Any Interest in a Turbo Kit [Archive] - MercuryMarauder.net Forums

BODYMAN

07-30-2011, 07:52 PM

This is strictly a feeler kinda just throwing this out there. Kinda wandered if there was a option for a good quality Turbo system. Say something that would be safe for a stock motor but could be upgraded for the built motor guys. Something say with a standard kit and a HO kit. I have no exact price nor can I say for sure Iam close but something around the price of a avg Eaton swap?? This could possibly be another option for all of us. I have spoken with someone who builds custom kits at his shop but planning to sit down with him sometime next week and discuss a few things. So I was hoping I could get a idea if any interest. Feel free to chime in

PS higher up's nothing more then this will be done without agreement.

BODYMAN

07-30-2011, 10:34 PM

Nobody! Iam seriously thinking about taken my Eaton swap and Whipple off and letting him see what he can do something mild a smaller t-sze Garret making like 12psi just to see what it makes. of course put it back together the way it is afterwards. To me I think Turbo's are neat just for the simple fact they make amazing TQ. Dont know about others but regret not getting a PTK when they came out. What was the price of one 8yrs ago?? anyone

ntd

07-31-2011, 03:18 AM

I would sell my paxton in a second for a turbo kit.

loud2004marquis

07-31-2011, 05:23 AM

Dont know about others but regret not getting a PTK when they came out. What was the price of one 8yrs ago??

Are you saying there was a turbo kit available eight years ago? PTK?

LOWBUCKMM

07-31-2011, 05:35 AM

Are you saying there was a turbo kit available eight years ago? PTK?

Yes there was a turbo kit made for the Marauder. The place that made them went out of business. Probably cause the kit cost close to 7k. And now adays the kits are very hard to find and pricey or incomplete if you do find one.

Chevyguy

07-31-2011, 05:42 AM

"Kit" is kinda nice but plenty of Turbo 2V's out there made with no kit. Cut/weld the exhaust pipe and whatever plumbing needed. Turbo 2V scream, a 4V should be WOOWWWWWW

FordNut

07-31-2011, 06:19 AM

loud2004marquis

07-31-2011, 06:33 AM

What do you think the ballpark price would be for a custom turbo setup on a Marauder?

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 07:24 AM

The kit that used to be available was terrible. The pipes were routed underneath the crossmember and got smashed. It's going to be a challenge to find a good way to route the pipes because of the massive crossmember.

Tim can figure it out if anybody can. He had a car in his shop for awhile which had the old PTK kit installed so he knows the pitfalls of that approach. He has done numerous custom kits on Mustangs so if it is possible he's the guy to do it.

If you change from the SC to turbo, you won't switch back.

I remember if it was a better kit for what you paid for it I would have snacthed one up. What you said about swicthing to a turbo and not wanting to go back is very true. Hung out for the day with a old friend from high school he has a 2011 Challenger with twins on it, That car was just so fun to drive I think his #'s were around 825ish/880tq. The guy that did his does alot a Dodge stuff Chargers,Challengers,Vipers from all over the country. I talked to that guy last fall when shopping for my S/C parts. He was interested in building me something but said it would be around 7 to 8 thousand Not incl fuel. I told him the problems encontoured with the Crossmember and so forth it didnt seem to concern him but did say that may be a big increase in the job price wise.
This other guy I have been talking to is a one man shop and I like his attitude (we got to make something u dont have to take a loan out for)

DOOM

07-31-2011, 09:00 AM

Good luck! Will be watching. :popcorn:

jimlam56

07-31-2011, 09:24 AM

At least two members here got the kit to work way back when, but it cost a lot of time and money to make it work.

mcgyver59

07-31-2011, 09:30 AM

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 09:55 AM

You will spend no less than 20k to have a turbo system made then fortify everything else to.support the power.
If you.choose to 'bolt it on and go' you will end up spending more in the end to fix broken parts.

I know what Iam up against beleive me. Ck my sig on my SB motor is not gonna be issue. But fuel sure will be. however already running 80lb inj and larger fuel lines it will just be time to do the retrun style Zack has been hounding me to do. Easier for me as Ill be going from one PA to another. Also Why I mentioned maybe a STD kit and a HO kit cant forget the guys on stock motors;) As said Iam strictly visiting this option with a more then capable person about possibility.

LANDY

07-31-2011, 10:27 AM

I will also sell my t-trim kit for a turbo kit anyday.
Todd it would be sweet if you find out about it, also I would boost the living hell out of that 8:5.1 motor you got

ImpalaSlayer

07-31-2011, 10:36 AM

I will also sell my t-trim kit for a turbo kit anyday.
Todd it would be sweet if you find out about it, also I would boost the living hell out of that 8:5.1 motor you got
Landy, i still got this SB intake, did you still wana test it?

kariamack

07-31-2011, 10:50 AM

I would be down for another turbo kit that doesnt suck like the PTK kit..I would sell my Trilogy kit

cougar9150

07-31-2011, 11:15 AM

I would sell the parts I have been collecting for my Procharger setup and jump on a reasonably priced Turbo setup in a heartbeat.

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1stMerc

07-31-2011, 11:19 AM

Todd, good luck with the endeavor...

LANDY

07-31-2011, 11:34 AM

Landy, i still got this SB intake, did you still wana test it? send it to me I ha be a couple of more fuel problems to solve and I will be on the rollers. It's been slow around here with the mm.

Ktorres1

07-31-2011, 11:35 AM

I guess this kinda answers the supercharger vs turbo ?

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 12:31 PM

Todd, good luck with the endeavor...

Thanks Waymon! My buddy warned me about driving his Challenger.

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 12:35 PM

send it to me I ha be a couple of more fuel problems to solve and I will be on the rollers. It's been slow around here with the mm.

Landy, What did you end up doing on the fuel? Like we talked modded hat? Ive decided to go full return style with some good pumps so hopefully I dont have to re-visit as more power comes it's way Just be done with it..

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 12:38 PM

I guess this kinda answers the supercharger vs turbo ?

Not sure about that Theres some big names out there on S/C and vs versa Once I have a turbo Ill have had them all & on S/C centri & PD. Like all the big name builders out there say every mod has some type good and bad.. Why cant we just leave are cars stock and be happy :D

LANDY

07-31-2011, 01:15 PM

Landy, What did you end up doing on the fuel? Like we talked modded hat? Ive decided to go full return style with some good pumps so hopefully I dont have to re-visit as more power comes it's way Just be done with it.. I just got the extra hat so far, I have been busy selling all the cars I had and now we just bought a clean one owner 2000 camaro ss with slp package this one is staying and Lizz will be daily driving it. I should be able to get something done this coming week.
BTW I don't know what pumps are you using but my buddy's T/A aeromotive A1000 overheated after 60 miles on a 200 mile trip. He said it wasnt fun.

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 02:12 PM

I just got the extra hat so far, I have been busy selling all the cars I had and now we just bought a clean one owner 2000 camaro ss with slp package this one is staying and Lizz will be daily driving it. I should be able to get something done this coming week.
BTW I don't know what pumps are you using but my buddy's T/A aeromotive A1000 overheated after 60 miles on a 200 mile trip. He said it wasnt fun.

Google it I have heard of other aeromotive having heat problems. I want to go with twin bosch44's sumped should give me a piece mind

jimlam56

07-31-2011, 03:54 PM

I just got the extra hat so far, I have been busy selling all the cars I had and now we just bought a clean one owner 2000 camaro ss with slp package this one is staying and Lizz will be daily driving it. I should be able to get something done this coming week.
BTW I don't know what pumps are you using but my buddy's T/A aeromotive A1000 overheated after 60 miles on a 200 mile trip. He said it wasnt fun.
Pics of the Camaro please... Or show up on the 13th with it...

LANDY

07-31-2011, 03:58 PM

Google it I have heard of other aeromotive having heat problems. I want to go with twin bosch44's sumped should give me a piece mind
Good to know the twin bosh will do better. If you can let me know where to order a modded FPDM I would appreciate it. Thanks

LANDY

07-31-2011, 04:04 PM

Pics of the Camaro please... Or show up on the 13th with it...I can have her drive it to the museum on the 13.

FordNut

07-31-2011, 04:18 PM

Google it I have heard of other aeromotive having heat problems. I want to go with twin bosch44's sumped should give me a piece mind

Is that the Aeromotive 1000 or the 340? I was thinking of trying twin 340's in my car to replace the twin GT supercar pumps.

LANDY

07-31-2011, 04:51 PM

Is that the Aeromotive 1000 or the 340? I was thinking of trying twin 340's in my car to replace the twin GT supercar pumps. aeromotive 1000 is for return style, it would be nice to know how reliable thue 340's are on our car

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 05:06 PM

Is that the Aeromotive 1000 or the 340? I was thinking of trying twin 340's in my car to replace the twin GT supercar pumps.

Brian, I have only heard of the prob on the 1000

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 05:08 PM

I just got the extra hat so far, I have been busy selling all the cars I had and now we just bought a clean one owner 2000 camaro ss with slp package this one is staying and Lizz will be daily driving it. I should be able to get something done this coming week.
BTW I don't know what pumps are you using but my buddy's T/A aeromotive A1000 overheated after 60 miles on a 200 mile trip. He said it wasnt fun.

Just wait till ya start modding it and seeing how well it does N/A and for not that much $

LANDY

07-31-2011, 05:21 PM

Just wait till ya start modding it and seeing how well it does N/A and for not that much $ that is why I dumped the mustang its was slow and I wanted to buy something cash that I can mod cheap and be reliable. She calls it the mullet mobile LOL

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 05:55 PM

that is why I dumped the mustang its was slow and I wanted to buy something cash that I can mod cheap and be reliable. She calls it the mullet mobile LOL

Yep Joe Dirt. If I could ever bring myself to own a chevy besides a new ZR-1, SS would be it. However I have never owned anything but Ford's its in my blood. Saturday night cruise I was talking with a guy who had a SS, Sounded awesome he sad last dyno was 748 and on motor I told him Iam jealous and probably not a ton more then a blower for are cars. It leaves me asking myself why do I insist in continually doing this to myself, Dam Ford's HA,LOL you will enjoy that thing

Chevyguy

07-31-2011, 06:52 PM

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 07:52 PM

Here's' some kiddie with rear mount turbos (those are crap) on a Vomet comet with a marauder engine swap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-Ford-Crown-Victoria-P71-police-32v-twin-turbo-4-6L-/160628380483?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2566329343#ht_500wt_1 182

The wheelbase alone on are car's cries out NO just for starters then add the other probs I have seen with a rear mount. It will be interesting to see what my guy has to say.Talking with him Today he mention along with complete kit even doing starter kits for the economical minded person something like all the parts the avg person cant make tubing and fabricated parts.. welding, tube bending along with detailed list of other required parts and the owner does there own locating of the other parts in a way kinda like a eaton swap wheel & deal I thought it was a decent idea to maybe make this something more possible for some. Things look positive but who knows well see..

MOTOWN

07-31-2011, 08:02 PM

A turbo kit would be great!, i just wonder about where to mount the turbo? not a fan of the under body type kits, the engine compartment is just so tight on our cars, but it would be nice to see these boats make some real power!

guspech750

07-31-2011, 08:20 PM

How about mounting the turbos behind the fog lights or even use the fog light openings as air intake.

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MOTOWN

07-31-2011, 08:28 PM

How about mounting the turbos behind the fog lights or even use the fog light openings as air intake.

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Thats a good idea! i just wonder how the heat would effect the bumper cover

guspech750

07-31-2011, 08:44 PM

Since the turbo would be hiden in there. Wrap it and what ever pipes that are out of sight with header wrap.
Just guessing.

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mcgyver59

07-31-2011, 09:28 PM

Mounting the turbos is the simplest part of the job. Finding a spot for the 3" + downpipes to exit to the back is the challenge.

Kennyrauder

07-31-2011, 09:39 PM

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 09:47 PM

How about mounting the turbos behind the fog lights or even use the fog light openings as air intake.

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the open area behind the cover is youre friend could even trim a few inches of rebar on each side and for the heat they have that matting looks like aluminum foil but thicker but just wouldnt want them to low.rains and streets are misty??
As for my car I have batt in trunk and on the lft side is Icebox/resv for blower and on other side is air tube and large cone filter so basically mine would have a ton of room on each side. I think him & I might have come up with the solution for crossmeber issue which has always been the biggest problem.More then anything I just think it would be nice to have another option for are cars. Everyones car is diff in some way this could just mix it up even more. Personally I think he should make a turbo with a size that can work well thru diff power levels so you can adjust boost say as u upgrade other things not sure its possible or if it would cause lag in certain rpm's its gonna be interesting to see what he comes up with and with price thats win or fail.

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 09:50 PM

Since the turbo would be hiden in there. Wrap it and what ever pipes that are out of sight with header wrap.
Just guessing.

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If I do one on my car I would plan to ceramic coat all pipes and wrap every dang part of tubing I can for double ins to keep from one of the biggest problems with a turbo excessive heat.

BODYMAN

07-31-2011, 09:53 PM

We will never be happy with what we have...... BUT I AM.... i MAKE 425 rwp and enjoy my Marauder everyday.2003 with 50 k on the clock. PS I intimidate ricer's & corvettes on numerous occations. Signed Happy Camper.... Kennyrauder.

Iam very happy with my 04SB its just the addict problem I have dealt with since a very young man.:beer: Even if I dont do one it would be cool to see others

FormulaMarauder

08-01-2011, 05:39 AM

Heres my post from last month, with pics of fab's work.
http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71901

LANDY

08-01-2011, 06:15 AM

Heres my post from last month, with pics of fab's work.
http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71901sweet, any progress yet?

BODYMAN

08-01-2011, 07:44 AM

Heres my post from last month, with pics of fab's work.
http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71901

Hey Paul, did ya see I made a post for ya a few days ago inquiring as to if you have gotten any further on youre project?

Dennis Reinhart

08-01-2011, 10:53 AM

Yes there was a turbo kit made for the Marauder. The place that made them went out of business. Probably cause the kit cost close to 7k. And now adays the kits are very hard to find and pricey or incomplete if you do find one.

The kit that was sold way really not that a quality fit, the pipes were awfull there was no room for a large air cleaner, unless done right it is going to bake every thing under the hood but it could be done right if you have DEEP pockets/

NTHE10s

08-01-2011, 11:27 AM

Brian, I have only heard of the prob on the 1000

Hey Guys, just a FYI A1000 are not good for Daily Driver or anything over 10 miles a day. I had two A1000 and they both gave me issues and overheated. I went to RacePartSolution and got a MagnaFuel 750(two yrs and still driving 60miles a day in the 10sec Vic)

carry on..
Rich
OH! TURBO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO :burn:

BODYMAN

08-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Hey Guys, just a FYI A1000 are not good for Daily Driver or anything over 10 miles a day. I had two A1000 and they both gave me issues and overheated. I went to RacePartSolution and got a MagnaFuel 750(two yrs and still driving 60miles a day in the 10sec Vic)

carry on..
Rich
OH! TURBO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO :burn:

+1 on that Rich since the heat set in Ive talked to 2 people with them that had a problem. This heats seems be starting to take its toll on stuff

Dennis is correct if you dont set up a Turbo correctly and make considerations for certain things (1 being excessive heat build up). Something that looks great and does good, may in time be slow cooking itself. say like 2 months later you start finding things wrong in engine compartment look at them real close good chance they been cooked. Seen it before it isnt purty There are many things to be considered while exploring the turbo option. it is a different animal then S/C. To say it cant be done though?

FordNut

08-01-2011, 04:35 PM

massacre

08-02-2011, 07:20 AM

^^^ Great point.
Even though remote mounting isn't optimal, it does help with the heat.....

BODYMAN

08-02-2011, 12:04 PM

I think you gotta do something to take care of the lubricant. Either mount them high so the oil drains out after the engine is shut off or use some kind of pump with a timer if they are mounted low. Otherwise they cook the oil that is sitting still in them at shutdown.

Good question What this guy has on his 2 turbo cars is standalone system It has a pump that puts out but also has draw on it how his works is the both working when pump is on then once he shuts the car off there is a valve that shuts so no more is pumped in but the pump runs for a additional 4-5 secs to get if not all around 85% oil out of the turbo itself. But there again more stuff more$ Like u said if T is higher may not need. I have yet to find time to sit down with him but plan to next few days.. Also curious what Fromula Marauder has come up with on his deal.

NTHE10s

08-02-2011, 01:24 PM

+1 on that Rich since the heat set in Ive talked to 2 people with them that had a problem. This heats seems be starting to take its toll on stuff

Dennis is correct if you dont set up a Turbo correctly and make considerations for certain things (1 being excessive heat build up). Something that looks great and does good, may in time be slow cooking itself. say like 2 months later you start finding things wrong in engine compartment look at them real close good chance they been cooked. Seen it before it isnt purty There are many things to be considered while exploring the turbo option. it is a different animal then S/C. To say it cant be done though?

Yeah, the A1000's are junk!! The other issue that i see you guys talking about is heat build up? as long as the turbo exhaust housing and down pipe are wrap or coated it will be fine. I have yet to have a issue with parts do to heat. Along with a few other guys i know with twin turbo Mustangs under the hood.

Also on a Single turbo you do need 3.5" plus down pipes but on a twin turbo system 2.5" work great. unless you are running 76mm twin turbo system. a twin 70mm with 2.5" down pipes i have seen put down 900RWHP on a 4V so i know it works.

Rich