need emissions help

[Motorhead350]

My car is going in for a pollution test soon. I am going to pull out the check engine light, but I know the computer will still show a problem when they hook up their computer to the car. I can clear the codes, but they are back on before I even get the car in drive.

Any suggestions to pass?

[fastblackmerc]

You want EMISSIONS help.....

Clear the codes and drive the car... I think you'll need to drive about 100 miles.

[Motorhead350]

Yeah sorry. The codes come back as soon as I clear them. The exhaust isn't hooked up to a 2003, just computer related. What would 100 miles prior to the test do? If it was related to the pollution I can see that, but what about the computer?

[fastblackmerc]

Yeah sorry. The codes come back as soon as I clear them. The exhaust isn't hooked up to a 2003, just computer related. What would 100 miles prior to the test do? If it was related to the pollution I can see that, but what about the computer?

If the codes come back as soon as you clear them you'll never pass the emissions test.

The test looks checks the computer and there needs to be enough "drive-time" after codes are cleared.

[1stMerc]

Once the problem that triggers the code is resolved the computer will take care of itself.

[Bigdogjim]

Why do expect issues with the test?

What are you NOT telling us?

[Motorhead350]

Once the problem that triggers the code is resolved the computer will take care of itself.

Yes I know that silly.

Right now all I can do is take care of the computer.

[da'law]

Dom,

What code numbers are showing?

[1stMerc]

Yes I know that silly.

Right now all I can do is take care of the computer.

How are you taking care of the computer?
As was asked what makes you think it will fail, what codes are you getting?

[Motorhead350]

I will check it later, but it keeps telling me its running rich. Plus that engine problem.

[ctrlraven]

Maybe get the problem fixed? See if you can file for emissions extension.

[Da Dark Jedi]

Hey Dom if you failed the test you can still get your "State tags" renewed. In Illinois if you fail the sheet tells you what the codes are, if your tags are expiring the state will issue a "ONE TIME" six month tag for $48.00 to keep you legal. At the end of that time YOU MUST PASS. The state will give you a year waiver only if you show written proof that you have spent over $600 at one time for the repair.

[justbob]

Dom, to give you a clue how difficult and aggravating this will be, I actually put my car back to stock last week too pass... it only took me an hour and a half! After only 5 minutes, bank 2 lean condition popped up (exaust leak at manifold/downpipe). This never showed up in my tune and the car runs nice and smooth now.

You are supposed to have 8 or 9 emission monitors fully enabled, if you have ANY of them turned off, you will fail. Remove the light? Sorry, they will still see it is throwing codes, fail again. This is a new test, and when I found out about it and checked my monitors, I only had TWO of them on!

When I get my new tune, I will be getting an emissions tune as well to avoid this problem in the future. This was just the quick and simple way out for now. I am glad I did this and found the lean condition though..

Basically, this is a world of hurt if you are not properly set up. Do you even have cats? Ask me anything emissions related, I know all the answers!
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[Joe Walsh]

Maybe get the problem fixed? See if you can file for emissions extension.

Yep,
In Maryland you can file online for an automatic 3 month extension for no additional fees....gives you a little more time to work on the problems.

As others have said, pulling the CEL bulb will only make them more suspicious.
If your codes come back instantly, you've got some major issues.

[RF Overlord]

Dom, listen to them ^^^ In most, if not all, states that have emissions testing, a CEL is an automatic fail. If you pull the bulb, their computer will still register that the PCM commanded a "MIL On" (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) and you will fail. Turning off all the I/M monitors in the tune will also fail as their computer will assume something is wrong if it cant see them.

Unfortunately, if the codes return immediately after clearing, no amount of driving will clear them and you're going to have to have them fixed.

(Unless you can find some really clever guy near you with tuning experience who can fudge something for you just long enough to get it passed... ;) )

[yjmud]

Pulling the light = instant fail that is the first step in getting the car inspected

[Da Dark Jedi]

I will check it later, but it keeps telling me its running rich. Plus that engine problem.


So what are the CODES??? Like the man said "what are you not telling"?

[Shaijack]

I really feel for you guys that have all that testing. Took Blue in for inspection yesterday (we call it brake tags) and toot horn, left and right flasher on/off, brake light, head light, lift hood. That will be $10.00, here is your tag. (sticker) Good luck Dom.

[massacre]

In my state, my car is emissions-exempt.
Lotsa people give me crap about building an older car, but the fact that I don't have to deal with any of this stuff is totally worth it.

[Bigdogjim]

You know I really would like to get Dom some help however untill he lays his cards on the table we are all like a dog chasing his tail.

If there are internal engine problems then it will fail. In New Jersey if you fail you get an extension to fix the problem. Not sure about Il.

Either way good luck come inspection day.

[Da Dark Jedi]

You know I really would like to get Dom some help however untill he lays his cards on the table we are all like a dog chasing his tail.

If there are internal engine problems then it will fail. In New Jersey if you fail you get an extension to fix the problem. Not sure about Il.

Either way good luck come inspection day.



I've given him the best way possible until he can get in touch with his favorite machanic (we know who that is). The test is free here in Illinois and for $48.00 bucks he's still ridin' legal, for six months. Still waiting for his response to what is his codes.

[Pat]

I really feel for you guys that have all that testing. Took Blue in for inspection yesterday (we call it brake tags) and toot horn, left and right flasher on/off, brake light, head light, lift hood. That will be $10.00, here is your tag. (sticker) Good luck Dom.

They lifed your hood? You must have gotten the deluxe test.

[Motorhead350]

I will read the codes today. I have an internal engine problem, that is for sure. I can probably get someone to write me up something for a waver. I know a few shops.

[Blackened300a]

In NY...
Noticable engine noise and excessive smoke is a fail, they tun the key and the CEL dont light in the run position, thats a fail. I believe you are allowed one or two moniters to not be working and still pass. Any removal of the emissions equipment is a fail. Airbag or ABS light is not a fail but they will make a report of it in the inspection. You can file for a waiver if your repair bills exceed $600.

[Da Dark Jedi]

I will read the codes today. I have an internal engine problem, that is for sure. I can probably get someone to write me up something for a waver. I know a few shops.


Dom whatever shop you use CANNOT write you a waiver. They have to fix the problem or show that you have spent $600.00 or more (parts & labor at one time) to have it resolved. When this is met you have to take the paper work back to a emission test station for them to review. But if they are willing to LIE for you and not fix the problem, then work your HUSSLE. Why are you asking for help? Pay the one time for six months fee of $48.00 and be legal.


Forgot to add the Emission test station has to issue a form that states you fail with the codes on it. They (Emissions test station) has to give you their form for your Illinois state certified repair shop to fill out and you return it to them. Not any shop will the state accept.

There is a section on the form for the DIYers to fill out if these are the shop your taking it to.

[Motorhead350]

[QUOTE=Da Dark Jedi;1080943]But if they are willing to LIE for you and not fix the problem, then work your HUSSLE. Why are you asking for?


I wanted to know if I could do it myself before I go to 159th street.

Codes are as follows...

P0108 P0190 P0403 and P0406

I will look up what they mean. Wonder if I can do anything about these and by that I mean actually fix the issues.

[Spectragod]

[QUOTE=Da Dark Jedi;1080943]But if they are willing to LIE for you and not fix the problem, then work your HUSSLE. Why are you asking for?


I wanted to know if I could do it myself before I go to 159th street.

Codes are as follows...

P0108 P0190 P0403 and P0406

I will look up what they mean. Wonder if I can do anything about these and by that I mean actually fix the issues.


http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/

[1stMerc]

Judging by those codes, looks like you got your work cut out for ya Dom.

The P0403 and P0406 may be just a bad diaphragm.

[Bigdogjim]

I agree fix the train wreck. We all breath the same air. Stop killing us:)

Get legal. This is the price you pay for putting tons of miles on a vehicle.

You got to maintain 'em, it's all part of a master plan. (pay to play)

Find out what the noise is in engine compartment, and deal with it!

I would hate to read about a epic engine failure at normal highway speed.

Stop pushing the odds, it's a game you can not aford to play.

[Da Dark Jedi]

All he has to do is call "His HERO" aka Zack or heaven forbid JB (I know leave me out of this s***). The problem will be solved Emissions PASS. Remember the thread "Zacks master plan for me". He is maintaining the vehicle, the engine has less miles than other coponents. We're just here to add pages to the thread. LOL

[Joe Walsh]

In NY...
Noticable engine noise and excessive TIRE smoke is a fail,

Then DOOMie would fail inspection in NY!.....:D

[Motorhead350]

I agree fix the train wreck. We all breath the same air. Stop killing us:)

Get legal. This is the price you pay for putting tons of miles on a vehicle.

You got to maintain 'em, it's all part of a master plan. (pay to play)

Find out what the noise is in engine compartment, and deal with it!

I would hate to read about a epic engine failure at normal highway speed.

Stop pushing the odds, it's a game you can not aford to play.

This was due to a bad tune and drag racing.


All he has to do is call "His HERO" aka Zack or heaven forbid JB (I know leave me out of this s***). The problem will be solved Emissions PASS. Remember the thread "Zacks master plan for me". He is maintaining the vehicle, the engine has less miles than other coponents. We're just here to add pages to the thread. LOL

As much as I love Zack, he cannot do anything because he isn't a certified repair shop even if he's the best when it comes to Marauders. All I have to do is call up my south side friends on 157th street and have them fill out the paper work as if they did a repair. Hehe

[RF Overlord]

As much as I love Zack, he cannot do anything because he isn't a certified repair shop even if he's the best when it comes to Marauders. Dom, I may not understand the specifics of Illinois emissions law, but in MA you aren't required to take it to a certified shop for repair. You can fix the car yourself, then bring it back to the station that originally failed you and they will retest for no additional charge. If you then pass, you're done. If you fail again, then you have to pay and they put the reject sticker on.

All of those codes are things that Zack should be able to take care of without breaking a sweat.

[Motorhead350]

Dom, I may not understand the specifics of Illinois emissions law, but in MA you aren't required to take it to a certified shop for repair. You can fix the car yourself, then bring it back to the station that originally failed you and they will retest for no additional charge. If you then pass, you're done. If you fail again, then you have to pay and they put the reject sticker on.

All of those codes are things that Zack should be able to take care of without breaking a sweat.

I need a repair order for $450 saying it was to the repair. I have no interest in actually fixing the car because that means replacing the engine. I want to, but cannot at this time. Basicially just looking to get the waver and get these people outta my business.

[RF Overlord]

I have no interest in actually fixing the car Then you're on your own, brah.

[Bigdogjim]

I need a repair order for $450 saying it was to the repair. I have no interest in actually fixing the car because that means replacing the engine. I want to, but cannot at this time. Basicially just looking to get the waver and get these people outta my business.

You know with a statement like this I almost hope you get caught and spend time behind bars. Although I do not think you will ever wise up.

That is the most stupid thing you ever posted.

"Get a waver and get these people outta of my business?" Got news for Mr.Stupid evey member of MM.net and countless other car website maintains their cars with in the boundaries of the State law where they live. (or at least they are not stupid enought to post any illegal activity)

To post on public forum that YOU MR.Motorhead do not want to fix your POS and try and beat the system is just more than I can stand.:argue::help::censor::ee k::eek::eek:

Congrats I have never used the ingore list but guess what? Yep you will be my first.

Personal I think the Partners should delete your posts on this matter since you want to brake the law just becasue you think it does not apply to you.

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[gdsqdcr]

He posts about street racing and it stays uP on the site.
He posts about wanting to forge a repair order to break the law.


Wow ... Stupid. Ignore list coming but first, I think I will send this link over to the emissions board in Chicago. They might be interested in reading this thread.

Seriously, how can this site condone the illegal activities?

[Mike]

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[Motorhead350]

Go ahead a holes. Keep acting you all follow the law and always have.

Antony, you are bring up topics that have no relation to the subject. You will never admit it, but this proves that you are the one looking for trouble.

Follow the law for everything do we? Yeah right. The only difference is I am dumb enough to ask how to do it on a public form full of LEOs. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees like so many law following members. I do not bend over and follow whatever law is thrown at me like others clam. Wow simply wow.

Mr. Stupid? Is that the best you can do? An insult from Ren and Stimpy?

[MM03MOK]

Dom, you're going to do whatever you please so why even bother to ask anyone else's opinion. I think the subject has been discussed ad nauseum.