Now THIS is a Marauder in service as a Police Cruiser

[TAF]

More pics soon in the Gallery...

[TAF]

I met this morning with Capt. G.T. (Tommy) McElroy of the Doraville Police Department. I've put some pics in the Gallery of his Mercury Marauder/undercover cruiser. The "Doraville Police" markings are magnetic signs used only when the car is scheduled for pursuit rather than undercover. When not on...you'd be hard-pressed to pick it as an LEO vehicle. The light package was phenominal and hard to catch with a camera...but she lights up like a Chistmas tree. What a GREAT guy Capt. McElroy is! He had LOTS of questions and we are going to hook him up with some mods that he REALLY needs (especially after he drove mine around a little)...PCM reflash (to get rid of his speed limiter), swaybar, dead-pedal, etc. We'll get him over to Team Ford and Scott Levin for some goodies.

Hopefully Capt. McElroy will make it to this Saturday's breakfast so you can all see his cruiser.

[Bigdogjim]

Nice work Todd :banana2:

Your right take the sign off the side and bingo! Your caught :nono:

[mtnh]

Why on earth would we want to encourage LEOs to remove their speed limiters? Next thing you know, they will be getting SCT with you guys on dyno day! :banned:

Mike

[junehhan]

Don't forget to let him know that he's going to need to upgrade the driveshaft if he chooses to explore the speeds above where the factory limiter was set at! I can't wait to see what very well may be the first modded Marauder police cruiser out there! I hope you guys really hook this guy up with all the goodies he'll need! Hmmm..........


Metal matrix driveshaft
4.10 gears
anything else your imagination will allow!

[TAF]

Yep...we discussed that as well. Hopefully he'll be on here later today.

[MAD-3R]

Always good to have LEO's on your side.

[Marauder57]

You know now with the Marauders going into use as Police Vehicles....I am thinking about changing my front licences plate and putting on my Sheriffs memeber plate.....I already get mistaken for a police officer in the car....might as well use it to the max.....it is nice to have people clearing out of the way to make safe use of my Reinhart mods! :banana2:

[SHERIFF]

...PCM reflash (to get rid of his speed limiter)


Ahhh..... I would be sure to tell him not to exceed the speed rating on his tires obviously. :nono:

[gonzo50]

That's pretty clever of them Police Officers, way to go guys !

[TAF]

Ahhh..... I would be sure to tell him not to exceed the speed rating on his tires obviously. :nono:

He has the same OEM tires we Marauder owners have. They are speed rated to 168 MPH.

[SHERIFF]

Speaking of speed........... everybody check these out.............. police chase at 140+ mph...... Oklahoma Highway Patrol

http://www.azsupersport.com/videos/kfor_backroad_2.asx

http://www.azsupersport.com/videos/kfor_turner.asx

http://www.azsupersport.com/videos/kfor_catch.asx

[RedMM]

Can anyone tell for sure what kind of car that is? They mention possibly a Caddy or an Impala???? It looks like a DTR Marauder!!!! :confused:

[kurly]

More pics soon in the Gallery...

Way Cool! :cool:

[MI2QWK4U]

where is the manditory asswhoooping that should follow a chase of this nature?!

[CRUZTAKER]

Can anyone tell for sure what kind of car that is? They mention possibly a Caddy or an Impala???? It looks like a DTR Marauder!!!! :confused:

Definately an Impalla SS....after all, the motor failed :bounce:

[SHERIFF]

where is the manditory asswhoooping that should follow a chase of this nature?!


Ahh......... excuse me.... with helicopters overhead filming it all? Might as well hand the guy a blank check and tell him to fill in how many millions of dollars he would like.

Remember when the California Highway Patrol beat the immigrants and the helicopters filmed it all?

And the Texas trooper who filmed a deputy sheriff beating 3 men after he handcuffed them and had them on the ground.

They just wait until they get the guy to the jail..... then impale him with a broomstick..... like New York does. :)

[SHERIFF]

Can anyone tell for sure what kind of car that is? They mention possibly a Caddy or an Impala???? It looks like a DTR Marauder!!!! :confused:


IMHO........... it's a Cadillac STS.

[Krytin]

Can anyone tell for sure what kind of car that is? They mention possibly a Caddy or an Impala???? It looks like a DTR Marauder!!!! :confused:

I agree! Pictures of car stopped have what look like our tail lights and the badge on trunk lid!

[woaface]

At least we kind of know what to look for. It'll be black, no options like a spoiler, tinted windows, and hopefully someone will get lucky with a state government licence plate. Did that one have a state plate TAF? It's got an antenna.

So, uh...any black Marauder with an antenna is worth checking out.

Saw a blue Impala the other week on the Motor Mile here in Greenville. Looked real stock but I knew it had to be LEO just because of the window tints. Lights were IMPOSSIBLE to see, even in nice daylight, not until I pulled somewhat close to his bumper at a stop light, at that it took me almost half a minute or a minute to find them.

So, uh...anything LEO's might use, with tinted windows is worth checking out.

:cool: :) :baaa: ;)

[TAF]

At least we kind of know what to look for. It'll be black, no options like a spoiler, tinted windows, and hopefully someone will get lucky with a state government licence plate. Did that one have a state plate TAF? It's got an antenna.

I blocked out the plate 'cause it's an undercover car out of respect for Capt. McElroy.

You can see that there is just one antenna on the rear...very discreet. Sorry...I forgot to take pics of the inside (although I did get to ride in it from the back of HQ to the front next to my car)...radio units are placed on each side of the console. Other than that (and the lights which are hidden) you'd be hard-pressed to distinguish it from a regular Marauder.

[SHERIFF]

......I knew it had to be LEO just because of the window tints.

Wow, what a misconception if I have ever seen one. :) Not true. One of the tricks Crown Victoria drivers use is "tint". So people or other cops will think they are a police officer in an unmarked car. Here is a clip I cut and saved from another auto forum a while back, the wording is very obvious.......

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/843/cvnimp9.jpg

[woaface]

Wow, what a misconception if I have ever seen one. :) Not true. One of the tricks Crown Victoria drivers use is "tint". So people or other cops will think they are a police officer in an unmarked car. Here is a clip I cut and saved from another auto forum a while back, the wording is very obvious.......

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/843/cvnimp9.jpg

It was an Impala. A blue Impala with tinted windows on Laurens Road in Greenville must always raise a red flag in any drivers head. Yeah, I've seen tons of Crown Vics that aren't police cruisers that look like it. I did fail to mention about Larens Rd. Kurly may know, but that's definitely my fault:D. Laurens Rd has a section on it called "The Motor Mile" in which it's almost a mile where a huge amount of car dealers are. I know what you're sayin sheriff:D That's my bad! I guess I'll soon be one of those drivers using the "tint trick" I know what I wanna look like!

[woaface]

I can retype that a little better. My point is, in the short run, you gotta wait till you've scoped it out and you've made yourself 100% sure it's not LEO.

[SHERIFF]

I can retype that a little better. My point is, in the short run, you gotta wait till you've scoped it out and you've made yourself 100% sure it's not LEO.


Well, true. Here's how it works though..... police impersonators enjoy it when people slow down behind them, the people thinking they are a cop in an unmarked car. Once the person determines it's not a cop in an unmarked car and pass them..... the police impersonator then thinks "I will teach them, I will speed up and ride their ass, like I am a real cop pacing their speed!" So you're gonna get the full treatment one way or another. :)

If a police looking car rides your bumper at 15 feet and 75 mph, you know it's not a real cop. They would be breaking the law themselves to do so. And you can't break the law to enforce it in most circumstances. A real cop will pace you from at least 250 to 300 feet.

[VaderSS]

Can anyone tell for sure what kind of car that is? They mention possibly a Caddy or an Impala???? It looks like a DTR Marauder!!!!

It was a Dark Cherry Metallic 1996 Impala SS. They finally caught him when he ran over stop sticks.

The story is, it was stolen and was going to get pulled over for an expired tag. He ran, and ran he did. The SS is reported to have a few mods. Headers, exhaust, intake, etc... It was clocked over 160mph. It happened in early 2001.

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=230768&nav=1RL4


OKLAHOMA CITY - Oklahoma Highway Patrol (OHP) officers now have a suspect in custody after a lengthy high-speed chase that wound through the metro for about 30 minutes.

The chase started near the Intersection of Interstates-40 and 35. Speeds during the chase reached in excess of 140 mph. The suspect was originally pulled over by an Oklahoma Highway Patrol for an illegal tag.

Troopers attempted to disable the suspect's car with stop sticks as the chase continued northeast on US 66 through the town of Arcadia. The suspect was able to swerve around the sticks. The suspect then turned onto Turner Turnpike (I-44) and headed southeast back towards Oklahoma City.

The suspects high-powered car, apparently a late model maroon Chevy Impala, easily sped away from pursuing troopers on open stretches of the Interstate. After a second and successful attempt with stop sticks, the suspect's car came to a stop just miles before the I-44 / I-35 junction where he was quickly taken into custody.

[woaface]

If a police looking car rides your bumper at 15 feet and 75 mph, you know it's not a real cop. They would be breaking the law themselves to do so. And you can't break the law to enforce it in most circumstances. A real cop will pace you from at least 250 to 300 feet.


Yes, I will remember that! :beer:

[BocaMarauder]

I saw a black Floriday Highway Patrol Maruader twice writing a ticket on 95 in Broward County. It was stock as far as I could tell, except for the tinted windows, but that is standard down here.

[SHERIFF]

It was a Dark Cherry Metallic 1996 Impala SS.


How do you know?

[VaderSS]

How do you know?

Some of it is memory from when it actually happened. You can imagine the buzz at the time on the Impala forums and lists... Here is nice little tale from one of the LEOs on the scene;



Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:30:54 -0600

Author: "dwishon" <dwishon@flash.net>

Subject: Impala SS Takes on Oklahoma

Body: If any of you folks saw the pursuit via the news networks that took place in
Oklahoma on the 31st of Jan yes that was an Impala SS stolen out of Amarillo
TX by a 17 year old run-a-way punk from California. And yes, he out ran
everything they threw at him including 3 helicopters. 2 were news crews and
one was Oklahoma Cities Air 1. The news crews birds were rated at a ground
speed of 140 MPH and the City bird was rated at a ground speed of 150 mph.
The first attempt to stop the young man was made by Oklahoma City for just a
courtesy stop to tell him his tag was in the down position and that his gas
cap may be missing from that point on the race was on. Oklahoma City had
nothing to catch him so the Highway Patrol took over in there new Drowned
Turds and everything went downhill from that point on. He even out match
one of there pursuit Camero's now that saying something for the SS. They
finally convinced the young man to stop after two attempts with stop sticks,
he went around the first set but low and behold the following troop did not.
Shame Shame loosing your tires on your own stop sticks. Finally north on
I-35 a smart young troop decided to lay two sets of sticks in the shadows of
a bridge where they would not be seen by an approaching driver and yes they
did work and the young lad was finally apprehended. No damage to the stolen
SS other than tires.

All I can say is that two of use were sitting at Memorial Road and I-35
north when he went by and the speed that was registered on both our radar
units was downright amazing. I was not about to even attempt to do a
rolling catch even with my refurbished Missouri MadMax Vic. Yes they took
my Caprice away from me about a month ago. Jeesh pray for me.

Now the question is what did he prove. Nothing and thank god none of the
innocent folks on the I with him were hurt. He is in deeper doggie poop that
he has ever been. I guess the rule here is he fought the law and the law
one.

The last question is does anyone know who owns the SS? I do. My next
question too the owner is, do you know how fast your SS will go? I do.

Dennis Wishon - AKA The Prick in Black.
96 DGGM, OKLA TAG - COIL SS
NAISSO 2048
www.geocities.com/coil_ss

[T-90K]

Well, true. Here's how it works though..... police impersonators enjoy it when people slow down behind them, the people thinking they are a cop in an unmarked car. Once the person determines it's not a cop in an unmarked car and pass them..... the police impersonator then thinks "I will teach them, I will speed up and ride their ass, like I am a real cop pacing their speed!" So you're gonna get the full treatment one way or another. :)

If a police looking car rides your bumper at 15 feet and 75 mph, you know it's not a real cop. They would be breaking the law themselves to do so. And you can't break the law to enforce it in most circumstances. A real cop will pace you from at least 250 to 300 feet.

It was dosen of times when a real cop was behind me at 15 feet and 75 mph on 55 mph limited road. They just wanted to pass...
And I saw police cars breaking the law with no reason - no chase, but hurry to buy hot coffee on next gas station. Frustrating...

[SHERIFF]

It was dosen of times when a real cop was behind me at 15 feet and 75 mph on 55 mph limited road.


While this may anger a few people here (cops)..... cops that do that to me get a formal complaint in writing to their sheriff or chief. Had a prisoner transport van not long ago riding 8 feet from my bumper at 70 mph in a 65 mph zone. Had his headlights on and swaying left to right in the lane as if to say he was gonna push me out of the way. Once I moved over to let him go by and get his van number and license number, he continued to do the same thing to other cars in front of me. As a matter of fact, the sheriff wrote back and actually told me they suspended him for 3 days without pay and withheld his pay increase for the year. They usually don't tell me what punitive action(s) they have taken. Apaarently the officer that was with the driver told the sheriff "hell yeah, it's all true! I was ashamed of the way he was driving!"

Even when responding to an emergency call, an intelligent police officer should not ride your bumper that close at 75 mph. If his sheriff or chief knows he is driving so recklessly he will fix the problem, that you can bank on.

Several years ago a television camera crew on special assignment followed a Florida Lt. driving like hell one day. His travel included the grocery store, the dry cleaners, picking his child up from school....... once televised nationwide he was suspended. When confronted by the camera crew for an explantion he went berserk on film. That did not help his case either. :)

[SHERIFF]

Some of it is memory from when it actually happened. You can imagine the buzz at the time on the Impala forums and lists...



I also remember the "buzz" going on very recently. A guy on a Crown Victoria board posted the link and led people to believe it was him in his Impala SS trying to outrun the police. While he was only joking...... I suspect that is how the rumor got started in the Impala forums that it was an Impala SS as well.

[T-90K]

While this may anger a few people here (cops)..... cops that do that to me get a formal complaint in writing to their sheriff or chief. Had a prisoner transport van not long ago riding 8 feet from my bumper at 70 mph in a 65 mph zone.
Actually it's ok with me and my menthality. If someone's in a hurry (even more than +20mph) I always let him/her pass. My point was just to say it can be a cop too - running like hell for no reason.

[VaderSS]

also remember the "buzz" going on very recently.

The "buzz" was from the fact that it was on the television news, and with the original image resolution on the TV screen, it was quite apparent that it was a DCM Impala or a pretty darn good clone. The testimony of a few LEOs on the scene wrapped it up. It was a stolen '96 DCM Impala.

[DetGeno]

While you are detaining your suspect in a "proper manner", have your partner standing in front of the camara screaming on the top of his/her lungs "STOP RESISTING....STOP RESISITING!" It also works great for any bystanders as witnesses. :lol:

[SHERIFF]

While you are detaining your suspect in a "proper manner", have your partner standing in front of the camara screaming on the top of his/her lungs "STOP RESISTING....STOP RESISITING!" It also works great for any bystanders as witnesses. :lol:

That makes me so mad when I see it on COPS tv. Several cops standing on somebody's head and back with their knees yelling "give me your hands", and a third yelling "stop resisting". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the suspect can't move his damn hands to put them behind his back. It makes the cops look stupid. But........ 11 members on a jury of 12 would actually believe the guy was resisting. The 12th might be intelligent enough to see what's going on. :)

The above of course is not true in all cases, some people DO resist.

[SHERIFF]

My point was just to say it can be a cop too - running like hell for no reason.


Well, that's true. That's when the complaint process is best utilized. :)

[MAD-3R]

That makes me so mad when I see it on COPS tv. Several cops standing on somebody's head and back with their knees yelling "give me your hands", and a third yelling "stop resisting". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the suspect can't move his damn hands to put them behind his back. It makes the cops look stupid. But........ 11 members on a jury of 12 would actually believe the guy was resisting. The 12th might be intelligent enough to see what's going on. :)

The above of course is not true in all cases, some people DO resist.

And the way they select Jurys these days that 12th guy snuck in.

[Dr Caleb]

Well, that's true. That's when the complaint process is best utilized. :)

:bs:

I will never report any infraction by an RCMP officer again. I did call the Staff Sgt about an incident when I was living in a Northern community a number of years ago. Tailgating. My pet peeve.

All it got my was a police escort where ever I went, and a ticket for any little infraction. I also got pulled over every day for a 'safety check'. I also got a ticket for not having a fire extinguisher. All perfectly legal, as the rules for harassment are that tickets must be 20 minutes apart.

The RCMP 'self investigates' and there were no records of my being pulled over, except for tickets for not having a fire extinguisher and for only stopping 4 seconds instead of 5 at a stop sign.

[SHERIFF]

:bs:

I will never report any infraction by an RCMP officer again. I did call the Staff Sgt about an incident when I was living in a Northern community a number of years ago. Tailgating. My pet peeve.

All it got my was a police escort where ever I went, and a ticket for any little infraction. I also got pulled over every day for a 'safety check'. I also got a ticket for not having a fire extinguisher. All perfectly legal, as the rules for harassment are that tickets must be 20 minutes apart.

The RCMP 'self investigates' and there were no records of my being pulled over, except for tickets for not having a fire extinguisher and for only stopping 4 seconds instead of 5 at a stop sign.


And cops wonder why they don't get any respect anymore. I am totally ashamed of how some of these new green-behind-the-ears rookies behave and the things they do. You tell 20 friends about it, that 20 tells 20 more each...... 400 or 500 people pissed off at cops because of the actions of a few. They make their bed, let them sleep in it. Really sad.

[Marauder386]

Okay All...I would really like to put my 2 cents in on this as an LEO but I am really too angry at this thread right now. So, to get it back on its original track...
My MM is tinted with the legal 30% for SC...I also have my Thin Blue Line reflective plate on the front as well as a reflective sticker in the bottom left corner of the rear window. I also am allowed to have covert blue lights located strategically in locations on the vehicle as we will assist at any time on or off duty with any of the other LEO's in the area.
Now, please get back to the topic in this thread and rant later on about the young punks that I have to deal with...."film at eleven"

Sorry...I am ok now....< Phew ! >


M386

[David Morton]

All this talk about "Bad Cops" and nothing about where the real problem is where guys like that come from. Wherever and whenever these sorts of things happen the real problem is bad leadership. Sorry to say it, but when the leader of the free world gets in front of a camera and says he really didn't know much about a guy that was sitting in the presidential box with his wife, and that everything that has gone wrong under his watch isn't his fault, it's bound to trickle down to every sherrif, chief and commissioner in the nation. All bad leaders seem have the same mantra, "All I care about is results." until the ***** hits the fan and then it changes to, "It's not my fault. It's those bad apples."

Ask Lieutenant Calley.

[RCSignals]

:bs:

I will never report any infraction by an RCMP officer again. I did call the Staff Sgt about an incident when I was living in a Northern community a number of years ago. Tailgating. My pet peeve.

All it got my was a police escort where ever I went, and a ticket for any little infraction. I also got pulled over every day for a 'safety check'. I also got a ticket for not having a fire extinguisher. All perfectly legal, as the rules for harassment are that tickets must be 20 minutes apart.

The RCMP 'self investigates' and there were no records of my being pulled over, except for tickets for not having a fire extinguisher and for only stopping 4 seconds instead of 5 at a stop sign.No surprise there about the RCMP, especially a smaller rural type detachment

[MYSTA KANG]

Just think how fast the MM would go over a long stretch of highway. I thought the SS had a great theft system..but I was always told what ever theives want they will take. Anyway both the MM and the SS are great cars!

[DEFYANT]

That makes me so mad when I see it on COPS tv. Several cops standing on somebody's head and back with their knees yelling "give me your hands", and a third yelling "stop resisting". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the suspect can't move his damn hands to put them behind his back. It makes the cops look stupid. But........ 11 members on a jury of 12 would actually believe the guy was resisting. The 12th might be intelligent enough to see what's going on. :)

The above of course is not true in all cases, some people DO resist.
How do you think he got in the position of having several cops on him in the first place. Every arrest i've seen that went bad started with "You are under arrest". The bad guy then says or does something stupid and ends up in this situation. Point is, the bad guy resisted the verbal comand of the arresting officer. Even after an arrest goes bad, if the bad guy simply goes flacid and alowes the officer to place the handcuffs on, it would not take 3 or 4 police officers to effect an arrest.

Think about it.

[Wagonmaster]

How do you think he got in the position of having several cops on him in the first place. Every arrest i've seen that went bad started with "You are under arrest". The bad guy then says or does something stupid and ends up in this situation. Point is, the bad guy resisted the verbal comand of the arresting officer. Even after an arrest goes bad, if the bad guy simply goes flacid and alowes the officer to place the handcuffs on, it would not take 3 or 4 police officers to effect an arrest.

Think about it.

I concur with you Defyant. If Tommy the Tweaker would have listened to verbal commands and placed his hands behind his back in the first place, then he wouldnt have the Po Po on his back.

[Wagonmaster]

It was dosen of times when a real cop was behind me at 15 feet and 75 mph on 55 mph limited road. They just wanted to pass...
And I saw police cars breaking the law with no reason - no chase, but hurry to buy hot coffee on next gas station. Frustrating...
T-90K,

Thats very presumptious in regards to the coffee. Keep in mind that often Officers are heading to an alarm call and before they arrive they have received proper coding from the alarm company and the alarm in cancelled. In other instances, Officers are headed to aid another Officer who has asked for a second unit, however an Officer from another area may have arrived before them, thus the responding Officer can disregard. These are just two examples of many instances where an Officer may be above the posted speed limit w/o his lights on.

Often it is more effective for an Officer to manuever through traffic w/o his lights on while enroute to a call like this, due to it is less of a distraction to the motoring public. Often times John Q public panics and slam their brakes and pull to the left (instead of the right as required by law) or even come to a complete stop in the roadway! ect. when they see flashing lights, thus its more expeditious to head to a call w/o the lights, although this is not the preferred method as most S.O.P.'s require emergency lighting equipment when traveling above the posted speed limit.

I suggest you do a ride-a-long with your local agency. Just my .02

GT

[djmcnary]

T-90K,

Thats very presumptious in regards to the coffee. Keep in mind that often Officers are heading to an alarm call and before they arrive they have received proper coding from the alarm company and the alarm in cancelled. In other instances, Officers are headed to aid another Officer who has asked for a second unit, however an Officer from another area may have arrived before them, thus the responding Officer can disregard. These are just two examples of many instances where an Officer may be above the posted speed limit w/o his lights on.

Often it is more effective for an Officer to manuever through traffic w/o his lights on while enroute to a call like this, due to it is less of a distraction to the motoring public. Often times John Q public panics and slam their brakes and pull to the left (instead of the right as required by law) or even come to a complete stop in the roadway! ect. when they see flashing lights, thus its more expeditious to head to a call w/o the lights, although this is not the preferred method as most S.O.P.'s require emergency lighting equipment when traveling above the posted speed limit.

I suggest you do a ride-a-long with your local agency. Just my .02

GT

What he said ^^^^^

Thanks,

Doug

[PJR]

T-90K,

Thats very presumptious in regards to the coffee. Keep in mind that often Officers are heading to an alarm call and before they arrive they have received proper coding from the alarm company and the alarm in cancelled. In other instances, Officers are headed to aid another Officer who has asked for a second unit, however an Officer from another area may have arrived before them, thus the responding Officer can disregard. These are just two examples of many instances where an Officer may be above the posted speed limit w/o his lights on.

Often it is more effective for an Officer to manuever through traffic w/o his lights on while enroute to a call like this, due to it is less of a distraction to the motoring public. Often times John Q public panics and slam their brakes and pull to the left (instead of the right as required by law) or even come to a complete stop in the roadway! ect. when they see flashing lights, thus its more expeditious to head to a call w/o the lights, although this is not the preferred method as most S.O.P.'s require emergency lighting equipment when traveling above the posted speed limit.

I suggest you do a ride-a-long with your local agency. Just my .02

GTAmen. Having the position to investigate citizen complaints against Officers I would like to add that it is important to notify supervisors when you think something you have witnessed is improper, but, don't complain about every little thing. Remember that there is probably specifics you don't know. (As posted above)
We are trying to help, and we DO weed out the bad.

[TAF]

Back to the year old topic....

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