All lowered marauders in here

[01LXHPP]

Tomorrow (well, today actually) I'm having a new set of nittos put on the front of my car, next up I want to lower it.... My car for whatever reason already sits lower then an average MM, compared to my friends 03 300A my car sits a full half inch lower. But I have seen two MM's with a 1.5" drop (one with eaton springs, one with eibachs) and I love how it looks....


So, I'm torn between doing a 1" or 1.5" drop. I don't think the 1" looks low enough for me, however I'm afraid of scraping like a snow plow with 1.5".


Anyways, if you have a lowered marauder post some pictures up and post your setup. I'd love a picture of the front showing the wheel and fender so I can see the gap in between them and how low the front bumper is.

Thanks :beer:


Edit: I think this might be what I'm going for.... I just hope it doesn't make the stock 18's look to small in person

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e61/jus4kix79/DSC_0490.jpg

[jus4kix03MM]

Hey thats my car! Lol.

[justbob]

One coil cut. Keep in mind every MM will sit differently doing this depending on mileage. Mines at 85,000 and was cut at probably 45,000.
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefd09b8-370a-0254.jpg

This post is rated E for everyone.

[Bigdogjim]

I don't have to cut a coil to lower my marauder...I just get in and sit down:lol:

[TAKEDOWN]

^^^ Well, just lower the front passenger side then! ^^^

[SILVERSURFER03]

I cut a coil plus on mine and to me it looks great

[01LXHPP]

Hey thats my car! Lol.

Yes, I love the stance of your car :beer:



I don't have to cut a coil to lower my marauder...I just get in and sit down:lol:

well played sir, well played

[ctrlraven]

If you cut the front coil, make sure you take a before and after measurement of the ride height also cut the same amount of coil on both coils.

[01LXHPP]

If you cut the front coil, make sure you take a before and after measurement of the ride height also cut the same amount of coil on both coils.

I'm gonna buy a set of eaton lowering springs, to be honest I don't trust the cut coil method. I'd rather spend 160 on a set of springs.

[2,4shofast]

My Marauder with one full coil cut dropped about 1.6"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/shofast/MM/Marauders390of447.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/shofast/MM/DSC06389.jpg

[ctrlraven]

The Marauder factory front coils are the police interceptor coils, they have a pretty high spring rate. Some have bought the Eibach, (don't know about the Eaton ones) and will say it has a stiffer ride. The spring rate on the PI coils even with 3/4 to one coil cut should still have a fairly high spring rate compared to aftermarket ones. As long as you are not cutting the coil with heat and using a metal cutting wheel of some sort the coil will be fine. Dozens of members have cut their coils and been riding around for sometime like that with no problems.

[01LXHPP]

My Marauder with one full coil cut dropped about 1.6"





mmmm, that looks nice


The Marauder factory front coils are the police interceptor coils, they have a pretty high spring rate. Some have bought the Eibach, (don't know about the Eaton ones) and will say it has a stiffer ride. The spring rate on the PI coils even with 3/4 to one coil cut should still have a fairly high spring rate compared to aftermarket ones. As long as you are not cutting the coil with heat and using a metal cutting wheel of some sort the coil will be fine. Dozens of members have cut their coils and been riding around for sometime like that with no problems.

Its not the spring rate thats the problem... when you cut the coil, instead of it resting on a full ring, it justs rests on a point now. I'd like to sound more technical in my jargon but I'm to tired right now. Point being, it just seems like a bad idea to have the whole front resting on one little point of the coil.

[Phrog_gunner]

Its not the spring rate thats the problem... when you cut the coil, instead of it resting on a full ring, it justs rests on a point now. I'd like to sound more technical in my jargon but I'm to tired right now. Point being, it just seems like a bad idea to have the whole front resting on one little point of the coil.

If you cut one full coil, how does it sit any differently in the mount since your starting point (the end of the coil) is still in the exact same place, you are now just one coil shorter??

[DEFYANT]

http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/gallery/files/6/4/DCP_2363_thumb.jpg (http://www.motorcitymarauders.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1602&c=3&userid=64)

An old pic, but still accurate. One coil cut.

[Krytin]

Its not the spring rate thats the problem... when you cut the coil, instead of it resting on a full ring, it justs rests on a point now. I'd like to sound more technical in my jargon but I'm to tired right now. Point being, it just seems like a bad idea to have the whole front resting on one little point of the coil.

No, it doesn't. Ask me how I know. (check the sig.)

[Black&Gifted]

No, it doesn't. Ask me how I know. (check the sig.)

Agreed. Once the spring is compressed and the shock mount on, it pretty much will sit on close to a full coil.

[ImpalaSlayer]

1 coil cut, zero effect on ride, looks fawking awesome. the spring will sit exactly as it does stock, you cut it off the big end, not the beehive end
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1253.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/IMG_1251.jpg

[05crownsport]

This was an Eaton 1-1/2 inch drop spring which didn't drop it at all...
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/05crownsport/IMG_20110208_175434.jpg
Until I cut one coil out of it.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l610/05crownsport/IMG_20110716_102825.jpg

[stevengerard]

Eibachs 1.5 lower with coilovers

[Hotrauder]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/8/5/5/fruitpunch-jason.jpg

Nittos and Naake adjustable compression and rebound front and rear. Dennis

[rossv1]

I did 1 1/2 inch drop on the front with Eaton Springs as well. Worked out very well, except I scrape a bit on certain driveways since i have the chin spoiler as well.

http://s1087.photobucket.com/albums/j480/fubu992000usa/

[mgmsleeper]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/8/5/5/fruitpunch-jason.jpg

Nittos and Naake adjustable compression and rebound front and rear. Dennis

Nice look with lower and chin spoiler

[vkirkend]

I don't have to cut a coil to lower my marauder...I just get in and sit down:lol:

Ditto..........

[DEFYANT]

Dontchya love threads that give you an excuse to post a pic of your Marauder?

[05crownsport]

Dontchya love threads that give you an excuse to post a pic of your Marauder?

Umm...ehhhhhemmmm. cough, cough, I'm in the room! :lol:

[rossv1]

Eaton springs are stiff as well. I never used Eibachs or cut a coil so I can't compare, but if you pair them up with KYB Gas-A-Just shocks the ride will be much smoother.

[Pontelloman01]

I'm new here so cut me some slack, but the people I've talked to seem to think cutting springs is a really bad idea, but I'm not opposed to it...yet. Any tips for lowering a CVPI by means of chopping the springs? The wheel gap I currently have is appalling to say the least.

[justbob]

I'm new here so cut me some slack, but the people I've talked to seem to think cutting springs is a really bad idea, but I'm not opposed to it...yet. Any tips for lowering a CVPI by means of chopping the springs? The wheel gap I currently have is appalling to say the least.

They are miss informed and heard too many stories. I used to think the same. One thing about our springs is they can easily lose a coil or so and not change much at all. This can not be said for the majority of cars out there. Many of us did this years ago and still have the same spring today. I noticed MAYBE 5% stiffer ride, but more noticebly a much lower center of gravity and way better handling.

[Pontelloman01]

So I guess being re-assured it's okay to cut them, my question would be 1 coil is equal to XXX inches of drop? I mean there may be some difference between the CVPI OEM springs cut and OEM marauder springs cut, but idk if anyone can help me out there. in addition, I'm not certain but aren't rear springs pigtailed on both ends? does that create a problem when they're cut?

[justbob]

I believe the front springs are the same. Difference in drop will always be different per vehicle dependant on mileage. I have lowered a few local Marauders and average 5/8", then about 7/8" after a week or so. Long term seems to be about an 1 1/4 max after a year and never goes beyond that. Don't sound like much, but looks wise, it appears more. I don't know anything about the rear springs on a vic, they might not like being cut? If I haven't done it myself, I will not steer you into it. Maybe ask crownvic.net?

[Pontelloman01]

Yeah the rears people seem to cut all the time, but there's never any how-to (top or bottom of spring? tips? ect). In the car craft article on the vic build that john mcgann is doing he got coil-over like setup in front and chopped the rears, and on widened steelies out back it looks phenomenal.

[STEPS]

I plan to cut one full coil off my front springs this week to lower my 03 MM I still confused of how to lower the rear. I think I'm to turn off the air shock with the switch in the trunk (right) then remover the 10 mm bolt and slide bracket to the front of the car then replace the the two bolts the 8 mm bolt in the rear and the 10 mm bolt in the front this will re-lock the bracket??? this is where I'm unfocussed. do I have to drill and tap or are the bolts riding in slots and how far do I slide the bracket froward ????? ( as you can see I don't know) anyone please help.Thanks

[STEPS]

Just found this and answered my question.
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I too found the rear a little too high,so heres the fix...............
Saftey First! Open the trunk and turn the air suspention off.
Grab a tape measure and measure the frame hight from the ground to the bottom of the frame.I measured from a flat part on the frame in the front just behind the front wheel-note that the frame has a doubled area I measured just behind the doubled area, 5 1/4" to the ground,oh plus 3 1/4" for the body of the tape so it's about 8 1/2"
I then measured the rear 9 1/4".
Next find an 8mm wrench and an 11mm. I used 1/4" drive sockets.
Slide under the rear of the car,don't jack it up.Find the sensor,it's located on the left WATTS link support arm.The WATTS link is located forward of and attached too the rear end housing.The arms run diaganally across the car,left to right.The sensor is mounted on the left arm.
Then looking forward loosen the sensor mount and slide it toward the left of the car.
Slide out from under the car,turn the air back on and start the car.Note nothing moved. :confused:
Get in the car and drive it up and down the driveway or slowly around the block,park the car EXACTLY in the same spot and note how low the back is now!AGH!
Turn off the suspention switch and slide back under the car and move the sensor to the right about 1/8"tighten it up turn the switch on and start the car it should go up about 1/2" or so,repeat untill you got it where you want it.
Mine now has 1/4" of rake front to rear.
As for the front it's a little more work I'm sure............



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cyclone03,

After adjusting the sensor, just open and close one of the doors with the key in the ON position. The air suspension should adjust to the new height. You don't need to drive it around the block....

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[JBeezy]

Hope you guys that going to cut coils have better results than I did. I cut 1 coil and mine didnt drop at all. Posted results and some questioned me. Someone came in and said I should have loosened the bushings so it could drop some. I went back and did that and still nothing. Like I read in a post above, maybe it's just the low mileage of the springs. My car had 35xxx miles or so when done. I now have 40k miles or so

[STEPS]

I have just turned 40k

[Taemian]

Necro thread alert. Most of the pics here aren't accessible anymore.

Looking to give mine the full suspension treatment, any recent lowered pictures?

[2,4shofast]

Photobucket seemed to kill a lot of threads, I don't drive the car much anymore but here are the most recent pics I have. Same set up as listed above. The last pic has a better close up of the wheel gap.




https://i.imgur.com/XGv0B14.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3M3PWAr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Xgnd9Pu.jpg

[Taemian]

Thanks, I have the stock rims so I'm wondering what kind of profile I need to fill the wheel arches. I have the rear rims widened from stock 8 inches to 9 1/2 so The side profile can be slightly taller than average

[RubberCtyRauder]

either cut a coil in front or go to coilovers in front and adjust the rear ride height air spring sensor. i have coilovers and lowered rear.

[Taemian]

either cut a coil in front or go to coilovers in front and adjust the rear ride height air spring sensor. i have coilovers and lowered rear.

Thanks! That's what I'm looking to do.

[detrailers]

Thanks, I have the stock rims so I'm wondering what kind of profile I need to fill the wheel arches. I have the rear rims widened from stock 8 inches to 9 1/2 so The side profile can be slightly taller than average
I did the one Coil and adjusted the RAS and it came out perfect, stock wheels like you... Stock tire sizes too. And if you do it you absolutely have to do the chin spoiler...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/250x200q90/923/rvFHJl.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pnrvFHJlj)

[mm svt]

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Holy old thread alert.
Here’s Riley’s car

[BAD MERC]

Here's my '04. This was the result of cutting a full coil 12 years ago. It settled to about a 1.5" drop. It is jouncy on large undulations so I am going to remove or shorten the snubbers when I replace all the shocks and struts with Monroe Severe Duty units. She has 49K miles but I think the difference in appearance is worth the sacrifice in ride quality.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r176/kennycoffey/14470569_10154423035326598_228 3815244585322256_n_zpshzwalbun .jpg (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/kennycoffey/media/14470569_10154423035326598_228 3815244585322256_n_zpshzwalbun .jpg.html)

[detrailers]

Here's my '04. This was the result of cutting a full coil 12 years ago. It settled to about a 1.5" drop. It is jouncy on large undulations so I am going to remove or shorten the snubbers when I replace all the shocks and struts with Monroe Severe Duty units. She has 49K miles but I think the difference in appearance is worth the sacrifice in ride quality.

<a href="http://s144.photobucket.com/user/kennycoffey/media/14470569_10154423035326598_228 3815244585322256_n_zpshzwalbun .jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r176/kennycoffey/14470569_10154423035326598_228 3815244585322256_n_zpshzwalbun .jpg" border="0" alt="Marauder on Sanibel photo 14470569_10154423035326598_228 3815244585322256_n_zpshzwalbun .jpg"/></a>Photobucket no Bueno anymore Bad...
I like imageshack because you can download, and get the links right from your phone...

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[BAD MERC]

I see that. I tried a few different times. I'll find an alternate photo hosting site for next time. I hate tiny thumbnails but here it is.

[RubberCtyRauder]

factory front shocks do not perform as well with a cut coil, kyb used to be the go to shock for cut coils, but their quality has gone down and reports of leaking shocks less than year old are common. Monroe super duty seems to be the go to shock now. I have coil overs in front. Ridetech

[hotford]

personally i would never cut coils, but that's me, just drop for a lowered proper spring and be done with it.