature, but I don't know. This heater would be nice in northern climates in the US.

[Bigdogjim]

One that heats both oil and antifrezze is best. Our big motorcoaches have and they are great in 0* weather the coach starts like it's 70* outside:up:

[Coupe]

thank you, for your information. my canadian model has the block heater, but i´m afraid that doesn´t work. must find out, how to test it!

[Coupe]

okay, i´m ready to retrofit an american system, maybe the wolverine sytem. but what is the best?

[EMAS]

The ones Ford installs from the factory aren't really designed to heat up the engine from a really cold state as much as keep it warm, they are just not that high of wattage. To see if yours is working it is a simple as plugging the car in after you have had it up to running temp and see if the engine is still warm the following morning. Even if it is working I'd think about replacing it, the bar on the factory Ford heaters tend to crack with age. I've seen one fall completely out of the engine while running down the road and the engine ended up being destroyed, I've also seen them start leaking pretty seriously with out any warning and the vehicle overheated.

If you want the car interior warmed up the tank style heater that circulates the coolant and a remote starter system to turn the car on a few minutes before you are ready to leave is the way to go. As long as you leave the heater control in Automatic the car should be nice and warm inside in 10-15 minutes.

How cold is it expected to get in your area? Switching to a 0-20 or 0-30 oil is recommended if the temps will be below 0 Fahrenheit. If you are going to see temps to -20 F or so then an engine oil heater is a good idea. There are many different ones. The least effective is the unit that replaces the dipstick, there are also magnetic units that you place on the pan and others that are essentially a sheet of rubber with a heating element embedded in it that you glue on the bottom of the pan, like in the second link above.

I've got a parts truck for my other automotive obsession that came from Alaska. It was set up with the circulating style heater (like in the first link), an oil heater glued to the bottom of the pan (like in the second link), and a heater pad sitting under the battery.

No matter what the second link says, an oil heater will not warm the entire engine, but it will reduce start up wear on your engine. The coolant heaters will give you a car that gives you heat sooner but it won't really do much for reducing the start up wear on the engine. So having both is best for your car and you.

[99SVT]

The stock block heater works fine for Canadian winters, I've started mine in temps below -40*. It might be switching from 240V to 120V that limits it's effectiveness.

You could take a look at these manufacturers that make products that work with European power supplies.
These guys are from Finland so it'll probably cost a lot less to ship, there's just nothing specific to our cars, so you'll have to make it work somehow or ask them directly. They have coolant and interior heaters, it may be what you're looking for.
http://wup.defa.com/en/
This company is based in Belgium, I've used their fuel heaters in military applications. Again, they don't have specific kits, but you might want something with a circulation pump, that way it'll heat as much of the engine as possible.
http://www.carlor.com/joomla/index.php/en/engine-coolant-heater

[RoyLPita]

I have not heard of these actually failing. I would check the circuitry and see f there is a problem there.

[Coupe]

I have sine friday a pre heater from WEBASTO! it is very, very awesome!!!!