Autometer 4375 A/F gauge install

[gdsqdcr]

I want to install an Autometer 4375 A/F gauge. It says that it will work with most narrow band O2 sensors.

Will I need to install new O2's or is this gauge plug and play?


Thanks in advance

Anthony

[LANDY]

The sensor should come with the kit, BTW aem is a much accurate product.

[Fourth Horseman]

I want to install an Autometer 4375 A/F gauge. It says that it will work with most narrow band O2 sensors.

Will I need to install new O2's or is this gauge plug and play?


Thanks in advance

Anthony

Don't mean to sound harsh, but those narrow band AFR gauges are, in my opinion, useless. I had one for about a day before I took it off. If you'd like an AFR gauge get one that includes a wide band sensor. Trust me on this.

EDIT: I should say that if you intend to keep this gauge it will work with your stock O2 sensor. You'll need to tap the wire coming from the sensor. It's an easy install. Just don't expect any useful info.

[BODYMAN]

+1 on that get a wideband they are much better and much,much more accurate

[TFB]

A wideband gauge is far more useful...

[RR|Suki]

narrow band A/F gauges are useless, don't waste your time

[gdsqdcr]

narrow is bad ... wide is good. I think I got the message. I was trying to keep all the gauges looking the same ... but I found a new AEM Wide band for $160 shipped to my door. Contemplating ...

[RR|Suki]

narrow is bad ... wide is good. I think I got the message. I was trying to keep all the gauges looking the same ... but I found a new AEM Wide band for $160 shipped to my door. Contemplating ...

make sure it includes the O2 sensor

[napolitano]

I want to install an Autometer 4375 A/F gauge. It says that it will work with most narrow band O2 sensors.

Will I need to install new O2's or is this gauge plug and play?


Thanks in advance

Anthony

Im looking into getting a autometer 4378 sideband but blackbeauty got me looking into arm gauge. Where does everyone else install theirs? I was told the rearmost o2 sensor or welda bung before the first sensor for it.

[RacerX]

narrow band A/F gauges are useless, don't waste your time
Not true. You can hook a wideband controller and wideband O2 sensor to a narrowband gauge. You don't get the digital readout unless you're pulling the digital signal from the controller with a firewire cable and logging it with Livelink, etc., but, you get an accurate dipiction through the gauge with the leds.

[RR|Suki]

Not true. You can hook a wideband controller and wideband O2 sensor to a narrowband gauge. You don't get the digital readout unless you're pulling the digital signal from the controller with a firewire cable and logging it with Livelink, etc., but, you get an accurate dipiction through the gauge with the leds.

LOL the narrow band gauge reads 0-1 volt... wideband is 0-5 volts... so you'd not only need the controller but you'd also need to scale the signal with a potentiometer or something and still it prob won't be very accurate, and you'd still only see colours. Green runs from 10 all the way to high 12s and again it'll all be only semi accurate....

OR you could just buy the right thing in the first place, most of the good kits have a gauge included

[RacerX]

You've never done it then. I have. I have a USB to RS232 (Serial Port) cable that i plug the dongle into and other side to the Wideband controller and you cahnge the voltage settings. You have two outputs on the LC-1. You take the one going to your narrowband gauge, set it for 0-1 and the other you keep at 0-5. That goes to the firewire cable that hooks into my SCT tuner.
Page 4 and 14 hotshot. OH, I only paid $100 for everything, to make the right kit. By the time you see the bad numbers on your pretty digital gauge, it's too late anyway.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/LC-1_Manual.pdf

[RR|Suki]

You've never done it then. I have. I have a USB to RS232 (Serial Port) cable that i plug the dongle into and other side to the Wideband controller and you cahnge the voltage settings. You have two outputs on the LC-1. You take the one going to your narrowband gauge, set it for 0-1 and the other you keep at 0-5. That goes to the firewire cable that hooks into my SCT tuner.
Page 4 and 14 hotshot. OH, I only paid $100 for everything, to make the right kit. By the time you see the bad numbers on your pretty digital gauge, it's too late anyway.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/LC-1_Manual.pdf

umm that's exactly what I said you'd have to do... you had to scale the voltage to 0-1 from 5v... congrats the LC-1 did it for you instead of having to use a $5 potentiometer... it's still the same situation, all you know is that the light is green that's rather useless information, you may as well not have the gauge at all and just know the actual number from reading the logs. PS you are still scaling 5v to 1v

How much you paid for used parts is rather irrelevant, there is a guy in town selling his used AEM kit for $120 big deal. Don't act like you can go buy a new LC-1 with a sensor and the narrowband gauge all for under $100.

And actually by the time you see numbers go poorly it doesn't mean the motor is going south. Sure if you run out of fuel instantly it'll be a bad day no matter what, but that's not always the case. In my case, before switching to bigger injectors after some mods I could see on the wideband the numbers start to creep hard in the high RPMs instantly and got out of it before it got hairy instead of having to wait to read the logs after.

In reality, if you have a controller and sensor already it's not like the gauge is the expensive part... they aren't even that much more than the narrow bands

...in case I forgot to say it, you're still just scaling 5v to 1v

[RacerX]

Oh jeesum, the little colored leds are really damn accurate actually. I can make avideo for you to watch with me datalogging at the same time... It's easier to pay attention to the road and have the... Forget it. You win, whatever, who gives a @#$!

[napolitano]

gdsqdcr, I just ordered a AEM wide-band gauge from summit, actually cheaper than the Autometer. Now i haven't decided how to install it. They have a sleeve that goes over your piping with a bung welded to the sleeve. You then drill a hole and screw the sensor for the wide-band in. I'm not totally sold on that idea. Then you could just put it in place of your rear o2 sensor since it is delete already or get a bung welded on before the first o2 sensor. Which way is best, I don't know. Racer X, RR Suki can you guys chime in to let us know the best place to install.

[gdsqdcr]

gdsqdcr, I just ordered a AEM wide-band gauge from summit, actually cheaper than the Autometer. Now i haven't decided how to install it. They have a sleeve that goes over your piping with a bung welded to the sleeve. You then drill a hole and screw the sensor for the wide-band in. I'm not totally sold on that idea. Then you could just put it in place of your rear o2 sensor since it is delete already or get a bung welded on before the first o2 sensor. Which way is best, I don't know. Racer X, RR Suki can you guys chime in to let us know the best place to install.

What part number did you order? I think the correct one for me is the 2 1/16 gauge, part number 30-4100. Summit wants ~210, but I have found it elsewhere for ~170.

Anthony

[RacerX]

The wideband sensors best postion is on the top or side, between 10:00 and 2:00. I'll see if I can remember to take a pic of mine tomorrow.

[napolitano]

What part number did you order? I think the correct one for me is the 2 1/16 gauge, part number 30-4100. Summit wants ~210, but I have found it elsewhere for ~170.

Anthony

Correct part number. Incorrect price. Summit will get you every time if you let them, ask them to price match sparktecmotorsports.com price of $165.00 and $11.74 for shipping. Summit will match it for $164 even and charge you shipping. Mine was $175.95 to my door.

[napolitano]

The wideband sensors best postion is on the top or side, between 10:00 and 2:00. I'll see if I can remember to take a pic of mine tomorrow.

Thanks. But where in the exhaust line did you put yours? Sleeve or bung?

[gdsqdcr]

Correct part number. Incorrect price. Summit will get you every time if you let them, ask them to price match sparktecmotorsports.com price of $165.00 and $11.74 for shipping. Summit will match it for $164 even and charge you shipping. Mine was $175.95 to my door.

Thanks! :beer:

Did not know that they price matched.

Anthony

[napolitano]

Yes sir, they sure do.

[RacerX]

Actually, my Cobra exhaust came with two extra bungs welded perfectly just for wideband sensors. (no pic yet, doh!)

[gdsqdcr]

Correct part number. Incorrect price. Summit will get you every time if you let them, ask them to price match sparktecmotorsports.com price of $165.00 and $11.74 for shipping. Summit will match it for $164 even and charge you shipping. Mine was $175.95 to my door.


Ordered AEM 30-4100. They matched $149.99, as found on myextremeparts.com.

Ordered Autometer 6549. They matched 78.49 from some off the wall website.

Should be here late next week! :D

~Anthony

[napolitano]

Wow. That's cheaper than I found them for. I should have kept searching. Good going