supercharger or not?

[mercury5]

It looks like by Oct. i will i be in the market and able to buy a supercharger, if all works out, my question/ concern is that my marauder has 120,000 miles on it:bigcry:. will this damage it, or shall i get the engine reworked, what is the least i can do and get by to support this set up, and what cam do you reccomend, i want a hard hitting one, if someone can please give me a good set up/ combination that would put me close to the price as the supercharger kits, if i had to get the motor rebuilt and hold off on the blower , i can live with that , i just to need to make a move before the wife realizes that i need things that are not important like underwear and socks:mad:

[slickster]

Hi I'm from Lynchburg btw. I think it's best and safe to beef up the motor first and might as well bore stroke etc.and beef the tranny. Did you happened to buy your car from a ford dealer in Lynchburg

[mercury5]

no, i brought mine in 2003 new from a small dealership in Buena vista,va.
i in that area alot, i go to cunningham brothers pick and save alll the time.

[jstevens]

I would maybe do a compression check or some other test to determine the strength of the engine. It is not too unusual to s/c a higher mileage engine.

I know of one or two that s/c a 100K mile vehicle with no issues. Are you planning roots or centri? Not sure if that makes a difference on the engine loads.

[Gryphonzus]

My plan for my 100,000 miler was to purchase the top of the line novi 2200 and install it but set it up for about 450 horses to the wheel. Then save some more money up for when the engine finally gives up the ghost and then purchase an aluminator or similar engine to drop in its place. It all depends on how much you want to spend. Good luck with your decision.

[Pat]

I would say keeping your boost level around 10 lbs would go a long way in keeping your engine whole. Fuel system upgrades, injector size also contribute greatly to engine longevity. Another power enhancement would be long tube headers to oversome exhaust restictions and aid in realizing horsepower potential as funds become available at a later date..

Making your car quick is not all horsepower, rear end gearing and a stall converter upgrade go a long way in lowering ET with little decrease in fuel economy.

Reinhart Automotive, a Vendor here at MM.Net markets a non-intercooled centrifical setup that is very reasonable and makes about 400 HP.

[jstevens]

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. If you keep the boost within limits it'll go a long way in keeping your engine safe for the most part.

[burt ragio]

If you have changed the motor oil & trans fluid regularly a compression test results good I would have no hesitation on adding a s/c. Keep the boost under 10 psi ample fuel delivery good a/f & timming you should be set to go.

[xavier296]

I added the S/C to my MM at 91k miles, and have happily driven it for 15k miles with 8 lbs of boost going in. I added 4.11 gears at about 80k. If you are looking for huge power, do some work on the engine, but if you are happy with ~400 rwhp and ~450 rwtq, 8-10 lbs of boost and a good tune shouldn't be a problem on your engine.

[SC Cheesehead]

If you have changed the motor oil & trans fluid regularly a compression test results good I would have no hesitation on adding a s/c. Keep the boost under 10 psi ample fuel delivery good a/f & timming you should be set to go.

^^^^^ What he said. ^^^^^

If the engine's in good shape mechanically, moderate boost from S/C shouldn't be a problem.

Can't overstate the importance of fuel delivery and proper timing. Running lean, or pre-detonation is usually fatal to these motors, S/C or N/A.

[slickster]

no, i brought mine in 2003 new from a small dealership in Buena vista,va.
i in that area alot, i go to cunningham brothers pick and save alll the time.

Yea I use to go there also I knew Jim for 10years I don't think that man never smiled

[LANDY]

Do it, break it and make it faster. By the way its not how much boost, its how well is tuned and how often you use the power.

[SC Cheesehead]

Do it, break it and make it faster. By the way its not how much boost, its how well is tuned and how often you use the power.

Agree to a point. I don't know as if I'd recommend running 16-18 lbs of boost on a stock motor with 120K on the clock, but I guess if you never got on it, that would be okay... ;) ------> :D


Big +1 on the tune.

[FormulaMarauder]

beef up the motor first and might as well bore stroke etc.and beef the tranny.

For the power he wants to make, that recommendation is completely overkill. Our trannys are fine, very rarely do hard parts fail, even with super high HP cars.

That being said, nobody strokes these engines, and getting a bore job done is not necesary either. I would say less than 1% of members here, and that includes those with aftermarket engines. A different motor like a Boss M6010 or otherwise, maybe. But this thread is about a blower.

You can pick your poison in regards to blowers. Roots type, or centrifigual.

I have the Dennis Reinhart kit. A Vortech air-to-air intercooled V2 T-Trim kit. My block and tranny are STOCK, and dynoed at over 513hp w/race gas on a race gas tune, on 12psi. My daily grind "street" tune is about 478hp. My car never missied a beat and runs super super strong. NEVER an issue. This kit is just amazing.

It's currently running 11.7's consistent at 118mph, and is high on the first page timeslips.

I'm working on a completely custom fabricated gigantic turbo setup now, so I'll be selling my Vortech kit come fall.

[DOOM]

To answer your question about cams. DONT!

[LANDY]

Agree to a point. I don't know as if I'd recommend running 16-18 lbs of boost on a stock motor with 120K on the clock, but I guess if you never got on it, that would be okay... ;) ------> :D


Big +1 on the tune. I should have been more clear, ofcourse we don't want to run 16-18 lbs of boost on the stock motor, mainly because of the compression ratio.
We need more octane.
I don't see. Problem running 13-14 lb of boost on 93 octane as long as the timing is set right.
I ran 12psi on my previous car, it was blown since 27k miles and I sold it with 72k.
I only got on it when I needed to and the engine never gave me a problem.
I the car did go thru 3 trannys but what its got now is bulletproof.

[jstevens]

I run 11.5 lbs of boost and get into it daily. Of course I have low mileage (39K)

[SC Cheesehead]

I should have been more clear, ofcourse we don't want to run 16-18 lbs of boost on the stock motor, mainly because of the compression ratio.
We need more octane.
I don't see. Problem running 13-14 lb of boost on 93 octane as long as the timing is set right.
I ran 12psi on my previous car, it was blown since 27k miles and I sold it with 72k.
I only got on it when I needed to and the engine never gave me a problem.
I the car did go thru 3 trannys but what its got now is bulletproof.

I was just jacking you around, Landy, I know what meant, and I agree with it.

Also agree with longevity on the engine, but boost does make it rather difficult to keep your foot out of it, even when it's not needed... ;) ----> :D


I run 11.5 lbs of boost and get into it daily. Of course I have low mileage (39K)

I'm running about 11 lbs, just turned 66K on the clock and no issues. I (ahem) occasionally get in to it myself. (What's that, another red light? Aw shucks, guess I'll just have to stop and wait for it to turn green... :burnout:)

[O's Fan Rich]

Put one on... crank it up... Blow it up and do it again!!!!!! That's my feeling.

[DTUB]

Don't do it, you might end up like me :shake:

[jstevens]

and I thought I was the only one that liked getting stopped by red lights.

[slickster]

So there saying doit but don't get on it as much? One guy said he went into 3 trans from 27k to 72k. IMO 240rwhp to 380 is more then what this car was built for

[dpotter]

Just do it and have fun, if you beat the hell out of it at every light every day you will need to replace some things sooner than if you baby it but what fun is that.

Get the blower and have fun, I did and don't regret it for a second!

[Marauderjack]

I put mine on at 84K miles and now have over 227K miles on the original engine....no leak and no oil consumption....runs GREAT!!:beer::bows:

GO FER IT!!!:D

[LANDY]

I was just jacking you around, I tought that was Casey's job.:lol:

[SC Cheesehead]

So there saying doit but don't get on it as much? One guy said he went into 3 trans from 27k to 72k. IMO 240rwhp to 380 is more then what this car was built for

The cars are pretty stout, the engine and tranny's should handle up to 450 hp without problems if they're well maintained and driven with a little common sense. BTW, you can wreck a tranny with a N/A car if you constantly do forced downshifts (WOT) from OD to 2nd, the OD band is a weak link the the trans.


I tought that was Casey's job.:lol:

Yeah, but I help him out occasionally when he gets backlogged... ;)

[LANDY]

So there saying doit but don't get on it as much? One guy said he went into 3 trans from 27k to 72k. IMO 240rwhp to 380 is more then what this car was built for there is so much that goes into play to what we all said. There are plenty of people out there running a blower for many miles without a single drivetrain problem.
Problem comes when you push it to the limit, I did several 11.6 passes with my car. Thats why I had to replace more things on my car then the average people.

[jstevens]

The only time I had issues with my trans was on my 04 when I added Nitrous.

I think a blower is more gentle as the power comes on more evenly.

[Bradley G]

Don't do it! :P

[sailsmen]

Have an oil and trans sample done. Inexpensive data that will tell you the condition of both.

Just make sure you know what fluid is in it and the mileage on it.

[1stMerc]

Don't do it! :P

Do it! Do it! :D

[mercury5]

thank you all for the feed back it help me alot. forget the needed underwear and socks if going for the supercharger

[1stMerc]

IIRC, Dom supercharged his MM at around that mileage. All told he did pretty well. Not sure how many miles he has on it now.

[SC Cheesehead]

IIRC, Dom supercharged his MM at around that mileage. All told he did pretty well. Not sure how many miles he has on it now.


Over 9,000 .....

[slickster]

someone had to crossfire

[burtreynolds]

I am running a 125 wet shot on pump gas with tune on a stock 108k motor where the last 30k has been weekend drag racing and hard driving. I checked compression and check it weekly. No real difference. Good Compression means good to go.