Foglights - HID bulb upgrade

[fastblackmerc]

Want to upgrade your foglights to HID bulbs but don't want the hassle and work of modifying the stock H1 bulb retainer?

Well my H10 - 6K HID bulbs arrived.

The H10 bulbs are almost plug-n-play... almost.

Have to sand / grind / file down a few areas for them to mount just like the factory H1 bulbs.

You will still need to use some silicone to seal the bulbs.

This takes about 10 minutes of work compared to the 1 to 2+ hours spent modifying the H1 bulb retainer.

H10 / 6K bulb installed
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0088.jpg

Areas to grind down (they should be obvious), also need to shorten the tab at the upper right.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0097.jpg

[Blackened300a]

You're killing me Jim! You are basically putting out every item I want to install in my car. You will be selling a kit complete with ballasts, bulbs and the harness?

[fastblackmerc]

You're killing me Jim! You are basically putting out every item I want to install in my car. You will be selling a kit complete with ballasts, bulbs and the harness?

I could...............

[ctrlraven]

1-2 hrs? Took me 10-15 mins to modify the stock H1 housing.

Nice option though.

[bigmerc'03]

pictures of where to put the silicon is missing i need to see everything

[fastblackmerc]

pictures of where to put the silicon is missing i need to see everything

Silicone will go around the flange on the bulb and the foglight housing.

[Marauderman]

Your points are terrific, but if you have an "arrow" in your pic/s to point to where your wording points to it would help those less knowledgeable--ok-I will leave now--

[ctrlraven]

pictures of where to put the silicon is missing i need to see everything


Silicone will go around the flange on the bulb and the foglight housing.
I let mine sit for 24 hrs before putting them in the fog lamp housings. I found that this RTV works the best as it is also very adhesive and when it dries it's pretty strong. Plenty strong enough to hold up fine to me twisting the bulb into the lock position on the fog lamp housing and it was kind of tight as well.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-08-23_390.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-08-55_444.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-07-58_755.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-10-19_13.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-11-44_870.jpg

[burt ragio]

Nice mod. What HID mfg did you go with ?

[ctrlraven]

I only go with DDMtuning. FBM recommends others.

[Mebot]

Please help me install mine thanks

[fastblackmerc]

Nice mod. What HID mfg did you go with ?

I got my kit from eBay.

I only buy from U.S. sellers.

I may offer an H10 HID conversion kit if I can get a good deal on them.

[J.bo]

Is that wheather seal on the fog light factory? I don't seem to have that set up.

[ctrlraven]

If you want stuff to match then you need to order all from the same vendor for things.

[Smalldogg/03mm]

Want to upgrade your foglights to HID bulbs but don't want the hassle and work of modifying the stock H1 bulb retainer?

Well my H10 - 6K HID bulbs arrived.

The H10 bulbs are almost plug-n-play... almost.

Have to sand / grind / file down a few areas for them to mount just like the factory H1 bulbs.

You will still need to use some silicone to seal the bulbs.

This takes about 10 minutes of work compared to the 1 to 2+ hours spent modifying the H1 bulb retainer.

H10 / 6K bulb installed
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0088.jpg

Areas to grind down (they should be obvious), also need to shorten the tab at the upper right.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0097.jpg

Hey bud do u offer the head light bubs to ?? Is so I would like to order them thanks

[fastblackmerc]

Hey bud do u offer the head light bubs to ?? Is so I would like to order them thanks

You need a HID kit (bulbs, ballasts, wiring etc.). I can get you a price. Need to know what temperature bulb.

[bigmerc'03]

Want to upgrade your foglights to HID bulbs but don't want the hassle and work of modifying the stock H1 bulb retainer?

Well my H10 - 6K HID bulbs arrived.

The H10 bulbs are almost plug-n-play... almost.

Have to sand / grind / file down a few areas for them to mount just like the factory H1 bulbs.

You will still need to use some silicone to seal the bulbs.

This takes about 10 minutes of work compared to the 1 to 2+ hours spent modifying the H1 bulb retainer.

H10 / 6K bulb installed
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0088.jpg

Areas to grind down (they should be obvious), also need to shorten the tab at the upper right.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u133/fastblackmerc/MM%20Mods/Fog%20Lights/DSCN0097.jpg
i just did thid hid mod it woirk and is very simple thanks for the pics they helped out alot MAN I LOVE THESE HID HEAD AND FOG LIGHTS!!!!!!!:banana::banana2:

[fastblackmerc]

i just did thid hid mod it woirk and is very simple thanks for the pics they helped out alot MAN I LOVE THESE HID HEAD AND FOG LIGHTS!!!!!!!:banana::banana2:

Thanks!

Glad I could help out.

[capt512]

Not trying to bump a old thread, but hate to start a new one when so many exist on this topic. I am placing my order for HID 9007 headlights and h10 foglights, and wanted to know what all has to be done for the foglights wiring wise. I know this thread talks about how to mount them, but wanted to know about if I have to cut off factory connectors, etc. Also I have to buy the full kit again for the fogs right? If so where did you mount your new ballasts?

[fastblackmerc]

Not trying to bump a old thread, but hate to start a new one when so many exist on this topic. I am placing my order for HID 9007 headlights and h10 foglights, and wanted to know what all has to be done for the foglights wiring wise. I know this thread talks about how to mount them, but wanted to know about if I have to cut off factory connectors, etc. Also I have to buy the full kit again for the fogs right? If so where did you mount your new ballasts?
There will be two harnesses on the ballasts. One harness will go to the HID bulb, the other goes to the factory harness. You will most likey have to cut the factory harness. I cut my harness and used Weatherpack connectors (http://www.weatherpack.com/) to make the connections. I also solder all my automotive connections. I also recommend the use of relays (1 per bulb).

You will need "full kits" for the fogs and headlights. A "full kit" would be one ballast / bulb.... unless you got true HID hi / lo headlights like I did.... 4 ballasts just for the headlighhts.... 2 more for the fogs :eek:

You'll have to find places to mount the ballasts.... make sure they are somewhat protected from the elements. I mounted the 4 ballasts for the headlights behind the front bumper... on the metal support.

[capt512]

Did you just use weatherpack splices or the actual connectors? If so which connectors are needed, (& terminals?). Are you putting the relays in line between the factory harness and ballast or ballast and bulb? Which relays would you recommend (have had bad luck with crap relays on headlight upgrades before so want a suggestion on a good one). 6 ballast eh WOWZA lol Looks like the kits I am ordering are 1 ballast per bulb, so just the 4.

[fastblackmerc]

Did you just use weatherpack splices or the actual connectors? If so which connectors are needed, (& terminals?). Are you putting the relays in line between the factory harness and ballast or ballast and bulb? Which relays would you recommend (have had bad luck with crap relays on headlight upgrades before so want a suggestion on a good one). 6 ballast eh WOWZA lol Looks like the kits I am ordering are 1 ballast per bulb, so just the 4.

If you not doing fogs you won't need any connectors. The headlight kit should be plug-n-play. You may have to switch the hi / lo beam wires in the HID kit sockets... sometimes they are incorrect.

The HID kit you buy should have the relay already installed. If you need relays the best are Bosch relays, standard 30/40amp. You will also need sockets for the relays. The relay gets wired in between the factory wring and the ballasts.

I went with the hi / lo HID setup because I wanted true HIDs... some kits are just HID lo beams, HID lo beams with halogen hi beam or HID lo beams with a mechanism to move the HID bulb up and down to simulate hi / lo beams.... neither of them are what I wanted.

What temperature are you getting? Remember the higher temperature the less light output. I went with 6k in headlights & fogs.

[FastMerc]

I let mine sit for 24 hrs before putting them in the fog lamp housings. I found that this RTV works the best as it is also very adhesive and when it dries it's pretty strong. Plenty strong enough to hold up fine to me twisting the bulb into the lock position on the fog lamp housing and it was kind of tight as well.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-08-23_390.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-08-55_444.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-07-58_755.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-10-19_13.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/2011-03-04_09-11-44_870.jpg
This is what I was looking for, yes...

[ctrlraven]

This is what I was looking for, yes...
That is the old school way by modifying the H1 bulb holder itself. Using an H10 bulb makes everything a whole lot easier, a few hours (H1 method) compared to 10-15 mins (H10 method) way.

[fastblackmerc]

That is the old school way by modifying the H1 bulb holder itself. Using an H10 bulb makes everything a whole lot easier, a few hours (H1 method) compared to 10-15 mins (H10 method) way.

Then seal the base of the H10 bulb to the housing with silicone sealer.

[FastMerc]

Whats the shorter version?

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Apparently the shorter version is the H10. I used H1 originally and was a pain.

[FastMerc]

Apparently the shorter version is the H10. I used H1 originally and was a pain.
Doing mine today I will fig it out... lol :)

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Doing mine today I will fig it out... lol :)


How'd this turn out?

[FastMerc]

How'd this turn out?
They are in took some time and I love them, awesome in the dark. :)

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

So did you use the H1 or H10 bulbs?

[FastMerc]

So did you use the H1 or H10 bulbs?
I believe its the H1 Along bulb.

[NorthShoreChiMM]

Just wanted to publicly thank FastBlackMerc for his excellent HID kit and customer service. I recommend this upgrade to anybody who still has stock fog lights. There brighter than stock headlights by 10X

[Mr. Man]

Just wanted to publicly thank FastBlackMerc for his excellent HID kit and customer service. I recommend this upgrade to anybody who still has stock fog lights. There brighter than stock headlights!!
A lit fart is brighter than the stock headlites.

[burt ragio]

What lumen are the upgraded bulbs ?

[fastblackmerc]

What lumen are the upgraded bulbs ?

Factory standard 55 watt halogen bulb produces about 1400 lumens of light. A 35 watt HID produces about 3200 lumens.

[Lowndex]

Factory standard 55 watt halogen bulb produces about 1400 lumens of light. A 35 watt HID produces about 3200 lumens.

And Mishimoto 55 watt HID bulbs produce 5000 lumens.

[burt ragio]

What produces more lumen better focus ? Mishimoto 55 watt HID bulbs produce 5000 lumens. or Morimoto XB LED projector fog lights: offered by the retrofit source ?

[SteelQualityMan]

This is what I was looking for, yes...Just an observation on the type of RTV (Room Temperature Vulcanizing) to use: if it smells like pickles / acetic acid while curing it is not safe for use with electrical or electronic connections. Acids, even something as benign as pickle juice will over time corrode the connection you are trying to protect.

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[fastblackmerc]

Just an observation on the type of RTV (Room Temperature Vulcanizing) to use: if it smells like pickles / acetic acid while curing it is not safe for use with electrical or electronic connections. Acids, even something as benign as pickle juice will over time corrode the connection you are trying to protect.

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Not used for any electrical connections. Used to secure the bulb in the socket. The electrical connections are made with Weather Pack connectors.

[SteelQualityMan]

I understand. It just seemed to be an appropriate place to mention the problem, given that not everyone has those connectors available and may try to use RTV to "waterproof " the connectors they do use.
Not used for any electrical connections. Used to secure the bulb in the socket. The electrical connections are made with Weather Pack connectors.

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[fastblackmerc]

I understand. It just seemed to be an appropriate place to mention the problem, given that not everyone has those connectors available and may try to use RTV to "waterproof " the connectors they do use.

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