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Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 10:58 AM
After a few years of wanting them I finally placed the order with Stainless works for the catted long tube setup a week ago and received them on Friday.
I also picked up the Lokar dipstick and the stage 8 locking bolts from Summit and had them within 2 days.
I was going to install these myself over the weekend, but the shop who installed my engine said they will install the headers for me for $150-$200 labor. :banana2:(I don't think they have any clue what they are in for. :D)

I'm dropping the car off tonight and will pick it up tomorrow after work.
Im expecting to set off car alarms and scare little children along with knocking a few tenths off my ET with the new setup. ;)

vkirkend
08-01-2011, 11:02 AM
SWEET!!!! Pipes after cats?

slickster
08-01-2011, 11:02 AM
so do you have 2.5 inch exhaust to match

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 11:03 AM
No, factory mid-pipe which I'll upgrade later on down the road with a 2.5 X pipe or H pipe depending on who I go with.

ctrlraven
08-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Eh, I'll still be louder until you get the rest of your exhaust done. lol

Papillon
08-01-2011, 11:36 AM
After a few years of wanting them I finally placed the order with Stainless works for the catted long tube setup a week ago and received them on Friday.
I also picked up the Lokar dipstick and the stage 8 locking bolts from Summit and had them within 2 days.
I was going to install these myself over the weekend, but the shop who installed my engine said they will install the headers for me for $150-$200 labor. :banana2:(I don't think they have any clue what they are in for. :D)

I'm dropping the car off tonight and will pick it up tomorrow after work.
Im expecting to set off car alarms and scare little children along with knocking a few tenths off my ET with the new setup. ;)

Can't wait! I think I'm more excited that you are! :banana:


Eh, I'll still be louder until you get the rest of your exhaust done. lol


Louder maybe... But not necessarily faster :D :baaa:

ctrlraven
08-01-2011, 11:41 AM
Louder maybe... But not necessarily faster :D :baaa:
I'm still faster until he beats my record and I'm still awaiting to have a professional driveablity tune done. :P

DOOM
08-01-2011, 11:41 AM
Im expecting to set off car alarms and scare little children along with knocking a few tenths off my ET with the new setup. ;)

Welcome to my world! :D :lol:

:congrats: on the new power! You'll love it!

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 11:46 AM
I'm still faster until he beats my record and I'm still awaiting to have a professional driveablity tune done. :P

MV-9 sir. This is probably the only upgrade I'll have done til we meet on the track. If everything runs fine then Ill leave my tune, if I get issues, Ill have to get it tweaked before then.

ctrlraven
08-01-2011, 11:49 AM
MV-9 sir. This is probably the only upgrade I'll have done til we meet on the track. If everything runs fine then Ill leave my tune, if I get issues, Ill have to get it tweaked before then.
Likewise (as an upgrade - tune). I'm still going to try and make MV-9 but won't know till Sept for sure.

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 11:52 AM
Likewise (as an upgrade - tune). I'm still going to try and make MV-9 but won't know till Sept for sure.

If you can't make it, we'll have to do a track meet somewhere. The cooler weather should make a big difference in our ETs.

DOOM
08-01-2011, 12:00 PM
Go with OEM gaskets.

babbage
08-01-2011, 01:15 PM
After a few years of wanting them I finally placed the order with Stainless works for the catted long tube setup a week ago and received them on Friday.
I also picked up the Lokar dipstick and the stage 8 locking bolts from Summit and had them within 2 days.
I was going to install these myself over the weekend, but the shop who installed my engine said they will install the headers for me for $150-$200 labor. :banana2:(I don't think they have any clue what they are in for. :D)

I'm dropping the car off tonight and will pick it up tomorrow after work.
Im expecting to set off car alarms and scare little children along with knocking a few tenths off my ET with the new setup. ;)

Congrats. It took me 14 hours -- even with all of the tips and advice that I got from members here.

Lockar and stage 8 are nice parts to have. Save your old cats. (4) are worth $200 cash.

Should be good for 0.5 in the quarter. Think you can run 12's now? :)
Wheres Glenn? :P

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Should be good for 0.5 in the quarter. Think you can run 12's now? :)
Wheres Glenn? :P

The good news is that the manifolds have been off the engine within the last 3K miles so everything should come right out, the bad news is hoping that the steering shaft isn't going to be a issue.

I wish .5 in the 1/4!

Joe Walsh
08-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Congrats Paul!

You will love the sound and the power of the LTs.

Like Jake said...re-use the layered stainless steel OEM header gaskets.

BTW: The factory midpipe is only 2" diameter so you will be choking off a lot of high end HP.

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 02:07 PM
Congrats Paul!

You will love the sound and the power of the LTs.

Like Jake said...re-use the layered stainless steel OEM header gaskets.

BTW: The factory midpipe is only 2" diameter so you will be choking off a lot of high end HP.

I know, this purchase took a chunk out of my car budget, maybe new mid pipe later on this year or spring time.

The gaskets are new so we will re-use them, and all new bolts with new dipstick. This was the latest batch from SW so I hope no steering shaft rubbing!

Krytin
08-01-2011, 02:14 PM
Universal Exhaust in Port Jeff Station made 2 1/2" mid/H pipes for me when they installed the Magnaflow straight pipes.... er... I mean mufflers, yeah, that's it mufflers, yeah...


Good luck w/the installation!!

ImpalaSlayer
08-01-2011, 02:33 PM
i used the stock hardware and gaskets. the oem stuff is good stuff.

robertmee
08-01-2011, 02:55 PM
Cool....I too just placed my order for Long Tube SW headers....I went sans cats and instead ordered the Magnaflow High Flow Cats and X-tube.

Can someone clue me in on the need for the lokar dipstick tube (is this a clearance issue) and the locking bolts (??)

justbob
08-01-2011, 03:05 PM
Very jealous over here! I tried to hit the checkout button numerous times but was just too scared about the future of work where I am at..

I think I will just order up the pacesetters on ebay for $250 and heat tape them for now.

Sent from my Ally using Tapatalk

DEFYANT
08-01-2011, 03:32 PM
You will love the new sound! Are you replacing the pipes after the mufflers - over axle to the tips? I'm not sure what diameter you're going with, but you don't want to keep the smaller pipes if you run the larger ones from the headers.

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 03:51 PM
Can someone clue me in on the need for the lokar dipstick tube (is this a clearance issue) and the locking bolts (??)
Header bolts have a tendency to vibrate loose and cause exhaust leaks, the locking bolts prevent that and keep them tight. The Lokar dipstick just eliminates the need to bend and fight with the stock tube during the installation. Plus it looks nicer.


i used the stock hardware and gaskets. the oem stuff is good stuff.

Same here, absolute best.


You will love the new sound! Are you replacing the pipes after the mufflers - over axle to the tips? I'm not sure what diameter you're going with, but you don't want to keep the smaller pipes if you run the larger ones from the headers.

The pipes to the mufflers are 2" and coming out of the mufflers over the axle is 2.5 from the factory. Ill just need to have a pipe made up from the headers to the mufflers.


Universal Exhaust in Port Jeff Station made 2 1/2" mid/H pipes for me when they installed the Magnaflow straight pipes.... er... I mean mufflers, yeah, that's it mufflers, yeah...


Good luck w/the installation!!

Did they get it hot so they knew where to position the cross tube in the H pipe? I heard that you can loose power if its not installed in the right spot. I do want a H pipe more then anything. That's the classic Hot Rod guy in me but I know the X pipe makes more power.
I'm not doing the install. If it only costs $200 to prevent me busting my knuckles for a few hours, Its well worth paying the man!

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Very jealous over here! I tried to hit the checkout button numerous times but was just too scared about the future of work where I am at..

My GF can back me up, I filled out the form and then just kept my finger hovering over the enter key second guessing my decision. This went on 3 times over the course of a week before I just said the hell with it and submitted my order.

I just dropped off my car tonight so no looking back now. ;)

Krytin
08-01-2011, 04:22 PM
The X-pipe only makes a few more HP over the H-pipe and it does it at a higher peak - think Naz intake!
The guys who made it up were the guys who made headers and x-pipes for Kooks before Kooks left Bayshore/Long Island.

FordNut
08-01-2011, 04:39 PM
I've thought about upgrading from Kooks to SW, but not sure if the power increase would be worth the expense.

Blackened300a
08-01-2011, 04:48 PM
The X-pipe only makes a few more HP over the H-pipe and it does it at a higher peak - think Naz intake!
The guys who made it up were the guys who made headers and x-pipes for Kooks before Kooks left Bayshore/Long Island.

You may be hearing from me in the very near future for a phone number and address. ;)


I've thought about upgrading from Kooks to SW, but not sure if the power increase would be worth the expense.

You can sell your Kooks and offset the price of the SW kit.

BlkMamba24
08-01-2011, 05:49 PM
I'm thinking bout getting the SW setup too with aeroturbine mufflers....I can't wait, looking foward to hearing yours:D

RacerX
08-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Remember, the larger pipes are important coming out of the block, but, do not need to be large all the way to the mufflers. As the exhaust gases cool, they shrink/contract quite a bit.

MOTOWN
08-01-2011, 06:00 PM
Im also saving for the complete stailessworks exhaust, nice upgrade!

DEFYANT
08-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Remember, the larger pipes are important coming out of the block, but, do not need to be large all the way to the mufflers. As the exhaust gases cool, they shrink/contract quite a bit.

There is zero hp / tq increase with this mod. But, unless you like cabin drone, cut out the old, smaller, non mandrel bent pipes, and let the loudness get out as fast as possible! And, for good measure, if your fabricator is good, he can clean up the rear view by tucking those pipes up and out of site - unlike the stock pipes that hang low.

It amazes me how some will dump thousands on exhaust mods alone, and over look this simple part of the exhaust. I know, I did for a long time. And what a difference completing the system made.

Papillon
08-01-2011, 07:15 PM
My GF can back me up, I filled out the form and then just kept my finger hovering over the enter key second guessing my decision. This went on 3 times over the course of a week before I just said the hell with it and submitted my order.

This is true. I got home from work to find him sitting in front of the computer, credit card on the desk and hand on the mouse. But he couldn't pull the trigger. I even offered to hit the check out button, until he finally did it.

I'm excited to see how it sounds & performs.

RacerX
08-01-2011, 07:21 PM
This is true. I got home from work to find him sitting in front of the computer, credit card on the desk and hand on the mouse. But he couldn't pull the trigger. I even offered to hit the check out button, until he finally did it.

I'm excited to see how it sounds & performs.
See, I would have messed with him and popped the enter key off the keyboard after the second time. Just for fun! :D

SC Cheesehead
08-01-2011, 07:37 PM
Good stuff, Paul! :up:

1stMerc
08-01-2011, 08:12 PM
My GF can back me up, I filled out the form and then just kept my finger hovering over the enter key second guessing my decision. This went on 3 times over the course of a week before I just said the hell with it and submitted my order.

I just dropped off my car tonight so no looking back now. ;)

Hell, i'm still at that stage.

TAKEDOWN
08-01-2011, 08:14 PM
Enjoy it Baby!

ctrlraven
08-01-2011, 08:27 PM
There is zero hp / tq increase with this mod. But, unless you like cabin drone, cut out the old, smaller, non mandrel bent pipes, and let the loudness get out as fast as possible! And, for good measure, if your fabricator is good, he can clean up the rear view by tucking those pipes up and out of site - unlike the stock pipes that hang low.

It amazes me how some will dump thousands on exhaust mods alone, and over look this simple part of the exhaust. I know, I did for a long time. And what a difference completing the system made.
100% correct. Greg "malibuguy" at MBS made sure of that with every one that has gone there.

TAKEDOWN
08-01-2011, 08:31 PM
LocalBoy called me out on it during the drama group buy, i was so back and forth about it, but I'm glad I did it!

MMBLUE
08-01-2011, 08:34 PM
Eh, I'll still be louder until you get the rest of your exhaust done. lol

Prolly not louder than me. I got long tubes with thrust. Loud as a mother.

RocsMerc
08-01-2011, 10:08 PM
Paul, if your looking for a mid-pipe you can hack up and weld in, I have a used prochamber mid-pipe from an 02 mustang gt taking up space in my garage that you can have. It's three separate pieces. The mid-pipe it self and two connecting pipes going from the stock manifolds to the mid-pipe. I assume you would use just the mid-pipe piece.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_20110802_010326.jpg

Blackened300a
08-02-2011, 04:17 AM
There is zero hp / tq increase with this mod.

Which mod are you reffering to? LT headers or modifing the pipes?


Paul, if your looking for a mid-pipe you can hack up and weld in,

Thanks Rocco, I think Ill have a exhaust shop fabricate something custom when I get the cash up.

SC Cheesehead
08-02-2011, 05:52 AM
Paul, if your looking for a mid-pipe you can hack up and weld in, I have a used prochamber mid-pipe from an 02 mustang gt taking up space in my garage that you can have. It's three separate pieces. The mid-pipe it self and two connecting pipes going from the stock manifolds to the mid-pipe. I assume you would use just the mid-pipe piece.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_20110802_010326.jpg

Mac Pro-Chamber FTW, I love mine! :up:

Mr. Man
08-02-2011, 08:05 AM
This is true. I got home from work to find him sitting in front of the computer, credit card on the desk and hand on the mouse. But he couldn't pull the trigger. I even offered to hit the check out button, until he finally did it.

I'm excited to see how it sounds & performs.
A true GF would have said "Here honey use my CC and consider it my present to you for just being a terrific BF".....but Nooooooooo!:D:P

Papillon
08-02-2011, 08:17 AM
A true GF would have said "Here honey use my CC and consider it my present to you for just being a terrific BF".....but Nooooooooo!:D:P


And a TRUE bf would have bought his gf her OWN Marauder for her birthday last week but Nooooooo! :P :P :P

Mr. Man
08-02-2011, 08:32 AM
He did! I saw it 1/64 scale. Did he forget to wrap it up:shake::lol:

Blackened300a
08-02-2011, 09:10 AM
A true GF would have said "Here honey use my CC and consider it my present to you for just being a terrific BF".....but Nooooooooo!:D:P

I know right??! ^^^^I approve of this post^^^^


And a TRUE bf would have bought his gf her OWN Marauder for her birthday last week but Nooooooo! :P :P :P

See post below


He did! I saw it 1/64 scale. Did he forget to wrap it up:shake::lol:

Thanks for ruining the surprise!!! :argue: :D

rayjay
08-02-2011, 09:41 AM
Congrats Paul! Thats a hell of a deal on the install.

Papillon
08-02-2011, 09:45 AM
And a TRUE bf would have bought his gf her OWN Marauder for her birthday last week but Nooooooo! :P :P :P


He did! I saw it 1/64 scale. Did he forget to wrap it up:shake::lol:


Thanks for ruining the surprise!!! :argue: :D



Booo..... :depress:..... :alone:

Haggis
08-02-2011, 09:56 AM
BooBooBear...:lovies2:

***Fixed***

DOOM
08-02-2011, 10:09 AM
Did you get them jet hot coated?

Blackened300a
08-02-2011, 10:11 AM
Did you get them jet hot coated?

No, I'll have to deal with some blue pipes and then polished them out every now and then.

Mr. Man
08-02-2011, 12:45 PM
Thanks for ruining the surprise!!! :argue: :DUm her birthday anniversary was like a month ago dude.:shake: Your in deep voodoo my friend No "soup" for you 1 year!:bigcry:

Blackened300a
08-02-2011, 04:03 PM
It seems that the "2 hour" install time came and went. :D

They pulled the car on the lift at 12 and when I showed up at 4pm, they had the cats and the mid pipe removed but the manifolds were still on the engine. I was there til about 5:30 and they had both manifolds off and one header installed. The mechanic was taking his time with everything and was very particular how he placed and installed everything so I can't complain in the least.
Chris said he'll have the car finished tomorrow morning so Ill have it after work.
He even said that he will not charge anymore then the agreed install price. :bows:

Smalldogg/03mm
08-02-2011, 04:07 PM
No mod means a new "burn out!!!!"... It's only fair to the car...

Krytin
08-02-2011, 04:16 PM
Very Good!
It was United Exhaust Shop II
1575 Rt. 112
Suite D
Pt. Jeff Station
631-474-0010

Blackened300a
08-02-2011, 04:18 PM
No mod means a new "burn out!!!!"... It's only fair to the car...

There shall be video and pictures very soon. ;)


Very Good!
It was United Exhaust Shop II
1575 Rt. 112
Suite D
Pt. Jeff Station
631-474-0010

Thanks Paul, let me re-coup a little before I take the next step.

jsignorelli
08-02-2011, 05:08 PM
I did the entire SW long tube job in March of this year. You will need a dyno tune as the computer will go crazy. It is well worth it. The speed shop I use with my Mustangs gave me a flat $ 150.00 price. It took him 2 hours. You really need a lift for this.
Be careful of the driver side tubes hitting the steering shaft. It requires a little coaxing with a breaker bar. The Lokar oil stick is madatory. Good luck and congrats. You will love the sound and performance. I ran the car this May at VIR for the SAAC 36 convention. She did well on the 4.5 mile road course.

SpartaPerformance
08-02-2011, 05:21 PM
No, I'll have to deal with some blue pipes and then polished them out every now and then.

I don't think so, I believe SW should be 304SS, my ARH headers don't have any "blueing" at all I don't see why SW's would.

You better bring the car to Texas Road house Thursday

Blackened300a
08-03-2011, 03:08 AM
I don't think so, I believe SW should be 304SS, my ARH headers don't have any "blueing" at all I don't see why SW's would.

You better bring the car to Texas Road house Thursday

I'll be there with it and a camera. ;)

hwy73
08-03-2011, 02:59 PM
My GF can back me up, I filled out the form and then just kept my finger hovering over the enter key second guessing my decision. This went on 3 times over the course of a week before I just said the hell with it and submitted my order.




This is true. I got home from work to find him sitting in front of the computer, credit card on the desk and hand on the mouse. But he couldn't pull the trigger. I even offered to hit the check out button, until he finally did it.

Mr. Man
08-03-2011, 03:20 PM
So how'd it go? Are you speedier?

Blackened300a
08-03-2011, 04:29 PM
Picked the car up and had a few little issues to work out. I wasn't happy with the way they routed the Lokar dipstick so I had them remove it and re-route it, which promptly pulled itself out when I got the car home,(I plan on taking care of this myself) they had a hard time getting the EGR valve to line up so in the process of installing it, they broke my EGR valve that I can hear air escaping from the diaphragm at idle. Its also the reason why with the AC on, my idle hangs up for a few seconds and then settles down, they didn't install the locks on the header bolts, he told me to come back and he will install them. I think the passenger side already has a slight leak, Im picking up the faint ticking sound from that side. Also when making a left turn, the shaft rubs on the header. We will shim the engine a 1/4" to prevent that from touching.

Unrelated to the install, my belt tensioner just started making noise, and I had to tap on my BCM to get my AC going. My shop said they will replace the EGR for me, shim the engine and install the locks this weekend so no worries. He stands by his work and is a good guy so I'm not annoyed or upset in any way.

Now to the good stuff, the sound is completely different, ITS LOUD!!! Its similar to a old school pushrod engine under heavy throttle. Those cherry bomb mufflers Im running really bring the classic sound out of the headers. Its raining here so any attempt at a heavy throttle results in spinning tires and drifting around turns, I managed to get one WOT run from a roll with traction and I can't really confirm if I feel a difference or not. Between the humidity here and a leaking EGR, Ill have to see what it does when its repaired and on a clear day.

Once I get all the minor bugs cleared up, Ill be sure to take plenty of video. :burnout:

Marauderman
08-03-2011, 04:48 PM
Picked the car up and had a few little issues to work out. I wasn't happy with the way they routed the Lokar dipstick so I had them remove it and re-route it, which promptly pulled itself out when I got the car home,(I plan on taking care of this myself) they had a hard time getting the EGR valve to line up so in the process of installing it, they broke my EGR valve that I can hear air escaping from the diaphragm at idle. Its also the reason why with the AC on, my idle hangs up for a few seconds and then settles down, they didn't install the locks on the header bolts, he told me to come back and he will install them. I think the passenger side already has a slight leak, Im picking up the faint ticking sound from that side. Also when making a left turn, the shaft rubs on the header. We will shim the engine a 1/4" to prevent that from touching.

Unrelated to the install, my belt tensioner just started making noise, and I had to tap on my BCM to get my AC going. My shop said they will replace the EGR for me, shim the engine and install the locks this weekend so no worries. He stands by his work and is a good guy so I'm not annoyed or upset in any way.

Now to the good stuff, the sound is completely different, ITS LOUD!!! Its similar to a old school pushrod engine under heavy throttle. Those cherry bomb mufflers Im running really bring the classic sound out of the headers. Its raining here so any attempt at a heavy throttle results in spinning tires and drifting around turns, I managed to get one WOT run from a roll with traction and I can't really confirm if I feel a difference or not. Between the humidity here and a leaking EGR, Ill have to see what it does when its repaired and on a clear day.

Once I get all the minor bugs cleared up, Ill be sure to take plenty of video. :burnout:

Seems great Paul--hope all works out--we need to compare sounds ---I myself went with shorty headers and then enlarged my pipes to 2 1/2 to 3"
to the rear w/o restriction and loss 2 cats----normally can hear me before you see me situation--I suppose like you--anyway--glad you got some improvements--its so much fun--you will see --and feel--!! Tom

Ms. Denmark
08-03-2011, 05:35 PM
You going to bring the MM to Harrisburg next week?

Blackened300a
08-03-2011, 06:15 PM
You going to bring the MM to Harrisburg next week?

Nope. Fusion for the long trips. Better on gas and no worries. ;)

Ms. Denmark
08-03-2011, 06:27 PM
Nope. Fusion for the long trips. Better on gas and no worries. ;)
24 mpg in the MM isn't bad! No MM in Harrisburg headers didn't happen;)

Blackened300a
08-03-2011, 06:29 PM
24 mpg in the MM isn't bad! No MM in Harrisburg headers didn't happen;)

You'll have to take my word for it. Plus you're getting 24mpg on a basically stock Marauder. Im a bit beyond stock at this point, the gas gauge proves that. :D

Papillon
08-03-2011, 06:30 PM
Picked the car up and had a few little issues to work out. I wasn't happy with the way they routed the Lokar dipstick so I had them remove it and re-route it, which promptly pulled itself out when I got the car home,(I plan on taking care of this myself) they had a hard time getting the EGR valve to line up so in the process of installing it, they broke my EGR valve that I can hear air escaping from the diaphragm at idle. Its also the reason why with the AC on, my idle hangs up for a few seconds and then settles down, they didn't install the locks on the header bolts, he told me to come back and he will install them. I think the passenger side already has a slight leak, Im picking up the faint ticking sound from that side. Also when making a left turn, the shaft rubs on the header. We will shim the engine a 1/4" to prevent that from touching.

Unrelated to the install, my belt tensioner just started making noise, and I had to tap on my BCM to get my AC going. My shop said they will replace the EGR for me, shim the engine and install the locks this weekend so no worries. He stands by his work and is a good guy so I'm not annoyed or upset in any way.

Now to the good stuff, the sound is completely different, ITS LOUD!!! Its similar to a old school pushrod engine under heavy throttle. Those cherry bomb mufflers Im running really bring the classic sound out of the headers. Its raining here so any attempt at a heavy throttle results in spinning tires and drifting around turns, I managed to get one WOT run from a roll with traction and I can't really confirm if I feel a difference or not. Between the humidity here and a leaking EGR, Ill have to see what it does when its repaired and on a clear day.

Once I get all the minor bugs cleared up, Ill be sure to take plenty of video . :burnout:


VERY loud!!!! I LOVE IT!!! :lovies: :burnout:

Blackened300a
08-07-2011, 02:20 PM
Due to the constant rain fall here, I was only able to take a quick sample vid of the exhaust.
Ill have more when I can hit the road and open it up. ;)
rU9B3f6Vi6s

babbage
08-08-2011, 09:24 AM
Picked the car up and had a few little issues to work out. I wasn't happy with the way they routed the Lokar dipstick so I had them remove it and re-route it, which promptly pulled itself out when I got the car home,(I plan on taking care of this myself) they had a hard time getting the EGR valve to line up so in the process of installing it, they broke my EGR valve that I can hear air escaping from the diaphragm at idle. Its also the reason why with the AC on, my idle hangs up for a few seconds and then settles down, they didn't install the locks on the header bolts, he told me to come back and he will install them. I think the passenger side already has a slight leak, Im picking up the faint ticking sound from that side. Also when making a left turn, the shaft rubs on the header. We will shim the engine a 1/4" to prevent that from touching.

Unrelated to the install, my belt tensioner just started making noise, and I had to tap on my BCM to get my AC going. My shop said they will replace the EGR for me, shim the engine and install the locks this weekend so no worries. He stands by his work and is a good guy so I'm not annoyed or upset in any way.

Now to the good stuff, the sound is completely different, ITS LOUD!!! Its similar to a old school pushrod engine under heavy throttle. Those cherry bomb mufflers Im running really bring the classic sound out of the headers. Its raining here so any attempt at a heavy throttle results in spinning tires and drifting around turns, I managed to get one WOT run from a roll with traction and I can't really confirm if I feel a difference or not. Between the humidity here and a leaking EGR, Ill have to see what it does when its repaired and on a clear day.

Once I get all the minor bugs cleared up, Ill be sure to take plenty of video. :burnout:


I had a ***** of a time getting my EGR pipe back on. There is a thick cable trunk in the rear of the engine. EGR pipe is an easier fit if cable trunk is outside of the EGR pipe. I used a good amount of aluminum foil around it to protect cable from heat.

Trick is to thread on the top pipe a bit, then loosen the EGR bolts, then go under and thread the pipe onto the bung - then tighten EGR bolts.

Look for carbon deposits around header flange if you suspect leaks. Also tighten the bolts down after a few hundred miles, then put the locks on them. The stage 8 bolt locks are tricky to put on.

Also: with headers you should get better mileage. Mine gets an actual 22.5 MPG highway at 80-85 with a few WOT runs here and there.

If you get a muffled X pipe you'll delete raspyness. I get zero snap, crackle, pop...

When are you going for dynotune?

Blackened300a
08-08-2011, 10:34 AM
I had a ***** of a time getting my EGR pipe back on. There is a thick cable trunk in the rear of the engine. EGR pipe is an easier fit if cable trunk is outside of the EGR pipe. I used a good amount of aluminum foil around it to protect cable from heat.

Which cable do you mean? The main engine harness?

Trick is to thread on the top pipe a bit, then loosen the EGR bolts, then go under and thread the pipe onto the bung - then tighten EGR bolts.

Thats how they installed it the first time which resulted in it being very loose. They couldnt get enough thread in to put it in and tight. We removed it probably 6 or 7 times to bend it with heat to get it to thread and fit properly.

Look for carbon deposits around header flange if you suspect leaks. Also tighten the bolts down after a few hundred miles, then put the locks on them. The stage 8 bolt locks are tricky to put on.

Yeah they are super tricky to put on. I may replace with the allen key insert style like my friend has on his SuperCoupe. No leaks at all no ticks or deposits. I romped on the car a few times and took a pretty decent drive and looked very carefully around the flange.

Also: with headers you should get better mileage. Mine gets an actual 22.5 MPG highway at 80-85 with a few WOT runs here and there.

I just got the engine running 100% on Saturday and I really havent had a chance to see how the mileage is yet. Tonight Ill take a video of what it sounds like under a load.

If you get a muffled X pipe you'll delete raspyness. I get zero snap, crackle, pop...

Im a fan of muscle car H pipes so I'm digging the sound. I may go with a set of OEM resonated tips to clean it up a bit.

When are you going for dynotune?

My tuner is booked til late November so not anytime soon. My last dyno tune was with the spaz intake and a stock exhaust. My exhaust tips would get a hint of soot after the tune with that intake, I then replaced it with my stock intake and I was getting a lot of soot on the tips. Now after the header install, Im getting a slight hint again. Im not rich and its not lean also no pinging at WOT so I'm pretty good now. I'll get it tuned when I get the mid pipe finished so it will be a one shot deal.


Video later on. ;)

Krytin
08-08-2011, 01:00 PM
Everything sounding good Paul!!

Mr. Man
08-08-2011, 01:11 PM
Bet a good long trip to say....Harrisburg Pa would give you a good indication of MPG's and give you a good long listen to everything and make sure all is going according to plan. :)

Blackened300a
08-08-2011, 03:05 PM
Bet a good long trip to say....Harrisburg Pa would give you a good indication of MPG's and give you a good long listen to everything and make sure all is going according to plan. :)

I'd rather get a good indication within the general location of my towing connection should the unexpected arise. ;)

Plus $50 in the tank of the Fusion covers the ride up, the entire weekend and gets me home. $50 in the Marauder would get me there and then force me to fill it back up before I leave on Sunday. Plus I wont have to deal with the front of the Marauder being blasted by bugs both ways.

Blackened300a
08-08-2011, 05:32 PM
First the startup and rev...
rU9B3f6Vi6s

Then a video of the headers on a roll...
NPxQA-9Qr_U

Finally a slight burnout....
J5d8PNr2QaY

justbob
08-08-2011, 06:17 PM
LOL at almost pushing the isuzu OUT DA WAY!

Baconbit
08-08-2011, 06:26 PM
Hah thats great man...I'm glad to see you are enjoying them...they sound great and the car is looking great...keep it up:banana2:

bhenderson
08-08-2011, 07:10 PM
Love the sound. I can't wait to do mine. Finally got the 410's in with Lidio tune last week. Next up is exhaust. What mufflers are installed and are you using resonator tips? Any interior noise or drone?

Blackened300a
08-09-2011, 03:01 AM
What mufflers are installed and are you using resonator tips? Any interior noise or drone?

I have Cherry bomb vortex mufflers with res-delete tips. Its actually a bit less drone then my rear cat-delete setup.

Krytin
08-09-2011, 06:03 AM
Love the videos!!

Blackened300a
08-09-2011, 06:29 AM
First the startup and rev...
rU9B3f6Vi6s

Then a video of the headers on a roll...
NPxQA-9Qr_U

Finally a slight burnout....
J5d8PNr2QaY

Thanks! Ill move them to this page for those who missed them.

ctrlraven
08-09-2011, 06:29 AM
Sounds good, I've been wanting to get a roll video of mine for a very long time but never had someone to help me do it.

Papillon
08-09-2011, 06:37 AM
Sounds good, I've been wanting to get a roll video of mine for a very long time but never had someone to help me do it.


As the director of the videos, I WILL be available at MV9 if you'd like to set something up :D

Joe Walsh
08-09-2011, 02:15 PM
LMAO!!!

I love the stop light holeshot!!.....:bows:

That guy in the SUV must've thought that they were filming the remake of Bullitt!

screamn
08-09-2011, 06:22 PM
Paul your ride sounds awesome!

You'll be getting a lot of peoples attention! ;)

LOUDER IS ALWAYS BETTER....... :burnout:

slickster
08-09-2011, 07:15 PM
i hate you