SB Getting an Aluminator installed!

[RacerX]

SB Getting an Aluminator installed!
Anyone here? I'll drop by Protree Performance a mile up the road at lunch for some pics. May not be someone on here since they didn't know you need an 8 bolt flex plate to go with that new engine...

[Mr. Man]

:hmmm: Paula's SB is still in the driveway so :dunno:.. Might be Marys car. Does it have Mass plates?

[RacerX]

Just took a look at it, but, didn't look at the plates. It's an sc'd Aluminator and the 8 bolt flexplate came in and is installed. No pics because I have all day to take them tomorrow. I'm helping out as an extra pair of hands and eyes. :cool:

[stevemarauder]

Pics and what shop did the install?

[RacerX]

I'm helping with the install tomorrow (If all goes well). Protree Performance in Hudson, NH. Man down with a back injury. I'll take some pics tomorrow.

[BODYMAN]

Nice another SB getting the treatment! You say its a low comp RacerX

[MMBLUE]

I'm helping with the install tomorrow (If all goes well). Protree Performance in Hudson, NH. Man down with a back injury. I'll take some pics tomorrow.

I used to race at the roundy round track in Hudson. Thanks for the memory spark. Also, raced at Star and Lee. The owner of Hudson and Star is a really nice guy.

[RacerX]

Well, unfortunately, the owner was in the hospital for a few days with a major back injury. I was at the shop to work with his right hand man and he was a no show. No show this morning either. Not good for them. Too bad. I see some gotchas that will occur. There's a Trilogy going on top of this also. All in boxes ready for install. It'll be a sweet ride, once it's done. Whoever the owner is, he's got NH plates and likes Hayabusas! ;)

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[BODYMAN]

Well, unfortunately, the owner was in the hospital for a few days with a major back injury. I was at the shop to work with his right hand man and he was a no show. No show this morning either. Not good for them. Too bad. I see some gotchas that will occur. There's a Trilogy going on top of this also. All in boxes ready for install. It'll be a sweet ride, once it's done. Whoever the owner is, he's got NH plates and likes Hayabusas! ;)

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/579/IMG02.jpg
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Like the rest of us he likes to go fast.. Sweet

[DEFYANT]

Subscribing.....

[RacerX]

Got there and was able to ensure that the flexplate was removed from the crank and the holes drilled into the new FRPP M-6375 flexplate. There are 4 indentations in the new flexplate center bellshape that allow the new holes to be drilled and no interference on the tc nuts. 29/64ths drill bit if I remember right. PITA!!! Anyhoo, Brandy new 10.1:1 cr engine and Trilogy. Met the owner earlier today. Very nice guy!!! See if we can bring him in the fold. Here's a few pics, not the best quality, but, I was more worried about getting some of this done.

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[MOTOWN]

wow nice set up!

[BODYMAN]

Man now Iam starting to regret not keeping the blue V-covers on my Alluminator after seeing these pics

[BODYMAN]

What size S/C pulley is he planning on running? When you talked to him did he say what kinda boost he is gonna push thru it.

[RacerX]

He's running the stockers (9psi?) on it until it's been broken in then he's going to decide what to do on pulleys. I think he needs more fuel before he does more to it. Stock pump and the kb bap may not be enough since you can put a lot through this engine without worry. Hmmm, then he'll need axles... :burnout:

[bugsyc]

Rough estimate on dollars invested in this project???

[RacerX]

Well, right off the top we know the aluminator shipped is a bit over 6k and the Trilogy kit I believe is still around 6k. not sure what the install is, but, it is labor intensive obviously. Looks like the new kits still have the problem Dennis showed with boost entering the pcv system. Sweet, new kit addresses IAT issue as said before.

[BODYMAN]

I know he atleast 14,000 right off the top thats pretty much less anylabor this **** adds up quick. So quick it can at times make youre head spin..........

[RacerX]

SOoooooo... That Trilogy binder/book really says 4 hours on the install... BWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaah..... :D
Should be able to fire her up tomorrow night.
More candy:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/579/IMG_0507.JPG

[BODYMAN]

Very darn nicer Racer he should be very pleased with this. Only problem I see he is gonna max out that Eaton they just dont seem very effecientafter about 14.5-15lbs boost just my thoughts a/f becomes very turblent

[BODYMAN]

Did he do any type of cooling mod? even with Alluminator the rear cylinder cooling is still a problem with that kinda $ I want all the ins I can buy

[RacerX]

That was the second thing I noticed and mentioned. No cooling mod. The first was "Are those logs really staying with the engine??? Stock exhaust. Stock FP w/kb bap. I think with this much going into the car, there should be a few changes. I'm just a second set of hands and eyes though, not my beast! :)

[BODYMAN]

no doubt on fuel. Last thing he wants is it go lean escp with a 10.1 less forgiving. I thought Trilogy came with a upgrade pump? As for cooling mod I find it suprising Lidio doesnt do any on his builds either these are both ins things. That much $ better safe then sorry.

[Spectragod]

no doubt on fuel. Last thing he wants is it go lean escp with a 10.1 less forgiving. I thought Trilogy came with a upgrade pump? As for cooling mod I find it suprising Lidio doesnt do any on his builds either these are both ins things. That much $ better safe then sorry.

Not only does Lidio not do them, he recommends "not" doing them. His conclusion is, "if the tune is right, you won't need the cooling mod".

I'll take his word for it, my car runs better with his tune than it did with the previous, makes more HP and waaay more torque. My tune felt "on the edge" before, a re-tune and a couple of parts, it runs better than before.

[CBT]

SOoooooo... That Trilogy binder/book really says 4 hours on the install... BWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaah..... :D
Should be able to fire her up tomorrow night.
More candy:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/579/IMG_0507.JPG

That's hot. :beer:

[cougar9150]

I know this guy, almost bought this one when I was shopping for my replacement. The hyabusa (however it's spelled) plates gave it away. Had my buddy look at it and he said it was very clean and well maintained. Just had a few things from being a northern car I didn't care for.

Glad he kept it and is modding the crap out of it. When we had talked I could tell he didn't really want to sell it.

[RacerX]

Ken's a good guy. I talked with him about his modded Hayabusa. This will be better than NA, but, owning a 200+ mph modded busa... :D I suppose this will be the DD. :D

[RacerX]

About the only thing that got done tonight was cleaning the pidgeon, 3 gerbils, 2 ferrets, a family of moles, a bear cub and a pine needle nest out of the wiper motor area. Things came up to prevent us from getting more done. Tomorrow we will get her finished and fired up, the good Lord willing! :D

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[BODYMAN]

He really needs some better coil covers

[BODYMAN]

Not only does Lidio not do them, he recommends "not" doing them. His conclusion is, "if the tune is right, you won't need the cooling mod".

I'll take his word for it, my car runs better with his tune than it did with the previous, makes more HP and waaay more torque. My tune felt "on the edge" before, a re-tune and a couple of parts, it runs better than before.

Make sense. But the what if is what would worry me. Say a guy is realying on stk temp guage and things get real hot before he knows it. Those back cylinders would be 1st to fry. But I cannot question someone of his knowledge.:beer:

[RacerX]

He really needs some better coil covers
He has some nice ones he hasn't dropped off to the shop yet. We just have the old ones on there so we can fire her up. Definitely need a little tlc in some areas.

[BODYMAN]

He has some nice ones he hasn't dropped off to the shop yet. We just have the old ones on there so we can fire her up. Definitely need a little tlc in some areas.

:beer: I Kinda figured with that much$ in all the other goodies!!

[Spectragod]

Make sense. But the what if is what would worry me. Say a guy is realying on stk temp guage and things get real hot before he knows it. Those back cylinders would be 1st to fry. But I cannot question someone of his knowledge.:beer:

He told me he had built plenty of motors, and had never had one of his come back with #'s 7 & 8 burnt up, as long as they still were using his tune, that last part may be the key.

[RacerX]

Pull timing or add fuel. I bet it's just a bit more fuel. That in itself helps cool everything down. Pyrometer is another way to tune.

[RacerX]

Sweet! I had to call Zman with a question. He called right back (ThanX Bro!) even though we figured it out. We had filled the IC reservoir, turned the key to power the IC pump and didn't get to add more coolant in time before it sucked in air. Couldn't seem to get the system to prime. Finally got it by clamping the incoming hose and pressurizing the system. I can't believe this kit and all the T-taps for electrical. I soldered, heat shrinked and wrapped every damn connection! Anyway!!! Nick and I fired her up at 10:30 tonight... VROOMMMM!!! :D First start! Sounds beautiful! We have a small vacuum leak because of a high idle (no, not IAC), but, minor details. Now it's cleanup, get the wipers on, find the vacuum leak and get her on the dyno (tomorrow!).

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[TAKEDOWN]

Those FORD blue covers looks s0 g00d with that MARAUDER!

[MOTOWN]

+1 on the cam covers! nice install looks nice!

[BODYMAN]

Sweet! I had to call Zman with a question. He called right back (ThanX Bro!) even though we figured it out. We had filled the IC reservoir, turned the key to power the IC pump and didn't get to add more coolant in time before it sucked in air. Couldn't seem to get the system to prime. Finally got it by clamping the incoming hose and pressurizing the system. I can't believe this kit and all the T-taps for electrical. I soldered, heat shrinked and wrapped every damn connection! Anyway!!! Nick and I fired her up at 10:30 tonight... VROOMMMM!!! :D First start! Sounds beautiful! We have a small vacuum leak because of a high idle (no, not IAC), but, minor details. Now it's cleanup, get the wipers on, find the vacuum leak and get her on the dyno (tomorrow!).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/579/IMG_0521.JPG

Very,Very nice Racer!!! Zack is always such a big help and never ask's for any:beer:thing in return.. Now U really got me wanting to take the black cam covers off and send them back to action PC and get them back to the blue they were on my Alluminator originally:D Did you get the owner to join us here? I know you metioned that at 1st to him. Good to see more Alluminators going in.

[BODYMAN]

He told me he had built plenty of motors, and had never had one of his come back with #'s 7 & 8 burnt up, as long as they still were using his tune, that last part may be the key.

Yep thats what he told BuckWheat on his build he is doing for him. He is for sure a guy (Lidio) I would never second guess :beer: I guess though Fords tune's arent very good from factory Ive seen stockers fry them pistons..

[BODYMAN]

U gonna get a video on the dyno?? Like to see that!!!!

[RacerX]

The owner is on the other site. ;) I'll try to get a video, it will most likely get dynoed while I'm at my day job though. We'll see. Video is a priority if possible. :beer:

[Mr. Man]

The owner is on the other site. ;) I'll try to get a video, it will most likely get dynoed while I'm at my day job though. We'll see. Video is a priority if possible. :beer:
Your day job is to argue with me about who's post is more colorful? How do I sign up to get a check for that?:rolleyes: Here I am doing it for free :shake: T-ain't -WSS :D

[RacerX]

Addco sway bars went on last night. Little bumps in the road here and there that we're working on, but, a little video at idle while "burping" the cot.

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[BODYMAN]

Stk exhaust eh? I say Dyno is around 400 w/9lbs stk exhaust and 10.1 motor what ya think racer. Iam correct in assuming no LT'S? didnt sound like it.

[RacerX]

Stock logs. ;) Flowmasters are the only non-stock part of the exhaust. I bet 390 last night at the shop so we'll see. :D

[Mr. Man]

408HP and 397TQ is my guess

[BODYMAN]

Stock logs. ;) Flowmasters are the only non-stock part of the exhaust. I bet 390 last night at the shop so we'll see. :D

I would say youre probably pretty close Mr Man is in the ball park to. Considering no 2 cars are the same Iam gonna say anywheres from 390 to 415. My 1st 03 KBS made 411 with stock exhaust and 9lbs boost.

[RacerX]

For anyone interested or ends up with an 8 bolt flexplate that needs to mate to the stock MM torque converter:

P.S. No dyno yet! Shop shut down for 4th of July weekend and week after. I'll post numbers, vid, whatever I get up when I can.

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[DEFYANT]

Is there a template or do you have to get as close as you can by eye?

[RacerX]

We actually carefully lined up the new flexplate to the Marauder's original, lining up the original plates holes to those areas in the circles, clamped them together with vicegrips (also had a big socket that fit perfectly in the center to help line things up), then carefully drilled the new holes.

[blazen71]

A machine shop could do that real easy and accurate. Probably $50-100.

[RacerX]

If you're not under the gun at 10:00pm and have time to have a machine shop do it, I agree. It's not hard to get it spot on though. It's still balanced as long as all four holes are correctly positioned.

*******BTW*******
I don't think I mentioned in this thread until now that you MUST swap the stock marauder oil pan and pickup tube over to the Aluminator! If you do not, the weight of the engine will sit that pan right on the crossmember.

[DEFYANT]

Right, wrong or indifferent, I would have done the same thing. Thanks for sharing. I hope to be doing this swap also.

[Spectragod]

I bought a Ford flexplate for mine, it had the holes for a stock convertor in it, although I had a circle D convertor, and there were pilot holes in place for the smaller bolt pattern, just had to make them bigger.

[RacerX]

Interestingly enough, most, even with the same FRPP model number, don't have the pilot holes. Bastids have left us in the dust... I'm the one that actually pointed you to the site to buy that flexplate. ;)

[DOOM]

Sweet setup.

Is it running yet? What numbers did he put up?

[RacerX]

Post #48, above the pic. :D The shop is closed for the weekend and following week of the fourth. :depress: Something about camping, time off, sanity... :P I'll find out Monday!

[Spectragod]

Interestingly enough, most, even with the same FRPP model number, don't have the pilot holes. Bastids have left us in the dust... I'm the one that actually pointed you to the site to buy that flexplate. ;)


I know, you were quite helpful too I might add. :beer:

[RacerX]

Update: It's getting a GT40 fp upgrade. Even with the BAP it's thirsty. I believe the Aluminator has the updated heads. This should be interesting. Because it's now getting a custom tune also, I'm going to revise my rwhp estimate and say 425rwhp. :beer:

[RacerX]

It's DONE!!!
Someone move this to the Garage or power adder thread! Mike, please? Bueller... Bueller...:)
400rwhp and 378rwtq @ 9.x psi.

VoWSUhoxPYE

[bugsyc]

The new looking silver brackets? custom made or part of kit? Engine (aluminator) came with blower? eaton swap or trilogy kit??? inquiring minds want to know :confused:

[bugsyc]

Sorry, read post again and see that it's a trilogy kit...:o My bad