Thanks tim

[DTUB]

I'd like to thank Tim Barth for taking time out from his busy schedule to base tune my car today.
Tim gave me a start up tune to get running a couple of weeks ago but it took 3 reflashes and 50% more fuel to keep it running.
Heres a list of whats been done so far.

MMR 1500S (1500 RWHP 5.0 10.1cr) short block
Heads freshend with new valves,comp coated springs and titanium retainers
4.0 WHIPPLE with crusher intake
3 Jay Racing 342 fuel pumps (return style)
-10 feed and -8 return lines
105LB injectors
E85 fuel
Level 4 trans and Circle D triple@ 2800 stall

I asked Tim to just set the fuel trims, get it running good and no boost or more than 4000 rpm so I could break the motor and trans in but he talked me into a couple of half pulls.
So heres the results.
Car made 490hp and 630trq. with only 10 degs at 4000 rpm on his conservative dyno (not sure what the boost was).
What do you guys think my final numbers will be at around 20lbs.???

[ImpalaSlayer]

god damn dtub, thats fawking beautiful! those number are equally fawking ridiculous at that rpm and boost. id say itll be in the high 700s for sure but thats just a guess.

this is definitely the best looking mm engine in any mm anywhere

[LANDY]

That Looks amazing, subscribing.

[MOTOWN]

I was wondering how your build was coming, looks outstanding!

[tjl006]

DTUB will you marry me?

[CWright]

:awe:BEAUTIFUL!!!:awe:

[Mr. Man]

Looks great. Are you going to bring it to MV9?

[DTUB]

DTUB will you marry me?
Only if you have a lot of money.


Looks great. Are you going to bring it to MV9?
Going to keep it local till I get all the bugs worked out.

[guspech750]

Oh my God Doug!! Holy Sht!! Conservative tune 630+tq!! I'd say 730hp and 780tq

I'd be afraid to breath on that engine. It's a museum piece!!

Jonesing to see this in person for the final dyno tune!!!

Beautiful!!!


PS. Tim is the Man!!!
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[FordNut]

Don't you think you need a bigger blower? :burnout:

That's awesome, congrats on the buildup and the tune.

[boatmangc]

Beautiful.
Maybe it will be debugged in time for a trip to Atlanta in November!!

[DTUB]

Oh my God Doug!! Holy Sht!! Conservative tune 630+tq!! I'd say 730hp and 780tq

I'd be afraid to breath on that engine. It's a museum piece!!

Jonesing to see this in person for the final dyno tune!!!

Beautiful!!!


PS. Tim is the Man!!!
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Thanks Joe but I think youv'e got your numbers backward.


Don't you think you need a bigger blower? :burnout:

That's awesome, congrats on the buildup and the tune.
I would have but they don't make one bigger that actually fits.

Tim says hi :)

[Blown3.8]

Looks good.

[jflave]

Very Very bada$$ nice, custom hood ? :)

[LANDY]

Beautiful.
Maybe it will be debugged in time for a trip to Atlanta in November!!
That's right bring it to the shootout in November. We should have a nice turnout this year.

[guspech750]

Thanks Joe but I think youv'e got your numbers backward.


I would have but they don't make one bigger that actually fits.

Tim says hi :)

Yes. Yes I do have them backwards. It's the DTR in me :D


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[guspech750]

Please by all means post up, text or smoke signals when you do you final dyno tune. I would love to stop by and see it scream.


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[DTUB]

Yes. Yes I do have them backwards. It's the DTR in me :D


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Theres nothing wrong with a DTR especially one as nice as yours.


Please by all means post up, text or smoke signals when you do you final dyno tune. I would love to stop by and see it scream.


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Tims in the process of moving to a new location and his two dynos are going upstairs on the second story so should be pretty cool.

[1stMerc]

That is simply awesome... 800 horses

Subscribing.

[TAKEDOWN]

Simply... Bad to the Bone!!!

[guspech750]

Theres nothing wrong with a DTR especially one as nice as yours.

I'll post up my final dyno date and time.
Tims in the process of moving to a new location and his two dynos are going upstairs on the second story so should be pretty cool.

Oh wow!! 2nd floor. I look forward to hopefully being able to see your dyno and his new shop.


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[DTUB]

That is simply awesome... 800 horses

Subscribing.
I'd like to see 800 but that would probably take more boost than a 10.1 E85 tuned motor can handle.
Custom cams and ported heads might get it there though.

[sanco]

THAT IS SICK!!! i think all local marauders are going to Tim from now on.

he does a hell of a job

BTW again, SICK!!

[DTUB]

Yes take your car to Tim if your any where close to Rockford il.

Tim had to pretty much start from scratch on my car because of all the major changes I made but he got it dialed in with in an hour.

He said that most of the cars that come in like mine usually take half a day to get right so he said I did a pretty good job.

It was kinda cool standing there watching, looked like the car wanted to jump straight up.

[LANDY]

I'd like to see 800 but that would probably take more boost than a 10.1 E85 tuned motor can handle.
Custom cams and ported heads might get it there though. I wish we had e-85 around here so I can put my high CR motor to work. Keep us posted you have one hell of a build

[justbob]

Doug, that car is what motivates me... Beautifull man, just. Plain. Beautifull!

Oh yeah. 806/834...

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[mcgyver59]

Should just went hammer down. You don't plan on running that at only 20psi do you?
Btw gorgeous!

[DTUB]

Doug, that car is what motivates me... Beautifull man, just. Plain. Beautifull!

Oh yeah. 806/834...

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Thanks Bob and more than happy to be your motivater.
806/834 would probably need C16.


Should just went hammer down. You don't plan on running that at only 20psi do you?
Btw gorgeous!
Motor and trans only had about 10 miles of break in so I didn't want to push to hard just get it running good.
I'd like to run more boost but getting conflicting opinions on this.
Tim says 17 max but some of the guys on SVT claim mid 20's are no problem so I'll have to do some more head scratching.

[Mike]

:eek: Holy cr@p that it one beautiful machine :bows:

[mcgyver59]

There must be some detail im missing that anyone would suggest low psi on your car. 3 pumps and e85 =25-30 psi all day long. There is absolutely no reason that car wont make north of 900 even with the auto and 25+psi

[DTUB]

There must be some detail im missing that anyone would suggest low psi on your car. 3 pumps and e85 =25-30 psi all day long. There is absolutely no reason that car wont make north of 900 even with the auto and 25+psi
Theres a lot of debate going on right now over how much boost can be run on higher compression motors using E85.
Some people claim they actually gained power over C16 so I guess for now I'll do some more research, keep it safe and lean on it next season.

[FordNut]

The question becomes, what is more useful? I don't want to search for e85, don't want to depend on race gas access, and don't want to risk breaking my major investment in the engine. I'm ok with 751 on 91 octane pump gas. I know I could pulley up the blower and add some timing and get close to 900, but I'm satisfied with a 91 or 93 octane pump gas tune for everyday use.

[Blown3.8]

The question becomes, what is more useful? I don't want to search for e85, don't want to depend on race gas access, and don't want to risk breaking my major investment in the engine. I'm ok with 751 on 91 octane pump gas. I know I could pulley up the blower and add some timing and get close to 900, but I'm satisfied with a 91 or 93 octane pump gas tune for everyday use.

What compression ratio you got, Brian?

[FordNut]

It's supposed to be 9.5:1, so I think I should be able to go to 20 psi on 93 octan. But if I were to take a trip and be stuck with 91 I might have problems.

[71cyclone]

That Merc is Definately - BLOWN TO THE BONE-Bar None

[1stMerc]

The question becomes, what is more useful? I don't want to search for e85, don't want to depend on race gas access, and don't want to risk breaking my major investment in the engine. I'm ok with 751 on 91 octane pump gas. I know I could pulley up the blower and add some timing and get close to 900, but I'm satisfied with a 91 or 93 octane pump gas tune for everyday use.

This is the person i was basing my guess off of.

[Blown3.8]

DTUB, why did you go high comp with the 4.0 blower? I know E85 is good but man I'm sure that blower wants to spin and make some boost.

[DTUB]

I went with 10.1 because I didn't want to loose any off idle throttle response.
Just trying to copy what the blown alky guys are doing but I think I'll put a KC on it too be safe.

[FordNut]

My KC is on order, should be getting it soon. I'll post up some pics.

[DTUB]

I just ordered mine today with the drag kit. (GB)
We need to figure out a way to keep the HE in the loop when you want it for cooler days but automatically switch between the two when you throw the air on that way its fool proof.

[FordNut]

Already got it. Posted the info on ChicagoSVT, but I'll post it here too when I do my install.

[LOWBUCKMM]

Doug I thought that motor was perfect on the stand as a show piece. But now it looks even better. Can't wait for the final dyno numbers. I would love to be there for it.