Some Questions

[blkZooM]

Hello all who are able to help. My marauders transmission seems to be acting up, walked into AAMCO yesterday and got it check out, I was told that it wasn't giving any codes and that the transmission was overfilled.

When driving in the ranges of 35-40 mph it starts to shake seems likes its shaking while in the gear not going into another, when I step on it or take OD off its smooth ridding. anybody have any idea what the problem could be?

Thinking about maybe getting the trans filter changed.

[CBT]

....sounds like you needs to clean your mafs and iac's and plugs and coils and throttle bodies.....

[fastblackmerc]

When was the last time the tranny has been serviced?

I'd do a flush, fill & replace the filter.

Use ONLY Mercon V tranny fluid.

DO NOT use any other spec fluid and out an additive in to "simulate" Mercon V fluid.

[blkZooM]

....sounds like you needs to clean your mafs and iac's and plugs and coils and throttle bodies.....

Sounds like a good amount to clean, but Ill get it done, can you tell me what I would need to clean them or is it just a simply wash and put back on

[blkZooM]

When was the last time the tranny has been serviced?

I'd do a flush, fill & replace the filter.

Use ONLY Mercon V tranny fluid.

DO NOT use any other spec fluid and out an additive in to "simulate" Mercon V fluid.

Honestly I have not a clue, recently purchased the car, read on thread that some do it if they are not to sure it was done before to be on the safe side.

[MM2004]

Honestly I have not a clue, recently purchased the car, read on thread that some do it if they are not to sure it was done before to be on the safe side.

Is the fluid red in color?

Does the fluid have a burnt smell to it?

How many miles on the car?

Are there any mods done to it? ie. tune?

Turn the OD off and see if the problem is still present. Only turn the OD on around 50 - 55 mph and see if the issue is still there.

Maybe the tranny is 'hunting' between 3rd and OD?

Mike.

[blkZooM]

Is the fluid red in color?

Does the fluid have a burnt smell to it?

How many miles on the car?

Are there any mods done to it? ie. tune?

Mike.


Miles are at about 92,239 I would say, no mods as of now, and didn't smell it just looked at it, it was like a cherry red with some darkness in it.

[CBT]

Sounds like a good amount to clean, but Ill get it done, can you tell me what I would need to clean them or is it just a simply wash and put back on
Yep. Get some carb cleaner spray and some maf cleaner spray. Unhook, spray, make gunk go away. The two occasions my car did this, is had nothing to do with the transmission and everything to do with just cleaning stuff and changing plugs.

[frdwrnch]

This could be a condition known as torque converter shudder. It sort of feels like riding over rumble strips in the road. If this sounds consistent with your issue, have the transmission flushed with MerconV fluid and hope for the best. If it lessens but doesn;t eliminate the issue the you will need a torque converter.

[blkZooM]

Yep. Get some carb cleaner spray and some maf cleaner spray. Unhook, spray, make gunk go away. The two occasions my car did this, is had nothing to do with the transmission and everything to do with just cleaning stuff and changing plugs.

thanks for the quick reply, I will try cleaning this tomorrow, and get back to you on how it feels afterwards

[blkZooM]

This could be a condition known as torque converter shudder. It sort of feels like riding over rumble strips in the road. If this sounds consistent with your issue, have the transmission flushed with MerconV fluid and hope for the best. If it lessens but doesn;t eliminate the issue the you will need a torque converter.

actually that sounds rather close to how it feels, I will try and flush and replace the filter and clean what CBT said, if no prevail, then i guess my plans on adding a new torque converter was just push up the list?

Hopefully I just need to clean it it up

[Billy]

I was told that the transmission was overfilled.


anybody have any idea what the problem could be?

Well I think you answered your own question. AODE transmissions don't like to be overfilled, and all sorts of weird things can happen if they are.

[71cyclone]

I have had the same problem. I contacted "ATI racing automatics " in Baltimore Maryland ,and they told me to pick up a red tube of " INSTANT SHUDDER FIX "
the original from DR. Trannny [www.Drtranny.com ] this is a product that contains friction modifiers that eliminated 'converter shudder' problems . Empty tube content into filler tube ,problem will be fixed in lessthan 20 minutes of driving. I got my tube over the counter from Clinton TRansmissions in my neighborhood for 5 dollars.

[Odinson]

Just went through a case like this. Even brought it to the tranny shop. Turned out it was the coils. 64k and three were borderline.

at $80 a coil it's an expensive experiment though.

BTW go motorcraft. Apparently all the aftermarket stuff that provides an upgrade also burns out faster.

[01LXHPP]

This could be a condition known as torque converter shudder. It sort of feels like riding over rumble strips in the road. If this sounds consistent with your issue, have the transmission flushed with MerconV fluid and hope for the best. If it lessens but doesn;t eliminate the issue the you will need a torque converter.

Ding ding ding! we have a winner! I have 2 friends with 2 different 5.0 explorers, both with 4R70W's and both of them do this. 3rd gear into O/D, the torque converter shudders and it feels like you are hitting rumble strips

Back in 98 ford changed the spec for the 4R70W to take mercon V to combat this problem specifically. Change your fluid out, change the filter and see if it helps, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. Dropping the pan is 8 quarts, and draining the torque converter is another 4 for a total of 12 quarts.

Just go to the dealer and get 12 quarts of Mercon V and a trans filter. When you do the torque converter, there is a rubber plug on the bell housing of the trans, remove this and you'll see the torque converter. Have someone bump the starter until you can see the drain plug on the torque converter, then proceed to drain 4 quarts out of it. If you hold the gas pedal WOT and try to start it, the car will only crank and not start. Don't believe me? Go try ;)

at 90K miles your trans fluid is due for some replacement regardless....

[ctrlraven]

Take it to a trusted mechanic or a Ford dealership to have the transmission serviced IF after cleaning the MAF and IAC doesn't help.

My girl's 99 Grand Cherokee had some TC shudder and I put of bottle of Lucas trans stop slip in and she has noticed the transmission acting smoother.

[MyTMerc]

I was having this same problem right before MV9. Had the dealer do a transmission flush and fill on. I had read of similar issues on various threads. It sounded like I was driving over sleep strips. Problem was solved immediately but my wallet was much lighter.

[Ozark Marauder]

mine bucked like a bronco...turned out to be a coil........

[blkZooM]

Called a dealer near me and they priced a transmission oil change at at $179 plus tax's, which is a little steep for me at the moment, but I'm going to buy the shudder oil on my way to work. Start out with the easy things and work my way up to the more expensive stuff

[ctrlraven]

The cheapest thing would be to get some CRC Electronic Cleaner and clean the MAF and IAC first.

I would advise against adding anything to your trans fluid if it's already over filled.

[CBT]

mine bucked like a bronco...turned out to be a coil........

That was my first "experience", second time wasn't nearly as bad, just a little shuddering on de-celeration, I just took parts off and cleaned them like folks say. No probs. Now I clean them on the regular and sea-foam about 2 times a year, no problems in about 3 or 4 years since.

[blkZooM]

So on my way home not to long ago my O/D light started flashing. Is this bad news?

[MyBlackBeasts]

So on my way home not to long ago my O/D light started flashing. Is this bad news?

All the ideas mentioned are good and you should try cheapest 1st & work your way up.

The very 1st thing you should do (and the cheapest) is correct the fluid level!!! Automatic transmissions (especially the 4R70W/4R75W like someone else mentioned) do not like being overfilled. They will act up in all kinds of ways.

1) Drain some fluid and get the level where it should be
2) Clean the items CBT mentioned
3) If problem corrected, flush ATF & change filter as soon as you have funds. If not corrected, do it now no matter what the funds say. If you continue to drive till $$ is convenient you might destroy the trans and go from a few bucks to thousands of bucks...

Good luck! :coolman:

[blkZooM]

All the ideas mentioned are good and you should try cheapest 1st & work your way up.

The very 1st thing you should do (and the cheapest) is correct the fluid level!!! Automatic transmissions (especially the 4R70W/4R75W like someone else mentioned) do not like being overfilled. They will act up in all kinds of ways.

1) Drain some fluid and get the level where it should be
2) Clean the items CBT mentioned
3) If problem corrected, flush ATF & change filter as soon as you have funds. If not corrected, do it now no matter what the funds say. If you continue to drive till $$ is convenient you might destroy the trans and go from a few bucks to thousands of bucks...

Good luck! :coolman:

Okay, i'm off this weekend so I'm trying all that I'm able to do, how do I go about correcting the fluid level the transmission needs.

Is draining it to the correct amount as simply as when I change my oil or is there more too it (sorry just never done it before), and what I am kind of worried about is draining too much of the trans oil and not having enough then mixing what ever is in there as of right now with what was recommended to me.

[guspech750]

Okay, i'm off this weekend so I'm trying all that I'm able to do, how do I go about correcting the fluid level the transmission needs.

Is draining it to the correct amount as simply as when I change my oil or is there more too it (sorry just never done it before), and what I am kind of worried about is draining too much of the trans oil and not having enough then mixing what ever is in there as of right now with what was recommended to me.

Easy way to drain your trans. Buy fluid, filter and a drain plug. Drill a hole on the backside of the pan. Drain fluid. Take off pan, clean it and make a bigger hole for your new drain plug. Install drain plug. Change filter. Put the pan back on. And refill from the trans dipstick tube.

And most of all. Have fun. :D


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[CBT]

Easy way to drain your trans. Buy fluid, filter and a drain plug. Drill a hole on the backside of the pan. Drain fluid. Take off pan, clean it and make a bigger hole for your new drain plug. Install drain plug. Change filter. Put the pan back on. And refill from the trans dipstick tube.

And most of all. Have fun. :D


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Hey do you have pics of this drain mod and what sized tap? I may do this when I do my j-mod.

[guspech750]

Hey do you have pics of this drain mod and what sized tap? I may do this when I do my j-mod.

No tap required. There is a nut on both sides of the plug.


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[CBT]

No tap required. There is a nut on both sides of the plug.


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What's the part number and where'd ya get it?

[ctrlraven]

Or you could buy a deep trans pan that has a hole on the bottom of the pan which will allow more fluid to drain instead of a drain plug on the back of the pan.

[guspech750]

Not much more fluid can come out from this spot. And only for the expensive price of $2 or $3. It's total WIN!!

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[CBT]

Not much more fluid can come out from this spot. And only for the expensive price of $2 or $3. It's total WIN!!

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Okay we are half the way to what I asked for now WHATS THE PART NUMBER, ***** !!!!

[justbob]

Okay we are half the way to what I asked for now WHATS THE PART NUMBER, ***** !!!!

Casey, its just a standard drain plug at any auto part store that is designed for a 1/2" hole. I got mine at napa years ago. What's near you, I'll look for one and get you a number homeslice.

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[CBT]

Casey, its just a standard drain plug at any auto part store that is designed for a 1/2" hole. I got mine at napa years ago. What's near you, I'll look for one and get you a number homeslice.

This post is rated E for everyone.

Meh, I'll figure it out, joe is no help, lol.
J-mod is gonna happen. :beer:

[guspech750]

Meh, I'll figure it out, joe is no help, lol.
J-mod is gonna happen. :beer:

Yuz aintz do'n no mofo J-mod!! Yuz tooz stuuupidz yo!!:D


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[RF Overlord]

Have someone bump the starter until you can see the drain plug on the torque converterNot on a Marauder. Ford eliminated the TC drain plug in 2001.


they told me to pick up a red tube of " INSTANT SHUDDER FIX "
the original from DR. Trannny this is a product that contains friction modifiers that eliminated 'converter shudder' problems .While this product does do what it claims, it's a band-aid. If the transmission fluid's additive pack is depleted to the point that the friction modifier needs to be replenished, then ALL the fluid needs to be drained and replaced.

[71cyclone]

Correct "U " are [ Cousin ] RF OVERlord /The fluid was flushed and the additive was added a week later because of intermittent shudder. Shudder WAS bad prior to flushing . ATI racing said try it and see .If no avail then we would be glad to re due your tranny ATI style. 2nd flushuing within 60 thousand miles. Thanx for info

[blkZooM]

Is it okay to use what I used to clean my mass air flow sensor on the throttle body?

[blkZooM]

So I cleaned the the mafs, got the throttle body tho I wasn't able to take it all the way off, i could not find the IAC.. once I find out how to post pictures Ill show how they looked was all black inside.

I purchased a the car with a K&N CAI, when would I know it needs to be cleaned being that I have no idea when it was put in

[RF Overlord]

Is it okay to use what I used to clean my mass air flow sensor on the throttle body?Um...what did you use? If it was anything but MAF cleaner or electrical contact cleaner that leaves no reside, then no...

And the MAF isn't on the throttle body, it's the piece attached to the airbox.


I purchased a the car with a K&N CAI, when would I know it needs to be cleaned being that I have no idea when it was put inI'm not a fan of oiled air filters. Many people have had issues with them shedding oil, which then gunks-up the MAF causing all sorts of driveability issues. The only way to be sure it's cleaned and oiled properly is to buy their kit and follow the directions exactly.

[Phrog_gunner]

I'm not a fan of oiled air filters. Many people have had issues with them shedding oil, which then gunks-up the MAF causing all sorts of driveability issues.

Just my experience with this: I probably clean and oil my K&N more than most. About a day or so after I oil the filter, I got a very slight and rare "anomaly" at idle. It's not as severe as a miss or anything like that and I don't think it's even in the same ballpark as a driveability issue. Once this happened I cleaned the MAF and it was good until the next filter cleaning. The next time I cleaned the filter I didn't use as much oil on the filter and I let it soak in longer before installing and I haven't had a problem since (haven't had to clean the MAF after cleaning/oiling the filter).

[CBT]

So I cleaned the the mafs, got the throttle body tho I wasn't able to take it all the way off, i could not find the IAC.. once I find out how to post pictures Ill show how they looked was all black inside.

I purchased a the car with a K&N CAI, when would I know it needs to be cleaned being that I have no idea when it was put in


Here it are:

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[ctrlraven]

When cleaning the K&N filter use as little oil as possible and let it soak a long time. If you see any spots that were messed just give it a quick small shot. I clean my MAF and IAC every 6 months, clean the K&N filter every 12 months.

To remove the IAC, unplug the connector and remove the two bolts. I've always used CRC Electronic Cleaner on it just to be safe. When you remove it just watch for the paper gasket and don't lose it. Give it a good spray, let it dry and reinstall. Don't forget to reconnect the connector.