vortech guys question...

[johnnyrauder]

i got a v3 system from DR. a short time into it the belt sliped off when i got on it pretty hard. it turnd out to be the wrong size belt. ok it happens. now i went 3/4 throttle from a 20mph roll and the belt shredded not all of it just about two ribs, made a mess of my hood liner. the belt still on, hopefully i can make to my shop. anyway it looks like the pullys are straight but who knows. have any one else had this happen? thanks any help is app. the car makes 12.5lb of boost and 430 rwhp.

[LANDY]

What is your blower pulley size?
What is the size of the belt that was taken off?

[BODYMAN]

Yep this happens with the goodole one belt systems a pulley ever so slightly out of align will cause this and it can be a pain finding the culprit.

[-Matt-]

yeah sounds like mis-aligned pulleys

[LANDY]

From previous experience, it could be anything.
That's why I asked the questions.
Tensioner
Missaligned pulleys
Bigger belt than the one it should be there
If its got the the 3.33 pulley on the blower it need a 109" belt, I prefer gates from Napa.

[sailsmen]

Like Black says the best belt is Gates from NAPA.

Most likely culprit is misalignment, usually its the alternator.

Gator Backs grip the best when new but they stretch and are toast after a few thousand miles.

Depending one use you should get at least 20K miles on a belt.

FYI, Vortech recently came out with a series of high grip pulleys. Stay away from the Reichart it is not heat treated and wears away. More than 10psi on a 6 rib belt with stock pulleys and you are going to have belt problems.

[johnnyrauder]

What is your blower pulley size?
What is the size of the belt that was taken off?
don't know yhe pully size and the 1st belt was 111in.

[LANDY]

More than 10psi on a 6 rib belt with stock pulleys and you are going to have belt problems. I have seen up to 14psi on a six rib in a marauder with no problems (stock pulleys).

[LANDY]

don't know yhe pully size and the 1st belt was 111in. is it a t-trim or a s-trim?

At What rpms is your peak psi?

[napolitano]

i got a v3 system from DR. a short time into it the belt sliped off when i got on it pretty hard. it turnd out to be the wrong size belt. ok it happens. now i went 3/4 throttle from a 20mph roll and the belt shredded not all of it just about two ribs, made a mess of my hood liner. the belt still on, hopefully i can make to my shop. anyway it looks like the pullys are straight but who knows. have any one else had this happen? thanks any help is app. the car makes 12.5lb of boost and 430 rwhp.

Stay in touch with Blackbeauty,this is a serious problem and he can help. Belt shredding on your setup should not happen.

[BODYMAN]

Like them guys said GATES its the only one Ill use. Generally speaking the one belt set up like the Vortech it is more commonly seen after 16-17psi. I would focus once U know for sure you got correct size belt on the pulleys U need to make sure they are 100% aligned the smallest misalignment will cause hell.

[FormulaMarauder]

Im running 12psi, and over 500hp on a V2 T Trim, no problems. The oval thin vertical spacer right up front will get the grunt of the dust if its wearing. I run my finger across it every now and then to make sure its clean. Best way to know if you are spinning, rubbing, or shredding.
NEVER had a problem. I did, although, have my pulleys LASER aligned.

[sailsmen]

I have seen up to 14psi on a six rib in a marauder with no problems (stock pulleys).

On a daily driver with regular track use, how many miles and how many passes? What size S/C pulley?

At 10 psi I had some minor slippage on a 6 rib and lots of slippage at 19psi. Obviously the larger the S/C pulley the better.

I have been S/C for 100,000 miles and have over 136 1/4 passes. A few seconds on a Dyno in one gear does not compare to a 1/4 pass.

There is a reason Vortec makes an 8 rib system. 10 Rib systems are becomming common on Mustangs with 12 psi and higher Boost.

[Dennis Reinhart]

He has a 3.6 maybe 10 PSI I am sending him a Gator back belt and Billy Madden will install it and check and make sure the mount is flush and will fix his problem.

[LANDY]

On a daily driver with regular track use, how many miles and how many passes? What size S/C pulley?

At 10 psi I had some minor slippage on a 6 rib and lots of slippage at 19psi. Obviously the larger the S/C pulley the better.

I have been S/C for 100,000 miles and have over 136 1/4 passes. A few seconds on a Dyno in one gear does not compare to a 1/4 pass.

There is a reason Vortec makes an 8 rib system. 10 Rib systems are becomming common on Mustangs with 12 psi and higher Boost.ok, I know all of the info you just provided.
T-trim 3.12 pulley on the blower shifting at 6600rpm no beltslip at all.

[sailsmen]

I hope the 14psi on a 6 rib has good luck with it. If their MM sees the duty mine does they will probably have belt issues.

I realize not everyone drives 20K miles per year or makes 30 passes at the track per year.:D

When the MM is on the Dyno just look at how much that 6 rib belt whips around. Several members have added a pulley above the PS pump where there is a bolt on the TC. There have been a number of members who have posted up issues with the 6 rib at higher boost. This is why several mfg have come out with various belt tensioners.

[LANDY]

He has a 3.6 maybe 10 PSI I am sending him a Gator back belt and Billy Madden will install it and check and make sure the mount is flush and will fix his problem.
I hope this fixes it, ofcourse you know with a 3.6 he needs a 110.5. Again I suggest gates

[LANDY]

I hope the 14psi on a 6 rib has good luck with it. If their MM sees the duty mine does they will probably have belt issues.

I realize not everyone drives 20K miles per year or makes 30 passes at the track per year.:D

When the MM is on the Dyno just look at how much that 6 rib belt whips around. Several members have added a pulley above the PS pump where there is a bolt on the TC. There have been a number of members who have posted up issues with the 6 rib at higher boost. This is why several mfg have come out with various belt tensioners. good point Billy we all use our cars differently.

[johnnyrauder]

I hope this fixes it and if ofcourse you know with a 3.6 he needs a 110.5. Again I suggest gates
i tryed gates doesn't make a 110.5in belt.

[Dennis Reinhart]

i tryed gates doesn't make a 110.5in belt.



Yes they do I just bought one Atech has them, I will order you one Monday.

[Marauder131]

i got a v3 system from DR. a short time into it the belt sliped off when i got on it pretty hard. it turned out to be the wrong size belt. ok it happens. now i went 3/4 throttle from a 20mph roll and the belt shredded not all of it just about two ribs, made a mess of my hood liner. the belt still on, hopefully i can make to my shop. anyway it looks like the pullys are straight but who knows. have any one else had this happen? thanks any help is app. the car makes 12.5lb of boost and 430 rwhp.

Yes, it happens... every single time DR sells a kit!

[Dennis Reinhart]

This is not a fact it is actualy false vortech included a 111" belt this was wrong
It should have bee. 110.5" this has been fixed and the owner aboves car Marauder 131 made 444 rwhp if any one has a issue with Any of my kits whether you bought it from me or not just call me I will help any way I can

[Marauder131]

Don't even go there Dennis.


This is not a fact it is actualy false vortech included a 111" belt this was wrong
It should have bee. 110.5" this has been fixed and the owner aboves car Marauder 131 made 444 rwhp if any one has a issue with Any of my kits whether you bought it from me or not just call me I will help any way I can

[CWright]

Yes, it happens... every single time DR sells a kit!


I have had his kit now for 18 months running 9.5 lbs of boost and 460.97 RWHP, I'm not afraid at all to lay into it and proud to say DENNIS REINHART S/C'd my car! I have had NO PROBLEMS with belts or anything else!

[napolitano]

Yes, it happens... every single time DR sells a kit!


I disagree with you marauder12131. My kit from Dennis is two years old and even with all the additional modificat:flamer:ions is running very strong. Probably the best turn key kit around. Even with my million questions I ask DR, I buy parts from him no problems.

[Marauder131]

I disagree with you marauder12131. My kit from Dennis is two years old and even with all the additional modificat:flamer:ions is running very strong. Probably the best turn key kit around. Even with my million questions I ask DR, I buy parts from him no problems.

I'm glad you like your kit; however, how does this relate to or refute the issues with the wrong belts being sent with his kits? Among other issues.

1. Countless people have been shipped the wrong belt over many years. FACT. Ask me how I know this. Check the boards and see how many times this has happened.

2. Dennis is fully aware of this, yet it continues. Why?

3. Each time, he blames Vortech. This kit is not a complete kit from Vortech, but a custom kit he sells. He is responsible for ensuring the proper parts, belts included get sent with the kits to his customers. If this isn't happening, even if Vortech were in fact sending them, this only means that he is not checking the parts being sent and dealing with the issue, even after being fully aware of repeated issues with this. The responsibility still falls upon him regardless. People are purchasing from him, not Vortech.

4. People receive improper parts and install them and have issues that should not occur. Surely people should be intelligent enough by now to see through this. Or is it logical that after so many years, so many people still get the wrong belt? Really?

[JoeBoomz]

My car ran 111" for six years without an issue but I guess it's important to point out that I never had it at the track, and I don't know if the original owner did. I didn't know it was supposed to have 110.5 until I talked to DR when I put the smaller pulley on.

Unless you're running a smaller pulley I don't think it makes much a difference for regular driving (any difference seems to be made up by the tensioner).


My kit from Dennis is two years old and even with all the additional modificat:flamer:ions is running very strong. Probably the best turn key kit around. Even with my million questions I ask DR, I buy parts from him no problems.

+1 on this one too.

[CWright]

Yes, it happens... every single time DR sells a kit!


I'm glad you like your kit; however, how does this relate to or refute the issues with the wrong belts being sent with his kits? Among other issues.

1. Countless people have been shipped the wrong belt over many years. FACT. Ask me how I know this. Check the boards and see how many times this has happened.

2. Dennis is fully aware of this, yet it continues. Why?

3. Each time, he blames Vortech. This kit is not a complete kit from Vortech, but a custom kit he sells. He is responsible for ensuring the proper parts, belts included get sent with the kits to his customers. If this isn't happening, even if Vortech were in fact sending them, this only means that he is not checking the parts being sent and dealing with the issue, even after being fully aware of repeated issues with this. The responsibility still falls upon him regardless. People are purchasing from him, not Vortech.

4. People receive improper parts and install them and have issues that should not occur. Surely people should be intelligent enough by now to see through this. Or is it logical that after so many years, so many people still get the wrong belt? Really?

I believe you have made your point. You have now sold your kit and should be done with this all together. Levi along with myself said that we had good results with DR's Kit so the EVERY SINGLE TIME in post 21 you stated is false. Like I said in a previous post, I have had mine 18 months and still on the same belt. I hate it you had a bad experience with his kit. Any time I have had a question or a concern all I have had to do is pick up the phone and call Dennis or shoot him a PM. He has always been helpful. :beer:

[napolitano]

My car ran 111" for six years without an issue. I didn't know it was supposed to have 110.5 until I talked to DR when I put the smaller pulley on.

Unless you're running a smaller pulley I don't think it makes much a difference (any difference seems to be made up by the tensioner).



+1 on this one too.

Either way this guy is upset. Stuff happens, it ends with how the resolution was handled. I went with a smaller pulley last year and DR sent it along with a belt and tensioner tool. Running 12lbs no problems.
Oh well.

[JoeBoomz]

Either way this guy is upset. Stuff happens, it ends with how the resolution was handled. I went with a smaller pulley last year and DR sent it along with a belt and tensioner tool. Running 12lbs no problems.
Oh well.

Agreed - I should have mentioned that mine is not a track car, and that could have made the difference. Or the colder Canadian air temps help out?

[sailsmen]

Marauder131 you posted your grievances in the Vendor Review and the Vendor accepted rsponsibility. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50937

You sold the Kit. You now bring up a thread that is over 2 months old. You told me you had an "inept dyno tuner". Where are your posting about your experience with this "inept dyno tuner"?

It appears you have a vendetta. This is not the vendetta board.

[MrBluGruv]

I begin to think it's worth replacing almost every pully/pullied item under the hood if you are going to change any part of it. :P From nearly day 1 of putting U/D pulleys on my Marauder, I had issues. Went through like 4 belts and at least two alternators, still had no clue what the real issue was because the last belt I was given worked without making noise only when warmed up some.

My car wasn't s/c, nor were the parts from DR, so in that sense sorry to hi-jack, but the point still stands: if economically feasible, consider re-doing the accessory system if you can when modding. :P

[Marauder131]

I believe you have made your point. You have now sold your kit and should be done with this all together. Levi along with myself said that we had good results with DR's Kit so the EVERY SINGLE TIME in post 21 you stated is false. Like I said in a previous post, I have had mine 18 months and still on the same belt. I hate it you had a bad experience with his kit. Any time I have had a question or a concern all I have had to do is pick up the phone and call Dennis or shoot him a PM. He has always been helpful. :beer:

My point was that the issue occurs with far too much regularity. If the issue does not happen literally 100% of the time, is it a non-issue?

If you had a good service experience with your kit and are happy with it, I am truly glad for you. That's great. However, it does not discount or negate the repeated issues others have had and appear to still be having, which I think is very disappointing. People are seeing fit to defend the kit, when in fact I have not commented negatively, or even referenced the kit itself. I have only spoken on the issue of incorrect belts.


I don't have an axe to grind, I just fail see the complexity of sending people the correct belt.

[Marauder131]

Enlighten me,

I have a vendetta because yet another customer was shipped the wrong belt? You are correct, in that I have now sold my kit, which is completely irrelevant. In saying that, I hope the new owner gets a lot of enjoyment from it. That person will receive a proper belt by the way, because I personally went and purchased the right one to replace the wrong one, I was knowingly sent by Dennis.

You're going astray, as usual, to deflect from my merely making some valid points on a recurring issue.



Marauder131 you posted your grievances in the Vendor Review and the Vendor accepted rsponsibility. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50937

You sold the Kit. You now bring up a thread that is over 2 months old. You told me you had an "inept dyno tuner". Where are your posting about your experience with this "inept dyno tuner"?

It appears you have a vendetta. This is not the vendetta board.

[jsignorelli]

I have a Vortech YS trim on one of my Mustangs. It uses an 8 rib belt. In eight years, I have never had so much as a piece of rubber detach. I change the belts every other years as a precaution. The YS trim makes 19 1/2 puonds of boost into my 331 stroker engine.If 620 HP and 547 Ft-Lbs doesn't break a belt, then what will?
I suspect you have a bad pulley, either mis-alligned or a rough spot.

[Fourth Horseman]

Not trying to stir the pot or get into an argument with anybody, but I just wanted to chime in and say that Dennis got me the right length belt for my kit (110.5") at no charge for the belt or shipping. His support has been outstanding. I had never installed a supercharger before this Vortech V3 air-air kit, but he helped me through the whole process. I just recently installed a full Kooks exhaust that I bought from him and so I had the car re-dyno-tuned at Shelby in Las Vegas. It made 453 WHP / 400 WTQ on 8 psi of boost and nice conservative (read: "safe") tune. I couldn't be happier. I'm very grateful to Dennis for all of his help and support.

I just picked up a used low mileage '07 Lincoln Town Car, so I'll be calling Dennis this week for an intake and tune for that, too. :beer:
(No, I'm not going to be supercharging the Town Car. :lol:)

[Marauder131]

Not trying to stir the pot or get into an argument with anybody, but I just wanted to chime in and say that Dennis got me the right length belt for my kit (110.5") at no charge for the belt or shipping. His support has been outstanding. I had never installed a supercharger before this Vortech V3 air-air kit, but he helped me through the whole process. I just recently installed a full Kooks exhaust that I bought from him and so I had the car re-dyno-tuned at Shelby in Las Vegas. It made 453 WHP / 400 WTQ on 8 psi of boost and nice conservative (read: "safe") tune. I couldn't be happier. I'm very grateful to Dennis for all of his help and support.

I just picked up a used low mileage '07 Lincoln Town Car, so I'll be calling Dennis this week for an intake and tune for that, too. :beer:
(No, I'm not going to be supercharging the Town Car. :lol:)

So, essentially you got the wrong one originally, that you paid for with the kit?

[Fourth Horseman]

So, essentially you got the wrong one originally, that you paid for with the kit?

I think it was yes, but it ran ok for me. Maybe if I ran a lot of boost it wouldn't have, I can't say. But I called Dennis and he made it right. One call, no big deal.

[Marauder131]

I think it was yes, but it ran ok for me. Maybe if I ran a lot of boost it wouldn't have, I can't say. But I called Dennis and he made it right. One call, no big deal.


Which still just proves the singular point I have been trying to make. The point is you got the wrong one in the first place, as it seems have the bulk of people, for years on end. I guess I'm the only one who finds this inexplicable.

[CWright]

But on the positive side, Dennis made it right with a new one. :beer:

[risky]

Damn all this going back and forth for just the wrong belt size

[Marauder131]

But on the positive side, Dennis made it right with a new one. :beer:

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[Marauder131]

But on the positive side, Dennis made it right with a new one. :beer:

Yes, to turn around and send someone else the wrong one again. You guys kill me. If people don't mind receiving the wrong parts time and again, who am I to argue. lol

[Fourth Horseman]

Yes, to turn around and send someone else the wrong one again. You guys kill me. If people don't mind receiving the wrong parts time and again, who am I to argue. lol

Cool. Guess we're done here, then. :beer:

[jstevens]

be careful or they might ban you.

[sailsmen]

Marauder131 - why did you wait until AFTER you sold your kit to make these statements?

Did you disclose these issues to all prosecptive buyers of your kit?

Again why no mention of your "inept dyno tuner"?

[Marauder131]

Marauder131 you posted your grievances in the Vendor Review. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50937



Thanks for the bump.

[jsignorelli]

I have a V-7, YS trim on my 93 Mustang. It uses an 8 rib belt. In seven years, I have never had a belt slip. I replace them every few years as the wear demands, and that's it!
It sounds like you have alignment problems somewhere.

[-Matt-]

Marauder131 - why did you wait until AFTER you sold your kit to make these statements?

Did you disclose these issues to all prosecptive buyers of your kit?

Again why no mention of your "inept dyno tuner"?

Stop hanging off DR's nuts

[LANDY]

Stop hanging off DR's nutsLmao bump........

[Mac-MerC]

Stop hanging off DR's nuts

the most basic threads are starting to get exciting :D

[kariamack]

the most basic threads are starting to get exciting :D

Haha agree

[sailsmen]

Stop hanging off DR's nuts

You truly are ignorant, which is no ones fault but your own. My post that you are referring too is dated 7-17-2011.

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Marauder131 you posted your grievances in the Vendor Review and the Vendor accepted rsponsibility. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...ad.php?t=50937

You sold the Kit. You now bring up a thread that is over 2 months old. You told me you had an "inept dyno tuner". Where are your posting about your experience with this "inept dyno tuner"?

It appears you have a vendetta. This is not the vendetta board.


Marauder131 posted a review of his S/C Kit and DR on 2-5-2009. Here was Dr's response;
"02-05-2009, 01:07 PM
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I take full blame for this, and I had no idea we would have the issues we did. I under valued the kit to save you duties, and as you recall when I sent the pipes customs held them for I think two weeks because of this, no matter this was my fault. I take full responsibility for this. I did a two way call with you and customs and worked to resolve this, every super charged car should be checked on a dyno, at some point, I can send a file from a car that was tuned here but that tune may be off, on another car and that is what I did for you I, paid for most of the shipping, and in the early kits I needed the cross over tube back since that cost me 185.00 and now we have adapters and there is no need for a exchange, I truly apologize for all of this and I understand your frustration, I learned from this, it really is very difficult to ship to Canada, and I will not offer this kit because of this, just as no one can sell a kit to any one in California legally. So I respect your well written review. Dwight The picture shows a very good install. you did a very good job.

Dennis A Reinhart"

Marauder131 then places his S/C kit that he expressed great dissatisfaction with for sale. No where can I find where he warned the buyer or disclosed his satisfaction. After he sells the Kit he then post about it?

While you are in the vendor review I suggest you also read my 12-14-2008 review of DR.

You are ignorant of what if any relationship I may have with DR. A reading of my posts over the past year will reveal what if any relationship there is.

You are very ignorant of me and who I am. We have never met. I assure you if we had you would not make that statement in my presence. I am looking forward to meeting you in person.

[LANDY]

Man oh man.
In B4 the LOCK............

[guspech750]

Man oh man.
In B4 the LOCK............

I just want to hi to my fellow MM peeps before the lock.

HI!!


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[TAKEDOWN]

Which still just proves the singular point I have been trying to make. The point is you got the wrong one in the first place, as it seems have the bulk of people, for years on end. I guess I'm the only one who finds this inexplicable.


We hear you...

Hi Guspech750, this thread has run its course in before the lock!

[sailsmen]

Stop hanging off DR's nuts

Matt - in your own words from your own thread;
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62897


"Picture taken of Zack after we finished "spoonin"
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/ZackMatt.jpg

Quote:
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Looks good man! Does Zack have morning breath?
Matt -
"Lets just say that for the last 3 days, his breath was my breath"

Quote:
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"Life Partner"

LMFAO!!

Matt -
"Thats exactly what we are"

There is no comment I can make that says more about you than your own words.

[-Matt-]

I assure you if we had you would not make that statement in my presence. I am looking forward to meeting you in person.

So you can what? Beat me up?


All you did was post more of DR's bull***** excuses... you make a mistake once, not most of the time. Once your integrity is lost, its the hardest thing to gain back.


Also i have no intention of meeting you or want to meet you. Honestly because i now decided that i just dont like you. ;)

[-Matt-]

There is no comment I can make that says more about you than your own words.


I do love Zack..... because he is actually a TRUE contributing member of Marauder society, not someone just trying to make a buck.

You have no argument sir.

[jstevens]

Zack is the greatest. Just like a roots blower.

[sailsmen]

So you can what? Beat me up?


All you did was post more of DR's bull***** excuses... you make a mistake once, not most of the time. Once your integrity is lost, its the hardest thing to gain back.


Also i have no intention of meeting you or want to meet you. Honestly because i now decided that i just dont like you. ;)

Because you would never say what you have posted to my face. Particularly if you knew me.

Your statement truly is out of ignorance.

All you need to do is read what is in everyone of my post.

It appears you did not read Marauder131's review or DRs response. "I take full blame for this...... no matter this was my fault. I take full responsibility for this. So I respect your well written review."

I don't expect you to like me. When you personaly attack me I will defend myself.

[guspech750]

Zack is the greatest. Just like a roots blower.

You are soooooooo right. He's so dreamy!!
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[Marauder131]

Marauder131 - why did you wait until AFTER you sold your kit to make these statements?



I didn't. I also commented on the belt issue way back in my vendor review, the very review in fact, that you posted a link to in this thread. Perhaps read it more thoroughly. Point #20 to be precise.


Marauder131 you posted your grievances in the Vendor Review and the Vendor accepted rsponsibility. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50937





Besides, an incorrect belt is the least of one's worries when dealing with DR, from what I am reading as of late.

[sailsmen]

I didn't. I commented on the belt issue way back in my vendor review, the very review in fact, that you posted a link to in this thread. Perhaps read it more thoroughly. Point #20 to be precise.





Besides, an incorrect belt is the least of one's worries when dealing with DR, from what I am reading as of late.

When I said "these statements" it was in reference to your below 07-16-2011 post - " 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrauder
i got a v3 system from DR. a short time into it the belt sliped off when i got on it pretty hard. it turned out to be the wrong size belt. ok it happens. now i went 3/4 throttle from a 20mph roll and the belt shredded not all of it just about two ribs, made a mess of my hood liner. the belt still on, hopefully i can make to my shop. anyway it looks like the pullys are straight but who knows. have any one else had this happen? thanks any help is app. the car makes 12.5lb of boost and 430 rwhp.

Yes, it happens... every single time DR sells a kit! "

What kinda of person gives a bad review. Shuts up. Sells it and then brings up old negative posts about it? Why didn't you advertise it on this site as a bad kit when you were selling it?

[-Matt-]

I see your still trying to defend DR.... how many of "his faults" do we have to hear about?

[Marauder131]

When I saidi these statements it was in What kinda of person gives a bad review. Shuts up. Sells it and then brings up old negative posts about it? Why didn't you advertise it on this site as a bad kit when you were selling it?

Since you're reading impaired, I'll assist you. Within this thread, my criticism revolved only around the singular issue of the wrong belts being provided with the Vortech kits. This fact seems lost on you, with your attempt to turn it into something else entirely, simply due to your awareness that I sold my kit.

Yes, I did sell my Vortech, which is not relevant to the topic at hand. But, since you insist. When discussing my former Vortech kit with its new owner, I was very honest and objective in communicating both its strengths as well as shortcomings. In fact, I stated very clearly to him, that if money were no object and he wanted the best kit for the Marauder, that he should not buy my Vortech, but instead buy a Trilogy. Which is what I now have and I could not be happier. Does that satisfy you? Happy now?

[sailsmen]

I see your still trying to defend DR.... how many of "his faults" do we have to hear about?

I am defending myself.

I have no interest in DR as stated in every post I make.

Why don't I post to revive old threads where Zack was DR's biggest supporter and worked for DR? Perhaps doing so would be out of context with today and be viewed as having a motive?

[sailsmen]

Since you're reading impaired, I'll assist you. Within this thread, my criticism revolved only around the singular issue of the wrong belts being provided with the Vortech kits. This fact seems lost on you, with your attempt to turn it into something else entirely, simply due to your awareness that I sold my kit.

Yes, I did sell my Vortech, which is not relevant to the topic at hand. But, since you insist. When discussing my former Vortech kit with its new owner, I was very honest and objective in communicating both its strengths as well as shortcomings. In fact, I stated very clearly to him, that if money were no object and he wanted the best kit for the Marauder, that he should not buy my Vortech, but instead buy a Trilogy. Which is what I now have and I could not be happier. Does that satisfy you? Happy now?

What it shows me is on 2 occasions you revived this thread solely to stir sh@# when it was to your advantage! Not to help anyone other than yourself.

[Marauder131]

What it shows me is on 2 occasions you revived this thread solely to stir sh@# when it was to your advantage! Not to help anyone other than yourself.

Just like I was helping myself when I told someone NOT to buy my Vortech.

[sailsmen]

Thanks for the bump.

A 4+ month old reply is bump? Why "mislead" using me? Why not just post and revive it?

[-Matt-]

I am defending myself.

I have no interest in DR as stated in every post I make.

Why don't I post to revive old threads where Zack was DR's biggest supporter and worked for DR? Perhaps doing so would be out of context with today and be viewed as having a motive?


Zack came all the way to Texas to help me install my Vortech.

It took us 3 days including the headers and BAP and new cam covers. 3 DAYS!

And guess what!? No belt slipping, tearing, rubbing or ANY problems with it in the last year... and i put my car through her paces everyday.

I know im not the only guy with nothing but good things to say about Zack.... oh and best of all, i can TRUST him.

[sailsmen]

Zack came all the way to Texas to help me install my Vortech.

It took us 3 days including the headers and BAP and new cam covers. 3 DAYS!

And guess what!? No belt slipping, tearing, rubbing or ANY problems with it in the last year... and i put my car through her paces everyday.

I know im not the only guy with nothing but good things to say about Zack.... oh and best of all, i can TRUST him.

I think you have made your "TRUST" of him pecuilarly clear in your thread, (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62897), and recapped in my post #57. I don' think anyone would dispute your "TRUST" of him.

[Mac-MerC]

:popcorn::popcorn::argue::popc orn::popcorn:
a good read this is

[Marauder131]

A 4+ month old reply is bump? Why "mislead" using me? Why not just post and revive it?

Just giving a sincere belated thank you for posting a link to my vendor review. It helps spread awareness and forewarn others. Thanks again, I mean that.

[MM2004]

Knock off the :bs: please?

I did say please...

Mike.

[-Matt-]

Knock off the :bs: please?

I did say please...

Mike.


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[MM2004]

Have it your way then.

Mike.