Temperature Gauge

[Marc]

I've noticed for a while and never bothered to ask, but why does the temperature gauge spike all of the way to the top before settling down to a normal level? I once had a 1987 Mercury Topaz, the only other Mercury I've ever owned, and it did the same thing.

Also, this morning after the car warmed up on the way into the office, I encountered some heavy traffic and was at a standstill for a while. During that time, it seemed like the car got cold and the process started over again. Granted, it was cold this morning (high teens) but I've never had that happen before.

Any thoughts from anyone? And yes, I'm still embarrassed about once having owned a Mercury Topaz.

[SheboyganGuy]

I used to have an 87 Mercury Topaz, too!! Except I used to call it the "Topa-Z," made it sound sportier...

Your symptoms seem to indicate a malfunctioning thermostat. It may be getting stuck closed (thus the temp spike), and then opening all the way, then closing back up again.

I put a new thermostat in the Topa-Z every winter I had that car...

[Marc]

I use to call mine the No-Paz.

So I'm assuming that your Marauder doesn't do the same thing?

[SheboyganGuy]

No, my Marauder warms up normally, and then stays that way, I haven't seen any wild fluctuations in temperature once it warms up...

[LincMercLover]

Sounds like an air pocket in the system. Try bleeding it first.

[SheboyganGuy]

Good suggestion, LML!!

[RF Overlord]

^^^what LML said^^^

BTW, Rick, congrats on your new employment status... :beatnik:

[martyo]

Also, this morning after the car warmed up on the way into the office, I encountered some heavy traffic and was at a standstill for a while. During that time, it seemed like the car got cold and the process started over again. Granted, it was cold this morning (high teens) but I've never had that happen before.
Mine does this too. I also know that a few other members who have MMs here in the colder climate complain of teh same thing. I know the problem is not caused by an air pocket in my cooling system. What is weird is that the gage needle doesn't move much but the air temperatire gets considerably cooler. I assumed that this was to keep the motor temperature constant as the motor is far more important than the occupants of the car.

[bubba]

I just picked up my maruader 3 weeks ago and had the same problem. Took it to the dealer to check the thermostat. It had aluminum metal chips stuck in it - presumably left from the factory. They changed the thermostat and it works fine now. I kept the aluminum chips for any possible warranty work that may be need. I would really like to know how your situation turns out.


I've noticed for a while and never bothered to ask, but why does the temperature gauge spike all of the way to the top before settling down to a normal level? I once had a 1987 Mercury Topaz, the only other Mercury I've ever owned, and it did the same thing.

Also, this morning after the car warmed up on the way into the office, I encountered some heavy traffic and was at a standstill for a while. During that time, it seemed like the car got cold and the process started over again. Granted, it was cold this morning (high teens) but I've never had that happen before.

Any thoughts from anyone? And yes, I'm still embarrassed about once having owned a Mercury Topaz.

[GarageMahal]

I have never seen a temperature spike or reduction in heater output and it is COLD here in the winter.

jta

[SergntMac]

Okay...I'm like "wtf" are we talking about here?

Outside temps? Engine temps? Cabin temps?

'Round here, outside temps have ducked down to -3 and I drove my MM through them. My engine reached "normal operating temp = 20 MPH" no problem. My cabin temp kindastalled, and it got "cool" inside.

Once I opened a window (to allow my cigarette smoke to escape) it got real warm inside my MM.

What/which temps are we comparing here, eh?

[jpatricktaylor]

This kinda sounds like my problem. Driving around town Saturday (outside temp about 20 degrees) after about 15 minutes the temp gauge was at a normal setting, but I realized the air from the vents was ice cold. I played with the temp settings up and down, turned auto on and off, no change. Then the temp gauge rose all the way to the top in about a minute, so I pulled over and popped the hood - anti-freeze was seeping from around the reservoir cap! Luckily, the LM dealer was only about a mile away, so I headed on down there. By the time I got there (maybe 3 minutes) the temp gauge reading had gone back to normal and hot air was coming out of the vents.
Talked to the service guy yesterday, and he said I had a bad thermostat and a leak in the radiator, both of which they're replacing. I haven't gotten the car back yet because of the freakin' weather - they can't really test drive it effectively in the snow and ice (and I don't want them to!). So I'm sitting here waiting....

[Macon Marauder]

This is too weird. Mine does the EXACT same thing. And I thought it was the only one! It doesn't get very cold here, but a few mornings have been in the 20's.

A similar thing happened last year and I bled the cooling system per recommendations here. It got better. Saturday I bled the system again and there was air in there. Again, it's a little better, but still does it.

I've toyed with the idea of pulling the 'stat and going back to the stock one just to see what happens. But if it's happening to stock Marauders, maybe it's time for a dreaded trip to the dealer...

[Marc]

Well, it looks like a dreaded trip to the dealer then. I took my wife's car into work today (Jeep Grand Cherokee) due to the weather and have rediscovered how a car is supposed to warm up and keep the occupants comfortable in cold weather. But I wouldn't give my Marauder back for anything, in spite of this minor glitch.

Thank you to everyone for sharing your experiences.

[Paul T. Casey]

I never had that problem until I changed the thermostat. Same situation as described here. What it turned out to be was the infamous air bubble deal. It took a few days to effectively burp my baby. All that for about a little more htan a quart of coolant.

[LNYTUNS]

Ok, so now I am a little worried. I keep my MM stored all winter (becuase Wisconsin winters suck) but I now will have to find time on a dry day to check this out. Has anyone seen this temp gage spike in the summer?

[Marc]

Oh yes. Mine does it every single time regardless of temp. outside. I've had the car for 15 months now and have just grown accustomed to it. I just considered it to be a quirk and since performance has never been impacted, I never gave it much thought.

[G-Man]

Marc,

I had this happen to my 2003. I went to the dealership who swore that the engine was operating propery, at its normal temp. I got Mercury involved. Turns out that the sending unit to the temp. gauge was bad. Apparently there are several sending units that fit this car, but only one really works. Problem solved on mine. Temp gauge works perfect and the dealer was right, the engine was functioning properly the whole time.

[Macon Marauder]

Bled (or "burped") mine again and this morning (25 degrees) the needle in the temp gauge moved SLOWLY to the 20 mph mark and stayed there all the way into work.

Hmm, maybe air is getting in somehow and I'm just gonna have to bleed it from time to time...

[Paul T. Casey]

I think Mr. Macon ent through the same as me. When the stat gets changed, you loose some coolant. It took me a few days to get it filled. It seems that somehow this radiator doesn't like to be filled. Also small ammounts of coolant missing, in my case around a quart, maybe a pint more, throws off cooling properties. Anyone with temp problems on a non-modded system, IMHO, has a problem that needs to be addressed by their serviceman. Prior to my mods, my gauge was rock steady after it warmed up. Also, I had no heating problems in the cold weather, it was almost unbearable at max (90) temp. in the cabin. Now that my Coolant level is back at the proper level, I'm back to rock steady gague and hot temp. in the car with heat on.

[Marc]

I took the car into the dealer and it ended up being a combination of two problems. The thermostat was faulty and was not opening up until well into driving the car. Secondly, it did need to have air bled out of it. Its now running fine, it warms normally, the gauge reads the way it should. Thank you to everyone for responding.

[SheboyganGuy]

Glad to hear it's fixed!! Motor on......

[RF Overlord]

Damn, I LOVE this place! :D

[Marauderjack]

OK......

How do you bleed the air out???

Our CV does the same thing and I'm gonna put Dennis' stat in the Marauder!! :(

Is there a special trick to ensure all the air is out?? :confused:

Marauderjack :pimp:

[RF Overlord]

OK......

How do you bleed the air out???



jack:

Look for a small, round cap in a bung on the metal coolant cross-over tube at the front of the motor. The cap is toward the passenger side. Use a ¼" drive ratchet to loosen the cap until it's almost off. Start the motor and let it idle until it's warmed up...you'll see the air being expelled, along with a few dribbles of coolant. When all the air is purged, tighten the cap. Done.

[Marauderjack]

Thanks RF....

Now where does the T-stat hide?? :confused:

Marauderjack :)

[jobrien8]

Are you in automatic climate control? Also what is the inside temperature set at? Mine cooled down, and all I had to do was raise the inside temperature.

[RF Overlord]

Now where does the T-stat hide?? :confused:

It's in that metal kludge with three radiator hoses attached, down between the radiator and the motor, on the driver's side.

Note: Don't lose the o-ring when you take it apart...