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Marauder108
02-06-2011, 09:12 PM
Are there any tires I can put on my car that wont mess up my speedometer beside the stock bf goodrichs?

MOTOWN
02-06-2011, 09:17 PM
theres plenty look in the tire, and wheel section, oh and welcome bud!

SC Cheesehead
02-07-2011, 05:29 AM
Are there any tires I can put on my car that wont mess up my speedometer beside the stock bf goodrichs?

Speedo is an electronic function, can be corrected via tuner if there is a substantial difference in tire diameter from stock.

OEM rear tires are virtually non-existent, and as they suck anyway, good riddance.

255/55/18 on the rear are slightly taller then OEM, but are what many guys are running here.

Nitto, Falken, Hankook, Goodyear all make good replacements, I'm running General Grabber UHPs and have had good performance out of them.

gohogs
02-07-2011, 09:56 AM
I'm running Nitto 420s (255/55/18) and according to GPS, 60 on the speedometer is really 60.

DOOM
02-07-2011, 10:34 AM
I don't have good luck with tires. :depress: :alone:

RF Overlord
02-07-2011, 10:43 AM
Yeah, but the rubber companies love ya, Doomie!

Marauder108, do a little research on the major tire companies' web sites. They all have complete specs including diameter. Just maintain the rear diameter approx 5% more than the fronts and you'll be fine.

rayjay
02-07-2011, 04:51 PM
I'm running Nitto 420s (255/55/18) and according to GPS, 60 on the speedometer is really 60.
+1 and verified by RADAR.

JOEMERC
02-07-2011, 05:40 PM
Stock rears are only good for the stiff side walls for there handling .but they wear bad in the center tread.

jstevens
02-07-2011, 06:05 PM
okay, so what tire has the best wear for burnouts?

Bluerauder
02-07-2011, 07:30 PM
OEM rear tires are virtually non-existent, and as they suck anyway, good riddance.

I didn't have any problem getting 245/55/18 BFG OEM rears about 2 months ago. Maybe we have all of them up here in Virginia. ;)

Only got 15K out of the 255/55/18 GoodYear F1 Eagles DS-G3s and thought that they were a little squirrely in the rain. They seemed to break loose in the rear much more often than the OEMs. Guess that I am in the minority that really has no complaints with the OEM tires as far as grip. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that getting more than 21K-25K out of ANY set of rears may be "A Bridge Too Far".

I may switch to Nittos on the next set .... Maybe :dunno:

Mr. Man
02-07-2011, 07:41 PM
okay, so what tire has the best wear for burnouts?:burnout:
Doomie just wet himself:D

LANDY
02-07-2011, 08:26 PM
i have been runing my toyo proxes s/t for 23k miles. i have abused the crap out of them. ten 1320 passes, countless first thru third burnouts and the just go to the wear bars. i guess im doing something right with my oversized tire on an 8" rim.

DOOM
02-07-2011, 08:41 PM
okay, so what tire has the best wear for burnouts?

I love my goodyears.

How long and how often do you plan on doing burnouts? :burnout:

CBT
02-08-2011, 04:27 AM
Kumho's, best set so far.

fastblackmerc
02-08-2011, 04:35 AM
There are plenty of tires available, you just have to do some research. If you have a Marauder with traction control the rear tire have to be at least 3% larger diameter than the fronts or your traction control will complain. you can not turn off the traction control with a tuner. If you have a Marauder with out traction control you can run the same size at all 4 corners. As stated you can get a tune to correct a difference in the speedo.

Kodimar
02-11-2011, 02:44 PM
There are plenty of tires available, you just have to do some research. If you have a Marauder with traction control the rear tire have to be at least 3% larger diameter than the fronts or your traction control will complain. you can not turn off the traction control with a tuner. If you have a Marauder with out traction control you can run the same size at all 4 corners. As stated you can get a tune to correct a difference in the speedo.

On MM's with traction control does it only have to be 3% larger? I thought I read some where it has to 3% larger but no more than 5% or is that not the case?

SC Cheesehead
02-11-2011, 09:15 PM
On MM's with traction control does it only have to be 3% larger? I thought I read some where it has to 3% larger but no more than 5% or is that not the case?

Yeah, need to stay in that range.

Bluerauder
02-11-2011, 09:36 PM
On MM's with traction control does it only have to be 3% larger? I thought I read some where it has to 3% larger but no more than 5% or is that not the case?

I think that the range is more like 2.0% to 6.0%. It has been quite a while since I saw the numbers. Will try to dig up that thread .... probably back in 2004 ot 2005. Might take some time to find it though. Found it back a couple years >>>>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=699842#post69 9842


I don't think that combination will work. Rear diameter will be ~ 84.93" and fronts will be ~ 78.81". Ratio Rear/Front will be 7.8% and exceeds the OEM ratio of 5%. That's a 60% difference and will probably be detected by the computer. I say it would be marginal (maybe-maybe not -- but I think it will be a NOT) as to any effect on Traction Control and ABS.

From what I have seen in Mike's/Breadfan's tire matrix, the acceptable R/F ratio must be between 2% and 6% to avoid T/C issues (assuming you have traction control).

Here's a link to Mike/Breadfan's Tire Thread. It contains a link to his "Tire Matrix" >>>> http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26999

The original info goes back to 2006. Unfortunately, all of Mike's tables have been replaced with Red X's. :(

SC Cheesehead
02-12-2011, 07:24 AM
I think that the range is more like 2.5% to 6.0%. It has been quite a while since I saw the numbers. Will try to dig up that thread .... probably back in 2004 ot 2005. Might take some time to find it though.

^^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^

There's a range in which the T/C will function without problems.

Option #2 is run whatever stagger you want and just turn off the T/C, that's what I did for one set of tires, and IMO, is still the best way to go; T/C sucks.

freakstatus
02-12-2011, 10:15 AM
There are plenty of tires available, you just have to do some research. If you have a Marauder with traction control the rear tire have to be at least 3% larger diameter than the fronts or your traction control will complain. you can not turn off the traction control with a tuner. If you have a Marauder with out traction control you can run the same size at all 4 corners. As stated you can get a tune to correct a difference in the speedo.

Hey Jim,

What about stock size fronts (235/50/18) with 255/55/18's in the rear. Would that be within the range of being ok? I've thought of switching out my rears but was always wary of the T/C response.

SC Cheesehead
02-12-2011, 11:01 AM
Hey Jim,

What about stock size fronts (235/50/18) with 255/55/18's in the rear. Would that be within the range of being ok? I've thought of switching out my rears but was always wary of the T/C response.

Works fine. That's the set-up I've been running for the past 2 1/2 years with zero issues.

Bluerauder
02-12-2011, 12:46 PM
Hey Jim,

What about stock size fronts (235/50/18) with 255/55/18's in the rear. Would that be within the range of being ok? I've thought of switching out my rears but was always wary of the T/C response.

I ran the 235/50/18 OEMs up front with GoodYear Eagle DS-G3 255/55/18 on the rear for 2 years. Not a problem at all with that size combo. Just got rid of the GoodYears 'cause I really wasn't thrilled with them wear-wise and grip-wise. I am back to the BFGs on the rear and don't seem to have the concerns with them that others here might have. Of course, I have resigned myself to replacing the rears at about 20K miles or less.

Kodimar
02-12-2011, 05:33 PM
Thanks guys!

freakstatus
02-12-2011, 06:53 PM
Looks like I'll be switching brands when its time!:up: