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BigCars4Ever
11-29-2011, 06:33 PM
In the attached image is a diagram of a yield sign I encounter everyday. Assume North is up in the diagram. I approach the intersection from the East with the intention of turning North when I encounter a yield sign. The turn continues into a new lane. Do I need to yield to the cars already traveling North in the other lane or can proceed cautiously into the new lane? I believe I have that right to proceed as long as I go through the intersection at less than 15mph. A lot of people come to a complete stop there and wait for the North bound traffic in the other lane to break but I feel this is unnecessary. Am I right or wrong. I can't find any Florida statutes covering an intersection like this.
RacerX
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
Looks like you have your own lane as long as you're cautious and if you need to change to the other N bound lane, yield.
Unless they hit one red light and two green lights before that intersection and it's after 6:00am on a Tuesday according to article 12d, section 3a, paragraph 2.
We something similar here, but there is a sign that states "Lane changers must yield" if that helps at all.
BigCars4Ever
11-29-2011, 06:46 PM
I don't think that's what 12d 3a 2 says! I thought it was Wednesdays that fall on even dates!
BigCars4Ever
11-29-2011, 06:47 PM
We something similar here, but there is a sign that states "Lane changers must yield" if that helps at all.
It's a half mile before the next intersection so there's plenty of time to merge left once in the lane.
guspech750
11-29-2011, 06:49 PM
Id say you are good to go. And if there is a solid line seperating the Northbound traffic and the Eastbound turning/merging to go North there should be no issues. Im guessing your turn lane merges into the one Northbound lane. obviously you still have to merge into the right of way.
Marauder Rick
11-29-2011, 06:49 PM
"Yield" doesnt mean "Stop". It simply means "slow down and proceed with caution". The only reason the yield sign is there is in case someone has on their blinker and wants to switch lanes immediately after the merge. I say, once you discover that the person traveling North is going to stay in that lane, go ahead....no need to come to a stop unless you have a row of cars travelling North all planning to get into your lane at the merge.
Bluerauder
11-29-2011, 06:56 PM
In the attached image is a diagram of a yield sign I encounter everyday. Assume North is up in the diagram. I approach the intersection from the East with the intention of turning North when I encounter a yield sign. The turn continues into a new lane. Do I need to yield to the cars already traveling North in the other lane or can proceed cautiously into the new lane? I believe I have that right to proceed as long as I go through the intersection at less than 15mph. A lot of people come to a complete stop there and wait for the North bound traffic in the other lane to break but I feel this is unnecessary. Am I right or wrong. I can't find any Florida statutes covering an intersection like this.
Your diagram seems to show that the northbound lane from the Yield right turn is protected by a median strip. There should be no other way for traffic to enter that lane unless they jump the median strip. There should be no need to come to a complete stop if the lane is indeed "protected" from other northbound traffic AND marked with a triangle "YIELD" sign. A complete stop is unnecessary and you are right.
That said, the Yield sign means to yield to traffic in the northbound lanes. There shouldn't be a need to stop; but it is always wise to check for approaching traffic and proceed with caution.
One bad habit that I have started to notice more everyday is that people turning do not turn into the lane closest to them. They turn and immediately cross 1 or 2 lanes to get into their preferred lane. I can't count the number of times that I have been "at speed" in the left lane and had someone come out of a side road and immediately cross several lanes to jump in front of me. These type people fall into my classification of "Merge Challenged" drivers.
It is interesting that around here people do THE EXACT OPPOSITE at 4-way stop signs. They treat the STOP sign as a YIELD for right turns and the lanes are NOT protected. Lots of accidents to be sure. Frickin' Idiots here in Northern Virginia. Last week I had two people stop at a GREEN light in the through lanes (2 different locations) because they forgot to get into the left turn lane. Apparently, there is a new rule that you can make your own turn lane any time you want if you are a COMPLETE IDIOT.
BigCars4Ever
11-29-2011, 07:33 PM
I wonder how many licensed drivers would pass a drivers exam.
Green96
11-29-2011, 07:36 PM
I am not sure that you are allowed to post until you get some more dead pedals made are you???
In the attached image is a diagram of a yield sign I encounter everyday. Assume North is up in the diagram. I approach the intersection from the East with the intention of turning North when I encounter a yield sign. The turn continues into a new lane. Do I need to yield to the cars already traveling North in the other lane or can proceed cautiously into the new lane? I believe I have that right to proceed as long as I go through the intersection at less than 15mph. A lot of people come to a complete stop there and wait for the North bound traffic in the other lane to break but I feel this is unnecessary. Am I right or wrong. I can't find any Florida statutes covering an intersection like this.
Bluerauder
11-29-2011, 08:15 PM
I wonder how many licensed drivers would pass a drivers exam.
My informal estimate is that 50% of drivers in Virginia paid someone else to pass the test for them the first time. :rolleyes: Another 10% are unlicensed or driving on suspended licenses. Unfortunately, these people are passing on some really bad driving habits and practices to their kids.
justbob
11-29-2011, 08:16 PM
We encountered something similar to this at MV9, Difference being I only had a 1/4 mile to merge over. Who's in the left lane taunting me? A cop... So I pissed him off by not accelerating quick enough to get in front of him (like he oh so wanted..) that he sped up and I took the slot between him and a school bus. He didn't like my move, shouldered his car and swung in around me, to pull me over for cutting off a school bus... Listen Jackhole, I have three kids of my own, I'm not out cutting off school buses! Now was this really neccessary?
I say do what feels right, but you may just get an asshat like I did. For once in my life 100% of my driving was by the book as far as I was concerned.
This post is rated E for everyone.
guspech750
11-29-2011, 08:23 PM
We encountered something similar to this at MV9, Difference being I only had a 1/4 mile to merge over. Who's in the left lane taunting me? A cop... So I pissed him off by not accelerating quick enough to get in front of him (like he oh so wanted..) that he sped up and I took the slot between him and a school bus. He didn't like my move, shouldered his car and swung in around me, to pull me over for cutting off a school bus... Listen Jackhole, I have three kids of my own, I'm not out cutting off school buses! Now was this really neccessary?
I say do what feels right, but you may just get an asshat like I did. For once in my life 100% of my driving was by the book as far as I was concerned.
This post is rated E for everyone.
Hellz yezzzz. I saw it happen. JB was ripping tires :burnout:with cut outs fully opened. Blasting "Its raining Men Hallelujah Its Raining Men" from his stereo.
:eek:
MrBluGruv
11-29-2011, 08:54 PM
My informal estimate is that 50% of drivers in Virginia paid someone else to pass the test for them the first time. :rolleyes: Another 10% are unlicensed or driving on suspended licenses. Unfortunately, these people are passing on some really bad driving habits and practices to their kids.
The saddest part is it really takes almost no effort to operate a vehicle well and in a courteous manner around others with whom you share the road.
So easy that it almost in fact takes MORE effort to be as BAD as people are at it...
Like honestly, if you can remember to put on your seatbelt every time you enter the vehicle, why can't you remember to use your turn indicator every time you turn or change lanes? Same principle: If I'm gonna do that, this has to happen first.
That and people have ZERO grip on calculating time vs. distance vs. speed. To even have speeding be an effective time saver, you have to be going SO much over the speed limit or on SUCH a long drive that your risk involved in getting stopped and fined is unbelievably skewed; drive 20 minutes at 10mph over the speed limit on the freeway, end up like three miles closer to where you plan on going within an hour at the same time, which translates to not a whole lot of time saved; get pulled over doing that, however, lose any time you may have saved, no doubt losing more than you saved in fact, AND you owe a ton of money, and possibly more time lost if you decide to go to court instead of simply mailing in the fine.
I don't get how it's so hard for people, I really don't. You'd think the underlying risk and dangers involved with near-two-ton masses of metal moving down the road at up to 70mph on rolling rubber patches would warrant at least giving a LITTLE bit of a ****, but I guess not...
guspech750
11-29-2011, 09:50 PM
Like the dumb b1tch who decided to merge in front of me on the tollway with no turn signal. The the dumb b1tch merges into the next lane in front of no one with her turn signal on. WTF.
Really you dumb b1tch. That open space of air and concrete highway next to me is more important than me and deserves a turn signal while merging over as I do not deserve it. I was so hoping her car would explode.
I want all stupid people dead. Worthless oxygen wasters.
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GetMeMyStogie
11-29-2011, 09:54 PM
I frequent an intersection like this one, and it drives me nuts when people stop there! They stop, with a clear lane in front if them, watching traffic approach in the adjacent lane. Sometimes, the driver notices and starts going, but usually not.
The yiekd sign, afaic, is there to remind drivers to yield to pedestrians.
At yield signs in general, you either yield or you don't yield. If you yield, you probably have to stop. If you're not yielding (because there's nobody to yiekd to) slowing down isn't necessary. Much like flashing yellow lights, one need merely proceed with caution.
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