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bugsyc
07-09-2011, 06:16 AM
If alot of cobras with eaton superchargerers are changing over or upgrading to whipples, Why can't we go with a whipple fron the start?? On another site they say we can't use a whipple on a stock motor.True???

Spectragod
07-09-2011, 06:20 AM
IIRC, Jerry told me that certain parts had to be modified on the twin screw to make it work for the MM. I know the blower plate will need to be fabbed, as well as an adapter plate for the intake on the rear. I think he also said something about the snout length needing modified, but not 100% sure on that.

FordNut
07-09-2011, 07:09 AM
You can put a Whipple on. But you have to get all the rest of the Eaton swap parts too.

SC Cheesehead
07-09-2011, 07:25 AM
^^^^^ what Fordnut said ^^^^^

One of the attractive aspects of the Eaton swap is lower cost (usually under $5,000, all-in). An Eaton M112 blower will cost you somewhere around $300 used, a new Whipple blower is prolly gonna cost between $4,000 - $5,000, plus the ancillary parts required to install it on your car. But other than the cost issue, it could certainly be done.

For bolt-on and drive, the Trilogy kit is still the best option on the market, IMO.

RacerX
07-09-2011, 08:16 AM
If you stick with a whipple upgrade for an 03/04 cobra and get the rest of the Eaton swap parts, not a prob.

http://www.lethalperformance.com/supercharger-upgrades-supercharger-kits-whipple-4-0l-w245ax-c-16_273_276_3743_10438/whipple-03-04-cobra-w245ax-supercharger-kit-polished-p-35047

Joe Walsh
07-09-2011, 08:31 AM
Has anyone tried a Whipple kit designed for a MACH I?
Essentially the same engine, so I would think this would be a complete bolt in except for the passenger's side intake/battery relocate.

jstevens
07-09-2011, 08:41 AM
Is the difference between the eaton and whipple that drastic? I'm talking performance.

DOOM
07-09-2011, 08:42 AM
a new Whipple blower is prolly gonna cost between $4,000 - $5,000, .

$3,379.99 2.3L whipple from sparta performance. :rock:

LANDY
07-09-2011, 08:49 AM
Is the difference between the eaton and whipple that drastic? I'm talking performance. Ohh yeah......

guspech750
07-09-2011, 08:57 AM
Is the difference between the eaton and whipple that drastic? I'm talking performance.



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justbob
07-09-2011, 09:37 AM
$5200 for a black 4.0 and $5600 for a polished. Oops, how did I know that right off hand?

SC Cheesehead
07-09-2011, 09:47 AM
$3,379.99 2.3L whipple from sparta performance. :rock:


$5200 for a black 4.0 and $5600 for a polished. Oops, how did I know that right off hand?


Size matters....;)

justbob
07-09-2011, 09:57 AM
Oh yes it does! Plus I just broke the urban myth LOL!!!!

FordNut
07-09-2011, 10:12 AM
Has anyone tried a Whipple kit designed for a MACH I?
Essentially the same engine, so I would think this would be a complete bolt in except for the passenger's side intake/battery relocate.

Is there such a kit?

I know the KB kit for Mach 1 uses a single belt for everything, similar to the centrifugals. That can be problematic.

RacerX
07-09-2011, 01:30 PM
Is the difference between the eaton and whipple that drastic? I'm talking performance.
Besides being able to move air more efficiently/less parasitic drag with their twin screw design, the Eatom M112 is 112 cid or 1.83l. You can put a 2.3l to 4.0l, more effiecient, whipple on. :)

SC Cheesehead
07-09-2011, 01:59 PM
Besides being able to move air more efficiently/less parasitic drag with their twin screw design, the Eatom M112 is 112 cid or 1.83l. You can put a 2.3l to 4.0l, more effiecient, whipple on. :)

Yup. Larger size = more air movement for the same rpm; plus a twin screw actually compresses air, whereas a roots-type does not compress air - it only moves it from the intake port to the discharge port (thus the term "blower), the compression is done in the intake manifold.

A good description of the differences is in these articles:

http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=31

http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76

DTUB
07-09-2011, 02:22 PM
There is a 4.0 Whipple crusher kit
and it kinda looks like this.

SC Cheesehead
07-09-2011, 02:25 PM
There is a 4.0 Whipple kit
and it kinda looks like this.

Nice! Doomie would be jealous! :D

Joe Walsh
07-09-2011, 02:32 PM
There is a 4.0 Whipple kit
and it kinda looks like this.

That there is one big blower!

SC Cheesehead
07-09-2011, 02:58 PM
That there is one big blower!


Nah, that ain't a big blower, Joe.

THIS, is a BIG blower:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/07/500x_blown-chevy.jpg (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/07/blown-chevy.jpg)

:D:D

DOOM
07-09-2011, 03:24 PM
That there is one big blower!

That's what she said!