DIY P-1SC Kit Info needed

[cougar9150]

I just recently bought a P-1SC Head unit off of Marauderjack :beer:. I plan on building my own kit basically along the lines of the FIT kit. Just looking for advice and information any FIT owners can share on what they have changed or upgraded over the years.

Basically what I want is to do the initial install on my stock motor and shoot for 450-500rwhp (stock rotating assembly safe power range). Later on I want to shoot for the 600rwhp range once I get a built motor. I'm sure there will be some items that I'll have to change out later on when I up the boost but would prefer to buy most things once if possible.

I'm trying to do a this as a budget build and spend only $2.5-3k in parts for the first setup. I'll of course do the install myself, and have it towed to my local tuner for the Dyno session.

Quick rundown of what is needed:


PC-3FCBB-003Procharger Mach1/Cobra Bracket 2001-2004 http://www.superchargersonline.com/product_detail.asp?PartNumber= PC-3FCBB-003
single GT40 Pump w/20A BAP (will this be good for higher HP #s?)
Fuel Filter upgrade
Injectors (guessing 48lb for 450-500rwhp, 60s when I go higher)
Blow thru MAF- Looking at the Abaco DBX85 but want to also know what others have used or recommend
Universal Air-Air IC- What do y'all think of this one? http://www.superchargersonline.com/product_detail.asp?PartNumber= ICE-IC30-F
(http://www.superchargersonline.com/product_detail.asp?PartNumber= ICE-IC30-F)
Pipes (custom setup but what size is recommended. Thinking 2.5 or 3" :help:)
Blow Off Valve (Vortech Mondo is what I was looking at) any other recommendations?
Longer Belt (what do you guys use, I like Gates just need P/N)
Different Belt Tensioner or cut the ear of stock unit? (I remember some issues with the Ear hitting the SC Mounting bracket or something. Maybe only an issue on 04 Mach 1s)

I'm sure I have overlooked a couple of items but am building my material list and pricing out various items before I really start flinging the credit card around. I plan on taking my time and shopping around to see what can be had through Ebay and various forums used or on the cheap. Nothing wrong with a used MAF, injectors, or BOV if they are in decent shape.

Any pics y'all can provide of the pipes and their routing would be a tremendous help. :bows:

Please also let me know what people have changed or improved on from the stock FIT or other Centri kits.
Thanks ahead for any and all help you guys give. :beer:

[Pat]

DR has a thread that covered aspects of the FIT installation. It's on his forum, page 5, "Pro Charger up grades part 1".

This thread may have info useful to your project.

Cheers,

[Pops]

PM Marauder TJA as he has this kit on his car. It only runs low 10s!

[blazen71]

Get the rest of your parts from Reinhart.

[RR|Suki]

This is a better MAF in my mind: http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=234&parent=29

[LANDY]

Phil,
The gt40 and a bap is good till low 500rwhp on our cars. When you get to the 600rwhp mark you may want to consider return style fuel system, or just go return style once and you will be set.
I have the fuel filter upgrade in my car I will show it to you when we get together next month.
The I/C is the same as DR's kit
On the belt I also prefer gates and as you know is all according to the pulley you want to run.
I like the oem tensioner better, I have an extra key at home that makes it easier to get to it with just a 1/2" rachet.
On the injectors I would go strait for the 60#'s like that you only spend your coin once.
Then drive it like you stole it.:burnout:

[cougar9150]

DR has a thread that covered aspects of the FIT installation. It's on his forum, page 5, "Pro Charger up grades part 1".

This thread may have info useful to your project.

Cheers,

Excellent thread with a few good links also. Also found that hitting the FIT archives has given me a wealth of info. Thanks.


PM Marauder TJA as he has this kit on his car. It only runs low 10s!

Planned on it along with a couple of the other FIT club members.


Get the rest of your parts from Reinhart.

Kind of defeats the whole DIY part of it. I want to make this out of basic parts from various sources that I can get the best deals on like the Eaton swap guys.

I would have just bought a Novi kit if I was going to do that but I want a Phil's custom home made SC setup. That way I can point under my hood and say I built it from scratch.


This is a better MAF in my mind: http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=234&parent=29

Thanks RR, is this what your running?


Phil,
The gt40 and a bap is good till low 500rwhp on our cars. When you get to the 600rwhp mark you may want to consider return style fuel system, or just go return style once and you will be set.
I have the fuel filter upgrade in my car I will show it to you when we get together next month.
The I/C is the same as DR's kit
On the belt I also prefer gates and as you know is all according to the pulley you want to run.
I like the oem tensioner better, I have an extra key at home that makes it easier to get to it with just a 1/2" rachet.
On the injectors I would go strait for the 60#'s like that you only spend your coin once.
Then drive it like you stole it.:burnout:

Straight to 60s it is. Dual GT pumps wouldn't work I take it if it's better to go return style on the fuel system. Sounds expensive, will probably be a back side project I budget with a new motor.

Does it look like there is room for a larger IC with that one installed? Looks like I'll be all over your car next time we hook up.

[RR|Suki]

Nah, I run a 100mm PMAS infinity draw through, but I had to install it so low in the bumper that it has been keeping me from driving on real cold days because I don't want moisture forming ice and such inside it. So I wanna switch to that blow through in the spring when I have some extra cash

[cougar9150]

Nah, I run a 100mm PMAS infinity draw through, but I had to install it so low in the bumper that it has been keeping me from driving on real cold days because I don't want moisture forming ice and such inside it. So I wanna switch to that blow through in the spring when I have some extra cash

Waiting to hear back from my tuner on his preference on Blow thru vs. Draw thru MAFs since he'll be tuning the car. I may end up taking the draw thru route as there seems to be cheaper options available especially used since I can just use a standard Lightning MAF. They are a dime a dozen on various stang sites.

Seems like I can also do the bypass valve setup fairly cheaper than the blow off valve and since I'll be limiting boost until I can afford a engine I may cheap out for now and pick up the stuff from someone else converting to blow thru.

Why is it so low in your bumper? Do you have some thing different than the standard style inlet pipe I've seen on most Centrifugal systems? Most I have seen come across the front of the engine and the filter or an air box is mounted in the factory location. Be interested in seeing your setup if it is a little different from the norm.

[Seneca]

go for the 60# injectors my tuner ran out of room on my 39's I have 60's and twin gt40 pumps and stage 2 FPDM works great with room to grow. if you would like pictures pm me an email and i'd be happy to send some your way. Also. I would consider DR's pipes and innercooler setup. it's really clean. I just cleaned mine up over the past few weeks relocated the IC and all the plumbing. turned out really nice. going to blow thru maf. next.

[RR|Suki]

Waiting to hear back from my tuner on his preference on Blow thru vs. Draw thru MAFs since he'll be tuning the car. I may end up taking the draw thru route as there seems to be cheaper options available especially used since I can just use a standard Lightning MAF. They are a dime a dozen on various stang sites.

Seems like I can also do the bypass valve setup fairly cheaper than the blow off valve and since I'll be limiting boost until I can afford a engine I may cheap out for now and pick up the stuff from someone else converting to blow thru.

Why is it so low in your bumper? Do you have some thing different than the standard style inlet pipe I've seen on most Centrifugal systems? Most I have seen come across the front of the engine and the filter or an air box is mounted in the factory location. Be interested in seeing your setup if it is a little different from the norm.

Yeah my setup is very different, It would prob be impossible for me to run my pipe over the front of the engine bay for a couple reasons. The Novi 2000 is physically larger than other head units and so where the intake enters it actually touches the radiator as it is so running my pipe across the front would kill more of my already limited fan space. Second thing is that the pipe for the size MAF I run is 4", so space would be an issue in general.

My intake tube goes in the opposite direction since I have space there with the battery in the trunk. When I had a Pro-M MAF it sat right where the battery used to be, but the infinity is so much bigger that it was impossible to make it fit there, so I had to put it down in the bumper.

looked on my computer and I have 0 pics of it, I'm not much of a shutter bug. If I remember tomorrow I'll take a couple.

[MarauderTJA]

Here is a picture for you of my motor with a D1SC. Good luck with your project. Sounds like you are on the right track. And yes, go 60# injectors to start. It will save you money in the long run. Lots of power, plan on spending lots of $$$$. Kinda runs hand in hand.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/MarauderTJA/ForgedEngine.jpg

[FordNut]

What I would do is get the pipes and intercooler from DR as well as the blow-thru late model MAF setup on the inlet elbow instead of using a draw-thru. Then you can shop around and get your couplings and clamps on your own. Go ahead and use the 60 lb injectors. I used to have a setup similar to this on my car with a D1SC and it made 660 rwhp.

[LANDY]

What I would do is get the pipes and intercooler from DR as well as the blow-thru late model MAF setup on the inlet elbow instead of using a draw-thru. Then you can shop around and get your couplings and clamps on your own. Go ahead and use the 60 lb injectors. I used to have a setup similar to this on my car with a D1SC and it made 660 rwhp.Brian, was that power on just boost? What was your CR at the time?

[FordNut]

It was on the 5.3 bb/s, 9.5:1, I believe it was 16 psi. On a stock block the setup made 500 psi on 12 psi with an smaller crank pulley, but windowed the block.

My car has never had spray installed, nor do I intend to add it.

[justbob]

It was on the 5.3 bb/s, 9.5:1, I believe it was 16 psi. On a stock block the setup made 500 psi on 12 psi with an smaller crank pulley, but windowed the block.

My car has never had spray installed, nor do I intend to add it.
WOW!.......1" pulley?:eek:.:D

J/K That is why I am keeping my numbers right where there at...

[LANDY]

It was on the 5.3 bb/s, 9.5:1, I believe it was 16 psi. On a stock block the setup made 500 psi on 12 psi with an smaller crank pulley, but windowed the block.

My car has never had spray installed, nor do I intend to add it. very stout setup, big bore power.

[cougar9150]

go for the 60# injectors my tuner ran out of room on my 39's I have 60's and twin gt40 pumps and stage 2 FPDM works great with room to grow. if you would like pictures pm me an email and i'd be happy to send some your way. Also. I would consider DR's pipes and innercooler setup. it's really clean. I just cleaned mine up over the past few weeks relocated the IC and all the plumbing. turned out really nice. going to blow thru maf. next.

Excellent, excellent (in my best Mr Burn impression). Now with the modified FPDM I am assuming that I don't need a BAP. I'll shoot you a PM later, Thanks. :up:

I do like the way DR's pipe route and agree it is probably the cleanest setup I see available. I have basic unlimited after hours access to a state of the art machine shop and plan on working with a couple guys there on the pipes, air box and maybe coolant and PS fluids reservoirs. I can play a little but haven't been trained on anything and need the guys to help for now. Hoping to learn how to operate the Hass CNC one day. I also may bring my IC to Intake pipe up through where the suspension compressor currently sits (going to the trunk also) and not back up the front of the engine bay. This way I can mount the BOV on the up straight section, then an angle section, and the MAF a few inches after the angle.




My intake tube goes in the opposite direction since I have space there with the battery in the trunk. When I had a Pro-M MAF it sat right where the battery used to be, but the infinity is so much bigger that it was impossible to make it fit there, so I had to put it down in the bumper.

Since the overwhelming majority say go w/the blow thru I'll be taking that route instead of trying to cheap out. I plan on moving my battery to the trunk and will be using the battery tray for an air box so I'm definitely interested in seeing

[cougar9150]

Here is a picture for you of my motor with a D1SC. Good luck with your project. Sounds like you are on the right track. And yes, go 60# injectors to start. It will save you money in the long run. Lots of power, plan on spending lots of $$$$. Kinda runs hand in hand.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/MarauderTJA/ForgedEngine.jpg

Thank you sir. Plan on taking it easy at first on the stock motor then going for the crazy power later on. The finance Nazi or my wife as I like to call her makes me take it slow or we would be living in one fast Marauder. The part purchasing will probably take me most of the year. I'm hoping to have it all installed on the stock engine and tuned by the next SSHS in November.

Looks like I'll need to drag Dave down to one of the tower shop meets and take a look at all of the southern Florida PC cars.

[John Nero]

Thank you sir. Plan on taking it easy at first on the stock motor then going for the crazy power later on. The finance Nazi or my wife as I like to call her makes me take it slow or we would be living in one fast Marauder. The part purchasing will probably take me most of the year. I'm hoping to have it all installed on the stock engine and tuned by the next SSHS in November.

Looks like I'll need to drag Dave down to one of the tower shop meets and take a look at all of the southern Florida PC cars.

come on down - if you and dave decide to you can spend the night at my house - i live in boca raton

[MarauderTJA]

Take your time with the car and project. I took a year with the P1SC when I first bought the car off the showroom floor and part by part kept adding and tuning over 4 years. At the end of the road with mods and I fully enjoy every minute I drive her. Have to have a boost fix every so often:burnout:. In fact, tomorrow she will be out and heading to the local cruise night with a couple of friends:beer:.

[1stMerc]

Did this ever get done?

[blazen71]

Pretty sure he's still collecting parts ;)

[cougar9150]

Taking it slow and steady. Picking up odds and ends as cash becomes available. I'm about 40% done with gathering parts.

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[John Nero]

are you missing parts for the blower setup - i have extras

[cougar9150]

are you missing parts for the blower setup - i have extras

I have the head unit, bracket, an idler setup I got from blazen71, just bought a couple pipes and couplers from him today (thanks blazen71), 60lb injectors, throttle body elbow w/the flange for a blow thru maf, and am picking up a AEM wide band and boost controller from a buddy soon.

Still need a few more sections of pipe and couplers,a blow of valve and wastegate, a pulley, maf sensor, intercooler, fuel pump, and the parts to mod my fpdm. I'm sure I'm missing some other odds and ends but have a spreadsheet with all the parts I need listed.

Not sure what I'm doing with the fan yet but thinking about making a custom shroud and mounting 2 slimline fans. For the inlet side of the SC I'm planning on buying the elbow from Procharger and copying the inlet pipe from F.I.T.

Was going to pick up the pulley and a couple other pieces from ProCharger this month but one of my cats started rattling after meeting a speed bump so I had to get em replaced.

Let me know what you got and we can hook up at the picnic.

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[LANDY]

Phil call me tomorrow. I lost all my contacts on my phone.

[Embassy]

Still need a few more sections of pipe and couplers,a blow of valve and wastegate, a pulley, maf sensor, intercooler, fuel pump, and the parts to mod my fpdm. I'm sure I'm missing some other odds and ends but have a spreadsheet with all the parts I need listed.

If you need a 3.80 pulley let me know. I've got one for $50.

Be sure to post pics once you do the install.

[cougar9150]

Got to do the math first but I'll probably end up with the 3.4 or 3.5 pulley depending on how much boost I want the wastegate to bleed off.

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[blazen71]

Got to do the math first but I'll probably end up with the 3.4 or 3.5 pulley depending on how much boost I want the wastegate to bleed off.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using TapatalkWas going to ask about the wastegate, but you just answered it :beer:.