New best run at E-town today, Nov 20th.

[Blackened300a]

Hitting the track for the season finale. I have about 30 other cars coming with me, any Marauder guys coming down?

Hoping to break my 13.6 record.

[03sport007]

Good luck!!!!!

[Bigdogjim]

Great day for it, good luck!!

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Hitting the track for the season finale. I have about 30 other cars coming with me, any Marauder guys coming down?

Hoping to break my 13.6 record.


How did you do?

[Blackened300a]

Great day for racing except for all the ricers spilling oil all over the track and breaking down!

First run....
I lined up against a 2011 Camaro V-6 as soon as I pulled out of tech, I decided to try a different way to launch the car. Normally I would flash the convertor off the line and this always seemed to work the best for me. Today I figured I'll trying stalling the convertor at 2500 RPMs and see how that works. Also while I was in the pit area I put on my A/C to cause I was warm sitting on line well at the end of the track I realized that I left it on!! :o
That run on a heat soaked engine, AC on, and a stalled launch was a 13.995@96mph with a 2.052 60ft time to the Camaro's 14.821@98.56 and a 2.324 60ft time. I hooked up, he spun.

Here's the race......
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Second run....
I had a 2 hour cool down before making this pass so I knew it was going to be a chance to break my record of 13.639. I lined up against a Pontiac G8 GT with a intake on it. He never ran at the track so I figured it would probably be a great race. I do my burnout in 1st gear and then roll up to stage. On the last yellow I leave with a .146 RT to his .426 so I jump out the hole quick and saw on the board that I pulled a 1.941 60ft time so I knew this was going to be a fast run right up until I heard my engine bouncing off the limiter and I then noticed that I never took the car out of 1st gear after my burnout! :mad2::mad2:
I put it in drive and tried to salvage the run with a 14.372@96 mph. to the G8s 13.414@105mph. If I would have completed my run without this hiccup it probably would have been a neck and neck race to the very end.

Here's the run....
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Final run....
Another ricer blew up on the track and shut us down for another hour and a half. So my car once again cooled down to where I wanted it so I knew that I would need to make this run count no matter what. The same 2011 Camaro from the first run wanted another run at me with a different driver this time. We lined up and I did my usual 1st gear burnout (and put it back in drive!), the Camaro did his best John Force impression and just blasted the tires off the back of the car to make sure it hooked. We lined up and I once again left him at the line with a .146 RT to his .426 RT and I pulled another 1.940 60ft time and at the end of the 1/4........
New best time of 13.595@99MPH!!!! :banana2:

Here's the run....
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[Papillon]

"Yes!!!" I couldn't contain my excitement! :D


(And yes, that IS what she said!)

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[TAKEDOWN]

Awesome job Baby!!!

[Seneca]

Good Job Paul!!! Thats gettin it done!!

[RacerX]

"Yes!!!" I couldn't contain my excitement! :D


(And yes, that IS what she said!)

:banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:
We can hear right at the end! ;) Nice run! :beer:

[babbage]

Nice job Paul! Congrats - only another .5 to go! ;)

How cold was it?

[Pops]

Good job Paul! You will get there soon. Looks like Russ is the big dog of the NA cars now that he has gone 13.4 with his NA car. Its tough to find the little tweaks to get them to faster. Mt hat is off to you for not giving up!!!!:banana2:

[Blackened300a]

Good job Paul! You will get there soon. Looks like Russ is the big dog of the NA cars now that he has gone 13.4 with his NA car. Its tough to find the little tweaks to get them to faster. Mt hat is off to you for not giving up!!!!:banana2:

Thanks John. Temps were in the 60s so I wanna try some 40-50 degree runs with my race gas tune and see how I do then. I have a chance to run in Dec so I may get a chance to dip a little lower into the 13s.

[Blackened300a]

Nice job Paul! Congrats - only another .5 to go! ;)

How cold was it?

Thanks! The tune works. ;)

[2,4shofast]

That is a very good time! Thanks for posting the Videos, it makes it that much better :)

[05crownsport]

Congratulations! Good luck shaving those tenths off to get down into the low 13s.

[rayjay]

Congrats Paul, great run!

[ctrlraven]

Congrats..... for now my nemesis. lol

[Blackened300a]

Congrats..... for now my nemesis. lol

I have another track run left in me before the year is over. :D

[Papillon]

Congrats..... for now my nemesis. lol


I have another track run left in me before the year is over. :D


Chris, I just Googled and you're only (:rolleyes:) 3 and a half hours from E-Town. How's about you meet Paul there and we see who's BAWS?!! Lol :D

[Blackened300a]

Chris, I just Googled and you're only (:rolleyes:) 3 and a half hours from E-Town. How's about you meet Paul there and we see who's BAWS?!! Lol :D

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[Mr. Man]

:congrats: Paul on a great run.

Hope V was able to bum a cigarette after your last run:beatnik::D

[SILVERSURFER03]

Great pass looks like you had a blast

[Krytin]

:congrats: Paul on a great run.

Hope V was able to bum a cigarette after your last run:beatnik::D
You are sooooo bad Eric:lol:

Great run and hot video!!:P

[Papillon]

Your minds are always in the gutter :bop1:. Lol

[Krytin]

Eric made me do it!

[ctrlraven]

Chris, I just Googled and you're only (:rolleyes:) 3 and a half hours from E-Town. How's about you meet Paul there and we see who's BAWS?!! Lol :D


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Still need to do a compression & leak-down test AND get a new tune. My tax refund and work bonus will take care of the new tune and some other :burnout: stuff I have in mind.

[Papillon]

Still need to do a compression & leak-down test AND get a new tune. My tax refund and work bonus will take care of the new tune and some other :burnout: stuff I have in mind.


Bah. Excuses. Excuses. :D

I'm dying to see you 2 go head to head. We'll have to plan something in spring after you boys have gotten all your ducks in a row.

Btw... I know a great guy you can get a tune from........ :rolleyes:

[rayjay]

Your minds are always in the gutter :bop1:. Lol

and you ladies wouldn't have it any other way... :D

[Ms. Denmark]

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[Joe Walsh]

Congrats Paul!!!

So are you the only one left in the OEM engine -> 12s race??

A few observations:

1: Amazing how that bloated Camaro actually makes a Marauder look small.
(I'm glad that the new GT500 will beatch slap the ZL1 back to the drawing board)

2: Ricer blowing up and shutting down the track for hours.
That is such a regular occurence, that those turds should be banned from the track and left to kill each other on back streets while trying to immitate The Fast & the Furious.
I've seen so many POS Hondas bouncing off the rev limiters while spinning their front tires (FAIL!) just before puking 4 rods out onto the starting line.
Honda boys.....in the garage, keep your weedeater toys!

3: Pontiac G8 sedan...:2thumbs:
Another great car that was discontinued wayyyy too early.
I'd like a G8 GXP 6 speed in the garage next to my Marauder.

[ctrlraven]

Bah. Excuses. Excuses. :D

I'm dying to see you 2 go head to head. We'll have to plan something in spring after you boys have gotten all your ducks in a row.

Btw... I know a great guy you can get a tune from........ :rolleyes:

No excuses, just the truth. Believe me ever since MV5 when Paul walked away from me when we had a little friendly run out near the hotel I was like oh it's game on now. No better grudge racing that good friendly grudge racing. :beer:

[na svt]

Hitting the track for the season finale...
Hoping to break my 13.6 record.

What are your mods? I've been itching to work with someone in getting their stock block, n/a MM into the 12s.

-96-98 cobra cams will knock off a couple tenths
-degreed to 106/114 they'll knock even more time

What's your RPM at the end of the 1/4?

Stock cam timing is a killer and the only reason these cars need a lotta gear.

[Papillon]

No excuses, just the truth. Believe me ever since MV5 when Paul walked away from me when we had a little friendly run out near the hotel I was like oh it's game on now. No better grudge racing that good friendly grudge racing. :beer:

I know. I was just bustin ya chops. :hug: Besides, to be honest, I'd rather Paul NOT run the car until that bad gas is outta the car and this pinging situation is cleared up. I tell ya, every time we go to the track, I think I'm more nervous than he is. I can do without the palpitations for a few more months :D.

[ctrlraven]

I know. I was just bustin ya chops. :hug: Besides, to be honest, I'd rather Paul NOT run the car until that bad gas is outta the car and this pinging situation is cleared up. I tell ya, every time we go to the track, I think I'm more nervous than he is. I can do without the palpitations for a few more months :D.
Exactly, same reason why I'd not like to run my car until do I a compression and leak-down test and get a new tune.

[Blackened300a]

What are your mods? I've been itching to work with someone in getting their stock block, n/a MM into the 12s.

-96-98 cobra cams will knock off a couple tenths
-degreed to 106/114 they'll knock even more time

What's your RPM at the end of the 1/4?

Stock cam timing is a killer and the only reason these cars need a lotta gear.

My mods are in my garage link in my sig. I been wanting cams, but the money/labor vs power factor makes it a deal breaker unless I find a great deal on installation and parts. I don't have confidence in myself to open this thing up and be able to degree the cams correctly. At the end of the 1/4, I never really looked at the tach, I imagine in the 5500 RPM range. Once I get this tank of bad gas out of the car and I can actually drive it, I'll have a accurate answer. I was considering going with a set of 4.30's for the rear and then play with my tire sizes to get some more RPM out of it. My times are very consistant, my 60' and 1/8 mile times are identical after 2 runs. Just what would have been my best run ended up being my worst due to driver error. :o
I'm open to suggestions and ideas to get this thing into the 12's.

[na svt]

My mods are in my garage link in my sig. I been wanting cams, but the money/labor vs power factor makes it a deal breaker unless I find a great deal on installation and parts. I don't have confidence in myself to open this thing up and be able to degree the cams correctly. At the end of the 1/4, I never really looked at the tach, I imagine in the 5500 RPM range. Once I get this tank of bad gas out of the car and I can actually drive it, I'll have a accurate answer. I was considering going with a set of 4.30's for the rear and then play with my tire sizes to get some more RPM out of it. My times are very consistant, my 60' and 1/8 mile times are identical after 2 runs. Just what would have been my best run ended up being my worst due to driver error. :o
I'm open to suggestions and ideas to get this thing into the 12's.

If you're running a stock diameter tire the 4.10s will not be enough gear to get you into the 12s. Cobra cams installed at the LCs I recommend will get you much closer but more gear will be needed. I'd like to see the RPMs at the end much closer to 6300. If it were my car would not hesitate to go with 4.56s because the stock diameter tire makes them like a 4.30 in a mustang (26" dia tire).

I need to change my settings so that I see sigs.

[ctrlraven]

255/50-16 drag radials, turned my 4.10s into a 4.51 effective rear gear.

[na svt]

I can now see your mods. More gear or more stall are needed. A ported intake will also help.

I recommend cobra intake cams or custom intake cams and a ported intake before going swapping gears. Those two mods alone could reduce ET 3 to 5 tenths.

[Blackened300a]

I can now see your mods. More gear or more stall are needed. A ported intake will also help.

I recommend cobra intake cams or custom intake cams and a ported intake before going swapping gears. Those two mods alone could reduce ET 3 to 5 tenths.

I have that short runner intake from Naz performance that ended up breaking on me twice. On the dyno it gave little peak hp but made the power band straight with no drop off.
If I go with a smaller tire, what would you suggest? I can also adjust the MPH I shift at. Pops (John) told me that shifting around 6900 would put the RPM in the sweet spot and maintain my power in between gears.
I priced out some cams from comp, and the price was close to $1200 just for the cams, then installation and finding someone who can degree them properly would jack up the costs.
I wanna make another run in the cooler temps and perhaps try out my race gas tune to really see where I'm at.

[na svt]

I have that short runner intake from Naz performance that ended up breaking on me twice. On the dyno it gave little peak hp but made the power band straight with no drop off.
If I go with a smaller tire, what would you suggest? I can also adjust the MPH I shift at. Pops (John) told me that shifting around 6900 would put the RPM in the sweet spot and maintain my power in between gears.
I priced out some cams from comp, and the price was close to $1200 just for the cams, then installation and finding someone who can degree them properly would jack up the costs.

Custom intake cams that use stock springs would run $600 and provide a 30rwhp gain. Comps from RPM outlet cost $950.

A 6900rpm shift point is okay for the 1-2 shift because of the big drop in RPM to 2nd gear. 2-3 should be in the 6300 range.

With the MM's weight you should be able to hook with a 245/45/17DR. Any 26" dia DR will work, the greater the sidewall the better. I can get my 245/45/17s to hook and my Mach is much lighter.

Are you still using the short runner?

Drive it to Ohio and leave it for the winter.

[Blackened300a]

Custom intake cams that use stock springs would run $600 and provide a 30rwhp gain. Comps from RPM outlet cost $950.

A 6900rpm shift point is okay for the 1-2 shift because of the big drop in RPM to 2nd gear. 2-3 should be in the 6300 range.

With the MM's weight you should be able to hook with a 245/45/17DR. Any 26" dia DR will work, the greater the sidewall the better. I can get my 245/45/17s to hook and my Mach is much lighter.

Are you still using the short runner?

Drive it to Ohio and leave it for the winter.

I have to get the short runner fixed. The welds cracked yet again and I was quoted $450+shipping to have it repaired.
I have some tires in my shop or I'll try to find a cheap set to try. I guess change the tire diameter in the tune?

Thanks for the offer but Dayton is a 14 hour drive for me and I could never be that far from the car for months!

Have a vacation week to spend in NYC? :D

[na svt]

I have to get the short runner fixed. The welds cracked yet again and I was quoted $450+shipping to have it repaired.
I have some tires in my shop or I'll try to find a cheap set to try. I guess change the tire diameter in the tune?

Thanks for the offer but Dayton is a 14 hour drive for me and I could never be that far from the car for months!

I can do repair it for much less than $450, probably more like $150 shipped.

I would like to go to NYC for a short vacation...

[ctrlraven]

With the MM's weight you should be able to hook with a 245/45/17DR. Any 26" dia DR will work, the greater the sidewall the better. I can get my 245/45/17s to hook and my Mach is much lighter.

Are you still using the short runner?

Drive it to Ohio and leave it for the winter.
Would you recommend the 245/45-17 over the 255/50-16?
I have 4.10s and 3500 stall.

[na svt]

Would you recommend the 245/45-17 over the 255/50-16?
I recommend the 255/50-16

[na svt]

Here's how my power curve looks with only a K&N and 96-98 cobra intake cams at 107.5 and the exhaust cams at 112. It still has a stock intake and exhaust manifolds. It also has 4.10s and a Circle D "2C" converter.

As you can see, the longer duration cams do not hurt tq when installed correctly.

Future mods will include small diameter pulleys, small diameter damper, LT headers, ported intake, TB and RAI/CAIs. I'll dyno after each mod and post the results. BTW, the engine in my Mach was removed from a wrecked MM in Indianapolis.


http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9897/mymachcobracams.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/mymachcobracams.jpg/)

[Joe Walsh]

I have to get the short runner fixed. The welds cracked yet again and I was quoted $450+shipping to have it repaired.
I have some tires in my shop or I'll try to find a cheap set to try. I guess change the tire diameter in the tune?

Thanks for the offer but Dayton is a 14 hour drive for me and I could never be that far from the car for months!

Have a vacation week to spend in NYC? :D

Paul,
I've still got that set of used 555R Nitto P305/45-18 Drag Radials.
I need money for my wounded 5.0 and am selling them cheap.
The problem is the $$$ to ship them!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=71078

I'd let the set go for $150.

[Blackened300a]

I can do repair it for much less than $450, probably more like $150 shipped.

I would like to go to NYC for a short vacation...

Ill gladly send it out to you. I'll cover the cost and shipping, do you take PayPal? If not I'll get a money order out to you.

How long do you think it would take to install and total cost for cams if you came to the city? I have a garage so we aren't sitting outside in the cold doing this.

[na svt]

Ill gladly send it out to you. I'll cover the cost and shipping, do you take PayPal? If not I'll get a money order out to you.

How long do you think it would take to install and total cost for cams if you came to the city? I have a garage so we aren't sitting outside in the cold doing this.

The time it takes to do the install and degreeing is about 4 hours if the front cover and valve covers are already removed. I'd do the install and degreeing for $200. I need to talk the "significant other" into a trip.

[ctrlraven]

Paul, want to buy my legendary drag radials? Same ones Joe Walsh used on this high 12 runs and I used on my 13.630 run. lol

[na svt]

What's the quickest n/a 1/4 mile by a Marauder? I'm sensing it's gonna be quite a bit lower by the end of next year's racing season.

[na svt]

Ill gladly send it out to you. I'll cover the cost and shipping, do you take PayPal? If not I'll get a money order out to you.

How long do you think it would take to install and total cost for cams if you came to the city? I have a garage so we aren't sitting outside in the cold doing this.

I do take paypal, nasvt at yahoo (nasvt@yahoo)

[ctrlraven]

What's the quickest n/a 1/4 mile by a Marauder? I'm sensing it's gonna be quite a bit lower by the end of next year's racing season.
Officially on record is 13.23 I believe. Unofficially is 13.00 by some guy who never posted besides trying to offload his car I think and the mod list never added up to equal a 13.00.

I just want to get over the 13.5x hump with a stock motor that has not been opened up. I still have headers and intake porting that can be done.

[mike P71]

Great run Paul. The videos are great but it looked better in person.!

[Blackened300a]

The time it takes to do the install and degreeing is about 4 hours if the front cover and valve covers are already removed. I'd do the install and degreeing for $200. I need to talk the "significant other" into a trip.
We'll be in touch.

Paul, want to buy my legendary drag radials? Same ones Joe Walsh used on this high 12 runs and I used on my 13.630 run. lol
How much?

[Bluerauder]

What's the quickest n/a 1/4 mile by a Marauder?


Officially on record is 13.23 I believe. Unofficially is 13.00 by some guy who never posted besides trying to offload his car I think and the mod list never added up to equal a 13.00.

• “Cruztaker” sets N/A Marauder 1/4 mile record at 13.270 @ 103.21 (October 2004, Mason-Dixon Dragway, MD) & gets Best Burnout trophy

He had this time in the timeslips section for years until he went S/C in 2008-2009. He never broke that 13.27 time from October 2004 (after trying for 4 more years) and as far as I know, no one else has either. I was there the night he made the run along with alot of the original CAM members. I may even have a video of the run somewhere. :o

[ctrlraven]

We'll be in touch.

How much?
I was just kidding. lol These are the old BFG tires they you must john force burnout to get really warm and sticky. The newer ones you don't have to so much and I think have a better contact surface. Could get a set of the new tires and mount them on steelies, old 99-04 16" V6 wheels or even 2005-2010 16" V6 wheels.

New version
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-selector/size/pmetric/255/50/16/tires
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/mediabin/Approved/BFGoodrich/Completed%20Graphics/Digital/tire-g-force-t-a-drag-radial-results.jpg

Old version mounted on 16" cvpi steelies
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF1242Medium.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/marauder/DSCF1241Medium.jpg


• “Cruztaker” sets N/A Marauder 1/4 mile record at 13.270 @ 103.21 (October 2004, Mason-Dixon Dragway, MD) & gets Best Burnout trophy

He had this time in the timeslips section for years until he went S/C in 2008-2009. He never broke that 13.27 time from October 2004 (after trying for 4 more years) and as far as I know, no one else has either. I was there the night he made the run along with alot of the original CAM members. I may even have a video of the run somewhere. :o
I was close! lol

[Joe Walsh]

Hey Chris!....those BFG DRs look familiar!

[ctrlraven]

Hey Chris!....those BFG DRs look familiar!
Yes sir! I still have and used them back in April at Capitol.