Abs and vaps

[Coupe]

After 2.5 years my ABS-Module from my Marauder 2003 the second time defective.
The first time i had several DTC´s and the TC, the yellow ABS and the TC switch was glowing.
After replace of the module, everything was okay. But since two days the yellow ABS indicator and the TC indicator illuminate again, but w/o the traction control switch. I connect the car with an IDS and get the DTC C1300 (ABS Pump Motor Circuit Failure) and C1897 (VAPS circuit failure).
Can that be true, that i need after 30 Month the second module? It is dry sand no corrosion at the pins. In different Forums, i read that the VAPS get power from ABS Module, about the VSS.
Can someone help me? I don´t want to change the module again, it is very expensive!!!!!

[Spectragod]

An alternative is a company called Module masters here in the states, $200 and shipping, and a 5 year warranty.

I have had luck with the connectors having oxidation on them before, a little de-ox and they were working again. I am not 100% sure if the VAPS gets it's power from the ABS, I would need to research that, but I would say no, I believe it is on a separate circuit.

I would start with checking all connections, verifying power and ground to the circuits with a DVOM, then proceed from there, if both quit at the same time, I would lean towards a chafed wire or a bad power/ground circuit.

[Coupe]

company callused module sounds good. can you gimme a homepage or address, please?

[martyo]

company callused module sounds good. can you gimme a homepage or address, please?

I believe this is the place Darrin is talking about:

http://www.modulemaster.com/en/index.php

[Coupe]

unfortunately there isn´t Mercury in the list!

[burt ragio]

An alternative is a company called Module masters here in the states, $200 and shipping, and a 5 year warranty.

I have had luck with the connectors having oxidation on them before, a little de-ox and they were working again. I am not 100% sure if the VAPS gets it's power from the ABS, I would need to research that, but I would say no, I believe it is on a separate circuit.

I would start with checking all connections, verifying power and ground to the circuits with a DVOM, then proceed from there, if both quit at the same time, I would lean towards a chafed wire or a bad power/ground circuit.

What is a DVOM ?

[MM2004]

What is a DVOM ?

Brought to you from Wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimeter

;)

Mike.

[Spectragod]

unfortunately there isn´t Mercury in the list!

They are not on the list, you need to call or email them, they WILL rebuild your module. I had them do a couple for me that "weren't on the list".

Good luck. I would seriously look for voltage or ground faults before changing parts.

[RF Overlord]

VAPS is combined in one module with the RAS. That module gets its power from fuse 114 in the BJB and fuse 16 in the cabin fuse box. Nothing to do with the ABS.

The ABS module gets power from fuses 118 and 106 in the BJB and also from fuses 14 and 11 in the cabin. It gets is signals from the 4 wheel speed sensors, not from the VSS.

[RF Overlord]

Without access to a WDS, you can try the following:

Disconnect the ABS control module connector and check for >10 volts between pin 13 and ground (earth) and between pin 14 and ground. You can also check for proper grounds resistance from pin 12 to ground and from pin 15 to ground. (should be <5 ohms). Note: these readings are all from the harness side, not on the module itself.

[Coupe]

They are not on the list, you need to call or email them, they WILL rebuild your module. I had them do a couple for me that "weren't on the list".

Good luck. I would seriously look for voltage or ground faults before changing parts.

thank you, i wrote them a mail!!
Without access to a WDS, you can try the following:

Disconnect the ABS control module connector and check for >10 volts between pin 13 and ground (earth) and between pin 14 and ground. You can also check for proper grounds resistance from pin 12 to ground and from pin 15 to ground. (should be <5 ohms). Note: these readings are all from the harness side, not on the module itself.
what means RAS? i have an IDS/VCM scanner, the told me this faults:
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[RF Overlord]

RAS = Rear Air Suspension

Some of the codes in your screen shot make no sense and I can't find any info about them. One that DOES make sense is B1318 - RASM. That code mean Low Battery Voltage at the module. Combined with the versagt (failure) of the VAPS (which is the same module) points to some other electrical failure, possibly with the wiring. The FSM (factory service manual) also states that this code can be set by a battery in a low state of charge.

Check for >10V at pins 1, 15, and 16 (referenced to ground). Also check for <5 ohms of resistance between pin 6 (of the harness side) and ground with the harness disconnected.

C1897 is Steering VAPS Circuit Loop Failure. If you get everything else cleared and this remains, I can scan the test procedure and post it.

[Coupe]

i´ll replace next week the HCU, because in the failure tree diagram shows the system, that C1300 is s defective ABS module or HCU module, may is the electric pump defective. but also i check every connectors and wirings. i´ll update you with the solution. thank you so much for help!

[RF Overlord]

Du bist herzlich willkommen, mein Freund.

[Coupe]

Du sprichst deutsch?
Okay, komme gerne drauf zurück!

[Coupe]

well, i´d checked all pins, which i have to check via Ford Service Manual and i connected the ABS pump directly with the batterie. everything was okay. in the next days, i change the HCU, but i know right now, it´s not the HCU.
I guess, i have the module to renew!!! :-(
BTW: no answer from modulemaster.com till today

[1stMerc]

Coupe,
Did you take yours to dealer.
Took mine in today for the ABS and traction lights coming on intermittentently. Service manager told me there is a TSB out to check module connector for water intrusion.
Didn't have them do it since would have had to remove S/C components.

[Coupe]

Ford in Germany can´t repair my car. And when i ask a local Module repair shop, they can´t test it, in Audi or BMW the Module looks like that from Marauder. I guess, they are afraid or silly.
You talk about the TSB 04-26-7
I perform this TSB at my car two and a half year ago

[Coupe]

after clearing all codes, the IDS shows me, VAPS failure and that the module may optional. but i have the module with the P/N 3W7F-3B494-BF, it´s for Air Suspension AND VAPS! I checked all wires and all connectors, everything fine, also the driving is okay for my opinion: in stand, the steering feel light, during drive normal and on ice or snow, when i drift and must do a hard correction, it´s very duty to steer. i guess it´s normal.
but why the failure?