Got some bling

[musclemerc]

I've been busy lately, but I got a little time in with the MM tonight. I'm putting together some parts and maybe by the end of Spring I can get them installed. I need to find myself a nice 62~65mm TB and maybe a Lightning MAF. The fuel delivery was recently redone, I added twin SVT focus pumps and a 3" fuel filter mod.

It's a good time to be N/A there is alot of activity with Mach1 and Cobra guys hitting 350~360 RWHP with stock components. it seems the stock 96 Cobra cams are the key, especially when their advanced 4*. These guys are now moving towards the stock runner lengths on the ported intakes and passing up on the PSRI's

This is a pic of both 96 Cobra cams and my new P&P intake

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/musclemerc/0144.jpg


Modularspeed originally did the port work on this one. I picked it up used and on the cheap.

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/musclemerc/0154.jpg


It was cut open ported and tigged back together reusing the stock base

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/musclemerc/0164.jpg

[RacerX]

If you rub that plenum... I hear a Genie pops out! ;)
PS: Doom will not approve internal bling!

[CBT]

Are they installed yet? :) Take pics :beer:

[J.bo]

musclemerc, are those rwhp numbers with auto trans or manual trans? Does that rwhp number mean a 400hp engine?

[musclemerc]

You are correct J.Bo all you have to do to figure out BHP is add in the 20%loss through the drivetrain

Like i said it's a good time to be N/A. Personally I would be OK with 325~340rwhp and still make Bolt on Champion with a MM. I may have to finally bite the bullet and get a set of 4:10's and maybe a slightly higher stall.

Start checking out: corral.net, moddedmustangs.com,mustangevol ution.com, and mach1registry.org for some info on what the N/A guys are doing.

Look for threads with these guy's they all have alot to offer the N/A 4V world. Nick McKinney, Modularspeed, NA SVT, and Roy are pushing the N/A agenda and are more than willing to help with any questions

[massacre]

I have the same cams and cam timing, but alas, my intake is stock. :(

[musclemerc]

How did you install them Massacre? Advance or Dot-to-Dot?

On a side note if your patient they are out there, you just gotta search high and low. I ended up getting the intake for $400.00 shipped and I helped the guy find some turbo parts for his build.

[massacre]

How did you install them Massacre? Advance or Dot-to-Dot?

I'm not understanding what this means ^^^^^

[a_d_a_m]

I'm not understanding what this means ^^^^^ Did you install them in the stock position (like the old ones were, in other words) or did you advance the timing?


Musclemerc, please start a build thread when you dig in on this. I'd like to stay N/A (especially b/c my car has 102k on the original motor)...this might be just what the Dr. ordered...

[babbage]

That lower intake looks fantastic! Congrats on the deal. With the 96 cams don't you need four -- Or are you only going to do the intake side?

[RacerX]

Travis, the Cloyes cam gears are dot to dot. The dot on the gear is stock, the extra keyways allow retard or advance in 1deg increments up to 4 one way or the other. Each degree keyway being your new "dot". Easy peezie!

[musclemerc]

Did you install them in the stock position (like the old ones were, in other words) or did you advance the timing?


Musclemerc, please start a build thread when you dig in on this. I'd like to stay N/A (especially b/c my car has 102k on the original motor)...this might be just what the Dr. ordered...

Thats the plan, I gotta get a few parts to finish the wish list, then I can finally get a dyno tune


Travis, the Cloyes cam gears are dot to dot. The dot on the gear is stock, the extra keyways allow retard or advance in 1deg increments up to 4 one way or the other. Each degree keyway being your new "dot". Easy peezie!

I know, with the gears we can go -0- and advance/retard 4* in each direction. Did you see the post on SVTP.com? The guy did a cam swap with the front dress in place. I'm buying 4 sets just incase if the stock chains are off more. If I dont use them I will sell the other set to someone else.

[massacre]

Did you install them in the stock position (like the old ones were, in other words) or did you advance the timing?



Oh OK I see now. I advanced the intake cams 4 degrees.

110 degree intake centerline
114 degree exhaust centerline

No adjustable gears, just did the "grind the keyway" method on the primary cam gears, and used the B-head intake cam gears(no integral key).

[2,4shofast]

I am really interested to see what numbers you will put down!

[DOOM]

Sweet! :coolman:

[ctrlraven]

Make sure you dyno before and after.

[Embassy]

Very nice.

I have FordNut's ported upper/lower plenum and larger TB.

For perspective, here are the numbers he put down on his then-N/A Marauder:


Data from intake install:

Dyno pull after ported intake installation indicates no change in hp or torque at the peaks. Actually, no change from about 5k up. However, it picked up about 50 ft-lb of torque from 3k-5k. At about 3500 it was putting our 275 ft-lb. The AFR was not affected. This pull was just like the "before" pull, just strap it on and run it. No tc lockup program, no tuning, etc. I wonder what it will do with a new tune?


http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17584


Looking forward to seeing your results.