Dyno numbers

[mgmsleeper]

car dynoed at 266rwhp/291
...long story short
...I NEED MORE POWER

next week 410s will be done.

AFTER THE GEAR SWAP WHAT SHOULD GO NEXT?

[Shaijack]

You will love the 4:10's I do.

[mgmsleeper]

You will love the 4:10's I do.

ive driven one with em i loved them that's why im going with them. you have any other mods?

[ctrlraven]

Who did you have the dyno done by and are those STD or SAE numbers? That's a fairly big difference in hp and tq for just having a tune and K&N FI kit.

As far as next, underdrive pulleys (if you plan on staying NA for a while cause they will have to be removed if you go SC) and exhaust. Jmod is good to do as well.

[DOOM]

...I NEED MORE POWER

next week 410s will be done.

4:10's won't add MORE POWER!

[mgmsleeper]

Who did you have the dyno done by and are those STD or SAE numbers? That's a fairly big difference in hp and tq for just having a tune and K&N FI kit.

As far as next, underdrive pulleys (if you plan on staying NA for a while cause they will have to be removed if you go SC) and exhaust. Jmod is good to do as well.

exhaust is done already ...full borla. dyno was done by HP-Performance in orange park,fl

[mgmsleeper]

4:10's won't add MORE POWER!

oh i know that but i will wake it up a bit more.

[RacerX]

4:10's won't add MORE POWER!
Of course not! It's a DTR!!! :lol:

[mgmsleeper]

4:10's won't add MORE POWER!


Of course not! It's a DTR!!! :lol:



:blah: lol

[mgmsleeper]

im really looking at a EATON swap right now

[RacerX]

Hehe! Can't help it... Black is faster standing still every time! ;)
ANYWAY! Save up and supercharge it. When I first came here I was told by many to just go right to sc. They were all absolutely 100% correct. 4.10s will get it out of the hole a bit faster, but, you will always want more. :D SC it and get the upgraded sway bars etc.

[ctrlraven]

exhaust is done already ...full borla. dyno was done by HP-Performance in orange park,fl
So it has headers with two high flow cats, x or h-pipe, (muffler of choice) and over-axle 2.5" pipe? If so then your car is way under powered then. A muffler change will barely make any power difference.

Reinhart is also in Orange Park, FL fyi.

[Blackened300a]

A higher stall torque convertor will make a big difference in getting the car motivated. After you do the minor bolts-ons like the intake spacer, emp water pump, CAI, exhaust, and a gear swap, things start getting quite expensive.
Have a goal?

[mgmsleeper]

So it has headers with two high flow cats, x or h-pipe, (muffler of choice) and over-axle 2.5" pipe? If so then your car is way under powered then. A muffler change will barely make any power difference.

Reinhart is also in Orange Park, FL fyi.

no headers
yes high flow cats, h pipe, borla mufflers and over axle

[mgmsleeper]

Hehe! Can't help it... Black is faster standing still every time! ;)
ANYWAY! Save up and supercharge it. When I first came here I was told by many to just go right to sc. They were all absolutely 100% correct. 4.10s will get it out of the hole a bit faster, but, you will always want more. :D SC it and get the upgraded sway bars etc.

lol.
i would love a DR SC kit but its a bit pricey ...so im thinking Eaton swap

[ctrlraven]

no headers
yes high flow cats, h pipe, borla mufflers and over axle
Is it mandrel bent stainless or crush bent aluminum?

[mgmsleeper]

A higher stall torque convertor will make a big difference in getting the car motivated. After you do the minor bolts-ons like the intake spacer, emp water pump, CAI, exhaust, and a gear swap, things start getting quite expensive.
Have a goal?

my goal is BOOST...Eaton is loking more like it i or DR kit but thats $$$.
no track just a DD with enough power to have fun. minimum 400rwhp

is a stall a pro or a con on the eaton swap

[mgmsleeper]

Is it mandrel bent stainless or crush bent aluminum?

mandrel i believe, i dont know... the exhaust shop did the work. my pipes r black tho

[RacerX]

With the Eaton, you won't need a new TC.

[Blackened300a]

my goal is BOOST...Eaton is loking more like it i or DR kit but thats $$$.
no track just a DD with enough power to have fun. minimum 400rwhp

is a stall a pro or a con on the eaton swap

Pro for a better ET, Con for lack of traction.

[mgmsleeper]

Pro for a better ET, Con for lack of traction.

i wont need an ET ...it might only see the track once. i'll stall just not too high. a smoke show here and there will be ok

[mgmsleeper]

parts dont seem to be much ...what makes this swap 4k? ...

[RacerX]

parts dont seem to be much ...what makes this swap 4k? ...
What? Eaton swap?? About $2500 for me...

[1 Bad Merc]

I would go headers and Eaton. You dont need the stall-upgrade your fuel pump -I went to GT-40 -you are going to need it.

[mgmsleeper]

What? Eaton swap?? About $2500 for me...


:eek: 2500 ...details please. if i can do it at this price or cheaper i'll be swapped in a few days

[mgmsleeper]

I would go headers and Eaton. You dont need the stall-upgrade your fuel pump -I went to GT-40 -you are going to need it.


what headers are a good choices? (excuse the question im a chevy guy)
and 10-4 on the fuel pump

[RacerX]

:eek: 2500 ...details please. if i can do it at this price or cheaper i'll be swapped in a few days
:) I bought most of it as a package deal from a member here for $1200. GT40 FP was $80, KB BAP was $110. 90mm Cobra MAF was $80. Misc. Ford pulleys, battery tray, etc. $110. Brackets are anywhere from $200 to $400+. Labor is all me!

[mgmsleeper]

:) I bought most of it as a package deal from a member here for $1200. GT40 FP was $80, KB BAP was $110. 90mm Cobra MAF was $80. Misc. Ford pulleys, battery tray, etc. $110. Brackets are anywhere from $200 to $400+. Labor is all me!

nice, i'll be all labor myself unless a member here has a good labor price.

[SC Cheesehead]

:eek: 2500 ...details please. if i can do it at this price or cheaper i'll be swapped in a few days

PM me wth your e-mail address and I can send you some info on doing the Eaton swap.

$2,500 is possible, but pretty optimistic unless you land some killer deals. $3,000 to $3,500 is a more realistic budget for the parts.

[mgmsleeper]

PM me wth your e-mail address and I can send you some info on doing the Eaton swap.

$2,500 is possible, but pretty optimistic unless you land some killer deals. $3,000 to $3,500 is a more realistic budget for the parts.

PM sent ...im trying to land some killer deals

[DOOM]

If you go with an eaton swap then save your money and skip on the 4:10's.

[mgmsleeper]

If you go with an eaton swap then save your money and skip on the 4:10's.

yes 4:10s are on hold for now. im after the BOOST

[MrBluGruv]

Your upgrade path should pretty much entirely be decided by if you will be adding boost or not:

If not, go 4.10 gear, full exhaust, intake, maybe U/D pulleys, stall, etc., and enjoy high 13's on a good day.

If so, slap the blower on, get the exhaust note to one you like, and call it a day in the 13's easy.


At that point, you'll need stronger internals before you can add much more power, and if you are willing to go beyond the stock engine, it's an entirely different ball game...

[mgmsleeper]

Your upgrade path should pretty much entirely be decided by if you will be adding boost or not:

If not, go 4.10 gear, full exhaust, intake, maybe U/D pulleys, stall, etc., and enjoy high 13's on a good day.

If so, slap the blower on, get the exhaust note to one you like, and call it a day in the 13's easy.


At that point, you'll need stronger internals before you can add much more power, and if you are willing to go beyond the stock engine, it's an entirely different ball game...

i'l keep it safe on the stock internals, i dont want too much power ...to destroy the block. im boosting the DRT though.

[guspech750]

If you go with an eaton swap then save your money and skip on the 4:10's.

I disagree.
I LOVE my 4.10's plus my Eaton swap!!!
Eaton swap + 4.10's = Lots of WREEEEEEEEEEDOM!! Pure awesomness!!


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[mgmsleeper]

lol i will get 4:10s just not yet, im trying to get my Eaton Swap parts first then 4:10s they are a dime a donzen. parts are a search


I disagree.
I LOVE my 4.10's plus my Eaton swap!!!
Eaton swap + 4.10's = Lots of WREEEEEEEEEEDOM!! Pure awesomness!!


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[RacerX]

im boosting the DRT though.
You aren't making fun of DTRs are you??? :mad2:WTH Bro???

[BODYMAN]

parts dont seem to be much ...what makes this swap 4k? ...

You got a full list of needed parts? Yeah parts dont seem like much but boy they add up if you really shop around and snatch all the good deals which takes time you could get it done for maybe 3K but even with some good deals most end up around 4K. Everything you need adds up

[BODYMAN]

On my SB 4.10's would have made the car almost impossible to get traction, Heck with 3.55's I still cant mash the gas under 35 or so even above that on some types of pavement. So glad no gear change for me. and to boot very nice cruiser on the highway. Youd be better to not do 4.10's or stall and spend that $ towards LT's

[mgmsleeper]

You aren't making fun of DTRs are you??? :mad2:WTH Bro???

never, honest mistake DTR im at work multitasking

[mgmsleeper]

You got a full list of needed parts? Yeah parts dont seem like much but boy they add up if you really shop around and snatch all the good deals which takes time you could get it done for maybe 3K but even with some good deals most end up around 4K. Everything you need adds up

yes i have bookmarked the post of parts and etc... i will be looking as well as a few other friends to find the best deal before purchase of parts.

[mgmsleeper]

On my SB 4.10's would have made the car almost impossible to get traction, Heck with 3.55's I still cant mash the gas under 35 or so even above that on some types of pavement. So glad no gear change for me. and to boot very nice cruiser on the highway. Youd be better to not do 4.10's or stall and spend that $ towards LT's


sounds like some great power there.

...my gears will be last i can get those anywhere and the price is fairly the same. LTs are a good additive ...got a link to a good set?

[DOOM]

I disagree.
I LOVE my 4.10's plus my Eaton swap!!!
Eaton swap + 4.10's = Lots of WREEEEEEEEEEDOM!! Pure awesomness!!


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Well I guess you're right!









On a DTR you will need ALL the help you can to get that thing moving!!! :lol: :laugh: :rofl:

[mgmsleeper]

Well I guess you're right!









On a DTR you will need ALL the help you can to get that thing moving!!! :lol: :laugh: :rofl:


:mad2::fire::duel: lol

[guspech750]

Well I guess you're right!









On a DTR you will need ALL the help you can to get that thing moving!!! :lol: :laugh: :rofl:

I know. Right Jake? :lol:


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[ctrlraven]

I drove CheeseheadBob's Trilogy which had 4.10s and didn't have any traction problems of course I didn't drive it with the purpose to break traction either. It was quite easy to go from a stop to a roll with minimum flexing of the right foot. I'm sure if I had punched it while rolling at a low speed would be a different story.

[justbob]

If you go with an eaton swap then save your money and skip on the 4:10's.

Somebody just bought 4.30's :)

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[mgmsleeper]

Somebody just bought 4.30's :)

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sounds like a smoke show

[DOOM]

Somebody just bought 4.30's :)

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Oh biscuits!!! :lol:

[LANDY]

The one thing I would do is have circle D build you a custom low stall TC for your application. I guarantee you will feel a big improvement over the factory TC

[mgmsleeper]

The one thing I would do is have circle D build you a custom low stall TC for your application. I guarantee you will feel a big improvement over the factory TC

never heard of them, info ...link...

[guspech750]

Somebody just bought 4.30's :)

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Yeah bittches!! I was hoping you'd come out of the gear closet!!


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[BODYMAN]

The one thing I would do is have circle D build you a custom low stall TC for your application. I guarantee you will feel a big improvement over the factory TC

+1 on that when my trans finally goes this will be done!

[BODYMAN]

sounds like some great power there.

...my gears will be last i can get those anywhere and the price is fairly the same. LTs are a good additive ...got a link to a good set?

Again just look on SVTP for some 4valve LT's they can be made to work on a Marauder with some massaging several have done BBK's only other option would be pay close to 1,000 for a set of Stainless works.

[71cyclone]

AS I said before U can see DOOM on U-tube for a live demo of 410 Blown M/M Power for those of U in question? of [ how to do it right]

[SC Cheesehead]

AS I said before U can see DOOM on U-tube for a live demo of 410 Blown M/M Power for those of U in question? of [ how to do it right]

Is Doomie running 4.10's? I thought he still had his 3.55's in.

[ctrlraven]

Yes DOOM has 3.55 gears, not 4.10s.

[BODYMAN]

Ill say I got 4.10's in my Vortech Marauder w/3500 stall there perfect match, However my silver wont get 4.10's it not excatly a regular Eaton swap or Trilogy Iam making approx 120 more horse and more TQ then the avg one of these 2 cars. Excluding Doom since he has a ported Eaton & Termi LB.

[na svt]

I disagree.
I LOVE my 4.10's plus my Eaton swap!!!
Eaton swap + 4.10's = Lots of WREEEEEEEEEEDOM!! Pure awesomness!!

Hell yeah!