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LOWBUCKMM
06-08-2011, 07:53 PM
I have a motor from a 93 mark 8. I have been told its not the same as the Marauder block. Does anyone know.

LANDY
06-08-2011, 07:57 PM
It's a teksid block, in my opinion the best aluminum mod block. It's not the same as ours.
Maybe someone knows the difference and can chime in.

Dennis Reinhart
06-08-2011, 08:09 PM
It is a very good block to build far better than a Marauder block the tumble port heads will bolt directly on it.

MOTOWN
06-08-2011, 08:16 PM
yeah if its out of a mark8 its a teksid block, you can tell by the sqaure pattern on the top of the block, our (mm) blocks have a diamond shape pattern on top, just google your block #, and you will see you have the best aluminum block you can get your hands on, prolly a 6015

FordNut
06-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Minor differences, but as already stated it will work just fine and it's a great choice for a buildup.

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 03:43 AM
Ok so the marauer heads will work on it? And what would I need to do to put it in my car. After I built it of course.

DTUB
06-09-2011, 11:05 AM
Ok so the marauer heads will work on it? And what would I need to do to put it in my car. After I built it of course.
An engine hoist.
I have one if you need it.

RacerX
06-09-2011, 11:14 AM
You'll need to use your front timing cover on it. I think that has a thick reluctor wheel and two piece crank gears, which will work fine. Check chain guides for wear and make sure the tensioners are good.

CBT
06-09-2011, 11:17 AM
Okay Brandon, spill it, are you the next Eaton swap, hmmmmmmmmm????

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 11:37 AM
the teksid block is an excellent choice, ill be building my engine with a teksid you wont find a better aluminum block, and some came from the factory with forged cranks.

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 11:59 AM
Okay Brandon, spill it, are you the next Eaton swap, hmmmmmmmmm????

Casey I wont lie to you. Its...........

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 12:00 PM
the teksid block is an excellent choice, ill be building my engine with a teksid you wont find a better aluminum block, and some came from the factory with forged cranks.

So if it has a 8 bolt crank its forged right??

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:17 PM
That's going to have a 6 bolt cast iron crank. I don't think you really need to worry about the crank though. It's the glass pistons and rods I'd worry about. It's been stated by good builders over and over that the Teksids and the WAPs are just as good. FE if you're going 800+...

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:25 PM
So if it has a 8 bolt crank its forged right??

correct if it has an 8 bolt crank its forged, and the teksid is a far better block than the wap (windsor) block, and yes the rods, and pistons are the weak links in mod motors.

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 12:25 PM
Well im going to build it for good amounts of boost. So I want it done right.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:32 PM
build that teksid ,and you wont have any regrets! research that block and you will see its good for 1,000plus h.p.

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 12:38 PM
build that teksid ,and you wont have any regrets! research that block and you will see its good for 1,000plus h.p.

Sweet. But is a cast crank good for much power.

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:38 PM
Then you need a forged rotating assembly. Stroker? John @ Modularperformance, Livernois, ModMaxRacing, Sullivanperformance, MMR...
First you want that block stripped down, cleaned, decked, TQ plate honed, then get the assembly in case you need .020 over rings, etc.

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Sweet. But is a cast crank good for much power.
Yes. If you need pistons, rods, bearings, it's cheaper to get the whole assembly with forged crank. Have it all balanced too!

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Sweet. But is a cast crank good for much power.

ummm no, if your talking 450h.p., or above you want a forged motor!

for my teksid its getting forged je pistons, manley rods, and a forged stroker crank, put in the good stuff the first time and forget about it;)

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:45 PM
ummm no, if your talking 450h.p., or above you want a forged motor!
BS!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:49 PM
BS!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

ok bud we are all entitled to our own opinions, but you know what they say about opinions!:beer:

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:51 PM
BS!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

its very ironic you say b.s. but yet in your sig you have what? a forged motor! go figure:bs:

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:52 PM
Dude, it's a fact. A cast crank can do 700RWHP. Unless Sean Hyland, John Tymensky and others are wrong...

BTW!!! My forged motor has a balanced 6 bolt cast crank that is good for 700RWHP...

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 12:53 PM
im doing a 5.3 so I should be fine.

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:55 PM
im doing a 5.3 so I should be fine.
HUH? You need a 302 block with a stroker assembly to do that...

Blackened300a
06-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Just for curiosity. I have a 99 cobra Teskid block. If I wanted to drop a assembled long block into my Marauder, I would have to swap out the timing cover, flexplate, intake manifold, and what else to make it work?
My entire fuel system and ignition will be from the Marauder. Im just curious about any other snags dropping a long block in.

RacerX
06-09-2011, 12:58 PM
Oil filter/cooler location?

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 12:59 PM
Dude, it's a fact. A cast crank can do 700RWHP. Unless Sean Hyland, John Tymensky and others are wrong...

BTW!!! My forged motor has a balanced 6 bolt cast crank that is good for 700RWHP...

im not arguing that fact!, what im saying is why leave the cast crank if your going to go forged rods, and pistons?

and we all know once you turn up the boost, you will be wanting that forged crank for peace of mind!

do it the first go round!

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:02 PM
Just for curiosity. I have a 99 cobra Teskid block. If I wanted to drop a assembled long block into my Marauder, I would have to swap out the timing cover, flexplate, intake manifold, and what else to make it work?
My entire fuel system and ignition will be from the Marauder. Im just curious about any other snags dropping a long block in.

you would use all your front dress, and other acc from your engine

RacerX
06-09-2011, 01:04 PM
im not arguing that fact!, what im saying is why leave the cast crank if your going to go forged rods, and pistons?

and we all know once you turn up the boost, you will be wanting that forged crank for peace of mind!

do it the first go round!
I did say that... I said rotating assembly. He stated "Sweet. But is a cast crank good for much power." I answered. :cool:
CYAL8R

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 01:04 PM
HUH? You need a 302 block with a stroker assembly to do that...

Well looks like I need to redo my research. That I did over a year ago and forgot about.

Blackened300a
06-09-2011, 01:04 PM
you would use all your front dress, and other acc from your engine

Thats what I figured. I have a fellow member interested in buying my teskid block just he was told that it would take a ton of work dropping it in and I told him its not that complicated since he'll be using all the Marauder parts.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:08 PM
Thats what I figured. I have a fellow member interested in buying my teskid block just he was told that it would take a ton of work dropping it in and I told him its not that complicated since he'll be using all the Marauder parts.

with the mm front dress, and acc it will bolt straight in:banana2:

LANDY
06-09-2011, 01:10 PM
It's a fact that the cast crank is good for a decent amount of power but if you have the engine apart just forge everything. Done

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:11 PM
I did say that... I said rotating assembly. He stated "Sweet. But is a cast crank good for much power." I answered. :cool:
CYAL8R

go ahead mr 700 h.p. cast crank! i hope you like ventilation!:mad2:

there is no way in hell i would even attempt taking a cast crank to 700 hp!

good luck with that, maybe sean will tow you home:beer:

DTUB
06-09-2011, 01:11 PM
Just take your block out to 5.0.
A 5.3 is too expensive and some have had head gasket issues.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:16 PM
Just take your block out to 5.0.
A 5.3 is too expensive and some have had head gasket issues.

agreed! best route to go:beer:

RacerX
06-09-2011, 01:17 PM
go ahead mr 700 h.p. cast crank! i hope you like ventilation!:mad2:

there is no way in hell i would even attempt taking a cast crank to 700 hp!

good luck with that, maybe sean will tow you home:beer:
R u serious. Why would you wish that on anyone, esp. someone you've never met an would probably stop in the middle of a downpour to help you out on the side of the road if you had a flat. I did an ENORMOUS amount of research on everything and will be soon @ around 520rwhp which is well within safe margins for a cast (AND balanced) crank.

Sorry about the threadjack btw Lowbuck...

BTW. A little info on some relative parts: http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51 691&d=1298934663

Seneca
06-09-2011, 01:21 PM
nice read here guys, As i've got a 98 teksid block waiting for my car too. keep up the posts!

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:24 PM
R u serious. Why would you wish that on anyone, esp. someone you've never met an would probably stop in the middle of a downpour to help you out on the side of the road if you had a flat. I did an ENORMOUS amount of research on everything and will be soon @ around 520rwhp which is well within safe margins for a cast (AND balanced) crank.

Sorry about the threadjack btw Lowbuck...


RACERX i would not wish a break down on anyone, i have nothing but respect for you, but clearly we disagree!

i just would not take a cast crank past 450-500 hp, if you feel different i respect that, but it doesnt mean that i would do it.

if we ever meet the first beer is on me bud:beer:

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 01:28 PM
nice read here guys, As i've got a 98 teksid block waiting for my car too. keep up the posts!

oh stay tuned bud! i promise there is more madness in the works!:banana2:

RacerX
06-09-2011, 01:29 PM
We agree to disagree. :beer:

FordNut
06-09-2011, 02:47 PM
This one got off in the ditch for awhile, eh?

My two cents on several comments...

Teksid block is the best production block to use for a 4.6 buildup or even a 5.0 (5.1?) stroker. The aluminator block is even better.

Internals, a 4.6 cast crank is good for at least 600 rwhp. If I intended to go for 700 or so, I'd put in a forged crank. If I disassembled and found a cast crank that needed turned, I would get a forged crank instead of paying the machining expenses. If you're going for a stroker, it's a forged crank. That's all there is.

If you build a 5.3 or a 5.0 big bore (not stroker) it's best to use the Boss5.0 block. It's cast iron, but it works. The other option is putting sleeves in an aluminum block. That's where the head gasket problems come into play on the 5.3, it's not the 5.3 itself it's the sleeved block.

If you're doing a buildup, it really might be less expensive to get a forged rotating assembly instead of just getting forged pistons, rings, rods. Then you would have a forged crank too.

CBT
06-09-2011, 03:51 PM
RACERX i would not wish a break down on anyone, i have nothing but respect for you, but clearly we disagree!

i just would not take a cast crank past 450-500 hp, if you feel different i respect that, but it doesnt mean that i would do it.

if we ever meet the first beer is on me bud:beer:
What about me?! I also disagree with ya if there is free beer involved! :D

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 04:13 PM
What about me?! I also disagree with ya if there is free beer involved! :D

i owe you a free beer for all :censor: jokes you post when im having a tuff day at work:lol:

CBT
06-09-2011, 04:30 PM
i owe you a free beer for all :censor: jokes you post when im having a tuff day at work:lol:
You should join the mayhem live at one of the gatherings, lol.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 04:36 PM
You should join the mayhem live at one of the gatherings, lol.

yeah im going to do my best to make hershey, and meet everyone

RacerX
06-09-2011, 05:31 PM
yeah im going to do my best to make hershey, and meet everyone
Ewwwww!!! Please don't do hersey here! :D Leave the skidmarks to ole swamp balls in his chrome thong and flip flops!!

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 05:33 PM
Ewwwww!!! Please don't do hersey here! :D Leave the skidmarks to ole swamp balls in his chrome thong and flip flops!!

you got it bud!:lol:

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 07:04 PM
So how much are the Teksid blocks worth

Bradley G
06-09-2011, 07:08 PM
I'll give you a buck three eighty :D
So how much are the Teksid blocks worth

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 07:10 PM
I'll give you a buck three eighty :D

That's a little less then I payed for it

Joe Walsh
06-09-2011, 07:15 PM
TEKSIDs usually go for $300 - $400 dollars.

Bradley G
06-09-2011, 07:16 PM
I think the range I've seen is 3-5 hundred


That's a little less then I payed for it

Blackened300a
06-09-2011, 07:21 PM
TEKSIDs usually go for $300 - $400 dollars.

Thats just for a short block correct? What about a running long block with a steel crank out of a 99 Cobra?

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 07:22 PM
So how much are the Teksid blocks worth

are you looking to sell your teksid?

Joe Walsh
06-09-2011, 07:23 PM
Thats just for a short block correct? What about a running long block with a steel crank out of a 99 Cobra?

No, I was just talking about a bare TEKSID block with no guts.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 07:25 PM
Thats just for a short block correct? What about a running long block with a steel crank out of a 99 Cobra?

its hard to say what a running long block is worth as most are only interested in the block

LOWBUCKMM
06-09-2011, 07:43 PM
are you looking to sell your teksid?

No I wont sell it. Just wondering. Cause I payed $40 for a complete motor.

CBT
06-09-2011, 07:46 PM
No I wont sell it. Just wondering. Cause I payed $40 for a complete motor.
40 bucks?! WIN! They don't call you lowbuck for nuthin, do they?
Modularford.com, teksids pop up for sale on there, you could cost compare.

MOTOWN
06-09-2011, 07:56 PM
No I wont sell it. Just wondering. Cause I payed $40 for a complete motor.

wow! i thought i was the lowball king! i bow down to you bud!:bows::bows:

hey if you come across another let me know, as i havent got mines yet

LSCR351
06-13-2011, 11:20 AM
I paid a guy $75 to pull out a 93 Mark 8 motor. I stripped the intake and heads off while it was still the junkyard. And I paid $125 for the Teksid short block.

Now I just sits on my engine stand!

massacre
06-13-2011, 11:44 AM
HUH? You need a 302 block with a stroker assembly to do that...


Nope, just need to get the block sleeved.
Like I was telling you, my buddy that has MJchip's old motor, same deal.
Aluminum 4.6 NVH block, sleeved, and stoked. 5.3L

FordNut
06-13-2011, 01:42 PM
Nope, just need to get the block sleeved.
Like I was telling you, my buddy that has MJchip's old motor, same deal.
Aluminum 4.6 NVH block, sleeved, and stoked. 5.3L

DO NOT sleeve an aluminum 4.6 block. Been there, done that.