Inspection Time

[mtenderenda]

Well that time of the year and month has come where I had to take the car in and get it inspected. The car has been performing great with the supercharger from Trilogy. Everything passed, but when the ODB SYSTEM test came up, the results are as follows and the inspection results as a FAIL:
Engine Misfire= UNSUPPORTED;
Fuel System= READY;
Comprehensive Component= READY;
Catalytic Converters= UNSUPPORTED;
Heated Catalytic Converters= UNSUPPORTED;
Evaporated System= UNSUPPORTED;
Secondary Air injection= UNSUPPORTED;
A/C Refrigerant= UNSUPPORTED;
Oxygen Sensors = UNSUPPORTED;
Oxygen Sensors - Heaters= UNSUPPORTED
EGR Systems= UNSUPPORTED

Can anyone explain why it came up like this? Some of you guys had to go thru the same scenario with the Trilogy supercharger.

[Blackened300a]

You would have to contact who did your tune to turn the sensors on.

[mtenderenda]

Gotcha. Jerry Barnes! where are you? lol

[Bradley G]

PM sent , hope you get it squared away!
Gotcha. Jerry Barnes! where are you? lol

[mtenderenda]

Thanks Brad :) I always like to get a second opinon. I called Jerry and left him a message. Ill try the number you just gave me.
As for the car, its freakn unbelieve. I have nothing to complain bout, after putting in the S/C, everyone has given me great compliments.
I took one of the guys for a ride around the block, after our pickup hockey game. He was suprised as to how the car performs.

[Bradley G]

No sweat, you are in good hands.
I was very happy with the T- kit in it's stock form, a couple months ago I had it dialed in , it is truly a different car again!
Thanks Brad :) I always like to get a second opinon. I called Jerry and left him a message. Ill try the number you just gave me.
As for the car, its freakn unbelieve. I have nothing to complain bout, after putting in the S/C, everyone has given me great compliments.
I took one of the guys for a ride around the block, after our pickup hockey game. He was suprised as to how the car performs.

[mtenderenda]

I see your HP. Is it based only on the supercharger, or do you have anything else on your motor? Aftermarket Filter? different throttle body?

[Bradley G]

I had to upgrade my fuel pump, relocate the IAT II sensor, change the S/C pulley & belt, and make the fuel pressure sensitive to boost level.
Lightning 90 mm maf, maf adapter, & open element filter, Ex cal III
All that and two days of dyno tuning and fine tuning the drivability.
I won't mislead, it was alot of work and was at least a third the price of the kit.
It is actually frightining how fast the car responds now.

[wickedmerc]

Well that time of the year and month has come where I had to take the car in and get it inspected. The car has been performing great with the supercharger from Trilogy. Everything passed, but when the ODB SYSTEM test came up, the results are as follows and the inspection results as a FAIL:
Engine Misfire= UNSUPPORTED;
Fuel System= READY;
Comprehensive Component= READY;
Catalytic Converters= UNSUPPORTED;
Heated Catalytic Converters= UNSUPPORTED;
Evaporated System= UNSUPPORTED;
Secondary Air injection= UNSUPPORTED;
A/C Refrigerant= UNSUPPORTED;
Oxygen Sensors = UNSUPPORTED;
Oxygen Sensors - Heaters= UNSUPPORTED
EGR Systems= UNSUPPORTED

Can anyone explain why it came up like this? Some of you guys had to go thru the same scenario with the Trilogy supercharger.

My 03 just failed NJ inspection yesterday with the exact same results as above. I left my SCT tune on the car (by accident :o) and my inspection guys were all confused.
Were you able to clear this up yet? Was it the tune? Boy I hope so. This is my 1st state inspection since I got the car. I hope it's not an ominous sign. An update would be appreciated, thanks.

[mtenderenda]

Update with regards to the car inspection, well I got the tune back from Trilogy. I put in the new tune into the car. Took the car back and it FAILED! again. The same result, UNSUPPORTED. I decided to put the stock tune back in. Now the car is throwing Check Engine lights. Car is running lean. I tried to change the spark plugs to the stock plugs, I got the same results. It is getting annoying. What the hell do I have to do to get thru inspection? :shake:

[burt ragio]

It seens strange you got the same results on a corrected tune sent via Jerry. If you got the same results on the second inspection the tune Jerry sent you may not have been down loaded as you thought. I would try to download it again. After you have done that I would then hook up a scan tool to check results as required at inspection. Should you then find same call Jerry he will take care of the problem.

[mtenderenda]

Okay, and do I have to drive the car for a certain amount of miles before I take it back to DMV?

[FordNut]

Yes. I would try to drive it a few days in various types of driving conditions.

[BUCKWHEAT]

I fight this every two years & have learned:
1. Find a local hands-on tuner smart enough to read the codes before you ever go near the inspection station.
2. The tuner will need your SCT hand held ID'd to your car so he can put in his emissions-qualifying tune.
3. With emissions tune, the car will run like crap, so take it easy.
4. Run through some hours of varying driving (take it to work, etc) and don't let gas go below 1/4 or above 3/4 while doing it.
5. Here in MO, my tuner can then recheck the computer using the software hooked to the state & you are good to go.

It's not Jerry's fault. The computer emissions rules for 'non-attainment' areas came about long after he put the Trilogy S/C together.

[fastblackmerc]

Okay, and do I have to drive the car for a certain amount of miles before I take it back to DMV?

Yes, most state inspections require a certain amount of "drive" time after the last code(s) are cleared. For instance, North Carolina looks for at least 100 miles after the last code(s) were cleared

[1stMerc]

I fight this every two years & have learned:
1. Find a local hands-on tuner smart enough to read the codes before you ever go near the inspection station.
2. The tuner will need your SCT hand held ID'd to your car so he can put in his emissions-qualifying tune.
3. With emissions tune, the car will run like crap, so take it easy.
4. Run through some hours of varying driving (take it to work, etc) and don't let gas go below 1/4 or above 3/4 while doing it.
5. Here in MO, my tuner can then recheck the computer using the software hooked to the state & you are good to go.

It's not Jerry's fault. The computer emissions rules for 'non-attainment' areas came about long after he put the Trilogy S/C together.

What Buckwheat said. Don't know how long you waited after getting the revised Jerry tune in the car, to take it back, but the car has to go thru this

http://www.obdii.com/drivecycleford.html

before some of the sensors run thru their checks to turn on/off the diagnostics checks. I went thru it 4 years ago and i'm na with just a tune.

Takes a little time and patience. Didn't know it at the time, but here we have a 30 day extension after the final date, so check your state so you don't do anything drastic. "ask me how i know"

Good luck

[RF Overlord]

mtenderenda, many scan tools have the ability to read the status of the I/M Readiness Monitors. The Actron 9180 I have will do that and it's saved me more than once from going to get an inspection when the car wasn't ready. It also has a real-time drive cycle monitor so you will know exactly when everything resets.

[mtenderenda]

Just got back from taking the car to get a new tune. It was put on a dyno, and we found out that the car was running lean. The vacuum setup that was shown in the install instructions for the supercharger setup was wrong. We ran another hose to where the boost guauge is connected. He recommends that a aftermarket fuel pump is installed because it is still running lean at WOT...The car right now has bout 463HP at the motor and 365HP at the rear wheels...Hopefully the tune will help me pass inspection, crossing my fingers

[1stMerc]

Make sure you drive it in all conditions before you take it in.

[PonyUP]

I had a similar problem with mine, but I never changed the tune. I drove it at a wide variety of speeds for about 40 miles and drove straight to emissions, with the tune on. Passed like a champ

[Command Car]

Hey Mtenderenda,

I am in NJ and am having the same problem with my Trilogy MM as you. I took my marauder to Bob Ida's dyno shop and he burned a new chip that turned on all the OBD-11 Monitors. Unfortunately, heated cats, AC refrigerant, and secondary Air seem to still be unsuported. Someone mentioned that the factory never installed secondary those monitors. Since NJ will pass a '01 or later car with only 1 monitor in the not ready state, how can any Marauder pass NJ inspection. Did you pass in your last attempt? Let's combine forces and figure this out. Please send me a PM.

[RF Overlord]

Since NJ will pass a '01 or later car with only 1 monitor in the not ready state, how can any Marauder pass NJ inspection. Not all cars support all monitors, and the MM doesn't support the 3 mentioned in the post above, but there's a big difference between "not ready" and "unsupported". Most state emission inspection systems will pass with one monitor "not ready", but they don't count "unsupported" unless ALL of the monitors return that state.

[mtenderenda]

I have a scanner that tells me how the sensors are set to...I am waiting on two of the senors to be set to ready...After i get past this hurdle..I am going to upgrade my fuel pump to a GT pump. The OEM one can't handle the added HP to deliver more fuel at WOT.

[CRUZTAKER]

Can anyone explain why it came up like this? Some of you guys had to go thru the same scenario with the Trilogy supercharger.

Your tuner (company/personnel) should have turned all of that stuff off forever before they handed you your keys.

It's a courtesy thing.;)
Zack did my tune...that explains it for sure.

We test via obd2 port here in NE Ohio as well.
Never had an issue...even with a chip installed.

[Command Car]

I have a booster pump in the trunk and a pressure adjustment knob under the dash for tuning pressure. My tuner said I have no problem at WOT. What two sensors are you waiting for? Thanks

[Command Car]

Actually, It is a Boost-A-Pump and what it does is increase the voltage to the factory fuel pump. The system is tuneable and works well.

I am not sure if this is better, the same, or worse than installing the GT fuel pump. But, according to my tuner, it works very well on my SC marauder.

[mtenderenda]

I'm happy to report that I passed Inspection Saturday...I drove the car around for 15 minutes to warm it up, before going to DMV...The car passed with the revised tune, all the sensors was turned on..The tune that came with the trilogy kit was the problem...

[fastblackmerc]

I'm happy to report that I passed Inspection Saturday...I drove the car around for 15 minutes to warm it up, before going to DMV...The car passed with the revised tune, all the sensors was turned on..The tune that came with the trilogy kit was the problem...

I'd contact Jerry and see what he says.

[mtenderenda]

What you think he would say, umm ummm ummm? lol...
I'm passed it, I want to move on...
Not happy that I had to go thru that..

[mtenderenda]

Oh, during the dyno tune, the tech found a problem with how the sensor that sits on the fuel rail was setup..What should of been done, was to use the vaccum that the supercharger produces thru the boost guage line...He says that the car runs lean at WOT...All the mustangs / Cobras that he has seen are setup this way...he was kind of suprised to see it setup this way...Told him that the instructions in the S/C said to do that.
After changing the vaccum setup...The car got an addtional 10 hp.

[RF Overlord]

There are at least 200 Trilogy cars that are running fine with the stock setup. Lidio knew what he was doing when he developed the stock tune for Trilogy. I'm not saying your guy's way is wrong, but there are very few tuners who know as much about Trilogy Marauders as Lidio.

[Bradley G]

Keep in mind how long ago the first tune was written.
The Emmission laws have changed , I'm guessing they are getting stricter.
Trilogy posted up some info regarding this on MCM.


There are at least 200 Trilogy cars that are running fine with the stock setup. Lidio knew what he was doing when he developed the stock tune for Trilogy. I'm not saying your guy's way is wrong, but there are very few tuners who know as much about Trilogy Marauders as Lidio.

[justbob]

Oh, during the dyno tune, the tech found a problem with how the sensor that sits on the fuel rail was setup..What should of been done, was to use the vaccum that the supercharger produces thru the boost guage line...He says that the car runs lean at WOT...All the mustangs / Cobras that he has seen are setup this way...he was kind of suprised to see it setup this way...Told him that the instructions in the S/C said to do that.
After changing the vaccum setup...The car got an addtional 10 hp.
You are referring to boost sensitive vacuum. This, as well as the IAT2 mod has been discussed in great lengths for years.